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Strategies:blooo's guide to Slithice the Queen of the Nagas posted by blooo on 2007-05-14Naga Siren Ultimate Copy Maker posted by vengence2006 on 2006-09-07 |
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oh... nobody wants to post for naga siren.
naga siren is one of the scariest heroes i've used. with the help of lothars. this hero is god. how??
wind walk next to your target. then mirror image then ensnare. imagine 4 naga sirens with critical pounding your ass. as for gang bang or clash. lvl1 song of siren is good. it can stop your enemies from doing anything.
How bout combine naga with Mjollnir??i try it my self...quite nice!!!static charge and mirror image is a good combination!!
manta style with radiance and maelstorm is very nice.
naga is so nice..butterfLy works!!
ack, manta n maelstrom both have orbs... go manta + mjolnir immediately if u can farm for it.
i meant that mjolnir thingy... i confuse that with maelstorm sometimes.. maelstorm is good for medusa and lightnin reverant, not slithice :P
Mjolnir has an orb effect too.
I doubt they will stack.
Lol to counter siren i also dont noe but if u are really really pro use DarkTerror( aka timestopper) Darkterror lol is a permabash dude and if the naga uses images pro ppl noe which one is the real and the fake ones btw dont get those Mjollnir-.- those items are for lik razor etc,, siren u wanna own get: Buriza, butterfly, 2 divine, aegis, and u really wanna own go get Mkb also dont get manta style when u can make images thus the manta style images are weak only noobs lik lupeman (no offense) will but manta, maelstorm those are not even for naga-.-
Sorry wongyiheng, manta is a must have for slith. But I agree with the other items you say. Late game w/manta she's impossible to pawn because almost always you have copies. Just make sure to do everything together with the copies and they have no idea who the real one is. But agree mjollnir ok, but not necessary. manta, then butter or MKB whichever will be best for the situation.
hey!! dumbass.. manta does work perfect with siren,. imagine 36mana burn per hit times 7 images along with MkB.. hero without mana is good as dead. and MkB can cancel any channeling skills.. its like 78 hits per second and per hit will cost u 70 - 120 dmg times 7 images.. can u imagine that?!.. with MkB the least of 15% chance to have 100 bonus dmg nd does stack with images..
JUST AN IMBA HERO ,,,JUST...E TI PAIZO RE ..
better than magina when we are talking about mana burning when naga has manta already..
umm, 36 mana per attack, 2 attacks per second, 7 images, wait... nearly 500 mana burned per second if you and your images attack twice per second!!!
Dont use Buriza, criticals dont stack.
7 images??? slithice will create 3 images...the manta will create 2 images...3 images from slithice + 2 images fom manta + naga siren herself = 6 naga sirens...just correct me if i'm wrong =P
manta style... her ulti is a great counter with omniknight's guardian angel... :D
naga is unbeatable with items like this.. manta, heart, mkb, threads, radiance... just decide for the last item.. you are a noob if you can't farm with this character beacuse of mirror..
i've tried it myself.. even chaos knight with 2 hearts can be beaten with just one ensare..
Your mom
ehh....i found my self 2 way 2 be a good killer not with "dream"items like i read before:2xdivine & other stuff,
if i have to deal with hero based on mana like morphling doom etc. i glady use manta style(every inteligent player will realise the naga double it maybe triple it the potential of manta's feeddback) even if is very hard to finish it,but when item is done u can call yourself "instant killer", no one's but no one's can resist to so much mana burn, even for pugna the most inteligent hero is hard to keep his mana safe,near the manta i use boots of speed cranium basher and vanguard.
