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Marina


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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:18 am

outpush him? :O dont think so :S or u ment something else?

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Boots-chan


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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:45 am

Blah blah this topic is about whether Pitlord is the "best supporter/disable" -- but he's not really a very good one, and definitely not the best. x_x;; This isn't whether he's the "worst" or not.
But there's a reason why he's never picked in leagues and his nickname is Sh*tlord. =_=; It's because he's not good.

A good supporter needs very few items to support the team so they can leave all the creeps for their carries to kill. A good example is, for instance... Lich. Mek, Boots, finished. Then you run around ganking. ^_^;

But if you pick Pitlord and run around firestorming the creeps into the enemy base, your allied PA will not thank you, trust me. His ability to support is crap without good items. His carrying is crap with good items. I can't see anything really worthwhile about this character. x_x;
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tiberiumlord


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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:53 am

Read Kakee's pitlord guide and see what you think after that :P
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Boots-chan


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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:09 am

I just read a very good guide about a very bad hero. Wow. I'm sure there is a very good guide on, say, Gondar, too. @_@; But that doesn't make him a very good hero.

A farming Pitlord just eats up all the precious creeps for your real carry. Even the guide admitted he doesn't make use of all those items he can get. x_x It's a very selfish way of playing.
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DoTaNoOb.xD


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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:17 am

i cant seem to use his ulti at the right time. to tell you the truth i dont even KNOW when to use it

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tChui


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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:18 am

Ezalor isn't the only freaking pusher out there. Comparing pitlord to ezalor is like comparing Troll and Warlock in attackspeed. Pitlord sucks in all area of Dota PERIOD!!!! He does not do 1 thing exceptional. You wanna know who can push better? Prophet, Earthshaker, Razor, Mortred with BFury (and incase any of you think "who the hell does that", Bfury is a very faluable on Mortred and people do, do that), Magnatar, Venomancer, Axe, Zeus, Tinker, Luna, Jakiro, ETC. Pitlord stinks at pushing, stinks at stunning, stinks at tanking because he can't stun, cannot carry worth of sh*t. Way better Carry heroes that can actually KILL a hero or even solo kill like..... RAZOR!

Useless hero!
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Marina


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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:13 am

lol chill man :S

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TheDesolatorGun


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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:20 am

This guy is great. Where i play offline i haven't lost a game using him. (this probably will attract comments like : everyone where you play at are nubs, o well...go 4 it if you feel like it :P )

I love the fact that i go Arcane, farm farm farm, i run away constantly and give the impression that i'm fragile, then after some time i come out with a heart and cuirass, and tank them and ministun them and everything. It works out great everytime.

Besides, i like that people think he sucks. That way, i can get to choose him all the time AHH HHAHAHAHAHA ^_^
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ahbeng_12


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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:26 am

tChui wrote:
Ezalor isn't the only freaking pusher out there. Comparing pitlord to ezalor is like comparing Troll and Warlock in attackspeed. Pitlord sucks in all area of Dota PERIOD!!!! He does not do 1 thing exceptional. You wanna know who can push better? Prophet, Earthshaker, Razor, Mortred with BFury (and incase any of you think "who the hell does that", Bfury is a very faluable on Mortred and people do, do that), Magnatar, Venomancer, Axe, Zeus, Tinker, Luna, Jakiro, ETC. Pitlord stinks at pushing, stinks at stunning, stinks at tanking because he can't stun, cannot carry worth of sh*t. Way better Carry heroes that can actually KILL a hero or even solo kill like..... RAZOR!

Useless hero!


Obviously you never even used pit lord before
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Marina


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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:27 am

yea... just coz u dont know to play him and always get pwned that doesnt mean he sux... no offence.. ;p

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[ReVengeful


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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:36 am

He is often chosen by pro players.He is a good supporter,tank.Manta,Guinsoo,Radiance.HoT and maybe HoD.He can farm like a mad.he can push very fast.

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kkefuk


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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:24 am

pitlord owns. if u can play properly, u never get killed.
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Marina


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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:01 pm

ye and ulti is imba gang king XD

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aklo


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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:19 pm

Crash and Burn wrote:
People who try to play PL as a hero killer are playing him completely wrong. He is MEANT to be a support disable + semi-tank. Ever read Kakee's guide? Tells you everything you need to know about PL. You will most definitely FAIL if you try playing Pit as a hero killer, so all you have to do in a team game is support like mad with the imba farming that you can do. I'm not saying he's the best farmer, but definitely one of the best. Let's weigh the pros and cons:
PROS:
- Semi-tank
- Support
- Can disable a whole team
- Massive AOE damage potential with Firestorm/Expulsion/Radiance
- Crazy farming right from the start
- Can initiate a gank from NOWHERE
- Highly underestimated
- Awesome pusher
- Has good lane control at all stages of the game
CONS:
- No hero killing potential, except getting lucky last hits
- No chasing mechanism

No question here: he's one of the best support heros, if not THE best.



Ok how would you play him as a support hero??
How many disable items can you get?
Don't tell me you plan to buy a mek?
The best support item is hex for him. If you plan to get those suky euls, arcane ring, mek on him then your pl will suk.

Basically my point is once you get a hex that is a good enough support / disable already. So what about the 4 item slots apart from your boots?

Battlefury, refresher (if require) , radiance, buriza.
Or replace refresher with 2nd battlefury or heart.

I also urg you guys to try getting battlefury or 2xb.fury buriza and see the crits. He is in no way weak his damage hurts. If the game goes long enough your hp and items will be enough to disrupt the ulti of a ultimate item jugg...why? From my experience....i am quite a farmed up jugg in this particular game but this pitlord is also very farmed up i used my ulti in this team and if not for the pitlord i would have damage the others serverly Urg!

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GaNkStA


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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:24 pm

tChui wrote:
Ezalor isn't the only freaking pusher out there. Comparing pitlord to ezalor is like comparing Troll and Warlock in attackspeed. Pitlord sucks in all area of Dota PERIOD!!!! He does not do 1 thing exceptional. You wanna know who can push better? Prophet, Earthshaker, Razor, Mortred with BFury (and incase any of you think "who the hell does that", Bfury is a very faluable on Mortred and people do, do that), Magnatar, Venomancer, Axe, Zeus, Tinker, Luna, Jakiro, ETC. Pitlord stinks at pushing, stinks at stunning, stinks at tanking because he can't stun, cannot carry worth of sh*t. Way better Carry heroes that can actually KILL a hero or even solo kill like..... RAZOR!

Useless hero!


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