the scepter

the scepter

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:18 am

i know scepter isnt for all heroes but i think that these heroes need one 1. Dath Prophet
2. Harbringer
3. Jakiro

Do you agree or not and have any suggestions for other heroes

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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:23 am

death prophet dont need scepter, cause nothing will happen,

on harbring, you know that harbring need huge mana pool and high int, so scepter is the answer on harbring, even if scepter doesn't increase the sanitary eclipes damage. but now, i buy, guinsoo,scepter,malovence,shivas guard,boots of travel and cuirass.

on jakiro, i dont know if scepter increase the macropyre's damage, because i'm not a big fan of jakiro,
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:24 am

@red apple

1. Death Prohet - i think she dont need Scepter ... cuz its a waste ... shes better with the new Guinsoo and Shiva ..

2. Harbringer - Orchid IMO is the best item to use ... doesnt need scepter

3. Jakiro - better with Shiva and Euls ...


dude .... why would u put Scepter to heroes that doesnt really need it .... IMO its better to use the Money to buy items they REALLY NEEd ...
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:25 am

If it's part of your viable build then sure why not.

Harbinger definitely.

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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:27 am

@dark star- yah malovence are good on bringer, but it only gives 30 int and low mana pool, but scepter gives 30 int and huge mana pool. read my item build only 1 scepter is enough, because of malovence and shiva, but in the past i always spam scepter on harbringer.
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:32 am

@mirana0406

hmmm ... in my build , Male and Shiva

shiva will give enough Mana with the bonus int ... the thing in malevolence is .. the Active Skill .. because its Amplify damage and Silence .... and if u combined it with Harbringer's Orb Skill ... it gives massive damage ... so i dont need the int from malevolence .. i need the ASPD and the Skill on malevolence ...
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:38 am

ok fine, all int item at attackspeed are great on harbringer, nuff said
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:51 am

death prophet-not really
harby-possible but not essential
jakiro-not really
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:53 am

@mirana0406

haha .. ok
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:53 am

I understood that the purpose of this thread was to actually implement a buff for those heroes' ultimate that is given by the aghanim. But that's just me
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:48 am

As for the benefits, yes. Its ok. But because it doesn't really benefit the heroes that you've listed, no. Not really.

Their ultimates will not be increased becuase Aghanims ability to increase ulitmates are only for Lina, Zeus, Furion, Pugna, Rylai, Rhasta, Queen of Pain, Venomancer, Lich, Leshrac, Lion, Necrolyte, Keeper of the Light, Luna, Orge Magi and Lucifer

Its better to put Shiva's Guard and Guinsoo Scythe of Vyse to Krobelus because she is soft and to add disables and amplified damage.

Better to put Kelens (not as useful as now), Guinsoo, and orchid on Jakiro because we all know that Jakiro's skills are AoE. Guinsoo can help so that the hero will be targeted exactly. Other support items are kelens for proper timing and orchid for the soul burn.

Harbringer need mana. So, Guinsoo can help but Aghanims too because of its +30 int. Just buy more Mystic staff (hahaha..xD). Guinsoo helps better since it gives +35 int, 200% mana regen, and hex ability.
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:18 am

Well if Aghanim upgrades were available for Death Prophet and Jakiro's ultimates I would consider buying it for them. On Harbinger I think not, it should not be made available for it, because it seems ridiculous if it does. It actually gives more damage to the ultimate even though it doesn't say so. To upgrade the ultimate and then give even more damage to the ultimate is like .
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