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omniknightmaster


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Sonte Master Theif

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:11 pm

Once the best thief in Azorath, Sonte could rob even the most secure places. Although, even a person of his stature had some honor. He never robbed the poor or the sick. Other than those two exceptions, everyone else was fair game. Sonte made his fatal mistake when he attempted to steal from a whole brigrade of soldiors that were carring a shipment of gold to the troops on the front line. While tring to carry all of the gold away, the general of the birgade saw him and ordered a massive manhunt for him. Two days later he was captured, and thrown in jail. Now he is out and ready to do what he does best, and the only place that lets him do that is the Scourge. Now Sonte fights not for the ideals, but to make his fortune from the enemy on the front lines.

HP:467 .45 a point per second
Mana: 234 .36 a point per second

STR: 19: +1.3
AGI: 24: +3.1 Primary
INT: 12: +1.5
IAS: 1.48
Movespeed: 310

Keen Sight (S) Sonte has a keen eight sight and thus grants him the advantage of being able to veiw his targets from a distance.
Lvl 1: +50 vision range.
Lvl 2: +100 vision range.
Lvl 3: +150 vision range.
lvl 4: +200 vision range and far sight.

Knife Throw:(K) Sonte can throw daggers with extreme speed, so fast the human eye can't see him move.

Lvl 1: Throws 4 knives, each knife deals 20 dmg, has a .1 ministun, and Sonte has a .4 sec. cast time.
Lvl 2: Throws 4 knives, each knife deals 30 dmg, has a .1 ministun, and Sonte has a .3 sec. cast time.
Lvl 3: Throws 5 knives, each knife deals 40 dmg, has a .2 ministun, and Sonte has a .2 sec. cast time.
Lvl 4: Throws 5 knives, each knife deals 50 dmg, has a .2
mini stun, and Sonte has .1 sec. cast time.
Cd: 25/25/25/25
Cost: 110/120/130/140
(note) Cast time is total, as in all five knives put together. Also each knife is counted as magic dmg, and range is 500.

Rob The Dead (D) Sonte has learned that even the dead have gold to loot, even after being robbed by another.

Lvl 1: Gets 5 gold per corpse around him in a 250 aoe, 3 max corpes, and misses 40% of the time.
Lvl 2: Gets 5 gold per corpse around him in a 300 aoe, 6 max corpes and misses 35% of the time.
Lvl 3: Gets 10 gold per corpse around him in a 350 aoe, 9 max corpses, and misses 30% of the time
Lvl 4: Gets 10 gold per corpse around him in a 400 aoe, 12 max corpses, and misses 30% of the time.
Cd: 30/30/30/30
Cost: 90/100/110/120

Ultimate: Silent Death:(I) The easiest way to rob a person is to kill them, and to make sure that there isn't a scream Sonte has made sure to shut them up.

Lvl 1: deals +25% dmg, +100 dmg, and silences for 2 seconds, during the silence time Sonte moves at max movespeed.
Lvl 2: Deals +50% dmg, +150 dmg, and silences for 4 seconds, during the silence time Sonte moves at max movespeed.
Lvl 3: Deals +75% dmg, +200 dmg, and silences for 6 seconds,
during the silence time Sonte moves at max movespeed.
Cd: 120/140/160
Cost: 200/200/200
(note) The bounus dmg is added after all other calcuations have been made. Range is 100 (melee).

Synergies: Silent Death+ knife throw, Rob the Dead + keen sight.

Builds: early
Early game is boots and that is it.
As early game is winding down, make sure to use pickpocket alot, and get boots of travel.

Mid: Make sure to get Sang and Yasha and Loathars Edge.

Late: Now you are going to a Deso and then bfly.

(Note) Early game you may need to beef him up. So don't be afraid to get some belts of orge strength, or gauntlets.

Quicky strats. When using Sonte, make sure to get rob the dead to farm, and then knife throw to harrass. Also later in the game, get the extra vision because sonte is a prime gank target because of his low total life.
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jimboh


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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:17 pm

I like the hero, some originalities too as well as balanced. I would increase though the gold stolen from pickpocket, as it has high cd. Make it 50 gold at lvl 4 for example or give it a 15-20 sec cd.
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omniknightmaster


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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:25 am

hey thanks for posting and one question? u The ulti isn't over powered... AMAZING!!!!

Thanks for the feedback
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getatmedog


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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:14 am

I like the no collision size skill. very inovative. I think the ult may be a little over powered.. the +damage in addition to the % increase could be IMBA. Would like to know more about the knives? Please explain more.

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jimboh


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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:33 pm

Knives: in lvl 4, he deals 250 damage and a total 1 sec stun in 0.5 sec. cast. Rnged I suppose.
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greasedupcat


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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:53 pm

Seems a nice and Balanced hero, synergises well and original. But the Master Theif is known as Garret. Always will be
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omniknightmaster


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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:06 am

getatmedog wrote:
I like the no collision size skill. very inovative. I think the ult may be a little over powered.. the +damage in addition to the % increase could be IMBA. Would like to know more about the knives? Please explain more.


hey im here to answer your question. Just as Jimboh said, at level 4 it is a 250 nuke, and also a one second stun. The range is 450 does that answer your question?

What I (personally) find "different" about that move is that until lvl 3 it ha a shorter or same cast time as the stun, so it is totally useless until aroud the start of mid game.

If anyone has any more ideas for Sonte, don't be afraid to say so. I'm going by your feedback!
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JuKeA


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Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 10:36 pm

this is to imba stop making pickpocket
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omniknightmaster


Killing Spree Posts: 82 Joined: 20 Feb 2008 gold

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:54 pm

JuKeA wrote:
this is to imba stop making pickpocket


ok dude, ummm... ur the only one that says that its imba, but still wat if i nerf it to what i used to have witch was 20 at lvl 4?
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chynezriceboi


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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:23 pm

gold steal is one of the most retarded skills to put in a war3 game. they would definitely remove this skill.
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omniknightmaster


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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 5:48 pm

ok so ill revome the skill and put something else in kk?
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omniknightmaster


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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:16 pm

there i changed it so happy?
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TalkToFrank


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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:27 pm

its good now...but make something that he doesnt always finds gold...cuz sometimes ppl dont have gold with them Wink
I really like the hero but about the 1st skill...do the creeps still attack u when u attack the enemy hero? hopefully and the 30% evasion...hmmm is probs abit too much put it down to 25 or 20 and make it like voids so that it doesnt stack directly with butterfly...
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 7:16 pm

first skill screams imba (no comment needed....its just gay)

second skill is alright...depending on the interval of the ministuns (if it's short then it's ok)

third skill screams imba (even alch has to actually kill the creeps...)

ulti is alright as well...actually that might be the one thing that needs to be buffed (all it does is about 250-450 damage)...maybe add in increased attack speed and movement speed?? i dunno, do something tho
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omniknightmaster


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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 2:53 am

thanks for the suggestions. they made me realize how stupid some of the abilities were. especially the first Smile. ok i've made it so he is slightly more balanced hope you like the new abilities.
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