And the second way is when i have to deal with dagerous hero like barathrum, facelessvoid etc. i use medium items like:power t., Sange&Yasha,Yasha and vladmir.This build serv for forge my movment speed and attack speed not special the damage.Try it at home and u won't be disapointed
naga hisses on sange and yasha,lothars,manta necc.,and max. agility i.e butterfly babe....
naga is a creepy hero
I have a question for you Naga Siren users; what do you do if your opponent, by chance, happens to choose the right one out of your 3 illusions (5 if using Manta Style) and wacks you? Just run for it or keep going going going?
the coolest thing about this hero if u up aganst venomanser or blood seeker if they ult u u just go image and i cancels
why doesn't anyone use basher for silthice? i use two basher and mirror image and the enemy heroes doesnt have any chance to move... imagine... a hero with 30% chance to stun times 6...
is he a late game hero?
when you use nagas ulti, does it really stop bloodseakers rupture?
dual bashers isnt 30%. its 15% + 15% of the remaining 85%. 28.5%. i think images fake bash
i have a q... if naga uses maelstorm and she cast mirror image, can the images trigger the chain lighting?
Ha lothar isa good but Lothar+Manta+Battle fury =
Imagine windwalking to 2 enemy and creating 3 ilusion + Manta +The real siren that have cleaving attack,Feedback,ensnare that used for anti runner, and Cleaving + Critical what better than a solo Gangbang if u have more money buy a Buriza ( coz critical that don't stack makes u have 15% critical + Buriza critical = Unbeatable
i purpose manta 2bashers!!!!
ahahahahah!!! is good and a vladimir or satanic!! huhuhuhuhuhu!!!
satanic would be good for the critical, although critical is 1.5x
who is her weekness???my friend allways chooses her and i h8 it bcoz i kant beat him with it
try nerubian assassin or tiny.
SOng OF the Siren - dEADLy Disable
tiny is the antidote for slithice .... well hes my best hero his grow is amazing and just counter with a battlefury the splash will take out the sirens in 3 hits and he has 2 huge aoe stuns which pretty much shuts down slithices entire offense and he has craggy exterior so every 4 hits the siren and her illusions will be stunned and ull be free so basically Tiny > Slithice hands down
ULTI is just to good
Azwraith can counter this hero. You have 4 clones? pffft, i pity the fool, i hav 8
plus a smart azwraith user will use the real one and a clone to come from behind. u hav a 50-50 chance of being ensnared, but good thing clones can also multiple :P
easy prey for queen of pain+sand king..
queen of pain=scream then wave=kill
sand king=burrowstrike + epicenter=kill
also for axe bcoz if she mirror image it just higher the percentage of axe's counter helix....
Can u atk the person who is being sleeped?
Does Assault Curiass work for the images?
Naga siren is a godlike her for me.Most of the time i used:
1.Manta
2.M'Jolnir
3.ButterFly
4.PT
5.2 Vanguard
This items are enought to be GodLike when use properly.
@deusen
epicenter can be counterd by song of the sirens.
@Danoobifier
you can but the spell will be transfer to you.
@KmKlement
its aura effect so it sure works but not like the original.
I dont think the Ulti is like Atropos's Nightmare skill...
His ulti saves a lot of ases.....
i suggest tidehunter his ulti will surely rip off all his mirrors and all he got to do is runaway..
have you know that the crits of the mirror nagas are only illusions?!?
because if thats the real damage maybe shes very unbeatable now!
core items for naga are SnY and Manta Style
i used the ulti to kill once. how?
ulti, get in front of them, creeps also run ahead which will creepblock as well as dealing damage to the hero, mirror image also to block and deal damage. ive gotten a double kill with this tactic, u would never hav thought that the ulti couldve been used to get multikills
just surround ur enemy with 6 illusions + urself
Lothar's is a must to stay alive in 5 vs 5 match.
Butterfly also worth getting 4 her.
MkB wud really get bonus cancels against
enemy./ power treads
SangeYasha 4 spd-Hp and ms.
Manta style 4 Mana feedback.
Arcane ring to get mana flushes.
She shud have been named
Naga Assassin.
@ Shaman_nick
you cant have two orb effects so it is manta or sny
and manta is better
owned!! with this
Build for Naga:
Treads
Manta Style
Butterfly
Assault Cuirass
2 Wrait Band
alas, someone finally suggested assault cuirass
Naga siren is so powerful esp. when u use its combo...(Mirror image+ensnare).... and equip buy manta style...
