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Strategies:Troll Warlord Aspd Ownage posted by jake-the-mus on 2006-12-21 |
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Limit your discussions to Jah’rakal - The Troll Warlord.
Off-topic comments will be deleted.
holy shiz, this guys rampage is insane, 120% attack speed, with no manner cost,
THATS equal to an EXPENSIVE skill or like buying hyperstone , WAIT hyperstone to this guy will be 170% and treads will be about 50% movement some one use this guy and write a guide :p
Drew just forgot to put the cooldown and manacost
@tdevil: Thanks despite the sarcasm.
@yukino: Updated the skills
..... i think this hero will be god like with this 2 items 1 hyperstone and 2or3 bashers ..... your enemy cannot move with this items..... when using the skill rampage
guys. try maelstrom,treads, midas, quarterstaff on this guy. this is really cool. if you want to kill. lothars will do. switch to melee first, then lothars to you enemy, after the first hit, rampage. he'll never know what hit him.
fastest atk speed in DoTA!Equip this hero wtih 2 cranium basher and maelstrom is a must (don't forget hyperstone)
I use S&Y, Hyperstone, 2 Bashers, Treads, and MKB.. unstoppable.
NightStalker's ulti combo is like this ones ulti combo.
Nightstalker has nothing on troll.. troll can kill pretty much any hero 1v1. Actually changed my setup a bit today. Went treads, sny, 2 bashers, mkb, and butterfly and was destroying.
MJOLLNIR!!! The BEST item!!!
just get a couple hyperstones and bashers and with rampage u will be unstoppable
this hero i must say is my fave..
try using diffrnt builds dpending on ur game style.
you can either use a maelstorm with buriza for range and massive pushing ability..
meelee
try using 2 bashers and the 1st skill and ur on ur way to GODLIKE mode.
or try adding a maelstorm to the 2 bashers it does work and its cool.. chek it for urself..
other items are up to u, just explore the abilities of this hero.
enjoy
betcha nightstalker could kill this hero, nightstalker would need a refresher to cast ulti again to get perma ms and attack speed
OH how struggle this hero vs night stalker!!!!! night is useless if you're in a permastun skill
, no one can stop this from being beyond godlike!!
I disagree lupe...Nightstalker will die at troll's feet when he is perma stunned
even if you crippling fear him before attacking, his bashes are passive...so you might still get bashed.
correction: after he activate berseker's rage u will still get bashed . sorry bout earlier comment
Best for Troll:
1.Power treads
2.Mjollnir
3.2x Cranium basher
2 bashers?? Permabash?? Lol, instead of bashers, get hyperstone and Buriz... Much better
one of the perma stunner... ownage..
I will get PT ,a deso and a buriza.
my item for this hero is PT 3xbashers mjollnir vladimir even balanar wont have a chance but when balanar cast cripling fear at night even im in rampage i will be killed but it will make balanar "maga" or "pulado" because of the mjollnir
void, centaur, pa, pl, nerub... already 5 people i named. Tinker can own him too with his perma sheep.
u can either go bashers and life leech or bashers and crit, or crit and life leech on this guy.
Vladimir, Buriza, SnY, 2Cramium Bashers & Power treads...
Got me 40 kills in 48mins
Skill? Guerilla-style attack!!
They'll never know whats coming to them!
i tried tread, dagger, heart, 3 burize.
blink in and start going crazy.... u can get 3-4 heroes in a fight.
try get some crystalist first at the beginning since they're cheap. then farm ur dagger. ;)
sorry 2 say this boyz but your guides lack...imagination...u are so static with basher buterfly buriza an the rest AND u dont think creative.my core item 4 troll BESIDES bashers isnt desolator,isnt sny IS mjlonir...with 120% increase atack speed u will have a large chance to atack in chain lightings...u should try it
Are there any heros with a higher atk spd than Jah’rakal? (taking ulti into consideration)
@ jomonoe
i dont think there is a hero with a faster attack speed then jah'rakal.
Magina could beat him... If he used his ulti, then blink away! Then if the ulti tym is done. Blink beside him and KILL!!! btw you should have good items first...
magina definately cannot beat him 1v1. all trol does is blind+desolator/2 bashers then gg
Who thinks that Jah'rakal should have a sound efect for his melee attacks?
Damn i love this guy with hyperstone & divine Rapier Plus RAMPAGE he's invincible !!!!
rhatsa will own him he cant move
It's very fast, I like it
Oh, I forgot. I have kill Roshan with this hero(Level 23) with Buriza, Hyperstone, Power Thread, Sange and Yasha, and Cranium Basher!
ya!jharakal without rampage is a shit,he is good with beserker rage,with a difference of 10-15 damage.but how 2 switch it in a quick game.any one suggest me.im new
the hotkey is "G" so just keep a finger on tht, go atk a hero who is by themselves BAM BAM BAM then when they run press "G" and watch them fall
I can pwn this guy using Panda or Sandking
Just try bradwarden, add some blade mail or two....
and Jahrakal will not seems that scary at all
@aku_rian
if you try Naix, with the same item ....
it's not neccessary to wait until level 23 pal
bone klinkz will own against this hero, both with decent builds. blink will screw up klinkz though, but with strafe activated, the damage dealt would be the same as a regular attack
blind**
@lupeman
Clinkz is no-match against troll i say... Clinkz will never move when he's already bashed... This guy could pretty much own any guy...
