DotA tournament

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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 7:58 am

we need line ups, we have an old one but we can't rely on it forever can't we?
ill list down our old line ups.

Tournament is in our village at teachers village, i fogot the shop name but its using redfox motherboard.

the game will be -lmnp, tommorow , 1 whole-day tournament 24 teams joining. 8am onwards

Senti line up
-rhasta/luna
-tiny
-enigma
-raigor
-Rylai

alternate lineup
-KotL
-Purist
-Enigma
-Rylai
-Raigor

Scourge Lineup
-SK
-Lich
-Magnus
-Krobelus
-Warlock

alternate lineup

-Witch doctor
-SK
-lich
-Leviathan
-Magnus

suggestions anyone?
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:07 am

hoe about in sentinel...

raigor
vengeful
purist
enchantress
enigma?
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:18 am

i don't think that kind of line up would exactly win its way out of a tournament, im looking for a TEAM line up, which means synergizing there skills together and chaining them for complete ownage... sorry for the flame
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:38 am

Scourge:
sand king
Doom Bringer
dark terror
dazzle
bane elemental

doom bringer for tanking pushing purpose (devour+HoM)/hero killing
SK pushing/hero killing
dark terror killing
dazzle support
atropos support/hero killing

sentinels:
Omniknight
traxex
raigor
zeus
chen

Omniknight: support
Traxex pushing/killing
raigor killing/pushing
zeus killing
chen support
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:48 am

hmmm

so push-disable team

well try that
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:58 am

actually your right...

gives you better balance in-terms of push, killing...

gives you beter edge

oh i forgot you can replace sand king with brood mother..
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 9:52 am

we just played at gg we tried the build, turns out it only scourge team worked out, senti team wasn't strong enough to survive late game, scourge team made it to late game coz of bane's disables, how bout replacing traxex with rhasta?

we tried another line up in scourge, (we focused on using scourge at that time)

A herokill-push type team,

Geomancer
Magnus
Sandking
Krobelus
Visage

we pushed out the opponent at lvl 13, were chomping down world tree by then. enemies quitted

krobelus and geo tandem made it out the most at lvl 7

1 net after the other to take full wrath of exor while geomancer poofes the left overs.

Visage solo'd mid and SK Magnus luckily survived without range support.

Visage and Krob pushed while Sk and magnus kills all who oppose, geo lead at lvls while enemies got distracted defending top lane , geo naturally pushed mid and bottom confused enemies where to defend cause geo owned alone...

Wer'e trying this line up in the tourney , if enemies are nukers we cancel out this lineup and proceed with an old one, or one that you suggested.

so any comments with the new scourge line up
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:10 am

good for pushing but less on hero killing...

able to bring down towers quickly

but if aoe users like raigor will be your matched up

better make visage go away from him (earthshaker's ulti relies on enemy number)

magnus is hard to use as hero killer but good tank and pusher
(empower and mighty swing[is that right?])

SK for impale epi combo(also a versatile hero)

krobelus heavy pusher but needs to be toughen against nukers like Lina

no comment on geomance(i haven't use him yet)

and about my sentinels line up
i guess i'm wrong about that one...

(most hero i use are from scourge side)

(sorry for the wrong grammars kinda sleepy..)
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:25 am

y not sleep?

well if a senti team appears with a raigor enigma, well ditch the team and proceed with our old one, but if all we would handle are nukers we can adjust,

magnus and SK are just early game killers, just to keep down other heroes,

yeah magnus is part pusher too, empower and might swing.

krob and geo tandem was just thought off during start of game, net really helps krob, only problem is softness of the lane team very vulnerable to nukers, krob and geo were laned with zeus and sven, we got owned with zeus so we leeched at the tower, so tower leaching is our own way of preventing nukes, at lvl 6 we killed zeus before he gets lvl 4 bolt, net and exor killed while sven tried to kill krob, luckily we soon found out krob's ghost heals here,

visage is just a support killer, really is good with geomancer, visage's slow and creeps really slows down a target hero...

weve got 2 more practice games to go, we will try senti at this game keep those suggestions coming,
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:56 pm

For senti, I suggest replace rhasta with purist, it will be much worth-er. And don't use KotL! In true league, he will only become easy prey. For scourge, be careful for magnus user! Actually, reverse polarity, meladict, and death ward combo is great, not mention chain frost and epi yet. But it is hard to do. Enigma, rylai, sand king, magnus and lich (preferable) HAVE TO buy blink dagger. Witch doctor has to obtain either BKB or lothar. Maiden may get bkb or lothar as well. For comparison, u can see Heaven(HH) 's tread about his tournament too in Gen discussion. I've explained a little more there. Gud LuCk !
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:44 pm

were playing team pick, if were playing senti were gonna try that, anyway, 1 hour before i leave for the tourney, im gonna try to login and out in ds to give tournament status
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 6:59 am

were down to semis, 6 teams remain and 2 hours until the game begins,

its been decided by the judges that were going senti and our enemy is using scourge,
weve seen them use scourge and there usual line up goes

SK
Lich
Warlock
Leviathan
Bane

Weve already thought of a counter,

Silencer
Enigma/Rooftrellen
Raigor
Purist
Rylai

if they change there lineup to a different one were using this line up without a silencer and getting chen, for healing pushing max support etc.

any suggestions?
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 8:32 am


For me the best Senti Team is:
-Top: Venge (Bracer, Wards and Mekan) and Jakiro (BoT, Necronomicon 3, Eul)
-Mid: Lina (BoT, Guinsoo, Wards, Aghanim) and Rylai (BKB, BoT, Blink Dagger)
-Bot: Syllabear (Radiance, Vanguard and Treads on bear and Tarasque and Gaunlets for Sylla)

Nb: Sylla player must be a pro one, since the distance and micromanagement between bear and hero is difficult). He can also replaced by Enchantress (Guinsoo, BoT, Tarasque, Aegis/Rapier).

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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 10:16 am

were fighting championship, a 30 minute break is given so im using it now, the opposing team won their games by pushing, so were using pusher-killer type line up, the one i posted earlier, the match is a best out of 5 match, or a raise to 3 match to make it clear, the score is now 2-1 us 1 opponents 2, both lineups they used a push type, and we luckily pushed them out during 2nd game,

were playing scourge in championship until the end ( tourney rules)

Our opponent's line up in first two battles were

Chen
Syllabear
Purist
Sven
KotL

2nd lineup, we defeated

Chen
Purist
Enigma
Raigor
Vengeful

overall weak line up, we overheard they will be using the first line up again, if not were using the one we used to beat them, our classic scourge line up
Magnus, voljin,SK,Lich, Leviathan, our ace line up, we used weak line ups to measure opponents strenghts,

they were good players, good tactics but wards are the solution to this problem

nxt two fights should be ours,
line up would be

last fight
Krobelus
SandKing
Magnus
Geomancer(me)
Visage

and our ace line up as mentioned above any suggestions? game is starting in 20 minutes, another 30 min break is coming after the next game
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 10:28 am

we tried it already, geomancer works better, brood does initiate a better push but geomancer has more effective uses for the team, farm better items due to numbers, push and hold an enemy until death of exorcism, brood doesnt have disables, besides as long as geo sticks to krob or visage he's safe from killers, we tried it yesterday evening practice we played players pretty much were equal at lvl, net and exor kills like , poof deals decent damage early game and gets better after he gets other meepos,

tourney is starting,

NOTE: feeding for team mates is allowed and also chicken sharing is allowed along with creep blocking only thing not allowed is backdooring
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