Aggron Stonebreaker - The Ogre Magi

plus : -INT heroes
-AGI heroes
minus : -STR heroes
-magina
suggest item : 1. power treads
2. Aghanim`s Scepter
3. refresher orb
4. Guinsoo`s
5. Aegis of the Immortal
6. Heart of tarrasque
in team : stunner (support)

eeeeeee, what do you need refresher orb, for?

for quick and deadly spell.
fireblast damage :
275*5 (because scepter) = 1375*2 (because refresher) = 2750
ignite damage :
40*7.5 = 300*2 = 600
total damage = 3350 damage!!!!
30% is very high chance.
the calculation not include your attack damage.
this only cost :
135 + 155 + 275 = 565 mana
after you did it, you still have enough mana to do FB & IG combo again.

OK, I get it!

negative on refresher orb...good yes, but maybe linkinsphere better?

refresher orb for refreshing his ulti?? His ulti is passive, think first before you post.

read it again chief, no where does it say anything about his ulti, its for refreshing fireblast which is stupid anyways..

does 2 aghanims improve the ulti of ogre magi? pls post some stragies

terkla,
no scepters do not stack

wat suld he buy?

i use him and own games. start game item 2 nulls, 1 boots and 1 ring. dun straight away buy mystic stuff. coz its too expensive. after those items mention above, try to do dagon first. very good at killing. treat this hero as a mid end game hero. not all intel heroes muz be start game heroes. after dagon den soul booster. y soul but not mystic staff is becoz after u haf done so many tings, it shld be around mid end game. oppo damage will be high. i rmb dat time end game when naix want to kill me without bkb, i multicast him and dagon. he had to go back base and rest first.. wahaha

hmm i never used this hero before...i wanna try him out. So its Power Treads, Dagon, Scepter, Guinsoo , Aegis??

Hatebreed Dagon too expensive for him. Better go: Ring of Basilius, Scepter, guinsoo, BoT, Hearth of Tarras
(get scepter as fast as you can, because, it gives Ogre IMBA boost, and im SAYING IMBA!!!! You can basically 1 shot lowerhp heroes., with 30% doing 1200+ damage!)

multi cast? the mana must be drainin then, ud definity need a 100% mana regeneration item

Thanks Baraek

how in , the creator of dota's name. to i kill this hero? please help me an yes i am a noob seeking the professionals. i am getting ust to sniper so please help me in terms of using sniper

Tanker + Nuker = Orge Magi. Nearly unbeatable in late game.

nice uh...!

a strength build inteligent hero??
surely, this is one of the heros that have so0o musch hp!

two heads are better than one... aghanims and meka... :D

Hey Zex Think A Lot before you post
Refresher WTF ! FireBlast Does Have A Chance of CASTING MULTI CAST you know.

. which idiot suggested refresher, the longest time that u need to wait for any skill is bloodlust and its not that good unless u cast it on someone like abaddon, nightstalker, heroes with natural increased attack and movement speed or tiny.

I saw a very unique melee build for OM, aside from your original caster build

Items:
Sange and Yasha
Basher's (2)
Guinsoo's
boots of travel
mkb
empty slot...

So this om went bashers and sny for the melee om build. He would run after you, ignite you, bloodlust himself catch up, stun sheep and start hitting you.. and the speed was pretty dam fast. Works ok if you can farm that well.

ignite have a % for multicast too ?

Yes ignite does have a % for multicast.

IGNITE DOES NOT HAVE % TO MULTICAST YOU DUMB

two headed are better than one

Level 3 - Fire Blast: Cooldown reduced to 6 seconds, 20% chance to Quaruple cast Fire Blast (30% to cast 5 times if Scepter is equipped), mana cost further increased by 30 Bloodlust: Cooldown reduced to 10 seconds, 20% chance to Triple cast Bloodlust (30% to Quadruple cast Bloodlust clearly sez that it can between the smileys, i dont get how that works though and ive never actually seen it work b4, i only cast it when im tryin to flee for my life or ask to. i hate him at early game though, hes too hard to level if ur playin against pros cos they will harass the crap out of u.