Clinkz aganist a perma basher is kinda hard to call. the only way to see it to actually do the battle. Go go go! Also, I think that Leoric with a pair of bashers would take down the troll. Stunned before the attacking started. >:)
i think his nice.........
specially when he have deso on his inventory!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lets just say that its very evenly matched between klinkz and troll. cos all rangers hav an advantage plus klinkz is godlike
at level 25 with fair amount of items ive pwnd magina, ursa, faceless void and balanar on 1on1 games with jahrakal. centaur is nothing. if he wears two blade mails, just dont activate melee. its still almost permabash. my items at level 25 is treads, lothars, 2 bashers, cuirass and if its a really long game, mjollnir or satanic or tarrasque depending on the situation. lothars is a must for hero killing and escaping and adds decent damage ang aspd. troll has slow movespeed and can be seen a mile away, easy escape for most enemies and is easily trapped as well. my problem with troll, he's basically useless until he gets lothars and a basher.
btw, ive not faced clinkz 1on1 so i cant comment who pwns who.
u can get easily ganked w/ this guy but revenge is yours come late-game MWAHAHAHAHAHA!!
BLIND YOUR ENEMY.. Berserker Rage + Rampage = X_X
This guy is cool cause if u pickup bashers i melee mode then switch 2 ranged it glitches and u still have 15% bash... works same with a skadi
so whats a rly good permabash build for this hero (in order)? i like this hero but im horible wid him
dude..this guy is my main and hes like awesome haahha
for all you people whow ant to use him
your gna have a sH*t load of fun
Ultimate permabash build in order is: treads, vlad's, basher, basher, butterfly, satanic. Now there will be people saying YOU CAN'T GET THAT MUCH MONEY! But the truth is, as long as I don't get pawned a couple times early, I regularly get this build, completing the satanic maybe half the time before the game finishes. You will be able to take on two at a time easy. If they have stunners, then get a BKB after the bashers before the butterfly.
Oh and for the noobs that build only works when you turn on berserker rage. Good luck!
Ahmm, get Kelens for backstabbing and escaping... Definitely, a must have for troll...
blind should be the first skill u get then fervor for early game. rampage and berserkers rage is a mid/late game skill for hero killin. (does blind effect skills of enemy heroes as well? with miss chance?)
I'm a big fan of lothars instead of the dagger.WW gives you the ability to close on people before they even know you're there, very useful for lone casters and the like, while also giving you [admittedly miniscule] extra damage.
The mana cost can be problematic, however..
But it would be easily countered by a gem... Nothing can counter blink that's why I prefer Kelen's
u can use blink daggers if ur binded as well, not faceless voids ulti, but like furion and treant. lothars does give movement speed, invis and more damage though~
While lothars can easily be countered by a gem, gems can often be temporary AND it would be an unusual game indeed for someone to specifically waste an item slot countering warlord's invis :)
Butterfly would be great on him. 2 bashers since 3 dont stack asault / hyperstone is good and MoM and hes better off with treads. a strategy i used oce it got me a dominating streak was use MoM and Fervor as a ranged character they turn to run and ur attking so fast ur bound to stun him so when u do use blink dagger, turn melee and take him out. it worked fine till thy caught on to my strategy =(.
have a question guys... what if i put lifesteal items on him is it good items for him???????
really im just that noob.................................
mannnn...thiz hero is wicked..UNSTOPPABLE! ! !
1 Cranium basher is all you need for permabash. With naturally high ASPD and berserkers rage activated, you will gain a 32.5% of a bash each strike (he does about two strikes per second), with ulti activated (he will do like five strikes per second) you need to be incredibly unlucky not to be able to bash.
This the item i used to build for this hero:
1)power tread
2)basher
3)basher
4)butterfly
5)heart
6)anything
Is my item build good or not? I need some comments. Thx
And a buriza
My items satanic 1 basher butterfly assult and critical strike>I have the cash for this build! OMG. Its toatl own. Troll is too fast and too strong. Think its really shit cause if you dont play with pros he owns too much and if he gets feeded, but troll with my build and I think in almost any build can be killed by int heroes mostly, if int is played well. But in 1 vs 1 you most get a lothar and you will win..
@ iceshock
lifesteal works fine. its a good build and increases his survivability
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For xxxxxxxx: nice build ^^. Only thing u should change in my opinion is buy helm of dominator in early game and later (your 6) item) buy satanic instead of HOT. buriza is good for 5) item. With ulti he strikes about 3 times per sec so 1 basher wouldn't be enough for clear stunlock.
Hey guys your comment is ??????????????????????????????????
If you want to fight with me just Add me foodforthought if you have a GG
I prefer critical to stun for warlord
My items go like:
P.Treads,Burizado,
SnY,Battlefury,
Butterfly,Manta.
Strategy is that first I use Blind;
then Manta style in Ranged form and
then go Melee form and unleash the ultimate.
If enemy escapes stun ur images go all critical ranged ;also u can go ranged at
time of ur enemy's fleeing...
TRY THIS OUT!!!
Favorite one.
Close in,blind,rampage in melee mode..
Basically,with vladimir and basher..The rest is up to yoru style..To make it quick add some cri to it,to have some fun against int heroes just buy a MKB..
etc..etc..etc..
Born to own..Smells like godlike spirit..
this is a easy kill for night stalker at nite with his fear spell it causes 40% miss on attacks and he can spam his void
c'mon people.. all your build stinks! mine can pawn any of your heroes late game..
treads
satanic
butterfly
radiance
mkb
buriza
p.s. you don't need 2 bashers for this hero.. c'mon you need to grow up..
