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Greater Bash


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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 8:13 pm

@ moogle

finally somebody who also thinks Broodmother shall win
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 8:26 pm

right so, just becasue of the 17%chance to hit maby a small amount nuke...

and guys please dont mention ite builds, becasue there is a counter to every build so lets leave builds out of this.


broods lifesteal >counterhelix+beserkerscall.

brood wins. no spiderings.

axes culling blade take sno matter becasue brood will stay above 600hp 100% of the time.
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:34 am

obviously the earth will implode on itself.
what other reasons could their be?
other then Incapacitating Bite + Insatiable Hunger + Spin Web = pure win.
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:33 pm

It depends on the situation.

If there is many creeps.

Broodmama will be killed.

But if there are no creeps around, the "Mama" will win.
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zakukimsha


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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:52 pm

brood owns!
item build:
2x cranium basher
butterfly
MKB
Buriza
treads
...u will have good evasion and atk speed...bash for countering culling in certain times..mkb pure damage... and crit for bigger lifesteal...
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:03 pm

axe can't dominate lane if brood has webs.. and she must have webs
mid game brood (ult lvl2=60%lifesteal) can easily take axe... unless he has 3blademails or smtn like it which is hard to get in mid game
late game axe can't do much with helix vs 80%lifesteal even with 2blademails
broodling are retarded vs axe
and in my opinion vlads sux on brood anyway...broodling are here to deal dmg and to die, not to regain hp and brood already has more than decent lifesteal.
vlads could be useful only for mana regain and that is useful only if u use broodling and in this case ur not, and basilus on his own takes care of that
brood should get treads and HoT if 1v1
someone said axe should get purge blade....and that's his only chance and that's 3k gold he could spend on messer.
if he somehow outskills brood early game.... otherwise brood > axe ! ! !
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:46 pm

brainless13 wrote:
axe can't dominate lane if brood has webs.. and she must have webs
mid game brood (ult lvl2=60%lifesteal) can easily take axe... unless he has 3blademails or smtn like it which is hard to get in mid game
late game axe can't do much with helix vs 80%lifesteal even with 2blademails
broodling are retarded vs axe
and in my opinion vlads sux on brood anyway...broodling are here to deal dmg and to die, not to regain hp and brood already has more than decent lifesteal.
vlads could be useful only for mana regain and that is useful only if u use broodling and in this case ur not, and basilus on his own takes care of that
brood should get treads and HoT if 1v1
someone said axe should get purge blade....and that's his only chance and that's 3k gold he could spend on messer.
if he somehow outskills brood early game.... otherwise brood > axe ! ! !


vlads is gotten because brood has a orb effect and it also increase your damage AND your babies.
your babies are for pushing and farming not damage.
your babies should not die because giving free gold and exp is just stupid.
your babies could be used as a blocking mechanism.
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folechno


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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:14 pm

tend wrote:
brainless13 wrote:
axe can't dominate lane if brood has webs.. and she must have webs
mid game brood (ult lvl2=60%lifesteal) can easily take axe... unless he has 3blademails or smtn like it which is hard to get in mid game
late game axe can't do much with helix vs 80%lifesteal even with 2blademails
broodling are retarded vs axe
and in my opinion vlads sux on brood anyway...broodling are here to deal dmg and to die, not to regain hp and brood already has more than decent lifesteal.
vlads could be useful only for mana regain and that is useful only if u use broodling and in this case ur not, and basilus on his own takes care of that
brood should get treads and HoT if 1v1
someone said axe should get purge blade....and that's his only chance and that's 3k gold he could spend on messer.
if he somehow outskills brood early game.... otherwise brood > axe ! ! !


vlads is gotten because brood has a orb effect and it also increase your damage AND your babies.
your babies are for pushing and farming not damage.
your babies should not die because giving free gold and exp is just stupid.
your babies could be used as a blocking mechanism.

you should never have any babies when fighting axe, never

you could completely skip that skill, max bite, get 1-2 lvls web, get hunger and then stats

or you could use spawn spiderilngs as a nuke and keep spamming it at axe, and if it does in fact spawn spiderlings, then axe is dead so it won't matter
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FranZ123


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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:18 pm

well for me in early game axe owns, while in late games definitely mommy will owns!!
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migrees


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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:29 pm

@ several posts above

Just to clarify....mkb ministun overrides cranium basher bash, and the percent chance on mkb is much higher, so i really dont see why you would have any bashers, much less 2...

@topic
i'm not going to include specific item builds, but axe is going to have a hell of a easy time farming with the ability to send brood to the fountain almost every time he sees her with helix and hunger. therefore, without mentioning specific items, axe will get his items much faster and therefore have a much better chance of winning.

lol i like how you matched up 2 of the most imba characters together. this just shows how imba axe is!

can somebody teach me how to quote? the quote button isn't working....
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 4:27 pm

migrees wrote:
can somebody teach me how to quote? the quote button isn't working....

well,if the quote button isn't working then you can use this format

[*quote="name goes here"]text you want quoted goes here[/quote]

but without the *
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FranZ123


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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 4:36 pm

hmm...think of this, what if the game between ax and mama...is a free lane game...then its easy for mama to switch lane, and besides she has advantage in pushing against axe...(its the tactical way to win without killing, but maybe mama will have a hard time facing axe in the same lane)
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serpentson


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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 4:39 pm

Generic Hero Match up answer:

Both can win. Depends on player.
Generic? yes. Applicable? also a yes.

Axe: Much. Much. Much better early game. Also has very good creep killing ability, means his creeps can push towers fast. Can bring brood out of web if she tries to sit there invis and get her experience.

Brood: Ill late game hero. Bite is just ill, and no mater how many blademails axe will (realisticly) stack, it won't overcome her 80% lifesteal. If she gets vlads on top for even more dmg + lifesteal, then he can't stand up to her attacks once she levels.

Sidenote: Brood doesn't have to spawn spiderlings, and would be stupid to when playing against an axe. Any claims to the contrary will be immediatly disregarded.

Edit:
Sidenote2: Brood can also jungle after a couple levels. Let axe push, as long as he doesn't win she will bet built through neutrals. Key here for Axe is that he has to push hard and fast, but again, depending on players (!!!!!) he can do it and end the game before brood is ready to come out.

Conclusion: Depends on the players.
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 4:39 pm

FranZ123 wrote:
hmm...think of this, what if the game between ax and mama...is a free lane game...then its easy for mama to switch lane, and besides she has advantage in pushing against axe...(its the tactical way to win without killing, but maybe mama will have a hard time facing axe in the same lane)

If you are playing 1v1, would you play om or all lanes? The only hero who could benefit from having all the lanes is Ezalor, he could push all 3 at the same time really easily
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FranZ123


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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 4:40 pm

yeah...its all in the players hand...
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