4 what is cuirass?..hyperstone? your're a noob..u know dat a hyperstone can kill you.its a suicide..your opponent will notice you with that..but..fast thinking can help you very much..
its good
can anyone help me how to kill this biatch? her mirror image is a pain!!!!!! amf!!!
@dondef
buy cleaving attack(battlefury)
pick strygwyr
pick axe
pick slardar and mark the right with ur ulti 1
@elion
dude i cant even figure out who the real biatch is!!! how do i figure that out??? im such a friggin noob....
@darf-teira- her weakness like most users of illusions are either illusion users themselves or harpbringer. his 1st skill can mostly kill any illusions in 1-2 shots. and his ulti kill most agi ang str type heroes so you dont even have to gues and as for snaring you u can cast astral imprisonment on urself this way u can avoid 4 sec being in contact with siren then show them ur ulti.
GOOd hero...
with all these skills its EXTREME!
the illusions take triple damage, trial and error if ur a ranged hero, the one that takes the least damage is the real one. also u can check by lookn at the regen rate, if they hav fast, its the real one, if they hav slow regen, its a clone
hmm this is a hero killer if u use its skill never use its level 6
1.mirror image
2.ensare
3.critical strike
its is pwerfull it it
use a
1.power treads
2.basherx2
3.butterfly
4.assault cuirrass
5.battle fury
battle fury nid to be the last item
to make her critical more powerfeul
I think her critical is 600 per illusion critical
COMBOS
1. POWER TREDS
2. SANGE YASHA
3. BUTTERFLY
4. VLADIMIR OFFERING
5. HEART
6. MKB
PLA ANY HERO 1 ON 1 WITH THIS COMBOS
OR IN 5 ON 5 ALSO
Hey lupman, does that work on all image heros?
Ok i wan share out my idea which Naga is my favourite HERO which i can 1 tank on 5 enermy hero or be KILLer n unstopable when i get the item i wan~!
First at all i need farm so the item will be like this,
1. Power Treads
2. Battle Fury (very helpful)
3. Butterfly or Manta or Cuirass
4. Manta or Cuirass or Butterfly
5. Cuirass or Butterfly or Manta
6. MKB or Radiance
To be honestly when i get 4 or 5 item, i can be unstopable or killer or tanker or pusher & no body can kill me anymore~
hav a try on my idea~ nice days to u all
This build is called " Faceless Siren "
1. Treads
2. Manta
3. assault
4. buriza
5. radiance
6. busher
using this build, can faceless anti-mage, naix, slardar, QOP, nassajja, mortred, and other windwalkers escape? for me i dont think so! in team play u need an stunner, or use the sleep skill, after this awwwwts.. obcourse armageddon followed to all enemies!
For Naga Siren, i will go for a power treads, sange n Yasha, Butterfly, MKB, Mantle Style and Radiance. OWNAGE!!!
busher is basher right? dont get buriza, waste of slot
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my favorite melee hero on the sentinal side other then battlemaster
Quite strong hero..
Try this on her(1 on 1):
1.Power Threads
2.Vladimir's Offering
3.Vanguard
4.Assult Curias
5.Monkey King Bar
6.Your Choise
P.S don't get her buriza she has crit i don't think crit stacks.
Quite strong hero..
Try this on her(1 on 1):
1.Power Threads
2.Vladimir's Offering
3.Vanguard
4.Assult Curias
5.Monkey King Bar
6.Your Choice
P.S don't get her buriza she has crit i don't think crit stacks.
i tried somethin new,, i had it with dual bashers and a crysalis brought my copies out and ensnared and i was owning :D
she's the only hero i know that can render FIRST BLOOD right from level 1!!! uhmmm
travel
mantas style (6 illusions burn mana w each strike... wow!)
butterfly
vladimirs
s&y
divine rapier
too bad though... illusions cant stun enemies with bash from cranium basher....
