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[piG]Jenan


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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:02 pm

ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzz...
ok2...
your mighty!
bow! bow! bow!
lolz...
hahaha...
^^,


@ topic
troll with lothars, treads,vlads can own baratrum.
since lothars gives atk spd + WW. which could be the benefit of troll.

cause if you analize it correctly.
in a 1 lane match.

troll gets last hit and denies the most.
which would make bara in gap.

and if bara decides to buy wards for the WW.
he just wasted 200 gold.
cause even if with out wind walk.
if rampage gets activated. bash will prevail.

baratrum gets damage on his MS.
while troll relies on his atk spd.
so i vote for troll.
since he could bash better.
which if troll bash for once.
the game surely would end quick.
^^,
done with my words.
feel free to comment on my suggestions.
just no dumb comment ok?
thx!

now is time for my sleep.
~~~ZZZZzzz~~~~
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xesem69@yahoo.com


First Blood Posts: 3 Joined: 11 Dec 2007 420 gold

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:45 pm

sfsy1 wrote:
ahmady9 wrote:
@ vins
No premabashers can take ursa down...
I guess Tiny can do the trick... u can also try rexxar with vlads, S&Y, and basher


Permabasher can take ursa down very very easily, if ursa doesnt have blademails. No doubt bout this.


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xesem69@yahoo.com


First Blood Posts: 3 Joined: 11 Dec 2007 420 gold

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:54 pm

[piG]Jenan wrote:
ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzz...
ok2...
your mighty!
bow! bow! bow!
lolz...
hahaha...
^^,


@ topic
troll with lothars, treads,vlads can own baratrum.
since lothars gives atk spd + WW. which could be the benefit of troll.

cause if you analize it correctly.
in a 1 lane match.

troll gets last hit and denies the most.
which would make bara in gap.

and if bara decides to buy wards for the WW.
he just wasted 200 gold.
cause even if with out wind walk.
if rampage gets activated. bash will prevail.

baratrum gets damage on his MS.
while troll relies on his atk spd.
so i vote for troll.
since he could bash better.
which if troll bash for once.
the game surely would end quick.
^^,
done with my words.
feel free to comment on my suggestions.
just no dumb comment ok?
thx!

now is time for my sleep.
~~~ZZZZzzz~~~~
wel wat if trol was stun by charge and gets perma bash? Incase u dnt knw charge can c lothar. And sb got bash also.so it realy dpends w bash luck. I had trol and had 2 bashers and i was having a bad tym with bashes. So i end up dead.

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Edwaard


Killing Spree Posts: 79 Joined: 06 May 2007 2307 gold

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:06 pm

[piG]Jenan wrote:
ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzz...
ok2...
your mighty!
bow! bow! bow!
lolz...
hahaha...
^^,


@ topic
troll with lothars, treads,vlads can own baratrum.
since lothars gives atk spd + WW. which could be the benefit of troll.

cause if you analize it correctly.
in a 1 lane match.

troll gets last hit and denies the most.
which would make bara in gap.

and if bara decides to buy wards for the WW.
he just wasted 200 gold.
cause even if with out wind walk.
if rampage gets activated. bash will prevail.

baratrum gets damage on his MS.
while troll relies on his atk spd.
so i vote for troll.
since he could bash better.
which if troll bash for once.
the game surely would end quick.
^^,
done with my words.
feel free to comment on my suggestions.
just no dumb comment ok?
thx!

now is time for my sleep.
~~~ZZZZzzz~~~~
I understand what you're saying and you might very well be right. Anyhow, you have to consider a few more things.

First of all SB has higher dmg, more hp, a non percentage-based stun in Charge and a great initator in Netherstrike. SB is also able to get a kill earlier than Troll as he's fairly strong as soon as the ulti is obtained, while Troll needs a bit higher level before he reaches his real height. Against Troll with your build, I would give my SB MoM, Treads, a few Bracers, some regen and wards. This could perhaps be enough to get a kill as your build doesn't provide that much hp and leaves Troll quite fragile.

I think the game would be even and luck-based, but I also think SB could have a slight advantage during early-mid because of his ulti and charge that buy him some time to score a few free hits.

I might be totally wrong here, as I have never played this exact matchup against someone equally skilled, but I really don't think Troll would win as easily as you're saying.

And please, skip all these "lolz...", "bow! bow! bow!", "hahaha...", "pronobz" etc. Really, it only makes you look ridiculous. This is a forum which, if you haven't noticed, is made for discussions and arguments and not childish flaming and bullshit like that. Argue against people if you don't agree, but don't run around thinking you're right about everything and talk bad about people that don't share your opinions.
It's all about good manners, you should try to get some too.
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ted


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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:22 pm

yeah.. kinda agree with edwaard.. u should watch ur attitude piG... ppl have their own opinion.. even though u dont agree, a least show them some respect..
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yming


Killing Spree Posts: 69 Joined: 26 Jul 2008 1830 gold

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:24 pm

I just wan to make sure...yurnero's blade fury can be stopped by non-targeting stuns spells u know...example:lion

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[piG]Jenan


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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:38 pm

Edwaard wrote:
I understand what you're saying and you might very well be right. Anyhow, you have to consider a few more things.

First of all SB has higher dmg, more hp, a non percentage-based stun in Charge and a great initator in Netherstrike. SB is also able to get a kill earlier than Troll as he's fairly strong as soon as the ulti is obtained, while Troll needs a bit higher level before he reaches his real height. Against Troll with your build, I would give my SB MoM, Treads, a few Bracers, some regen and wards. This could perhaps be enough to get a kill as your build doesn't provide that much hp and leaves Troll quite fragile.

I think the game would be even and luck-based, but I also think SB could have a slight advantage during early-mid because of his ulti and charge that buy him some time to score a few free hits.

I might be totally wrong here, as I have never played this exact matchup against someone equally skilled, but I really don't think Troll would win as easily as you're saying.

And please, skip all these "lolz...", "bow! bow! bow!", "hahaha...", "pronobz" etc. Really, it only makes you look ridiculous. This is a forum which, if you haven't noticed, is made for discussions and arguments and not childish flaming and bullshit like that. Argue against people if you don't agree, but don't run around thinking you're right about everything and talk bad about people that don't share your opinions.
It's all about good manners, you should try to get some too.[/quote]

ok2.
you win...
i wont argue.
its your opinion you want to respect on.
hahaha...

and about charge seeing WW.
O.o
really?
i tried WWking the charge nxt thing i new.
he never reached me.
>.<
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Edwaard


Killing Spree Posts: 79 Joined: 06 May 2007 2307 gold

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 6:04 pm

[piG]Jenan wrote:
ok2.
you win...
i wont argue.
its your opinion you want to respect on.
hahaha...

and about charge seeing WW.
O.o
really?
i tried WWking the charge nxt thing i new.
he never reached me.
>.<
I wasn't trying to "win" anything, I'm just sharing my thoughts. And I don't understand the rest you wrote, can't comment any further.

Imagine a forum where everyone has an attitude as ignorant as yours. GEEEEZ!
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