Troll warlord Kicks ass!!my technique is;
lvl 1 fervor
2 attribute
3 fervor
4 attribute
5 change weapons
the most cool thing about troll warlord is that the change weapons has no mana cost!!it even improves your ms,as,hp,base damage and armor!
and the new bonus if the change weapons are lvl 4 even faster ms, he got a 390 ms with a boots of speed!!1
Troll warlord Kicks ass!!my technique is;
lvl 1 fervor
2 attribute
3 fervor
4 attribute
5 change weapons
the most cool thing about troll warlord is that the change weapons has no mana cost!!it even improves your ms,as,hp,base damage and armor!
and the new bonus if the change weapons are lvl 4 even faster ms, he got a 390 ms with a boots of speed!!1
nedscheebly why buriza? you suck!
troll warlord sucks with buriza its better of with a manta
this is my idea;
manta
mjollnir or satanic
mjollnir or mask of madness
assault cuirass
pow treads
basher
try playing dota with 6.43b ai+ 1.14
and put HE and HG to the game mode,it trains ya
For Jah'rakal:
Power Treads
The Butterfly
Buriza
Sange And Yasha
2 Bashers
Can someone pls tell me what does AoE stand for?
buriza, 2 cranium or 1, helm of dom (or satanic, depends who loies it), (any other percentage type items), speed items... this guy would never get hurt.
buriza, 2 cranium or 1, helm of dom (or satanic, depends who loies it), (any other percentage type items), speed items... this guy would never get hurt.
One word: Scary
AoE stands for Area of Effect. For instance, when you use an AoE effect spell when you click the spell button you will be presented with a big symbol that you can move on your screen. When the spell is casted, the enemys in that circle AREA will be affected, once or over time depending upon the spell.
cmon people don't be to hard on this hero. Every hero in has it's own weakness. Anyway has anyone tried 2 bashers a manta and a blink dagger w/ this one. Blink at the back of the enemy then activate manta. your enemy will have a hard time guessing whose the real troll. you don't have to activate rampage since there are 3 of you striking the enemy.
Ha. Can own this hero with Lycanthrope on any given day(of course with some fair item build). 2 woves each with bash and give Lycanthrope a basher and this guy is done although blind makes it difficult i always get butterfly late game for evasion.
bashers and manta? aber LOL.
his illusions wont do any real bash, at most only prolong a real(if the real troll luckily bashes first)
Boots of Travel + hyperstone + lvl 3 rampage=GODLIKE
jah'rakal is the shiz man uhh just 2 bashers and 1 buriza den rampage say bye bye to ur opponent as his life drops to max to nofin
oo and 1 or 2 hyper stones or treads and GODLIKE mode fur him
so who can actually take on troll in 1 on 1 situation straight up?
so who can actually take on troll in 1 on 1 situation straight up?
so who can actually take on troll in 1 on 1 situation straight up?
who is much better this hero or n'aix????????????
When I used this hero with 2 bashers a MKB and a lvl4 berserkers rage my opponent didn't had a chance to move because of all the stunning combined with rampage
I LOVE Blind
Best combination:
1)treads
2)butterfly
3)basher
4)basher
5)Monkey King Bar
6)Monkey King Bar
I think only Void can beat the trol
He is god!!!
2 basher
butterfly
treads
MoM
buriza
HE is gay!!!!!
yes you guys, but the thing is, this guys BLOWS if he cannot farm and level
which is extremely easy to prevent
for me - assault, buriza, vladmir, butterfly and thread are enough to own!
fervor/blind/fervor/blind/fervor/berserk/fervor/berserk/etc...
The best way to keep farming safely.
SPAM BLIND, throw one axe, back up, get last hits/denies and repeat. Your opponent MUST BE ALWAYS blind if you really want to get those 2 bashers.
This is proved.
Late game is easy 1vs1 and with only PT and 2 bashers you can own almost all heroes. For 2vs1 you'll definitely need satanic.
That's it : PT, 2 bashers, satanic.
Still, you'll have to rely on your team skills at DotA to win a game.
Ah yes, I forgot, the dagger is just a need. Lothars effect on ms is too weak.
All of the above is a good build as many builds posted on this website are pretty much expensive (way too much imo) and can work with almost any hero (cmon : battlefury/butterfly/buriza/manta HOW are you supposed to get all that
Do u guys know this guy's weakness?
For Jah'rakal:
Power Treads
Sange and Yasha
The Butterfly
Monkey King Bar
Buriza
Assult
you need a disabler to beat him.
Guinsoo and it's done, especially if you have a pa on your team
You can also equip your own mortred with guinsoo though I don't think you'll get that money in a 1v1 or 2v2 situation
How does guinsoo help to defeat Jah'rakal?
I just need to know what is his weakness. Every hero has a weakness. Can someone pls
tell me. How to beat him in a 2 vs 2 -apemscaa match.
With Guinso you will turn him into sheep and then you either attack, or escape-simple as that
btw...
Blind (D) Can be auto-casted.
i dont remember being able to autocast that.
i thought guinsoo is for INT heros?
Anyway i nid to noe his weakness!
if you want to beat this hero, just use disablers or nukers.
Try this build :
SangeYasha ,Boots of Travel
Butterfly ,Linken's
Tarrasque ,Burizado
U cud chase anyoe with these 1 vs 1
Just Blind -> Beserker's rage->Rampage
See the lovely bashes and maim and critical hits .He seems like bloodseeker's
thirst chase.
Nice hero but lacks hp and int.
@zharkaztiko
Nice question.
Well Jah'rakal and Naix both are fast attackers early game.