RAIN
when i started gorgon, i thought the exact same thing and did your build without reading this forum. But as i've gained more experiance with gorgon. it realy depends what mindset you are in. because if your looking for kills, then chain lightnigh maybe very usefull to finnish a hero off. when i do get the ability, i never use it untill the end. and the reason i get it is because gorgon doesnt have any nukes, normal attack + purge just isn't enough to keep a hero from running alive.
and btw. i dont EVER get split shot. because it's simply useless, unless you suck at last hitting.. i mean. comon' why get split shot when u can just last hit? it decreases your attack. do you realy want that? instead of 8 bonus stats for all attributes?
Oops, wrong hero. mybad
wrong post too >.>
really scray when reched late game
naga siren can beat tiny or barathrum. the only heroes i find it hard to 1 on 1.
1. dark terror -> lategame, this hero is hard to kill.
upon snare, it will time walk olwiz. so you have to chase, till ur illusions are over. but still killable.
2. pugna -> he is good for early game. lategame this hero is dead against slith
3. axe -> nah very bad guy. the worst of all. i prepare 2xcran busher for him with manta
naga seems to be one of the best hero killer and supporter and thanks.
is this a good build
1. power Threads
2. Manta Style
3. Battlefury
4. Buriza
5. Butterfly
6. ????
i want to change the 6th slot for heart of Tarrasque it needs health a lot, her health aint that high neway with my build her health is only 3000
what do you mean only 3000? 3000 is pretty decent for an agility hero already!
what do you mean only 3000? 3000 is pretty decent for an agility hero already!
don buy manta style just buy diffusal blade and bashers
Please don't buy anymore than 1 basher (better yet, no bashers). With a 5 second disable, why do you need to bash? Instead of a basher you could get eaglehorn, which is much better.
i can rape this hero easily, specialy with Axe haha 4 sirens? maybe 7 from manta? o no, not the counter helix again lawlz
they WILL net u always i just use hunger wen she runs and its a kill easily...
Axe is her NIGHTMARE :D
shes cool.
My Naga build is :
Power Treads
Battle Fury
Butterfly
Satanic
Buriza
Vanguard
I've just completed a game ... Beyond Godlike.
Buriza and Manta Style are necessary.
chaos night would be the best enemy for him...
hahaha
Nega Siren!!! Excellent char if u know the tricks :P. Just try it Manta,butterfly radiance, mjollnir (of course power threads)and then whatever u like/or the situation applies. Manta first item after threads and give attention to that. It is called the TRAP, just mirror image 1st, ensare the opponent 2nd,use manta 3d and finally target all the images and press the M button (move) and target the ensared opponnent. Believe me he is trapped and he is dead. Only works with not Anti heros like magnus,leviathan,sven .e.t.c I hope i helped ya
One of my favorite heroes endeed!Whit vladmirs,buriza,butterfly,treads,and MKB she is UNSTOPABLE if you manage to get all these items you will own,trust me.
i prefer PT, S&Y and butterly
u'll be atacking faster, running faster, and u can also have the chance to maim the opponent, he cant escape from u =]
maelstorm is good for naga
PT
Manta
Vanguard
MKB
Butterfly
6. slot is for your choice but i prefer Assault for her. She can kill a lot of heroes at late game.
wow this hero is a blast!!!
When i used this with diffusal the computer only said
:HOLY SHIT:
Wow i like this hero it rocks
Will images benefit from vladmir's auras?
one thing this hero has that you must be aware of....
FUCKING RAINING MULTIPLE CRITICAL HITS!!!
2 BFLIES + items of your choice will rake this babe's and her clones damage to 700+ late game...
and that is one super fast hero kill..
imagine 10 successful hits of EACH siren will result in a whopping 7000+ damage...
that's freaky...
BoT
Manta Style
Butterfly
Heart
This guy is IMBA u just mirror image then use manta and then net them then whack them if they get away just put them to sleep and surround them
i used naga last night and i was on a killing spree before level 6. i was in the lower lane with rexxar and we were against luna and silencer. level 1 movement speed is fast even without boots. you can easily catch up with escaping heroes and ensnare them. my build was power threads, 2 wraith band, battlefury and vladimirs offering. the game was over before i could buy butterfly...
