Manta Dragon = 3 Dragons??

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 2:03 pm

seeing 3 dragons flying just kicks assz!!!

LOL!!!


Especially when the line up is:


DK with manta
Centaur with manta
Meepo
Chen or Darkseer
Terrorblade



So many units!

only problem is Earthshaker^^
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Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 2:14 pm

is centaur with manta a nice/good build?
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Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 2:17 pm

hmmmm...kung pustahan eh sa madalas kc ganto strat kay davion..

ur build musta be/
treads
radiance
heart
bkb


when your lvel 16.. dragon form then bKb dont mind the other heroes just continue on hitting the tower or rax.. coz the drogon has amplified damage on structures..


sure win


manta isnt advisable thou.. TRIED AND TESTED
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Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 2:22 pm

yes, i saw a pro centaur player tried manta on him. and it's awesome.

THE reason why caentaur bought manta so that he can form images(centaur already has good stats so i guess manta images of him are kinda strong)


he want images kasi lahat ng team mate niya nagiging madame at may images din.

here's their line up and they won:

Chen with domi= 5 centaurs
Centaur with manta= 3 centaurs
TB also with manta= 5 TB
Meepo= 4 meepo
Dk with manta = 3 lvl3 imba frost dragons

= total ownage!



their opponents didn't expect a line up like that.^^
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Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 2:22 pm

IMO, any hero is okay as long as may tank(DK) and support(cgro omniknight/silencer pra s global silence)and 3 massive killers.

if you want a clash team, try magnus,lich,razor/viper,venge,ang OG. you'll have a line-up with powerful nuke(lich's ulti), AoE disables OG+reverse,terror ni venge for minus armor and viper/razor to slow/chase enemies.

you can make a lot of combo here... reverse+terror+lich's ulti+OG then swap/slow fleeing enemies. or you can try the venge's lothars combo by using WW,terror then swap OG/magnus then spam those AoE ultis, sna nk2long aq..gud luck s inyo.

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Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 2:24 pm

In making a line-up you need to have at least 3-4 supports and 1-2 carries. Support heroes doesn't mean that they are not hero killers, in fact they are the heroes that kill alot early to mid to keep your late gamers protected.

Good supports are:

Vengeful
Zeus
Nerubian Assasin
Rexxar
Omni
Dazzle

These hereos can do well with little or no items and they have stuns/slows that will help ensure a kill.

The carry hero farms and takes care of things late game but the best carries have to be able to hold out early to late.

Skeleton King
Brood mother
Terror Blade
Dragon Knight

are powerful late gamers who can do well early and still own late game.

Finally you need synergy. In a team clash your team need something to turn the tides into your team's favor.

Ravage and Guardian Angel are good for turning battles around turn a battle around.

Echo Slam and Infernal are good for initiating

Haunt and Wrath are good for finishing

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Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 2:27 pm

hmmmm...cge masubukan nga ung line-up na un...^^

if only we have a good silencer user in our team...hehe^^
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Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 2:38 pm

@fwii~

do you know how to counter this line up?

because this line up kick our sorry assesz in our recent game...

it's only 4vs4, i'm not included, i'm supposed to be enigma but the opposing team is 1 player less.


OUR TEAM:

Nevermore
Magnus
Razor
Treant


THEIRS:

Medusa
Leviathan
Viper
Mirana




any suggestions on how to beat their line-up? (o_O)??


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Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 2:48 pm

Magnus - ultimate
Witchdoctor- maledict, paralyzing cask, death ward
Lich - chain frost
Omni - Heal magnus

when opponents fight back, cast omni guardian =3
then whack whack... omni's aura slows fleeing enemies + lich nuke..
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Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 3:01 pm

Levi is your main problem there, thanks to his kraken's shell he can get out of disables faster and ruin your comboes with ravage. I don't recommend focusing to heavily on huge disables and AOE when he is around. Line ups that relies too much on chaining ultimates usually get messed up by guys like Levi. If Levi is pick try a different approach maybe a ganking line-up where you single out one hero at a time.

Specter
Zeus
Furion

They all your their ultimates
Specter looks for the weakest and most vulnerable target to reality to while furion backs him up if necessary.

Adding omni knight and chen can also help, he can cast guardian angel after ravage and chen can heal if needed.

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Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 3:15 pm

does manta turn a dragon-form DK into 3 dragons??? i don't think so, cause when i used banehallow, i bought manta and then i activated it while im in shapeshift and the shapeshift was removed with illusions of normal banehallow???
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Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 3:16 pm

buy DPS and damage ITEMS, DK is not tank to be honest he is more like pusher / killer
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Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 3:21 pm

manta dun work if u're in dragon form!!!!

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Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 3:39 pm

zzz...

if you shift click with manta you can stay in Elder Dragon Form...

and btw, the effects dont stack and i dont think they work on ur images btw. and Manta is a good item on Centaur cause images need a lot of stats to be good and Centaur's ulti does that for him.
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Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 3:40 pm

Manta Style does work with Elder Dragon Form.

You must move, then hold shift and press "R" for Elder Dragon Form, and then use Manta Style and then release shift. Your images will have your splash attack but of course, it is reduced. They will, however, NOT have your frost attack. Most people think that frost attack stacks with images but it doesn't. It's the same thing with Terrorblade if you get an Eye of Skadi. If you use your images with Terrorblade, only your real hero will slow and not the images. If you don't believe me, test it out. Other items such as Armlet will work through images if you activate it beforehand. What I find that is awesome is that if you activate Armlet and then split into images, your images will have the bonus stats from Armlet but at the cost of nothing. Radiance will also work.

The drawback for Manta Style is that you won't have any mana burn but you do have frost attack. Your images do not frost attack either so Manta Style is one big waste in my opinion.

My build for Dragon Knight would be Power Treads, Battlefury, and Armlet. That's my core build. From there on, I usually get an Assault Cuirass, Satanic, or stack Hearts of Tarrasque.

Now, about Battlefury. I know, I know, the average idiot is gonna complain and say Battlefury is trash because the cleaving attack does not stack. Now that is completely stupid to ignore Battlefury because of the cleave not stacking. You still get +65 damage, 6/hp sec regeneration, and 150% mana regeneration. You won't be in Elder Dragon Form 24/7 so the cleaving attack will help when you're in human form.
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