But Jah'rakal is better late-game due to the blind+Butterfly evasion that totally leaves Naix unable to use his Feast skill.
Moreover the Bash and critical hit/MkB
bonus damage +SangeYasha Maim send finishes him nicely.
Beware this is possible only when he's not Avatar.
This guy easily takes out heroes with low hp
fast and deadly.
Why isn't there any startegy for this cool Troll
????Need one......
treads, 2 MKBs Satanic, Buriza, Butterfly
Beyond Godlike 4 sure...lvl 25 2 mkbs means permabash in melee form...
wit criticals frm buriza..lyf steal lyk sht..cn 3v1..iv tried..awsme hero..try my build..
Does Cranium Basher stack with his first skill?
ya even 2 also still stack !(i tnink)
Tiny counters Jah’rakal
Item build: Power treads, helm of dominator, 2 cranium bashers, butterfly, Buriza, and make helm of dominator to satanic. I killed Tiny, Maiden, Chen, and 2 heroes ( I forgot who are they ) in a fight!http://www.dotastrategy.com/images/smileys/hopeful.gif
Hopeful I haven't got Buriza yet. They don't know that I was there.
Btw, just change to ranged form to counter Tiny's 3rd skill.http://www.dotastrategy.com/images/smileys/wink.gif
Wink
how to put the smileys in? (a foolishness of myself)
my item build would be: butterfly, divine raper, boots of travel, heart and mjolnir and hyperstone
Nukers + stun owns troll
I think there are two possible builds for him.
One would be a double basher and the other would be a stygian desolator+buriza+monkey king bar.
I was thinking of combining those two into one super Jah'rakal.
get power threads,butterfly,satanic,buriza,and two hypers or if u want give up 1 for aegis^^ull be beyond GODLIKE!!!(trust me i got 2 double-kills 2day in a pub game^^)...
^i mean 3^^ btw sry 4 the 2x post
My build
-PT
-Mjollnir
-Skadi
-Basher
-Basher
-Butter
and I don't use berserker rage, the range gives me the skadi-mjollnir combo that is ever so deadly!
They should give Troll Avatar, then he will truly be GOD.
But theres are heros that can counter him. Like if you try to attack Tiny with troll, you'd probably permastun yourself.
And Medusa's purge + mana shield can probably tank troll if she has a good build.
Remember troll is a terrible farmer and he sucks if he doesnt get to late game.
i think this build works..:
1) PT
2) Basher
3) mjollnir
4) Basher
5) Satanic (for late game and against str heroes)
6) Manta
u got 2 orb effects there.....
Actually there are 3 orb effects
Thanks for the info
hmm.... does skadi stack with his bash?
Is SATANic and Mjollnir is good to Troll???
My best build that i've ever tried to TROLL:
1. PT
2. Vanguard
3. 2x busher
4. Satanic
5. Lothars
is Mask of Madness OK to get for Jah'rkal?
nah.. you already have rampage. helm of the dominator is better. adds armor and it's cheaper. go for satanic afterwards. lifesteal with rampage is the bomb!
umm... can i ask something? wat is the maximum atak sped of a hero?
ummm... wat is the maximum atak sped of a hero?
My troll build, has been working pretty good...
1) stats
2) fervor
3) stats
4) fervor
5) stats
6) ult
7) stats
8) fervor
9) stats
10) *NOTHING*
11) stats+ult
12) fervor
13) stats
14) blind
15) stats
16) ult
17) stats
18) blind
19) stats
20) blind
21) blind
22) rage
23) rage
24) rage
25) rage
Item build:
Tangos/RoR + circlet to start
boots
4x wraith bands (easy 24 dmg/ias)
MKB
Buriza
BoT
Satanic
At level 11 you'll have 6 levels of stats and 4 wraith bands (+24 str, +36 agi, +24 int), total str: 63, total agi: 84.
Thats 110 dmg at 180% IAS (w/ ult). 1347 HP to tank.
Why no blind? Blind doesnt do anything against nukers which you fear, and really blind isn't that useful until you have some HP, and until midgame.
Why no rage? The problem with rage is you have to be in melee range, which means you are going to get owned unless its 1on1. Permabash is overrated. Stats are more useful!
to rain9441 yeah ur right perma bash is overated atleast in the early part of d game... i think ur post of skill is good since it focses on getting cheap items that delivers result though 1.3k life by mid game will still be to thin... especially when you get gb'd... rage+ulti+treads amounts to additional running and damaging power... f u use a basher+life steal item+blind u can tackle even 3 heroes at d same time taht is if they are not mainly nukers and stunners... i've seen it and done it... though i still believe that your post is good since its realistic even 4 a beginner and u can play it good when u get used 2 it... all in all its still how u use ur character not what u equip it with, its jaz preference... more power to dotrategy and kip dota alive!!!^_^
Yah! you all right this hero is GODlike with a balance item equipped to this hero. I play DOta Allstars 6.43 AI and i use this hero it can kill both 2 enemy hero(insane) in just 12secs.
Basher is a waste of money on this guy!It is best to get butterfly as his first skill gives him 10% chance to bash for TWO seconds(twice as much as basher).however the chance is too low, so its better to buy attack speed items like butterfly for him to activate his own bash more often.
yeah right der bro... aspd boost items are what he needed... get him bkb to be unstoppable... and satanic
1.Power Tread
2.Mask
3.Butterfly
4.Mask~Satanic
5.ancient tango of essificient
treads of agility
basher
butterfly
satanic
radiance/buriza
cuirass
My build:
satanic
power treads
2 basher
butterfly
assault cuirras
Guys one basher is enough:DBtw just get PT,Mealstorm,Basher,RoH and 2 bands
jAh`rAkaL iS thE bEst GUERILLA hErO!.,
power threads, 2x cranium basher and maelstrom iS oK., aDd sAtaniC iF yOU wAnt!.,
lol satanic + maelstrom?!!
