Does 9 Bonus Damage make a significant difference??

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:01 am

S and Y is an ok item for him. but MOM is better. since you already got a chase skill and your ultimate is for finishng off.
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:35 am

i think better attack speed items should be gotten on void for his bash. like MoM, butter, etc
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:48 am

What i really want to know his how the two posts at the bottom of page 1 are posted on september 28th and lots of posts at the top of page 2 are september 27th o.O
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:59 am

Wouldn't you get more damage output from MoM on SB? Probably not as much MS but way more attack speed and bashes.
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:39 am

lol both can have the benefit of SnY. but on my opinion SB should have it as his core coz of ms, chase, damage thingy like everyone else mentioned already. on the other hand void can use it too combined with vlads for the missing lifesteal but still butterfly is a must for void that buying SnY+lifesteal will slow your build.
I would say SnY is not really the best item for Void, Iwould rather buy MoM, Butterfly, Treads as his core.
MoM for SB is useful also for temporary speed burst but remember, SB doesnt have a defensive skill like Void has so even for the cheap cost and lifesteal, ill still go for SnY (stats and permanent ms/damage/attack boost).

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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 2:20 am

no sange and yasha on void,

because void is not a chaser.

he is a holder and killer
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 2:29 am

he won't need SnY coz his permabash
makes the enemies' world stop...
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 6:22 am

lol, nobody seems to get what i mean.
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 6:51 am

The good thing about sny is that it is always on unlike the mom and it gives str and agi and ms and ias which increases your survival. All this is needed by barathrum. Void on the other hand prefered mom than sny because sny is costly and what void really need is a ias for his bash. His chance of bash is annoyingly high thats why 75% ias can perma bash your enemy if your lucky.5400>1950(I think)For the price mom is like cheaper version of sny that gives more ias same ms and a bonus lifesteal but only for 12secs which is reasonable.....

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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 6:56 am



and this doesnt explains anything at all.

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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 7:10 am

s&y for bara is great
not only you get the benefits of 70+ damage, the bonus ms is also a huge factor, escaping, chasing...... ok that's just what everyone said... its just that every thing that s&y has benefits bara...

s&y for void
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 7:16 am

If SnY is stupid on void, its nearly just as stupid for SB.

every1 agree?
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 7:36 am

nop.. sny is crucial on SB, cos of his empowering haste skill
but what people hav never thought of is BoT on SB
i find its much better, u can compensate the lost 30 % aspd easily lategame.
it gives u about 10-20 more damage and makes ur MS maxed even w/o charge of darkness.. cos sny increases the + 75 or w/e ms again by some 15 %
so, sny is THE item for SB, at least in my opinion........

now look at void, hes a lategamer for sure, and sny is best when made early / midgame on heroes other than SB, Night stalker, etc..
and secondly, if u make sny u cant make void's BEST item ( my opinion)
mask of madness..
cos ORB EFFECTS DO NOT STACK..
vlads is of no use, the point of MoM is lifesteal + huge aspd increase in chrono...
and third, sny wastes a slot of space on a hero like VOID who has potential to farm much better items at lategame..


wow... what a long post :P my fingers hurt
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 7:39 am

sorry for double post, but pls tell me why exactly u make SNy on void, there might be a good reason that pwns my previous post :P
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 7:46 am

@Mirana0406
WRONG! Permabash is rare(even with good items I calculated something <10%). Usually the bash breaks a few times so you need to chase. Both of these heroes have 2 chasing skills. TW/CoD, Chrono/NS. CoD>TW, Chrono>NS, so they are more-less similar.
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Neither should get S&Y, too expensive for ms. Better get lifesteal. MoM usually does the trick. If not, get Satanic. Just don't expect allot of kills without ms.
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