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eljimo


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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:52 am

What about Magina VS TerrorBlade? :P battle between brothers.

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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:05 am

eljimo wrote:
What about Magina VS TerrorBlade? :P battle between brothers.

I'd say Terror. He pushes faster than Magina and he has better lane control.
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balonies123


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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:12 am

who will win in a naix vs broodmather game?

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eljimo


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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 7:34 am

if both farmed well then naix will probably win at the end. Coz he can use his ulti to hide away from broodmother's ulti, and then open wounds on broodmother afterwards to fight back. But early/ early-mid game naix probably have to pay really defensively as he's quite weak early game compare to broodmother.

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eljimo


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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 7:39 am

btw to Flodian, I agree with that Terrorblade will push faster but magina has a higher att (coz of mana burn) and can blink away to ensure his safety and also to chase up for a kill whereas Terroblade can only rely on either basher or slow from items for a kill which won't be able to kill magina coz of blink. A well played magina should be able to own terrorblade before his images get strong to push.

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infernance


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Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:20 am

haha i'd wanna see
drow vs drow Very Happy
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Shadowinks


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Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:35 am

Anyone knows what is the best counter for kunkka and tidehunter? I really hate these heroes.....
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Mortal Tree


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Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:01 am

Guys i need mad help!
I have to face Weaver 1vs1 -om.
my 3 ideas are: NA, Slardar, and Roofy. Which one is best? and if none, which hero should i choose? shot guys.
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folechno


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Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:13 pm

infernance wrote:
haha i'd wanna see
drow vs drow Very Happy

Whichever Drow farms better and gets silence

Shadowinks wrote:
Anyone knows what is the best counter for kunkka and tidehunter? I really hate these heroes.....

Kunkka now has mana problems so mana burners can work against him, so NA is good, Magina is good, KotL is good

Tide is a tank, so tank killers work, Naix, Huskar, late game dps heroes, he also has some mana issues so burners will work as well

Mortal Tree wrote:
Guys i need mad help!
I have to face Weaver 1vs1 -om.
my 3 ideas are: NA, Slardar, and Roofy. Which one is best? and if none, which hero should i choose? shot guys.

I don't think NA is that good unless you are sure you can kill with your combo since Time Lapse is a reset button that owns you

tree isn't that good either since he has just go invis or time lapse to get out of Overgrowth and then Tree doesn't do that much

I would suggest another ranged hero, that way you won't get harassed as much and would be able to farm

Huskar might work, early game harass a lot with burning spears, tank up a little and get regen, that should stop weaver from farming, just a thought
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TalkToFrank


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Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:32 pm

@above good for countering tidehunter are manaburner, yes but I would go for an image hero since you can then get manta (I dont consider them as "normal" manaburner)
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mshepley


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Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:48 pm

for drow vs drow i would assume one drow would get frost arrows. this drow will lose. to win this fight max out stats and trueshot aura and of course your ult. reason?

assume 5 attacks at 100 dmg (for the sake of the calculation).

now if you are getting hit with frost arrows lvl 4 that is 20% attack reduction rate so you only get off 4 attacks, that's 4 * 100 = 400 dmg.

now assume you got trueshot aura instead. that is +28% dmg so each of your attacks does 128 dmg. So even though you are only get 4 attacks compared to his 5 attacks you will win b/c 5*100 = 500 but 4*128= 512 (and that doesn't even count the bonus you will have because you went stats!

After you get max trueshot aura, get silence (ONLY if he got frost arrows) otherwise get yourself some frostarrows now.

items: attack speed and critical strike and dmg..... lothar's would be nice just in case he sneaks up on you with less than full hp.
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elgato


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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:25 pm

mshepley wrote:
for drow vs drow i would assume one drow would get frost arrows. this drow will lose. to win this fight max out stats and trueshot aura and of course your ult. reason?

assume 5 attacks at 100 dmg (for the sake of the calculation).

now if you are getting hit with frost arrows lvl 4 that is 20% attack reduction rate so you only get off 4 attacks, that's 4 * 100 = 400 dmg.

now assume you got trueshot aura instead. that is +28% dmg so each of your attacks does 128 dmg. So even though you are only get 4 attacks compared to his 5 attacks you will win b/c 5*100 = 500 but 4*128= 512 (and that doesn't even count the bonus you will have because you went stats!

After you get max trueshot aura, get silence (ONLY if he got frost arrows) otherwise get yourself some frostarrows now.

items: attack speed and critical strike and dmg..... lothar's would be nice just in case he sneaks up on you with less than full hp.


have u for once, just a lill bit thought of the armor?!
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folechno


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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:53 pm

elgato wrote:
have u for once, just a lill bit thought of the armor?!

which will benefit the Drow who get stats, only making his point stronger
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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:04 pm

yep but drow vs drow would be very booring game with lothars...every 1 just hiding...did we have slardar vs. gondar? if not then pls that one if we had it already who would win in an ALL lane 1v1 dazzle or which doctor?
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folechno


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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:48 pm

WD since he has a good combo, while Dazzle is support he can't do that much offensively
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