Jah'rakal is my favorite hero.
the way to go beyond godlike with troll is PT,2x bashers, buriza, satanic, assault cuirass and the game is all yours
mkb
treads
dagger
2x butterfly
satanic
that should be enough
haha! one of the toughest hero in dota. he can ignite a better permastun than the faceless void. never give him a chance to farm or he will screw you!!!
Most of the players will say that Void MIGHT be the stongest hero in DOTA,it might be true but still,winning the game isn't about the heroes...
its about the players....
even if you use a strong hero,item and skill builds will be the factor to win the game..
and please its already 6.49!!!
bashers are already a hundred years old!!
its already been tested and proven that TROLL can permabash w/out bashers..trust me
I've seen the previous comments and believe me a single MKB is enough..
BoT
MKB
Satanic
Buriza
Butterfly
*SnY
*can be an optional item of your choice..since you can go to Godlike with only those 5 items
*is usually Lothar's for me everytime i encounter Void,my favorite enemy in Dota(said to be the hero that cannot be defeated 1v1 late game)
LOLZ
whoever "said" it was just bluffing..
he can be defeated,,by yours truly,
and TROLL
aghanims
this hero is just...crarzy (and imba)
yesterday i played him and i pwned clinkz who was beyond godlike
he didn´t has a chance cause he wasn´t able to move anymore^^
i put these items on troll:
1. butterfly
2. radiance
3. M.K.B.
4. Buriza
5. threads
6. maybe a basher would do.
troll's blind is hell, giving you 42% chance of missing on him, adding the 30% evasion of the butterfly plus the 8% evasion of the radiance. These 3 combos would give troll 80% evasion... see if you can hit him..
cranium basher
cranium basher
satanic
butterfly
assualt curiass
boots of travel
PT(AGI)
MoM
Basher
Basher
MKB
MKB
Just stay in Melee for always they cant really move then. It's always bonus dmg and a stun.
What's better for him, Treads or Travel?
Plz answer...
I got a game with friends soon.
what do you think??
1 Buterfly
1 bots of travel
2 cranium basher
1 buriza
1 Assult??/
what do you think??
any one will... eat the critical.. ^_^
Power Treads
Satanic
Butterfly
MKB
Buriza
Assault Cuirass
No Need for... MKB... much beter for!!
2 basher.
1 BURIZA
1 tRAVEL
1 bUTERFLY
1 SATANIC
This hero is damn weak in early game, but if farm well and wif good items, it can own
try maelstrom on the early game so he will not be a weak..
i use mkb, 2 buriza, quirass, vladimir, treads..or mkb, buriza, quirass, vladimir, treads, and mjollnir...unstoppable
PT
2*Basher
Mjollnir
Assault
Buriza-HoT
130% attack speed?
then another 120% on top of that??!??!!
hmmm hyper stones can stack =p
i use only 2 bashers 1 or 2 vanguard i satanic or MoM and power threads thats all. few items but strong and fast attacks.
why use basher if you can kill your enemy instantly??
try this...
treads
butterfly
mkb
satannic
and if you want,
dagger... ^^
troll is one of the money makers in dota so he can surely make those items... try it!
sorry forgot to include buriza... enjoy!
ATM i like
Vladimir's offering
Butterfly
Boots of travel
Eye of Scadi
Basher
and if you can make it: Assault cuirass
This guy become more imba after 6.50. His movement speed almost 522 in Berserker rage and u have Bot, SnY + Rampage. Rampage now only have 55 sec cool down.
Power Treads (Agi)
Basher
Basher
Butterfly
Satanic
Buriza
Meh, just purge his ulti. then its not really imba. u just wont win if ur a melee hero though
I usually go with this build:
Power Treads
Helm of the Dominator
Butterfly
Crystalys
...and later on if you have the time upgrade to Satanic and then Buriza. Unless you feel like you absolutely have to, don't buy Bashers until after the Butterfly. That's just my opinion, I've never been a big fan of bashing anyway.
What ztrapon said. I go BoS, then mask, complete PT and get BF say lvl 16. By the time you have PT you should alrdy own, and when u make BF its gg.
Troll powah
65 By lupeman 2007-05-18
1 Cranium basher is all you need for permabash. With naturally high ASPD and berserkers rage activated, you will gain a 32.5% of a bash each strike (he does about two strikes per second), with ulti activated...
Haha Another misleading post by lupeman.
the chance of missing a bash is .9 x .75
so the chance of bashing is about 20-25. 2 basher is necessary for permabash. and of course hyperstone. MKB and Mjo... for damage. Lothars and linken for defense.
If you use Lothars (which I prefer) make sure you switch to melee and activate rampage before you hit lothar.... either of those knock you out of inviso. Rampage is plenty long and the CD is moderate.
I like Lothar's early
+agi = +dmg
Great escape tool while you are still
weak
Great gank tool to get to melee range and start the perma bash.
Get one after PT
two bashers, tarasque, butterfly, PT & MKB will do...
