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sfsy1


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New Lycan Early Roshan...

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:00 pm

The rework, considered many to be a buff, to Lycan makes him a extremely good roshan killer at early levels, with just the help of Vlad. Although heroes like Dirge. Veno could do it too, they took much longer time, which make they very very vulnerable.

Do you think this change is a little imba? I personally feel so.

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getatmedog


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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:03 pm

I have not tried that yet??? Describe please. I was thinking maybe with HotD and a Cent or 2 but your saying with Vlads.

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sfsy1


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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:04 pm

Yes, just vlads + Boot.

With just a little microing, roshan is dead in >1 min. Much shorter than veno...
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Tokemus


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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:04 pm

Same as Ursa. At lvl 7-ish (with max wolves or Ursa with max Swipes) you can tear down Roshan with just the help of Vlads.
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serpentson


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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:04 pm

vlads gives damage aura, and your wolves get lifesteal from it as well. Mix that with howl and feral, and he should be able to do it.
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zerojuangabriel


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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:20 pm

Nah its not that really imba but shapeshift is now shapeSHIT you can not slow the 522 ms dawg even with 14 secs you can pawn together with your dawgz that has greater attackspeed and damage due to feral heart. I mean just look he can pawn rosh lvl 7 wow. But my vote is still his not imba in terms of hero killing a comparison to his syle of killing is balanar and balanar has greater potential in terms of killing because of 355 nuke with slow and his ms is fast more than half the game although can be slowed and not 522.

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getatmedog


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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:30 pm

Im gonna try that Vlads and wolves thang. Although, I still have trouble doing the lvl 7 ursa Sad
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turtleisland


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ehheh

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:31 pm

ahaha heres m y personal strat... lvl 7 with vlad and belt of giant.. well you can farm that.. if you own towers you can even have treads and vlads that early... lvl 7.. max wolf and you have your ulti... ..

here... when you just hit 7 while farming or when your in a lane... summon wolf.. then let the wolves attack roshan.. while you go to ur base... then... after youve regenerated and theyre ded summon them and go to roshan with your newly summoned wolves ..then just attack it and release your ulti... lycan is so imba now.. my friends are hella mad everytime i use lycan coz ill BD the shit out of thier towers with just the wolves... usually in a normal game with lycan my lane creep kill is only 25 below... ol money is from neuts and towers... hahahah

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turtleisland


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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:38 pm

and ow with just that 25 below lane creeps.. i usually have treads,vlad,sny,as,mkb etc in a 30-40 min game.. mol towers are mine!!! wahahah i spam wolf whenever possible..

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war1ock


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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:41 pm

yeah its bit imba. i also dont like the new feral. i like the old one better
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darkness79


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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:55 pm

lycan was good. now hes truly imba.. in one game i had radiance assault cuirass vlads satanic treads and the best guy in the opposing team had treads and s and y .. LOL.

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Aliican


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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:19 pm

Can i ask what happend with Lycan, what changed? (im on holiday so didnt play dota for a month:()!!!

He got better?

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Ndenk


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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:13 pm

is that icefrog change a bit the way play lycanthrope because of IMBA? i don't think so, not as same as naix that's got to IMBA to play with and the way icefrog change naix in 6.51 is such a good threat, but i don't think so with lycan

the new lycan, according to me, is a bit difficult to play than previous lycan ^^
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RakatKadaver


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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:41 pm

Yeah, the wolves are pretty imba now. They have like a 110 critical strike with vladimir and howl. So Lycan is now one of the few who can take him on.
I don't count Veno, though. It is possible but it takes too long, and is so not worth it.
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folechno


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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:16 pm

Aliican wrote:
Can i ask what happend with Lycan, what changed? (im on holiday so didnt play dota for a month:()!!!

He got better?

check it out, the lycan page has the updated info, basically all the bashing was taken out, feral heart applies to wolves (but no ms), howl is now global but is a fixed amount of dmg, scapeshift gives max ms which can't be slowed

@topic what's wrong with being able to rosh that quick, I think syllabear might be able to do it to (and it won't take that long either)
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