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Strategies:The Enigmatic Core of Enigma posted by zequirne on 2008-05-22A Donat's way of Darchrow posted by donatboy on 2007-02-04 |
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Powerful hero killer, farmer and pusher. Fear this hero as the user gives everyone pain until your very doom. Great with Guinsoo's Scythe of Vyse, Dagon 5, Necronomicron, and Aegis of the Immortal.
midnight pulse is useful. use it and then cast the black hole so that the enemy can't escape. if you are quick in mouse and keyboard, ready your Eidolons to attack the enemy when it is casting the black hole. And when you see that the enemy wants to escape and it has low hp after your attack, cast the 1st spell.
I swear to god I've never seen anyone get any kind of streak with this thing. I can see how it could work, but, well, not really.
hes hard to use, ulti is good for farming and hero slayin and is mainly a ranged hero slayer.
a rare used hero
requires skills to use him...if not u will become feeder
A powerfull farm, support hero but average killer (maybe very good against noob for his malefice). Ulti requires skill or you will pull death to you. He's no good at late game.
easy to kill with ulti, very very usefull hero when ganking. You will make them leave if you know how to use him.
. probably one of the best ulti for winning a gank. can double or triple kill.
refresher could be a great help... great immobilizer... blink will do the trick... :D
personally my favorite microing/fun hero to use.
items for someone whos good with micro management:
necronomicon (max out lvl)
refresher
sheepstick
manta
boots of travel
aganims. (extra life and mana, not sure about the ulti though)
strat
1. have a few eidolons with you.
2. stun
3. run up close and midnight pulse
4. sheep
5. manta style!!!!!!!!!
6. necronomicon!!!!!!!!
7. black hole.
8. get your eidolons/2 summons/and your clones to attack your enemy.
I've seen this in action. RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME.. from my brother. Very very unique and fun stat to go on enigma, capable of killing at least 2 heroes depending on how fast you are.
GOOD LUCK!
i dont really concentrate on malefice that much im a fan of conversion and midnight pulse + Black hole although 650 mana is not by any means a small amount and using a necronimicon u can use conversion on the demon guys it summons if ur alone in the woods for a duel
how much damage does the eidolons give?
I truely don't understand how enigma counts as a good guy when you consider his origin, but hell, who am I to complain? He still kills yo ass when he gets the chance.
first hero to use...
how come 2 of his moves are da pictures of other heroes?
black holes a shit move rite?
coz its 140 damage for only 4 seconds which means black hole= 560?
black holes a shit move rite?
coz its 140 damage for only 4 seconds which means black hole= 560?
Sure a 4 second AOE disable is shit.... What kind of games do you play? 1 vs 1?
Hey 4 sec disable ultimate + a stun disable is no shit. It gives LOADS of time for yr teammates to wipe out an entire 5-hero team. Not to mention if u have CM around the duo just deal death everywhere they go. His usefulness to team ganks is so underestimated around here, i find to my dismay.
i randomed this guy and i found out.... I SUCK WITH HIM! i got BoT, Lvl 3 Necro, Dagon, soul booster and soloed mid against abaddon and klinkz.... WTF!? none of my allies came to help me either
hes not a hero killer hes a support hero, so play like one. Dont rush in Black hole is very powerful but once u cast it theres a big target on ur head so use it at the right time. I used him today, Purge/manta is very effective. Radience is also a must (as soon as u get some hp/armor/spell reduc whichever situation calls for).
Lol yeh, radiance, dagon, necro, BoT, guinsoo's and one more of choosing for whatever situation should do it. Conversion> Necro> Midnight Pulse> Black Hole> Malefact> Dagon. Finish, Other hero should be pretty screwed over by now.
Btw
Lvl 1 Eidolon gives about 20dmg
Lvl 4 gives about 50dmg
I don't recommend Dagon because it is a waste of money and very worthless late game, but.. EoS is good, especially when you DON'T buy Dagon so you can get it early/mid game. (depends on how you farm)
Otherwise, alright guide, 7/10.
Course dagon is useless with enigma, its an aoe hero, dont care about killing only one. Play enigma in team ! Just go radiance asap to improve black hole. A dagger may be helpful to run away (enig is really slow) and to cast black hole (melee range).
In an AR game our team ended up with Enigma and Crixalis, who joined up mid. Needless to say every time our ults refreshed we owned something. This is what Enigma is all about.
Black hole is the Goddess of Disables, there is no better disable.
