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no0bifier


Monster Kill Posts: 236 Joined: 11 Jun 2007 7389 gold

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:32 am

folechno wrote:
@new3 did SK get a new ms? there wasn't anything in the changelog about that and I haven't played either of them (sand king or skeleton king)


SK=soulkeeper=terrorblade


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also lothars isnt needed, you have hook (with imba cooldown might i add) that dominates and if you get a dagger instead which is cheaper you can use the shield thing then blink, also when running in forest ministun is usually enough.

vlads first means you have hp regen from lifesteal and manaregen, and bfury doesnt REALLY help that much in killing as you are more of a single one out with trap then kill kinda hero.
Vlads-SnY-Radiance with Treads i find is more effective then a heart if its em and you have heaps of money. You are pretty fast, a great chaser and can escape well.

Lothars is just a waste of money, too expensive for a small benefit.

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pipfarhan


First Blood Posts: 2 Joined: 20 Oct 2007 132 gold

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:54 pm

excuse me, do i need to use frozen throne patch 1.22 for playing this map?

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Brewser


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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:12 pm

oooo new animations. slight but gd Smile
lycan inprovement nice
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folechno


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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:55 pm

pipfarhan wrote:
excuse me, do i need to use frozen throne patch 1.22 for playing this map?


No you do not, but you will if you want to play it on Battlenet

SAKMAN wrote:
We do not have a Tauren Chieftain . Raigor is a Tauren . It would be fine to have a Tauren Chieftain hero and Raigor in the same game. The same could be said about Dark Seer and Gondar who are both Draenei, Axe and Yurnero who are both Chaos Blademasters, Potm and Luna who are both Night Elves with similarly themed skills, Tinker and Techies who are both Goblins, Soul Keeper and Magina who are both Illidan (THEY ARE THE SAME PERSON), Naga and Medusa who are both female Naga, Panda and Storm who are both Pandaren, Rhasta and Vol' Jin etc etc you get the picture.


They have the same models, but completely different flavor and skills. If we had a Tauren Chieftan, you would have to make him different from Raigor but then he wouldn't be Tauren Chieften from the flavor perspective.

Macedaman wrote:
hmm this map seems quite gud i guess i want to try out RattleTrap but ill prob be noob lol ill play on ai for a couple games lol how noob is that =D

Good luck with that. I doubt there will be a good AI map out for at least 2 weeks, maybe more.

oblivion59 wrote:
What improvements did Drow's Marksmanship have?

indistinguishable wrote:
anyone knows what happened to drow and lycan?

Drow have marksmenship buffed so that it now gives 2 more agi at each level (12/24/36)

Lycan was completely worked over, too much for me to want to list. Check him out under the hero section. It has been updated.

rellikkiller wrote:
battle fury= for farming and mana support for 1st and 3rd skill

boots of travel= for farming and ganking, with 1st skill,

lotars= for ganking and survival

vladimer=

sange and yasha=

monkey=

Monkey, most imba item ever.

Like newbifier said, Lothars is a waste of money since you have 2 skills which can help you escape and you have your hook to initiate a fight.

If you have both SnY and BoT, your movespeed will be so high but Clockwerk doesn't need to chase people since Battery Assault will repeatedly stun them, he can hook himself to them, and he has a higher base ms anyway (310). I would only choose one or the other, and I personally would choose treads since Clockwerk can deal more damage while the enemy is trapped in the cogs or try to run away while Battery Assault is on.

Battlefury is only good for the hp and mana regen since Clockwerk doesn't need the splash damage since he takes heroes on 1v1. Upgrade the Persaverance to a Linkens, making it harder for the enemy hero to stop your combo.

Radiance would be better than Battlefury because it gives more damage, gives evasion, and more chasing power when combined with Battery Assault.

Also, the vlads will take care of hp regen (through lifesteal) and mana regen so you don't really need battlefury at all.
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infiniti23


First Blood Posts: 9 Joined: 09 Aug 2007 285 gold

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:27 am

nice buffs on lycan.. global howl and a 40 sec cd ult.. makes the nerfing of the bash a balance to it..

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Inwok3r


First Blood Posts: 5 Joined: 28 Jun 2008 135 gold

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:06 pm

[piG]Jenan wrote:
the new hero sucks at late game.
>.<
or maybe i just dunno how to use it.
Goblin Clockwerk (baby toy)... He really do suck late game, if not godlike feeded =P
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maryyan


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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:25 pm

The new lycan owns.But i don't really like the new hero.

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Counter_Force[X]


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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:41 pm

rumors galore TB's ms will be re-buffed to 315

fans rejoice
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folechno


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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:28 pm

as a good tb player, did you think that the nerf to his ms was necessary? if yes, did IF nerf it too far? and where are those rumors coming from? (I had made a comment in the rickcoll thread but I just made that up)
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:07 pm

the nerf was a huge kill

he is already no longer popular in competitive play, due to contribution and survival issues
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pipfarhan


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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:32 pm

ooo i c.. thx! =D its kindda cool with that new hero. =))

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XcN-RiCe


First Blood Posts: 33 Joined: 01 Aug 2008 757 gold

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:25 am

Yet more bugs in this version. Guilty Depressed Mad Confused Sad Disappointed
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folechno


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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:01 pm

I have seen/heard about only 2 bugs. And new versions will always have bugs, that is what versions b and c and d (etc.) are for.
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AsS-Ki.cK


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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:47 pm

Im still so mad about TB ms nerf :P
I know its been a while since this version came out but i havent complained about it in here yet ))
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insane_grimjow


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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:48 pm

The new Lycan got imba(but the old one was trash,so now its worth to play with Lycan).And also the Clock guy..I like him ^_^.I havent found any bugs yet,and if i do i doubt they will be serious
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