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A Good substitute for Kelens Dagger of Escape in escaping

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darkness79


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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:58 pm

kyel_dai92 wrote:
i prefer lothars than dagger seems useless nowadays except on int type hero hehehehe. and i lothars on nvermore and traxex since they are agi heroes it gives like 30+ damge correct me i am wrong


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21 agi

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mobilitycarecentre


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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:47 am

lols.. depend on hero you use...

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Raito_plus


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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:03 am

The best substitute is raijin ulti,can escape team also,lol

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PRO-feederZ


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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:43 am

but the new blink dagger is kinda balanced... last time when u wana kill a guy, suddenly he is gone... btw, i NEVER use blink dagger in my life....
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Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:06 pm

Lothars is viable for escaping. I've seen a rise of Lothars in the games we play here.

If you wanna show off then buy dagger, juke like it's nobody's business & then blink - your opponents will hate you lol.
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moogle-taxi


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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 11:57 am

ive allways used lothars instead of blink...
it gives speed, and you can stick around to finsih people off instead of just an excape.
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[piG]Jenan


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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 12:04 pm

dagger still best for GB and escape!
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moogle-taxi


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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 12:33 pm

[piG]Jenan wrote:
dagger still best for GB and escape!
well said :P

anybody think of using manta for excape? i only used it once to excape it creates mass confusion for a few seconds.
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war1ock


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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:06 pm

town portal and lothars. problem is if u get stunned no more tp. if enemy has gem no more lothars
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davidhe1991


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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:33 pm

lothars is fine. the damage and agi gain for agi heroes is decent, and actually for heroes like drow ranger and sniepr, who would wanna get her a blinky? lol
lothars ftw
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:38 pm

Situational. Lothars is generally for heroes who can benifit from most of the bonuses and also can use the invisibility well. One such hero would be, Shadow Fiend, who has been using it all this while. As for heroes who have previously been using blink, I think they should stick to blink as most of the time it is used to start combos.
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:43 pm

Raito_plus wrote:
The best substitute is raijin ulti,can escape team also,lol


not quite, you will take the enemy with you so you're not really escaping
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:48 pm

LOTHARS!
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no0bifier


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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:04 pm

Best substitute is to carry either a tp scroll, juke for 3secs then blink (which really isnt hard) or tangoes!

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Lothars is not a suitable items for many heros that used to get blink quite readily, mainly cause of the increase in cost and the lowering in the time to get to a point. Zeus-lich-rhasta used to be able to buy dagger to aid with their amazing killing ability and still can, also it can still help them escape if they are good enough.

Fog is a dagger user's best friend.

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KimJohannaST


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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:17 am

Lothars...IF things are going my way.but usually i can't (seem better not to)wait that long and get dagger most of the time.
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