Imba hero
Imba hero
Imba hero
this hero nice
building early
wraith band X2
mask of death
ancient tango
sappire water
mid game
wraith band X1
yasha
sange
mask of madness
hyperstone
late game
sange and yasha
mask of madness
butterfly
monkey king bar
radiance (for farming)
Assault Cuirass
SURE OWN TILL beyond godlike
Item Build for Jah'rakal:
-Power Treads
-Cranium Basher
-Vladmirs Offering
-Sange and Yasha
-MonkeyKingBar
-Butterfly/Assault Cuirass
NOTES:
-i use SANGE and YASHA instead on other ORB EFFECT items 'coz i tought that he get almost 500 movement speed(including RAMPAGE and BERSERKER'S RAGE is activate).You use BUTTERFLY,if your allies(skill type heroes) that don't need attack speed and Assault Cuirass if you have allies that needs more attack speed.
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this guy is nothing in a team battle if one of its enemies is medusa
one purge and the rampage will be gone
Don't get an MKB on troll. That's the stupidest item you could get on him besides like and arcane ring or something.
MKB's mini stun cancles bash, so it actually makes you worse.
i'll post a comment on MrZombie. Sorry,but jah'rakal needs MKB 'coz,you see?his skills are more on attack and movement speed only and this hero is good for PERMABASH,so if you see my build here, 1 basher then 1 MKB and activate the BERSERKER'S RAGE plus his RAMPAGE= STUN,all DAY,all NIGHT.
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This hero dont need bashers, if you see a person buying basher then ban that noob! troll has got a natural bash , although 10% but 2 sec
he have a big chance to get another stun in two sec and if you buy a butterfly instead of 2 bashers, you will still get permastun.
and if he dont get permastun for a momment, he still got blind to prevent opponent from hurting him,
The best way too pawn him is a disable hero
Rhasta is good the blind is useless cause he won't really need to atk coz the wards can do the attacks so when it's a 1v1 with Rhasta ur dead meat
but in late game if troll buy bkb, rhasta is a free food(best served with BBQ sauce)
this hero is really imba so try my build. first get vlad and stay in bushes till u have at least half ur items
the items are in order
vlad
hyper stone (can be changed into assult)
treads
butterfly
mjollnir
mkb
these items are for a normal game
if u meet and anti troll hero or one button heros just get bkb or linkin.
NOTE: if your opponent is a permabash hero like faceless void, slardar etc., we know that their stuns can avoid by using BKB. In the battle, activate your BKB, and those heroes are useless without their bash.
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Bkb dont block bash, it only block activatable stuns
Doom_Seeker, really? it can't affect the bash of heroes like faceless void and slardar when i use BKB? just asking 'coz i need to perfect this hero.
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NOTE: i tought that if i use linken to kardel, it blocks one stun of his 2nd skill but we know that it is passive(the HEADSHOT skill)and not a spell. TRY to use BKB to heroes like faceless void and slardar, im not TOTALLY sure that when you activate the BKB, it can block the stuns of those heroes even that it is passive and not a spell. i'll give you latest information about this.
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Bkb 100% cant block bash, i swear!
natural bash and bashers are not magical effect like storm bolt and ravage, so bkb wont block them. Refer to the comments on the item black king bar.
Doom Seeker, are you sure? i mean 100% sure, 'coz im hard to figh with permabash heroes like faceless void and slardar. well, thanks for that information.
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can troll switch between melee and ranged?
BKB doesnt block bashers. its a passive physical skill, bkb blocks most magical skills
my friend and i have this same build for early game..
we both got double kill at level 10 or 11.
by just using
mask of death..
then by Powertread(use str.)
the upgrade you mask of death to deminator..
the skills goes..
actck the enemy hero my using your bash then avtivate you ulti..
you get tons of bash in the level 10-11..
just try..ok,.?
give this guy a MoM and activate the same time as rampage... ULTRA FAST ATTACK SPEED..!!!!!!!!!!
whats the best build for this guy//?
who should i pair this hero with in 2v2?
oh man don't post comments that you can't build
almost all of your biuld is from the lvl 4 shop you'd be unstoppable with that build but the question is can you do it???!!!!
my build for this dude is
helm of dominator
power threads (AGI)
battle fury
the butterfly
try BKB so you'd be unstopabble
then GG
Battle fury on troll?
lol, no, unless ur planning on being only melee. even then, there are many better items
This is just a thought, but have anyone ever tried this build at midgame?:
Power treads (+10 str)
Diffusal blade (later for manta)
vladmir
2 bracers
total cost: 1850+3000+2075+1020=7945, a relatively low number for midgame i think
any suggestions/comments?
LATEST build 4 jahrakal:
-Power treads
-Mask of Madness
-Butterfly
-Monkey key bar
-Assault cuirass
-Buriza
Just you see why i use madness for this hero?Why?'coz his rampage is nearly equal to the atk spd of madness.Base on his skill, you don;'t need to have basher but you need more atk spd...
Just dont mind lupeman, he thinks hes really good and provides assinine ideas for heros and is always "right"
Final conclusion, this hero is hands down more dominant than pretty much any other one, and it allows you some early game dominance with his range switching. Ulti is just sick, iv seen people at lvl 12, get ganked, and with ulti, turn the gank around and kill the person, not rare with this hero. Normal build, bashers, desolator, drit, dagger
Stygian Desolator is not good for jahrakal...
buy -power tread
-MoM
-lothar
-buriza
-assault
-butterfly
All your builds suck. BEST for troll:
Treads
Buriza
Bash
Satanic
Butterfly
MKB
By the way you can own rosh solo at level 15 with only helm of dominator,treads, and crystalis.
how about deso , satanic and power treadS?????
use faceless to own him...
wouldnt lothars be better than dagger?
grants aspd, damage, bonus damage from agi gain and can be amplified from rampage?
exactly.