..... I think radiance i good for this hero. to think 4 nagas with the damage of radiance(the sparkling thing)....
battle fury????????????????? for what dude!!!
wow!!!!!!
pde gd kapatay hero bskan sa atubang sa tower
te?manami man
naga the rapeer!!!!!!!! ay naku gash
TANGINA NYO MGA BISAYA WAG KAYO AMGKALAT DITO!MGA GAGO!...
HUGE MOVEMENT SPEED HERO. .
Just Try this item
Manta Style
Buriza
Power Treads
Mkb
Butterfly
With just 5 item like this Slitiche became a Goddes of War.Imagine 6x36 mana burn each attack. .With very deadly strike. .If u been atack by viper strike u just need to mirror image than the effect is gone. .To escap for GB just use your ulti n wait for your friend came and counter strike. .Perfect for destroying tower. .
Tonight i was beyond godlike with this naga (19-3). At the first it was very hard ,but later i collected enough money to buy some items.
My final build was:
1. Power threads
2. Buriza (key to pwning)
3. Buriza (key to MORE PWNING)
4. Eye of Skadi (cold attack ,some dmg ,some other sht ,but very useful ,it helped me very much)
5. Butterfly
6. Hyperstone
The main thing is to create burizas. About level 20 with two burizas u kill 20 lvl int hero in few seconds. (85% chance crit)
One more thing why is important to create burizas:
Passive skill criticals ( 45% 1,5) and buriza crits (40% ,2) doesnt work togetger ,so you can make double crit. For example passive crit dmg (350) and buriza (500) ,so 850dmg. I killed rylai ,atropos ,kael and tinker with 2-4 hits sometimes without clones.
isn't naga's cooldown for "song of siren" decreases per level???
lol think abt it imagine naga's copies with dark seer's "wall of replica" and manta style. That will be like 10 or more copies with criticals pounding ur a**.
vlads,manta,threads = GG ^^
hahhaha farming for naga is the best xDD
when he already have the items manta+vladimir's+MKB the best xD
does any one know if you cant attck after you did siren
does any one know if you cant attck after you did siren
ohh Naga is soo hot
why is no1 promoting vlads.. its fkn leet on her.
treads
diffusal blade
vlads
(at this point in an em game you can bring down enemies fast, as no1 is high enough level to be to tank(except for extreme tanks) just image, rope and hit with all images.. 4 seconds later the gold is yours)
manta
mkb
w.e
she doesnt need lothars.. if being ganked by 1 rope them (works against linkens coz its not magic) if more than 1 ulti and run.. the cooldown is usually finished by the time you return.
shes a great hero to use! ^^
@Sysspupp
Oh lol, better get your facts straight, crits override, which means you cant make 2 crits at the same time, also meaning Buriza is a huge waste of money. Go for an AC instead.
haha just played with her today
so good
no hero could beat me 1v1
and i was against viper, am, centaur, and alchemist
i had manta, butterfly, pt, and radiance at the end of game =D
absolutely imba lol~
I Like This Character Because Its Strong
inventory:
1) go for BoT
2)go buy purge- helps alot when doing teamwork ;) GANG BANG!
3)battle fury works really well with all illusions and ur dmg is crazy with crits
4)upgrade to Manta now
5)butterfly
6)blade mail with all ur illusions is crazy
with hp regen with battlefury and ur ulti no one can kill u
~~WICKED
Buriza for this hero for crits.
If you are PRO!!!
You WOuld Build up This:
Manta Style (For Extra Clone = Suprim Pusher/Killer)
for 1 on 1 battle:
sudan cımıs akaşıa benzio
anyone,who know what items can kill the illusions easily?
Battle fury, radiance, or couple of blademails
Treads
Satanic
Battle fury
Battle fury
Butterfly
Buriza
2 battle fury? Just make it one. My build 1.BoT 2.Butterfly 3.Mkb or basher 4.Mkb or basher 5.Battlefury 6.Depends . I buy mkb or basher because it has stun effect to prevent the enemy escape by BoT or Townscrool. If there is a blinger, buy guinsoo. Haha. Pawnage!
