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Pitlord as the best supporter /disable ?
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Pit lord is very powerful supporter, but remember that he can also play killer, pusher, caster. He is a very versitle hero, and I would say that he is the best farmer in game.
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tChui wrote:
Pit lord is the worst hero in Dota without question. If you say he's a good tank, he's bad... All tanks either have 1 disable that last a long time or multiple disables, and also can nuke. Examples are Tide, Earthshaker, Magnatar, etc. All these have long, multiple stuns that also hurt alot.
If you say he's a good pusher, he's also not good at it. Like stated above, Ezalor can push better than almost all other heroes. Others include Prophet, chen, etc.
"For pitlord, he is a semi tanker, pusher, disable, stunner, slower, hexer. He gets his item fast also."
If you're going to say that there isn't a Dota hero that can do all the above then your pretty much wrong there. Earthshaker is the greatest support/ hero killer/ disabler/ tank Dota has. Anyone that has ever played ES right or played with a good ES can say that ES can carry, hero kill, push, disable, and basically anything Sh*tlord can do and do it 5 times better.
Pit lord is the worst hero in Dota without question. If you say he's a good tank, he's bad... All tanks either have 1 disable that last a long time or multiple disables, and also can nuke. Examples are Tide, Earthshaker, Magnatar, etc. All these have long, multiple stuns that also hurt alot.
If you say he's a good pusher, he's also not good at it. Like stated above, Ezalor can push better than almost all other heroes. Others include Prophet, chen, etc.
"For pitlord, he is a semi tanker, pusher, disable, stunner, slower, hexer. He gets his item fast also."
If you're going to say that there isn't a Dota hero that can do all the above then your pretty much wrong there. Earthshaker is the greatest support/ hero killer/ disabler/ tank Dota has. Anyone that has ever played ES right or played with a good ES can say that ES can carry, hero kill, push, disable, and basically anything Sh*tlord can do and do it 5 times better.
TOTALLY agree. In a perfect of 10 in pushing, killing, supporting and tanking Pit Lord would get a 6/10 in all. Noone needs heroes who don't have a particular role in game. Other carry, other tank, other support, Pit Lord has a bit of everything, but not enough in any of them. (Maybe Dark Seer only can be compared to him suckiness ^^)
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Moon_Raven wrote:
Pit lord is very powerful supporter, but remember that he can also play killer, pusher, caster. He is a very versitle hero, and I would say that he is the best farmer in game.
Pit lord is very powerful supporter, but remember that he can also play killer, pusher, caster. He is a very versitle hero, and I would say that he is the best farmer in game.
Exactly!
Where in the game can you get a 2k+hp disable and tank and semi carry hero? Int heros are too fragile.
I also must empahsize, pitlord's mana regen actually quite fast if you get the correct items on him. Like battlefury, perseverance(later on to get another b.fury or linken sphere)
I was also in this situation where a LR came to my tower with 2 creep wave i casted firestorm and there goes his push and lots of gold for me. of course i can't beat him 1 on 1 but i can definitely support my team to kill him.
Pit, firestorm, explusion, hex.
Lastly i don't mean you can own a game if you choose pitlord, many factors like good team work, good heros must also be present to win a game.
Just a tip when using pitlord, get void stone as first item.
Cast firestorm only when the enemy have many creeps and your own creeps are blocking them. You'll be amazed how good you can farm
no last hitting required. of course it will be faster when last hit.
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IMO, this post is completely pointless. of cos he can farm okay and he can support / disable / tank / dps.
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maybe traxex can own him..but PL is good enough if 5 on 5.. with his ulti, we can gangbang our enemy..this hero can be a tanker.. i think that s the best choice..
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People who try to play PL as a hero killer are playing him completely wrong. He is MEANT to be a support disable + semi-tank. Ever read Kakee's guide? Tells you everything you need to know about PL. You will most definitely FAIL if you try playing Pit as a hero killer, so all you have to do in a team game is support like mad with the imba farming that you can do. I'm not saying he's the best farmer, but definitely one of the best. Let's weigh the pros and cons:
PROS:
- Semi-tank
- Support
- Can disable a whole team
- Massive AOE damage potential with Firestorm/Expulsion/Radiance
- Crazy farming right from the start
- Can initiate a gank from NOWHERE
- Highly underestimated
- Awesome pusher
- Has good lane control at all stages of the game
CONS:
- No hero killing potential, except getting lucky last hits
- No chasing mechanism
No question here: he's one of the best support heros, if not THE best.
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best support? lol? i think you forgot about Rhasta, Dazzle, Chen, Omniknight, Warlock, Dark Seer, Enigma, and Bane
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jimboh wrote:
TOTALLY agree. In a perfect of 10 in pushing, killing, supporting and tanking Pit Lord would get a 6/10 in all. Noone needs heroes who don't have a particular role in game. Other carry, other tank, other support, Pit Lord has a bit of everything, but not enough in any of them. (Maybe Dark Seer only can be compared to him suckiness ^^)
tChui wrote:
Pit lord is the worst hero in Dota without question. If you say he's a good tank, he's bad... All tanks either have 1 disable that last a long time or multiple disables, and also can nuke. Examples are Tide, Earthshaker, Magnatar, etc. All these have long, multiple stuns that also hurt alot.