AoM is insane for this hero, im startin to like AoM more and more now.
Of course Lothars is better than dagger for any hero
lol AoM sucks on him
Pwned Owned by Night Stalker.
ME vs my friend
me NightStalker friend Troll
1.Threads
2.Basher
3.Basher
4.Vlad's
5.Bracers
6.Bracers
He had
1.Threads
2.Basher
3.Basher
GG whoever stuns first wins. XP but Ns's 2nd skill saved my butt
Cranium_Basher you clearly have no idea what you're talking about
magnus doesn't need lothars..he needs dagger instead
I disagree with 2 bashers one basher is enough with rampage
He gains bonus damage, "hit points, armor," and the Bash ability, but can only attack at melee range.
Hp and armor.? by how much.?
just play the game with him and find out.
my fav skill build is
3x Hyperstone
Bfly
Vlads
and Pt
the 3x hyperstones + ur ult giv u a pemabash past lvl 16, pt is for movment speed
bfly ur agi and need evasion for more fun
and Vlads so u never have to heal
The current 2 guides are horrible. With no lifesteal items. I finally submitted my guide. The first troll warlord guide with lifesteal.
@ h4ppycrap
actually ur builds shit.
mkb will cancel bash ya know.
U should probably do some
thinking before critising
other peoples builds.
@Enmity:
Dude, with lothars egde Magnus can WW and then go in MIDDLE of the melee and use Reverse polarity with the same accuracy :) Only thing is that LE gives agi and dmg, and dagger gives nothin' got it?
I think Youre all stupid... i created(in order):
1.Power Thread
2.MoM
3.2 bashers
4. 1 butterfly...
thats so simple and not very expensive and i can kill doble kills all the time.
Treads,Satanic,2 cranium bashers,Hyperstone,Butterfly.The way to gain a very easy triple kill
Hmm, I normally save up for Skadi from the start as the 2 Ultimate Orbs needed for it can help me a lot during the early stages. Once I get Skadi, I can slow down my opponent while I speed up with Frenzy, not to mention the +25 to all my stats : >
does rampage stack with MoM..?
Treads -> Basher -> Satanic -> Butterfly -> Buriza (optional, helps the Satanic)
Try it one day, it's ridiculous.
the hero that can kick voids ass
u guys are dumb, bashers are the gayest items to have on troll, he already has a 2second stun so u might as well get a mkb cuz mkb> bashers any day
mkb will CANCEL ANY PREVIOUS bash.. so a couple of bashers's percentage will stack with the 1st skill... so.. its WAAAAAAAAYYYYY BETTER on this guy...
My last 5 games went godlike with this build. follow build carefully
-courier
-belt of giant(survivability)
-ring of regen
-boots
-mask of death (farm neutrals,you'd be around level 7)
-treads
-vladmirs (go melee most of the time from now on)
-sange (for maim)
You'd be around level 13 with these items and you can start soloing. Maim with bash,blind and ulti, really scary!!!
-lothars - killing time!
-complete S&Y
notice u never have to sell anything and all are easy to buy items!!
Just a suggestion. Build Linken's sphere first if you want to score a quick kill on a nuker at level 7-9 but once you have farmed enough for a second Ultimate Orb. Deconstruct the Linken to get your first Orb back to build Skadi as it's more crucial for the later levels and you still end up with Perserverance. You can choose to rebuild Linken after EOS but I normally go for a hyperstone at this point : >
I faced this guy before, and just like his skill, he was on a rampage!
With rampage or not this hero is a BEYOND GODLIKE killer!!
every time i get him i become the fear of my enemies!
!Just by:
1)Power Treats
2)Monkey King Bar
3)Assault Cuirass
4)Mjollnir
5)Vladmir's Offering
6)Butterfly
Turn to melle attacker and you will be a BEYOND GODLIKE player!!!!
Ownage hero
my build
treads
dominator
bashers x2
satanic
mkb
butterfly
and if you get bashers while in melee mode do your bashers have a 15% chance or 10%
@watcher4, no to POWER TREATS!
herMm.. Satanic w/ Butterfly (put 1 basher, activate melee mode, then..) WHACK WHACK WHACK!! ^_^V,
Here's my build:
Power Treads / BoT
HotD - then Satanic
Butterfly
1 Basher ONLY! (2x basher is a waste even you've got more chance of bash)
HoT - more HP and Damage
misc item (maybe AS)

Ok lets see...from a valid point of view
At lv25 he atks once evry 0.82 secs for 124-142 dmg and has 46% dmg reduction with 1841 hp(2687 hp in sum ways wit dmg reduction,and 3816hp from non spell,non armour cuting based dmg frm 1 hero (cus of 8 sec "blind" cool down)in sum ways wen u aply the 42%chance of them missing although this is not 100% acurate & aplys in 1v1 situations with no spel dmg Eg against straight foward melee heroes).
So realy judge ur build on situation, and pic ur batles
*while his ult is active he has 227% IAS which means he actually actacks once every 0.52 secs for 124-142.
So ok...nows the items.
Power treads,i think these are great on him. They add 40% atk spd and ten dmg which is good for perma bash without those redicilously priced bashers.Also wen cmbned with ur ult ms buf becum evn btr and strt 2 catch up with bot ms.& they only cost 1850 which is great especialy early game where they make a huge difference in dmg:atk spd and farming(last hit adv).
