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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 9:29 am

@rambol
i heard that too, but imo, the forbidden one is like using raigor's skill to block the creep wave...

anyone can confirm?

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caspian

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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:40 am

As far as i know, creep blocking has been utilised even in competitive play. Blocking as in 'stalling the creeps' movement'. I've never heard of creep-blocking being banned in tournaments. If you are talking about completely blocking the creeps from moving out of the base, then i think, yes, it's forbidden, at least in certain servers hosting dota games. I don't know whether fissure-block is forbidden, though.
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 6:18 am

caspian wrote:
As far as i know, creep blocking has been utilised even in competitive play. Blocking as in 'stalling the creeps' movement'. I've never heard of creep-blocking being banned in tournaments. If you are talking about completely blocking the creeps from moving out of the base, then i think, yes, it's forbidden, at least in certain servers hosting dota games. I don't know whether fissure-block is forbidden, though.

I don't think so, but the only "illegal" creep block is Furion creep block. Simply sprout as much as 3 creeps and once sprout's duration is over the creep stops moving for the rest of the game. Any form of creep block that does that is consider illegal.

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tstiong

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Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 4:26 am

Don't think creep block is illegal in competition. I've participate in many DotA competition and creep blocking is always allowed.
Anyway, anyone know what's the movement speed of those creeps?
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caspian

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Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 2:02 pm

Hmmmm....i don't know. Even DA doesn't have the answer. It only states their movement speed as 'fast'. I think it's 300, cos Luna (ms 320) always moves faster than them.
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 2:07 pm

Melee creeps: 325
Ranged creeps: 310
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 2:50 pm

You can see the move speed of every unit in some of the AI versions like6.33,6.41,6.43b.
Kreep block is legal IMO.Why should be Illegal?

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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 4:51 am

Nice guide. Very useful information.
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genso19

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Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:25 am

guys, my classmate confirmed, I think its TDA rule #9 (I forgot the exact phrase, but its there, it says "Creep blocking is illegal and can result to banning" that guy knows and confirmed the rules, Smile

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caspian

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Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:32 am

@genso19

It's definitely not the type of blocking i'm writing here. The techniques here are universally used by almost everyone who knows 2 piece in dota, including tournaments like CEVOS. That 'creep blocking' is the one that completely stops creeps from moving out of base preventing enemy from getting exp.
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 12:28 am

good guide
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genso19

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Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 2:20 am

@caspian

ok, tnx for that, I kinda misunderstood, I think the other one is drawing the nearby neutral creeps to your own to stop them, thanks again Smile

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Capwn33

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Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 11:18 pm

fwii~ wrote:
I don't recommend blocking the bottom sentinel lane at all since I'm sure the scourge heroes won't be able to block their creeps aswell. Creep blocking is only important in the mid lane where you can get the terrain advantage but what advantage do you get from blocking the sidelane? Sure the battle will be closer to the tower but do you really want that to happen? Unlike the mid lane a successful block will put you above the ramp with the enemy creeps out side your tower range where as in the bottom lane(senti) or top lane(scourge) creep blocking will result in having the enemy creeps within your tower range making it a pain to last hit since the tower can now steal your creep kills.

I wouldn't necessarily say that.. if you do it very well on the bottom lane, as it showed, you can get their creeps to your tower first thing, then he won't level at all early and you will.
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 1:36 am

nice one..i like it^^
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 1:26 pm

Blocking the creeps can also be done with skills such as fissure but what a waste eh...and one more thing, don't delay the creeps for too long of your tower will also be in danger
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