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last_dota_freak!


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Get bonus lifesteal from Enraged and Fury Swipes?

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:37 am

Okay, I'll start this. Vlad is a famous item with Ursa, because now he's ranged melee even without ulti turned on, not melee ranged anymore (Note: strikethrough means I wrote it. Sorry Laughing). So Ursa players usually get it.

My question, can Ursa gain more lifesteal from Enraged and Fury Swipes? If so then, yeah, it's a hell. Also, are 2 HoTs great for him? I usually get these 2 to make his ulti more deadly, as well as more hp and hp regen to survive/tank. Thanks. Smile Hopeful
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sfsy1


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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:41 am

Only FUry swipes.
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jack_the_flipper


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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:43 am

Well I like to get Vanguard over HoT on Ursa and then go for Vlads and Butterfly.
Dagger or Lothars are good 2 ofc.

I actually never understood the ranged thing, but i know that even with his ulti his dps is lower with HoT than with Bfly and evasion is great too.
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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:43 am

yes from fury swipes Smile
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sfsy1


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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:45 am

jack_the_flipper wrote:
Well I like to get Vanguard over HoT on Ursa and then go for Vlads and Butterfly.
Dagger or Lothars are good 2 ofc.

I actually never understood the ranged thing, but i know that even with his ulti his dps is lower with HoT than with Bfly and evasion is great too.


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Mortal Tree


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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:52 am

@jack
Dude thats a good regular agi build, but Ursa isnt played as a regular agi hero.
You definitely need Heart, at LEAST one. Otherwise his ulti wont be as hectic as it can be.

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as said above u only get lifesteal from Fury Swipes coz its ur normal attack where ur ulti is not.
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trapper3000


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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:58 am

U can kill roshan with only this items:
Vlads
Vanguard or even strout shield
and PT

Lvl 4!!!!max out fury swipes

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GaNkStA


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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:03 pm

Thats noob.
i kill rosh every game at level 7 with veno.
And people say i can..
all i have are 2 wraiths and helm of dom.
maybe a calirty poton aswel. lol

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jack_the_flipper


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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:35 pm

I think he still needs IAS, becuz Overpower has 15 s cooldown and with IAS you can land more hits after the 5, what can mean a kill or not.

Anyway you still can go for HoT after Bfly and theoretical becuz of evasion you get 1/3 hp to your max hp (without considering spells).

But I've to say I dont play him often. I dont like him, he kills too fast, just needs a stunner/disabler or ww/blink. Smile

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Marina


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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:43 pm

he plant serpent wards all time i've done it so i know it can be done xD

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jack_the_flipper


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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:47 pm

Hmm I c but thats taking long isnt it?
With decent enemies probably dangerous...
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Marina


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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:54 pm

yea pretty long but still u can kill him Smile

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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 1:00 pm

sfsy1 wrote:
Only FUry swipes.

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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:22 pm

Quiet you! (ganksta)

Where the hell did the topic go anyway? Lifesteal from Ursa's skills... Enrage definitely no, I thought Fury Swipes didn't give it either but now I'm not so sure... especially since I don't tend to get him Vlads.
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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:23 pm

He gets lifesteal for the bonus damage fury swipes gives. Not Enrage because that damage is dealt to the enemy before the blow.

And yes hearts are good because it adds more damage to Ursa's ulti.
Eventhough he is a agility hero, hearts are more popular on him then butterflys.
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