Good heroes to combine with:
Magnataur, CM, Crix, Bradwarden, Sven, Earthshaker, Treant, Techies, Witchdoctor (easiest maledict ever), Leshrac.
AND pretty much anyone else with an AOE, AOE disable, etc.
Worst enemy: Spectre. Disperse once and your channeling is over.
Enigma + Leshrac + Pitlord + Techies
Massive damage in one area.
One Rikimaru to pick off the people who still live through that much damage
@rain9441
Couldn't have agreed more. Black Hole owns. I believe that if you take BKB you should be immune to dispersion.
BkB might also help to run and isnt really expensive but if there is no mercurial in game, i think there is no point in buying one, your mates can help you to prepare black hole.
This hero is a very formidable hero..
Fucking great..
i've reached dominating i think in just level 8 plus two towers destroyed.. and most of my enemies has STR attributes..
This hero is a great farmer...
the ulti only deals 240 at lvl one. even sync'd with midnight pulse and malefice, i would still find that difficult to kill a strength hero, unless they were around half health.
the strategy section for this hero is missing -.-
farmer and a nice killer. excellent with magnataur's reverse polarity ",
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My way to Engma is not learning Conversion
till level 17 coz Enigma nedds the hp to stand
and mana pool + agility to atk.
My build for Enigma:
Mjollnir/Maelstrom Skadi
Radiance Linken's
PowerTreads Guinsoo
Speed and accuracy while casting Midnt
puls and Malefice is way to kill
+ Final Black hole within Aoe of midnit puls makes sure the enemy stays inside.
U will also be shocked at the kills u get by Maelstorm and Radiance combo.
Skadi and Guinsoo once again to keep the enemy slow and disabled within midnit
PS :Beware of Balanar...
If u are a teamplayer Enigma is coolest hero
to go for coz u wud really get kills for the team especially in AoE spells like his.
I once teamed up with Earthshaker and no
player in Scourge cud last against our combo
Real good Timing on spells was our way to victory.....
Lets put it this way! FUCK ME if there is a better hero!!!!!
Guys You are so stupid....He is actually Imba in early and imba in mid game IF they got ranged....Conversion then malefice them then....black hole...i got triple kill with that....I do not ALWAYS use the Pulse...
get lothar's for him
I was whit Squee and Spleen an enigma was on 1 suicide but when i attacked him he did pulse and black hole
good with refresher, cooldown for ulti is long
6/0 in a 20min game,pawned everything :D
this is no match to Dwarven sniper
^__^ just played against dwarven sniper
farmed him with conversion critters attacking him (While pulse is on him), as soon as he tries to run, malefice
BYE KARDEL
works for any low hp-ers in a 1v1 situation.. but a much better team player, especially with SK
my item buid for enigma...:
1.bllodstone( cuz his hp is very small.)
2.Dagon
3.necronomicon
4.aghanim.(to increase his hp and mana.)
5.boots of travel
6.Guinsoo
BOT
Necro
BKB
Blink
Guinsoo
Radiance/Refresher
To kill a hero upon sight, first malefice, activate necro in the mean time, then midnight pulse the hero while he is stunned, and then do your black hold on him. The combined damage of the necro+midnight pulse+black hole will surely kill them. Radiance or a refresher will also help. But you must make sure you have ample mana for 2 ults and a refresher.
i really dont know how to use this hero..
can someone mail me . or pm me. how to use enigma..
Cool Combo With Sandking+rylai or lich +treant :D
bobek bobek bobek!!!!!!!!!
alec booobek!
Ok. Ignore what I said in comment three. Enigma owns all. Beyond Godlike easily. Dagon -> Shiva is lethal...
combo w/ sandking or luna moonfang
use ulti's when making combo
this guy will screw most of the str heroes with his midnight pulse
just make
necro books,blink,agnams,guinsoos
shiva's guard makes this guy a monster
shiva's guard makes this guy a monster
enigma is imba.
godlike every game.
4 By lupeman 2007-01-11
hes hard to use, ulti is good for farming and hero slayin and is mainly a ranged hero slayer.
WTF U NOOB, ulti is good for FARMING ????
200cd, 200 mana cost, 240 dmg, for farming? YOU ARE PLAIN DUMB
does the blackhole do silent now??
6.50b version...
