Question about Alchemists ultimate.

Question about Alchemists ultimate.

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:04 pm

So when i look at alchemists ult, it gives the ms bonus, the regen, hp, etc. but im wondering why it reduces his attack cooldown. Why not just an AS buff? Im honestly kind of stumped as to why Icefrog would use cooldown changes over AS, so if anyone has ideas, by all means plz post them.

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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:21 pm

Well i dunno if it it's better to reduce the base attack speed or increase the AS...but i kinda think that reducing the base AS is better...
I gues that it made it like that to add something new to dota...i find most heroes kinda boring because they are not inovative and there spells can't be used to do more that what it says...it ruines the imagination of the players...why do you think that most beginners use troll or razor?

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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:30 pm

cause that would be imba, because if you mass AS items, with the buff, that would serious AS bonus, this way, you can get damage items, but other than that i have no clue, maybe cause it sounds cooler
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:39 pm

base AS increase.

razzle's base atatck speed is quite fast as it is. he is a onster when he uses ulti.
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:41 pm

i think it is better, cause ull attack very fast without as items, but not rly sure...
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:44 pm

actually a buff in AS would override any item stats. or stats gained naturally per level.

if it is a buff, it can be removed. making alchemist voulnerbale. if his AS buff is rmeoved he is just like eveyr other heor exept with regen.

basicly a centaur but lower speed.
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:01 pm

you could purge the aspd buff it would give, but by changing the base aspd, it cannot be purged, also it's a different model (but that's not really a good enough reason)

that's just how IceFrog chose to make the hero
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:05 pm

I gave it some thinking...
I am pretty shure now that lowering the base attack speed is better than addining an AS buff...
As an example
You have 2.0 AS,you activate ulti rank 3 (with lowers the BAT [bacic attack speed] with 0.2)and you get 1.8 and you ahve 100% AS increase,you have an attack interval of 0.6
You have 2.0 AS,youre ulti gives 50% AS increase,you activate it and you have 100% AS increase of youre own (so now it's 150%) and now the attack interval is around 1...

Damn i made an load of mistakes...plz someone confirm if it's better to have an lower BAT or an increased AS (when you activate an spell)

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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:39 am

Its because its another unit. Changing just 1 value obviously will be much more simple than making another buff. rite?
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 2:01 pm

the thing with the ulti is that it changes u. Like lycan. From a little weak man. Into a hungry wolf. The attack animation will be changed. It will then be changed too a faster 1 to encuridge u to use it. LOL. XD.
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 2:03 pm



huh? it depends on the amound increase or lowered obviously.

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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 2:10 pm

if you want it to be passive.
the hell with him gonna be?
a super dpser?
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 2:30 pm

LOL the pig is right. Do u even use alch? Plus hes not really a dps. Hes more a tank. His ulti mainly buffs him. Also his gold thing is to let u farm for yummy treats. Just make sure u get them. Otherwise hes imba. So ya tank not dps. Only made into dps with imba item. XD.
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 2:40 pm

hmm i think just to balance it?whats the reason idk too.....
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 2:46 pm

imagine a str type
troll w/o bash!
a passive rampage!
/swt
imba ryt?
just get a basher
then troll goes Bye bye!
lolz!
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