I love this hero, plays very fluid with Scepter, BoT, Guinsoos, Linkens or HoD + optional Dagon or Vanguard (at start before Perseverance). You can get some nulls at the beginning for more manapool too.

Best experience I made was taking a solo lane with 2 (!) enemies, playing defensively (casting FB when enemy hero stands in tower range) and saving enough mana for an escape... By the time the enemies CAN destroy the tower you are actually 3-4 levels higher and with your ultimate on lvl2 can get some lucky kills.

In mid and lategame this hero simply owns, if played right. High HP and manapool, can also escape easily (bout 442 ms with BoT and bloodlust activated) and stun/slow enemies who might chase him.

*THUMBSUP*

best hero w/ aghamisn

An intelligent-melee hero. He has nice skills that wants a DotA hero wants to. He has Fireblast(STUN), Ignite(SLOW), Bloodlust(FRENZY) & Multicast(Free Refresher Orb).

Nicest hero with Aghanim's Scepter.

i always play this hero.
but why i always cant get multicast.

Luck? or about my item?

Aghanim's ASAP.
REFRESHER ORB!?!? = IDIOT!!
Lvl16 with Sceptre gives it a 6 second cooldown. And theres no guarantee of two Multicasts anyway. Stun, ignite, follow (Bloodlust), stun again. Continue. DUH?

agree refresher is for int heroes but this one is more like str. also in the late game u cant rely on multicast it stupid when all have 2-3(even-4)k hp u cnat kill anyone. i use:

1.Pt
2.hex
3.Aghanims
4.Buriza
5.vladimirs
6. I never have 6 item its all over so i dont need but if u really want then Aos is good

For Aggrron:
Power Treads
Scepter
Guinsoo
Dagon (upgrade)
2 Bashers

ROFL!@!@!@

im really terribly sorry refresher is a non no.......... u should be able to keep up with your enemy......
Get dagon....... stun dagon.... burn.... blood lust..... duh no need for refresher.... ageims is a have to
but neve think u can kill 3 people with ignite ive done it but it was so lucky...... THEY ALL HAD 100 OR LESS.BUNDELED TO KILL ME CAME OUT STUN AND BURNED THEM ALL MWUAHAHAHAH!@! lol try i sometime..

not imba.
bad melee fighter

Wow r u serious if u want a the best build u get these
1. BoT
2.Aghanims scepter
3.Guinsoo's
4.Linkens Sphere
5.Dagon 5
6.Eye of Skadi (trust me)

Costy build up there, since its late game, i would just by an assault cuirass. works well with bloodlust. or a mekansm since its do or die time.

I haven't seen the potential of this hero in your comments.. but look at his stats and fill in the missing parts.. he's a WELL KILLING hero.. a support type and a pusher type in one kind of build item..

saves money and time.. can finish game in 30 minutes with this guy on a 3 on 3 matches..

multi-cast never works for me when i need it

When he multicast someone withm low hp,he is dead.

COMBOS
1. TRAVEL
2. AGHANIM
3. GINSU
4. BLOODSTONE
5. HEART
6. SKADI

HE IS A SUPPORTING HERO
AND CAN BE A GOOD TANKER
U PLAY WITH THIS HERO IN 5 ON 5
THE OTHER HEROS SHOULD BE
1. SWAPPER
2. ANTIMAGE
3. KEEPER OF LIGHT
4. NAGA / SVEN
IN ACTUAL FIGHT ONLY BLODLUST MAKE THE DIFFERNCE.
BECAUSE BOLT OR GINSU CAN BE USED ONLY ONCE IN THE TIME BEING
SO JUST GO FOR SUPPORT

This page needs 2 be updated ogres damage is 58-74. his STR gain is 3.2

For Aggron: (dono whether correct) jus my item build for this hero!!!

