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dotachampion21


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I'm having probelms perfecting nessaj..

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 5:06 pm

i need help. i have my own kind of skill build, a more farmers skill build, but what i want to know is what items are right for nessaj?
skill build
1.crit
2.blink strk
3.crit
5.crit
6.blink
7.crit
8.blink.
9.blink
10. bolts etc

as you see, im not really a fan of the illusions, but i do use them to push, etc

by lv 11 i would get my battle fury and treads, but by that time, i spend my time farming for those items that wen i finally get it, the opponents have pushed so far on other lanes and im too late in helping my teamates.
can anybody give me a new build? i want it to emphasize the crit and not the illusions and at the same time will help me kill more and help my teamates.


ive seen seen lotsa strategys, but they focus on the manta build and tarrasque to much, i want this build to emphasize on the crit and blink srike and stun. ty ty ty ty
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Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 5:52 pm

Dude, you seriously need chaos bolt early on!
However, if you want a build to synergize with crit and blink, this works well-

2xbracer
PT(strength)
BKB
Hyperstone
Heart
Assault

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getatmedog


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Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:09 pm

If you want to kill more and be helpful to your team then you need, need, need your stun. Blink is good for killing too. Crit should be taken later. Images asap for tower killing. Your item build should include at least one heart. Maybe 2 or 3. You need to boost your stats so that your images will be stronger, so heart is perfect for that. If you are doing really well then EoS is also a very good choice.
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Bloodkraven


First Blood Posts: 4 Joined: 28 Sep 2008 256 gold

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:43 pm

Ive always had the same problem problem as you, wanting to play him as i would a PA. But what ive learned is, hes not PA, he must be played as a ganker/ tanker to be effective in competitive games. Btw you can always get a Euls to disable the opponent, then use phantomism, then stun and destroy the person, its very fun. And it make them rage leave.

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Valcles


First Blood Posts: 39 Joined: 28 Jul 2008 987 gold

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:44 pm

Umm have you forgotten his bread and butter? manta? I usually get treads, manta, fury, and then heart, maybe a hyper. Abuse his high HP by getting another heart and then if yo uneed a second damage item, which you wont cause of your crits, get radiace for some evasion.

Also max out blink and stun early, dont skip his images cause they pwn, then get your crits and stats.
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getatmedog


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Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:54 pm

haha Euls is a cool item for him because it gives him the mana to spam your skills and the ms is not wasted on you becuase of your epic speed. I rarely see it on him though
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TheGunslinger


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Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:05 pm

I max out bolt and blink asap, get illusions at lvl 10 and 11, make battlefury, SnY and just pure own. BoT after that and you will be a great mega chaser.
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Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:13 pm

early game you don't have that much damage, so the crits won't do too much, chaos bolt is much better since it is a stun, also if you are good as last hitting you won't need the crit to proc to get the last hit

so a new build could be (since you don't like illusions)
Bolt
Blink
Bolt
Blink
Bolt
Blink
Bolt
Blink
Crit
Crit
Crit
Crit

since you won't be getting illusions, you won't have mana problems if you don't spam bolt and blink, so Pers isn't really needed in early game for mana regen, so for items I'd go treads, MKB, maybe a bracer or two in early game if you need it

try that and see how it works for you, personally skipping his ulti is bad imo, and 400% damage for 20 sec is really powerful, very useful in team clashes and pushing
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Dominating Posts: 175 Joined: 27 Oct 2007 5067 gold

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 8:11 pm

This is my build and works quite well:
Treads
3*bracers
armlet
vlads
manta/radi (game dependant)
hot or something if game lasts

With this build:
bolt
blink
bolt
blink
bolt
phantasm
bolt
blink
blink
crit
phantasm
crit
crit
crit
stats
stats
phatasm
rest stats obviosly

I get the 3*bracers + vlads early on to be able to get utli early on. *2 damage is not to be underestimated Smile

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Mega Kill Posts: 651 Joined: 28 Oct 2007 20823 gold

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 8:55 pm

Between folechno and polt3r, everything I would've said has been covered. My build is exactly as fole has listed, with exception that I do get ulti. And my items are similar to polt3r's.

In my circle of friends we call it the three-bracer-treads rule when somebody plays CK. With just treads and 3 bracers you can own. I always get a bottle as well, then from that point I farm for armlet and hearts (yes, more than one).
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Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 8:58 pm

Folcheno we have much in common.
Except you write big wonderful posts and i agree with them Smile
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getatmedog


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Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 9:00 pm

I still think he is best built with treads/BoT heart, heart, heart. Maybe throw a Manta in there towards the end when your images will be tanks.
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:07 am

ok first hi. Ok got that outta the way.. Now same build as gunslinger. Storm bolt blink first then crit and others also to the eurls thing... I would only do that trick if I was playing 2.59 coz ck=ed imba. 1 blink strike that was bugged and I only got lvl 1 and I had no cd on it and it said 30 sec cd about 11 his ulti which made 11 illutions then crit with 6% to deal 11 times damage. Then bash 40% to deal some small damage but stun for 2secs. Way worth it. Although the bad thing about blink strike and his ulti was that the hotkey was the same (b) LOL. Then the thing would be eurls wait. Then ulti. Then have him surounded and kill him wahahaha. This is why his ulti is some strange word and also the hotkey is (t) or is it? Also now just go around stun blink hit hit do again simple. Dun worry if u get ksed just farm. Also dun play him dps or lik only dps. He needs health also. Vanguard early bracerS also. Bot also want to push lanes. Hand of madis ftw. Then hearts and ac for tankage. Mainly his images help deal that dps damage. XD.
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