A balance hero good 4 noobs
i think slithice is the best....very good..good team gamer..if u wanna run wen ur teams not doin well in a 5 on 5 situation...wat a gr8 ulti she has got..
my build for siren is first...2 bracers..then boots...then go directly ffor manta...don go for treads...the sooner u reach the manta...the more farmin u can do easily..just do manta n creep...the next all items get come very soon..then go for butterfly...n then final item is heart...if u wanna make vladimir..its good also...its cheap...
vladimir is cheap n gives all ur meelee aalies...lifesteal aura also...
vladmir's offering + wraith band + power treads + S and Y = godlike
add butterfly if you still have gold
amazing hero...my fav or one of my fav...
1)powertreads
2)manta style
3)vladmirs
4)bloodstone(all images have higher hp and dont die so easily)
5)butterfly
6)if game still going...get any high damage item..monkey king...buriza...cause her base damage is not really that high...
oh sorry on my last comment...get rid of vladmirs...images dont get the lifesteal....so this just shows which is the real naga...get another high damaging item
wow..I get great ideas to your strats men...thnx...
never
use
sange
and
yasha
..
never
Is there anything that can help me get rid of her mirror images with ease? when my apponent increase his life points & armor, I face great problems when fighting this hero.
PLZ help.
Diffusal Blade/Manta Style are stupidly powerful for this character; unbelievably idiotic.
You ppl dont know what you are talking about. Basher + butter. Owning.
only if she was long range
she's good.I like the imagees......
1 of my fav. heroes if playing in public games...
1.PT
2.MAnta style
3.butterfly
4.buriza
5.MKB
6.Bloodstone
buriza fora a hero of natural critical???? better not, there are better items, I tried BKB and it was good for her (the olny messing up is that enemies will know whic of the images u are, but who cares???, at higher levels no matter if u are detected as the true one, wit the itens u spoke of, exeecpt buriza, naga rocks)
http://www.dota-allstars.com/replay/51801/index.html watch and learn the power of naga siren
simple build:
treads
manta
basher(or butterfly)
basher
basher
basher
I think basher is no good coz' slithice already has Ensnare and Song of the Siren then trap your enemy with your images. Better get dmg or survival items..
my fren ever + naga's AGL by 185!!!Walao....how he do it?
Why aren't you guys discussing about Earthshaker . . .he is just too good against Naga siren . . . .just put your ulti when she has all her and manta images . . .she is definitely dead . . .even no need to spam first power . . .
just a quick question. can heroes use blink strike to escape ensnare?
TREADS
MANTA STYLE
BATTLEFURY
BUTTERFLY
MKB
BURIZA!!
Beyond Godlike!!
Holy Shit!!
My build for naga:
Start off with
3 wraith bands
Diffusal blade
boots of speed
Manta Style
eaglehorn
boots of travel
butterfly
optional extra items for lots of spare cash are
linkens sphere
second eaglehorn/lothars edge
The wraith bands you sell as you need space, BoT you can get at whichever point you want if you need the speed or the teleport, sometimtes i don't get it till after butterfly. Gives good as and health to your images.
Butterfly = Fail (increased attack rate means your opponent will notice the real one)
Assault Cuirass = Fail (ditto)
Cranium Basher = Fail (illusions don't get bash, the bashes are FAKE)
HyperStone = Fail (attack speed = fail)
Buriza = Fail (Criticals don't stack? One will cancel the other out)
Mjollnir = Fail as well..it is an orb effect therefore canceling out Manta
I don't agree with butterfly being fail on naga siren. Images only gain damage/attack speed bonuses from stat gains, and butterfly gives 30 agility (30% ias + 30*0.45 dmg). Wraith bands are definately a good choice until and diffusal/manta is obviously a better choice than butterfly but butterfly compliments this hero nicely after such items are already purchased.
Finding the real naga out of the 4 is already stupidly easy, its more of a matter of image damage output IMO.
by the time you have butterfly on my build, she already is in late-very late game, so her being able to tank damage thanks to the miss begins being more useful, and the images are there simply to deal their massive damage thanks to crits, and less because they are a distraction
