Clan ZOMP! "The Magic Hat Trick"

Clan ZOMP! "The Magic Hat Trick"

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:25 pm

So, your probably wondering what is "The Magic Hat Trick"? This is an idea I can up with after watching some youtube videos. It consists on several heroes using their skills to move an enemy hero in rapid succession. (Heroes: Vengeful Spirit, Tiny, Storm, and Pudge)
Why would you want to use "the Magic Hat Trick"?
This complex operation will be used for several reasons.
1. The unlucky enemy hero will be completely disoriented and eventually killed, either through the course of the "trick" or soon there after by towers and the entire friendly team which meets back at base to finish the job.
2. To completely remove an enemy hero, preferably the carry or tank, from the field of battle. With the enemy team missing a key hero a counter push can be initiated to win the game.
3. To show the dominance of CLAN ZOMP to the enemy team and eventually to the whole world when we post the coolest DOTA youtube video of all time.
How will this “Magic Hat Trick” work?
The Current plan has 5 steps, each requiring fast fingers and even faster eyes.
Step 1. Set up. ZOMP prepares for the trick but positioning themselves during a heavy push by the enemy up one of the lanes, preferably mid. Positions: In the woods south of mid lane.

Step 2. Initiating. Vengeful Spirit will swap the enemy next to Tiny; she then uses Lothars Edge to escape the group of enemies or stun and run. Tiny will immediately stun the enemy to position him for toss.
Step 3. Lightning Grapple. Tiny tosses enemy to Storm. Storm immediately lightning grapples south towards Sent base. This is one of the most difficult steps. Storm must position the grapple so that the enemy is to the lower right-hand side of him so when they finish the grapple the enemy is exposed to Pudge’s hook.
Step 4. Pudge Hook. Timing is everything with this step. Pudge must hook the enemy before he has a chance to realize what just happened. Pudge dismembers the enemy once he is in the Sentinel Base and must keep him there as long as possible.
Step 5. Regroup. Allied forces must make haste back to base to ensure the enemy is killed quickly then initiate counter push.

The trick has several options and is still a work in progress. Suggestions on how to improve it are more then welcome.

Several of us gave the plan a trial run last night. It is complex and difficult to master. Practice is a must but the end result will be a masterful thing of beauty. Clan ZOMP will be admired by all and Dota Strategy will have the fame it truly deserves.

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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:32 pm

That sounds like a very complex plan and all that for just one hero.
3 ults just for one hero, he should feel very special. lol
Will be an excellent move if executed properly.
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:33 pm

I WANNA BE THE PANDA!!!
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:34 pm

Awesome!
Please post a video of it if you are able to do it!
The enemy hero will be like; "WTFWTFWTF" xD
Really like it
But can it be effency in a normal game?
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:44 pm

I think its more for fun and mental dominates over the enemy. If it worked In a real game It would be awesome. It was tough enough to do with a rigged setup. Im sure If we try hard enough anything can get done.
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:29 pm

I agree. The enemy will be like... woah! Hacks! Ummm wait that isnt hackable.. umm 1337?
hahahaha
And we will be like.. oh thats just one of our plays. Wait till late game.. muuhhhahahaha
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:31 pm

I already uploaded a replay and made a thread but I will stop that one since you have a better description

replay here
http://rapidshare.com/files/135444216/video_try_1.w3g.html

other thread
http://www.dotastrategy.com/forum/ftopic14330.html
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:41 pm

Neat idea.
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:55 pm

Here is an idea.. in addition to practice we could place a ward at each of the target locations. That way Tiny and venge know the correct spot to stand to maximize range and reduce error.. Also a ward placed so that Storm will know where to grapple so that Pudge is ready with his hook. With wards in place the process will make it all about timing and with some practice it may look like a continuous chain.. hahah almost like one ult.
@mh.FTW It is 3 ults but they are some of the quickest CD in the game.
Storm 35 secs Pudge 30 secs Venge 45 secs... that means if we got really good we could set this up every minute! hahaha
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:07 pm

I like the ward idea....it will increase accuracy 10-fold
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:23 pm

Not gonna lie, this will be one of the best DotA plays ever.. imagine how intense it would be? getting venge away would be hardest, but as long as they're suprised form teh fog swap, it should work fine. Maybe after storm, you ahve a magnus with blink dagger to ult to a precise location, then blink out of the way to make pudge's hook easier. Now, this would get rid of a very very useful ult, but it would make it alot easier to get the hook right.

Another idea is to have chen use the aut-tp on venge just before she swaps. This would allow her to get back safely, and then lay down a stun after dismember.
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:48 pm

@serpentson
Good ideas.. What I am struggling with here is which 5th hero to have on the team in general. If this is going to be more than just a one time trick for a video then the team needs a 5th. Your ideas have merit.
As far as Venge's escape I think she will need Lothars. Originally we were thinking that the 5th would be clockwork. He would just chill with Pudge to prevent the escape of the enemy hero. I was also thinking that Mariana would make a strong addition with her arrow. Timed very well she could either initiate the attack stunning the hero for the full duration of the "trick" or stand by to stun while he is in Pudge's grips; a 5 second stun would be easy to land if he is being dismembered ensuring a kill. Additionally she could ult to allow Venge to escape…. Thoughts?
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:15 pm

5th hero: Bloodseeker

Ruptures the target hero from the VERY START so they get massivley damaged by Rupture throughout the entire "Hat Trick".

that would be able to take down even tanks
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:33 pm

@dohyun99 hahaha that would be funny, only problem... I would be afraid that he would die before the full chain, which would totally suck.. hahah

EDIT:
BTW, I am going to be on BNET WEST tonight in about 2 hours if anyone wants to meet up for a game and maybe another practice session for "the magic hat trick"
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:07 pm

lol, im up for trying it getatmedog.

long as im vengefull =] i get the easy part =]


but i dont thin this would work. a simple stun form an enemy player would make itall fall to peices..

i think the simple 'gank' would do fine. all pile a single player. but this could work :P and would be much more funny :P


do you have a lnk of this in action btw?

edit:cant do it tonight maby tormorw if anybody is interested =]
replay pls?
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