If you say he's a good pusher, he's also not good at it. Like stated above, Ezalor can push better than almost all other heroes. Others include Prophet, chen, etc.
"For pitlord, he is a semi tanker, pusher, disable, stunner, slower, hexer. He gets his item fast also."
If you're going to say that there isn't a Dota hero that can do all the above then your pretty much wrong there. Earthshaker is the greatest support/ hero killer/ disabler/ tank Dota has. Anyone that has ever played ES right or played with a good ES can say that ES can carry, hero kill, push, disable, and basically anything Sh*tlord can do and do it 5 times better.
Pit lord is the worst hero in Dota without question. If you say he's a good tank, he's bad... All tanks either have 1 disable that last a long time or multiple disables, and also can nuke. Examples are Tide, Earthshaker, Magnatar, etc. All these have long, multiple stuns that also hurt alot.
If you say he's a good pusher, he's also not good at it. Like stated above, Ezalor can push better than almost all other heroes. Others include Prophet, chen, etc.
"For pitlord, he is a semi tanker, pusher, disable, stunner, slower, hexer. He gets his item fast also."
If you're going to say that there isn't a Dota hero that can do all the above then your pretty much wrong there. Earthshaker is the greatest support/ hero killer/ disabler/ tank Dota has. Anyone that has ever played ES right or played with a good ES can say that ES can carry, hero kill, push, disable, and basically anything Sh*tlord can do and do it 5 times better.
TOTALLY agree. In a perfect of 10 in pushing, killing, supporting and tanking Pit Lord would get a 6/10 in all. Noone needs heroes who don't have a particular role in game. Other carry, other tank, other support, Pit Lord has a bit of everything, but not enough in any of them. (Maybe Dark Seer only can be compared to him suckiness ^^)
Quite simply, i disagree. By far from the worst hero. he has very high base ms and damage. there are many more that are less useful than him. firestorm/expulsion can stop any creep push, no matter how big. In terms of pushing/farming, he scores at least an 8-9. Support he is pretty good at as well, with the aoe disable. comparable to roofy's, just without damage and much lower manacost/cooldown.
then again, I wouldn't say he's the best but FAR FROM the worst.
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I don't think Pitlord is that good. @_@;
We've agreed that he is a supporter, and not a carry, right? Then we go on to say that he is a "monster farmer". If he is a supporter, then why the hell is he farming up all the carry's creeps?! >_<;;
His ult... hooray, you just saved your ally 135 gold. Well done. x_x;
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Boots-chan wrote:
I don't think Pitlord is that good. @_@;
We've agreed that he is a supporter, and not a carry, right? Then we go on to say that he is a "monster farmer". If he is a supporter, then why the hell is he farming up all the carry's creeps?! >_<;;
His ult... hooray, you just saved your ally 135 gold. Well done. x_x;
i agree with that statement in the snese that you shouldnt really farm all the lanes... you should mainly farm neuts wehn possible and use your skills as a means to push, not farm.
I don't think Pitlord is that good. @_@;
We've agreed that he is a supporter, and not a carry, right? Then we go on to say that he is a "monster farmer". If he is a supporter, then why the hell is he farming up all the carry's creeps?! >_<;;
His ult... hooray, you just saved your ally 135 gold. Well done. x_x;
his ulti is fun tho
saves you time, your life, your allies time, your allies life 
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Great supporter and nice disable. Disable is only awesome if there's an awesome amount of corpses nearby though. However, he's the best pusher.
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you wanna know why so few people pick him?
you really wanna know why?
the true reason?
99.99% of all those dota players out there wanna play hero killer/kill hogger.
easily said.
pit lord has a very low kill potential since he has no "nuke" or finisher skill.
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yes very fast farmer firestorm + expulsion + bfury's cleave = instant wave kill.
But after using him i find that he is a very good executer. His pit of malice can execute great combos with Lich chain frost or crystal maiden freezing field and nevermores requiem of soul. Pit lord traps the heroes giving them time to release those ultis.
Hero killer i dont agree. Even those skills are good but not for killing, he can't kill becuz he att so fken slow. Never seen pit lord with beyond godlike. Hes not really a tank just a str hero, a tank is axe bristleback and knight davion because of their high armor or defensive abilities therefore they can tank much better than pit lord.
Pit lords ulti has casting time so you have to cast it earlier. So if your killing an enemy hero and other enemy heroes are coming and you want to tele after you kill the hero. You need good timing cuz if you activate too early and when enemy hero about to die you tele and miss your kill.
I think he should have an ulti like AoE transmute. Like hand of midas but in an AoE, that wya he can become an extreme farmer.
thats my opinion guys
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pit lord is awesome farmer and no one can outpush him exept ezalor... chen cant and furion cant.. coz he would pulvarize those creeps with fire strom... and if he farm's enough for hex and bfury then he can put out much dmg + your team will have much benefit from hex, pit of malice and fire storm u dont really need to kill all times.. who cares if u support good u re team loves u and enemy hates u xD while they are busy trying to kill u u re team mates kill all of them :P he is not strongest or weakest as migrees said but he can really be good.. thats just my opinion no need to argue of it everyone has its :P dont like him? dont play him dont comment him :P
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How about Dirge?
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