Great, good, heroo... But, I'll use this hero lore often if Black Hole's cooldown decreased until... Lv 1: 120 sec, Lv 2: 100 sec, Lv 3: 80 sec..
enigma is my favorite hero. Period
i think they should reduce the cooldown of black hole, maybe 120seconds would be fine.
dark is my favorite hero and i will destroy everyone on gg using this hero
strong herp gid 2 combine wid:
sand king
akasha
two head dragon
trerant protector
Great combo hero. Best with arcane ring, Necromanicon, and BKB.
nevermore is a good ally for him,
pulse,
black hole
and then requiem of souls!!!
TRIPLE KILL!!!
TRIPLE KILL!!!
TRIPLE KILL!!!
it is very possible you know...
Good farmer and pusher. I still don't know if Conversion can really deny, but I've tried it and I made gaps. As for hero killing, I find it hard to do so if you don't have Radiance and Refresher. I'm going to make a guide about this dude, don't really know what to put.
BTW,
Enigma's ulti, Black Hole, would be imba if it did a lot of damage. Black Hole was meant to stun,disable and finish off, it wasn't meant for instant kills. And Enigma was meant for team battles, people who go beyond with this on solo games are either too good or too lucky because their enemies are noobs.
hayzz this char is noob...
1st ms is too slow
2nd skills are boring..
3rd is everyone who use this character that can kill 2 or 3 is ur noobbzzz...
why?
coz ur foe when ur using this char is a noobz....got it??
by the way ur weak!!!
hayzzzz....boring....... "HAIL kingmicko"
Just theorycrafting here, but would theis combo work?
Midnight Pulse
*If they run use black hole
Refresh
Midnight Pulse
*If they run use black hole
The pulses (If you kept them in their AoE) should bring them down to 2%, which should be taken care of by attacks and/or the black hole damage.
yea dude people do that all the time
and its good 2
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radiance
boots
necro
refresher
guinsoo if u like
thats all you need...
enigma? ohw a tough hero i don't really like this hero thnx for strategies folks!
i will practice using your strats!
a very good hero....
i think this is the ulti i the best channeling skil...
My build:
BoT
Dagon
MKB
Buriza
Lothar's Edge
Linkens/anything u want
People talk about permabash. With enigma you have Permadable (yep, I coined it).
Guinsoo
Refresher orb
radiance
If u see a hero 1 on 1 late game.
Malefice Pulse ult. not dead? not a problem.sheep it and attack/ malefice. Use rf orb: ult again. Malefice. (sheep again)Any hero is dead. ANY. esp if u have radiance
a good strat for this guy is.
summon 6 eidolons
Necronomicon - 2 necros to attack
Manta - 2 clones to attack
once u have ur decay and ult up u can have 10 people attacking a target
Necro is pretty neat on this guy, but not really manta. He never needed the clones. The eidolons are always enough, added to necro's summons. Necro's aura helps you and your team too.
Necronomicon on this hero is a really good counter to heroes like SA, Gondar, Clinkz. When they pop out hit them with malefice, use necro book, use pulse, and rail away. You can also choose to use your ulti to suck them in for a sure finish but I try to usually save that for multi hero fights.
good hero,my favourite
my build:
PT
Lothar/blink (base on situation)
radiance
refresher,skadi and up to you
eidolons+blink+midninght+black hole&eidolons attack+malefice=BYE...
HES GODLIKE. I have been playing enigma for a while lately because hes never used so most people don't know how to counter him. FOR YOUR INFORMATION THIS GUY IS GOD LIKE LATE GAME. A FOUR SECOND CHRONOSPHERE LIKE THING where allies can still attack. And a spell that takes out 40% of your hp if you stay in the midnight pulse for too long. Not too mention his first spell needs no explanation. Get skadi on him. Then midnight pulse and attack/malefice to slow/stun and can kill without black hole.
HAHA
MY FAVOURITE HERO IN DOTA..
ENIGMA!!!!
in early game u should buy dagger as fast as u can...
for me,I will buy 5branc and tango at 1 more slot,and keep farm untilu get dagger...
once u got dagger,its easy to use the ulti...if u ulti all 5 hero,corectly,no hero can disable u...huhu....the GODLY ultimate in all hero...
midnight pulse+Black hole+radiance=HOlY dmg...
even 3k hp hero also can die easyly..
by the way,with this hero,i make many triple kil..
If u know him,U will like him
This guy owns
i havnt seen Enigma played in a long time unfortunately
the best team support/ganker in dota histroy.. period.
