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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:47 pm

If you have Troll with his 10% bash, then you get 6 bashers. In theory that equals to 100%, and therefore you'd expect to bash every attack if they were to stack. When i tested this it didn't work. I did not bash on every attack as i expected. Therefore my conclusion is that bashers do not stack.
Assuming nothing of the above stacks, if a foe is attacked by the troll above, when he hits that means there is 10% chance to bash him if it lands on the other 90% he doesnt get bashed, and of that 90 because of the first basher it narrows it down to 76.5 (90x.15), then because the second basher is narrowed down to 65.0 the third to 55.2 the fourth to 46.9 the fifth to 39.9 and the last to 33.9 thus meaning that 1/3 of the atacks will not bash, contrary to the 1 of 10 someone would expect if at least the bashers did stack (90% stacked bashers). This supports my experiment, that bashers and skills do not stack. Do you agree?


Of record my search thing does not work so can you tell me what DPS means, and is there any way to see attack speed like you see movement speed in a game?

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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:51 pm

DPS= Damage per second And I've seen attack speed so much faster than movespeed it makes me laugh.

As for the permabash thing, do bashers and the skill "BAsh" stack?
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:59 pm

they stack diminishingly.

first basher=15%

Second is 12% (4/5 of 15)

3rd is 9.6 (4/5 of 12)

4th is 7.68 (4/5 of 9.6)

5th is 6.144 (4/5 of 7.6

and 6th is 4.9152 (4/5 of 6.144)


total bash % of 6 bashers is.... 55.3392

35% is lost in buying 6 bashers, stupidest idead ever.

and yes it stacks with hero bash. The first one stacks undiminishingly i think
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:07 pm

I don't think they stack, say if the first did stack then it would be a first bash of 25, so say it activates, then which happens the 2 sec skill stun or the 1.1 basher stun.

How do i get a signature? Also what i meant to say in first post is is there any command to see attack speed like -ma for moving?

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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:26 pm

lmao... you don't bash on EVERY attack and so you CONCLUDE that bash and skills do not stack - that's a very bold statement (and wrong in most cases). Please refer to the library for information on stacking issues
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:28 pm

rofl owned

bashes stack diminishingly not additively..

anyway coco's equation is correct.
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:35 pm

I always believe in two items stack and i think 2 bashers are enough
when a hero has a permabash it is still undiminished % attack
e.g
troll:10% + 15% +12%

you know its unfair that the items full potential still stack w/ the other such as bfly w/ 30% evasion( just comparing ) hhehe



... sory for bad english heheh

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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:41 pm

lol 4 no votes...
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:46 pm

@Ghost

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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:57 pm

look at coco's post

btw its Mystery
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:05 am



lmao... first he's proven wrong, now you're correcting his spelling.

And now I'd love to know who agreed with him - the dude got 1 "Yes". I think somebody mis-clicked
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:41 am

lol

-coco is right
-there is no command to see attackspeed
-to have a sig go to Profile link
-DPS-Damage Per Second
-Mystery, not Mistery
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:49 pm

The equation is incorrect. Its actually 85% of 15% for the second and so forth, not 80%. The main points stand of course.
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