Power Treads
Dagon
Scepter
Radiance
Eye Of Skadi
Guinsoo

Oops i mean 58-64

Aggron is a great hero... he can kill, support and push... just make sure to ifnite th creepes and fireblast the enemy...

i usually use him with:

travels
aghanim
guinsoo
radiance( plus ignite arm and chases with ignite is priceless also give me a big boost of dmg for my battle ogre)
cuirass
buriza

stuner/disabler/nucker/slower/support/tank/farmer/dpser/killeR!
a perfect hero

I got 33 kills in a 4 on 4 with Ogre Magi. He can dominate!

this heroes too n00b i think sometimes. one arcane ring, boots of travel, one satanic/heart and ur good to go.

For Aggron, i will go for a power treads, Dagon, Scepter, Guinsoo, Eye Of Skadi and a Radiance. Orge Magi is a very good nuker! In a good hands, its unstoppable!!!

Treads
Dagon
Aghanim
Vladimir's offering
bloodstone

I just hate to fight this guy. BUT I KICKT HIS JIANT OGER BUTT WHIT YOURNERO

I just hate to fight this guy. BUT I KICKT HIS JAINT OGER BUTT WHIT YOURNERO

i died against him:)

i think he's not a good hero for beginners.. Only those who have much experience can make him a strong hero..

cool multicast suc esfully cast one multicast to meepo, 1 hit shot

this hero is the best melee hero in the game to harras and counter bradwarden! hehehe... i've tried it, and centaur always runs back to the fountain for life regen. this hero is a kick ass!

sorry, wrong spelling. supposed to be harass.

so fireblast multicast with aghanim is 275 x 5 = 1375 damage??

One of the best heroes in the game. First time i ever played him, i wrecked outright, freakin 12-0. Ogre Magi= the man

someone should write a strategy. he's a good lumberer

Hehe this hero 0wns
I have only played dota like 5 times, and the best i have got ever was a killing spree (with slayer), but when I tried Ogre magi I got a Godlike

holy shit multicast is rigged! I triple multicast, so lucky he can be damn scary...

this hero is a killer... if you use a aghanims with him... multicast can be more chance... what the fuck...

Last time I check this ia an str. ttype

Omfg, some of you people making stupid posts about STR capabilities and refresher orbs.. the fact is to:

Rush ARCANE RING

*Buy Treads

*Buy INT based items which also add to other stats (Nulls & Bracers)

* Build immediatly 4 Sceptre

* You now have your Arcane Ring so.. no need for a mana regen. Focus on your hp
regen, armour, or Hex.

*HoD gd for hp regen

*Blademail gr8! for armour and return damage

* Guinisoo gd 4 Hex / Silence


Or if damage is what you like:

level Dagoons ftw.

its hard

nobody tried orchid malevolence? tis good for him for the extra mana regend and fast attack speed. and when u silence the enemy and multicast procs, GG.

Omg...
Just get scepter and u will pwn...
Fireblast dmg like...a lot!!
6 SAC COOLDOWN!!!!



he got everything..slow opponent make himself or allies faster, heavy dmg+stunn with an EXTREAMLY low CD.

so how exactly does the multicast bloodlust works ive never used this hero before

@blank_blank
orchid is pointless. if you want regen, go pers. i find that your money is much better spent on an aghanims

my build is a few nulls early, then get perserv, then get soul booster, then finish aghanims, and maybe blink if you feel cocky. i find it difficult to manage BoT, unless i'm lucky as hell, because i'm dropping (875 + 900 + 1000 + 1100 + 1200 + 2700 + 2200 (BoT) + whatever i drop on nulls and BoS)
he can get very pricey very fast. so you have to prioritize, i go pers, aghanims, BoT, then w/e.

One of the best heroes in the game, period.
High health, stun, slow, high movement, insane nuke.

If you want to counter him, pick Pudge or Omniknight. Magina and Balanar works too if you can keep up with him getting Aghanim's.
Avoid most agi/int heroes as they get more or less raped by Multicast. Also, don't pick a hero without constant slows as Ogre Magi outruns most of them.

oh man 5 times multicast fireblast : 5*275=1375 dmg at the cost of 100mana only !

Ownage

ztrapon...
Ogre pwns pudge.
Pudge hooks into bush, rots then bites.
Wait for pudges hp to go down then fire ball if u multi pudge = dead

1.Boots of speed
2.Preserverance
3.Arcane ring
4.Soulbooster
5.Eul
6.Scepter
7.BoT

if change to STR hero, perfect

very difficult to use. but i reached godlike when I finally knew how to use him effectively. My item build was:
Power Treads
Aghanim's Sceptre
Vladmir's Offering
Battle Fury
Guinsoo's Scythe
Assault Cuirass

I think Manta Style and Orchid Malevolence would be of great use also

does 2 scepters increase the chance of multicast?

Personally when I gear an ogre magi I first aim for a perserverence because his mana regen is terrible, and then later split it up to eul's and vanguard. His move speed is horendous and I put off buying boots of speed for as long as possible, but buy it somewhere in there (its at your discretion) and then if we haven't won already, I start to go after aghanim's. Its not really necessary if you play smart and avoid death well. I start w/ a stout shield then either a sobi mask or clarity potions.

is ogre magi can beat magina???
i always hate magina....
because i always use int hero...
please tell me,,,
how to kill magina with fast with this hero...
thx

build arcane ring first so u can spam ur skills 2 ur enemies den build a aghanims scepter 4 da multicast and then build a dagon 4 more damage of your combo

Arcane ring + scepter + boots of travel.

it would be funny if u could multicast items. Multicast Dagon lvl 5 = 3200 dmg O.o

Aggron relies to much on chance to dominate, only wen multicast happens then u got a chance of killin the other guy

Aggron relies to much on chance to dominate, only wen multicast happens then u got a chance of killin the other guy

I usually head for Perseverance, then complete the Bloodstone while I save up for Aghanim's.

Bloodstone is great once you get a few kills for the regen afterwards and when you split it up for Scepter you can use the Perseverance for either Linken's (for defence if you're under fire a lot) or Battlefury (for even better farming for that next Scepter!).

my items:

BoT
Radiance
Guinsoo
Cuirass
Scepter
Vladmir's

the best not expensive item

I usually go boots of speed and some tangos first.
skill fireblast first and max it, followed by ignite.
save your mana and dont use fireblast until you got it on level 2 at least. besides the fact that dmg is higher then, this will surprise your enemy.
next thing to buy then is energy booster, complete arcane ring then.
after that i usually make power treads and start to build soulbooster for aghanim's scpeter.
if you aren't pwning yet, get dagon.

i know this is an offensive build, so be care

BoT
Arcane ring
EoS
MKB
MKB

This heroe its a RULE BREAKER !
The all powerfull god of dota one time said...
STG heroes will own dota... but not forefer !
AGI heroes will suffer times to time... but will have they place in future
INT heroes will be lucky ones in begin but will soon be vanquished !!!

But not OGRE MAGI... this nigga can owns every heroe including Tiny and Pudge

Well i love play whit him and hate play against him cose i know i will lose ...
Cheers!

Anyway...
I thing perfect to him its septer DAHHH
and Refresh... YEAH WHY NOT... IGNITE the Stun, refresh, Stun and HIT HIT HIT HIT so if hero still alive you use ignite again... SIMPLE AND CRITICAL !!! no error strategy... if you dont end game too early whit him caution whit critical heroes... so then you just put 2 tarrask on him and a Assault Bulletproof... should be enough...

this hero is hella funny... i was playing the other day then suddenly i pick him on -sd hahaha venomancer and nerub weaver can do nothing

i have arcane and aghanims...

my question is what build should u do
if ur opponent counters u like they put a couple of HoD or BkB? any1?

this hero is hella funny... i was playing the other day then suddenly i pick him on -sd hahaha venomancer and nerub weaver can do nothing

i have arcane and aghanims...

my question is what build should u do
if ur opponent counters u like they put a couple of HoD or BkB? any1?

this hero is hella funny... i was playing the other day then suddenly i pick him on -sd hahaha venomancer and nerub weaver can do nothing

i have arcane and aghanims...

my question is what build should u do
if ur opponent counters u like they put a couple of HoD or BkB? any1?

this hero is hella funny... i was playing the other day then suddenly i pick him on -sd hahaha venomancer and nerub weaver can do nothing

i have arcane and aghanims...

my question is what build should u do
if ur opponent counters u like they put a couple of HoD or BkB? any1?

Anyway, this hero is all about luck!!! If I'm the user, I rather pump him attack damage instead of putting hope in his ulti. If u r unlucky, u wouldn't able to cast ur ulti.

this hero is strong...but i dont know what its item build are....hehe

can sumone tell me which skill should i level up first??Plz

Bloodlust because it's good for gaining money at early.

I lvl up 1st and 2nd skill early, cause after the stun, when the enemy is just about to escape on low hp I cast 2nd and I pretty much use it as battle hunger - I mean if I see that he's getting away on 100hp and I can't catch him I cast 2nd skill and it finishes him off

Cranium_basher, u do sure cant wait to kill a hero, u also can kill them when u only have bloodlust and ignite. It's easy. Kill their creep and deny deny.. When all of his creep died, cast ignite on him, let ur creep to harass him until his next wave of creep come. He should have about half of his full hp now. Cast ignite on him and bloodlust. Sure kill 1st blood!

suggest item : 1. power treads
2. Aghanim`s Scepter
3. refresher orb
4. Guinsoo`s
5. Aegis of the Immortal
6. Heart of tarrasque
THE BUILD UL NEVER EVER WILL GET lol

unless u play noob em that is...

I really like Aggron... I can kill any hero using him.

why the heck would u need refresher orb on ogre magi?

@ comment #3

Sure I do understand what you think with the refrsher orb, but you can buy something else for the cash which is much better, IMO that is.

ogre magi dosnt need teh refresher orb

lol...spirit bear...i wanna see u take down doom bringer in one on one...

i will try this hero...

pretty badass hero here is wat id go

1.Arcane Ring
2.Soulbooster to scepter
3.BloodStone
4.Get a HOT if this game is still GOing

treads, aggys, vlads, BFury, gusinoo, HoT. Thats the way ogre should be played. He is a melee beast, and when bloodlusted and bfury, you can tear through creeps. You need its mana regen anyways because you want to be casting as much fb/ig as possible. He's a battlecaster, and if youre smart, you will twack 400 damage or so in between trying for a huge multicast. Gusinoos is great - someone on your team should have a disable. If you have a good lion or rhasta etc, you can get something else.

M3no y would u get a buriza? and refresher and bashers are a no no since this hero doesnt attack that quick maybe wit blood lust but still

3.2 str gain per lvl on a int hero...still looks a bit weird to me

Yea well u gotta understand that hes an ogre so it seems more ideal for him to have alot of hp. Hell, i like to get him a HoT at the begginning of the game. Because im the type of player that likes to play it out with these heroes and get items for them that they seem like they would have.

i hate this guy he keeps killing me D:

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!! Ya his ult is gay as hell man especially with that stun....But hey, Lion is the same way man I dread having to go against a Lion as good as I am with him cuz i harass like hell to the point where they talk shit to me the entire game .....I dont look for trouble i just try to play well, and win of course.

This is my build

null talisman ( good for early stats)
power treads (speed and dmg)
aghanims scepter (multicast RAPE)
orchid malevolence(200 xtra dmg(fb multi))
guinsoo (hex so they cant run away)
HoT ( makes you a uber tank)

and if you can, sell the null talisman and get aegis OR bloodstone.