MOM...good 4 perma bash though in team games(where you actually use real teamwork and comunication)mom isnt so good because 1v1's happen less and zuse ect if ready on opp team do even more dmg cus of the incrs in dmg taken.It also applies with ganks, u activate it someone comes out and suddenly u take alot more dmg.Also atk spd stacks with deminishing returns and with ur already hight atk spd they become even worse.1v1 sits in casual games sure cus of da perma bash but in real games no thanks.
S&Y...not worth it in some ways*.ya dont need the health teribly, dmg vs price its not awsome although with ur intense atkspd the maim plus stun may synergise well,though personaly not 4 me.
Satanic...no thanks.theirs cheaper items that'll do an agl heroe alot btr(for money) and with the reasonably high health its a bit accesive for money,again in a team game with tw u want sumtin like vlads for the aura otherwise helm for life gain.
Buterfly...well...in games where people deny alot bf is rather expensive and its build up untill it completion wont complement troll alot.Its a rather hard item to get in a hard game untill real late.Also the evade only comes in handy during ganks because u should be 1 on 1ing melees with ur vlad or helm.If theres heaps og nukers it may help seeing blind wont do alot on the otherhand...so again situational,do u really need the evasion?im not saying its good or bad the more i think about...?hmmm.
If you use troll and die you are a noob i get TREADS,5 WARITH BANDS, SNY, 2 BASHERS, AND BUTTERFLY and BEhond god uber fast!!!!
Try Getting Treds 2 Wraths Maelstorm Farm Butterfly Get Vlads Finish Molonjior ( AND NO BASHERS! Who Can truthfully Say bashers Aient Cheap Expesially Perm Bash...)
Yes I Know I cant Spell For Crud! ! !
The hero that can actually kick voids ass
No, he can't because of Void's ult
On a 1 vs 1 game, which character can kill a 2xbasher build Troll???
ahahaha,,, that strategies for noob,,, make another strategies easy noob,,, ahahah... bye the way make some practice to make a perfect strategies
my build 4 troll is
1.treads
2.mjonaire
3.vlad
4.any item coz ur already unstoppable
5.abuse ur power
6.optional 1 basher is enough itz already perma stun
my build 4 troll is
1.treads
2.mjonaire
3.vlad
4.any item coz ur already unstoppable
5.abuse ur power
6.optional 1 basher is enough itz already perma stun
When playing as troll, you want attack speed and perm stun and critical damage, nothing else matters.
1)treads
2)HoD
3)Cristlis
4)2 Bashers
5)upgrade to Buriza
6)Butter
7)upgrade to Satanic
After that, you will be b. godlike, if the game goes on for that long.
duhhh wat a stupid item u used in ur game,
just take build dis item and experience the unbeatable GOdLyk ul encounter in the game..
1st=heLm of Dominator
2nd=boots
3rd=BUTTERFLY
4th=SATANIC
5th=MKB
6th=GET AGEIS
7th=DIVINE RAPIER
with all the atk speed hes got the bashing
chance goes high so no need for bashers..
you just need
1. power threds
2. satanic
3. buterfly
4. MKB
and that kills anyone in its path unstopable. and a buriza optional or anything you want for more
10% chance of stun is not very high, despite how fast troll can attack. Especially when you are trying to kill somebody who has BoT. I like my 70% of stun much better.
this dude needs a vanguard early game.. kind of weak..
i think bone flecther can own this guy if bone has a decent buikld.. he can attack with strafe and when troll is running at u, u can use windwalk, go behind(or in front) then keep attacking him
I think the best build and for permabash is
1.Treads(agi)
2.Cranium
3.Cranium
4.MoM or Vlads
5.Buriza,MkB,MOjllinar
6.Hyperstone
k2decay, I tried bone just days ago to go against troll but it was bad, with Troll's Blind and Bash...I had no way to win no matter how fast my attack was.
2 bAshers, power treand, buriza, butterfly, assualt curiass = OWN :D
hmmm...paano po yan matalo??
troll jarakol jakol
troll jarakol jakol
that looks sucks
he can easily pawned by faceless void
buriza cuirass satanic and butterfly are the best items for jah'rakal
also boot of travel and desolater
Troll with no basher totally cannot own and permabash the enemy, even with butterfly, becos 10% bash is too low no matter high fast you attack. You can try it in AI mode. I would suggest 2 bashers, easy to farm than butterfly even people say you're noob, just let it be...if you're touched by him with 2 basher items and rampage..only God can save you...even you want to WW or dagger oso cannot move...
MoM + 2 Bashers = love
lifesteal is a must for this hero guys, maybe a MoM or a HoD, but not vladi's..
Hey oh Troll warlord users. Basher is totally useless in my point of view. Troll already have bash which is 2 secs , basher's is 1.1 secs. You are like canceling out the stun everytime.
My ultimate build for troll is.
first : hand of midas ( early game farming)
then u can sell it .
So the final items will be
1)Boots of travel
2)Butterfly
3)Buriza-do-kynoun
4)Vladi's Offering ( lifesteal and awesome damage percentage increase)
5)Desolator
6)Another Butterfly or Hearts.
Does Vladimir stack with Mjollnir? Cause I love Mjollnir but I just need a source of HP when i go hero killing, so Vladimir would be perfect, does anyone if it does infact stack or not?
Power Treads (for ms and aspd) Any hero needs this item or BoT
MoM (for +75 aspd)This for his bash
Hyperstone-later you can turn into assault (for +55 aspd)
Butterfly (for evasion and aspd) Any agi hero needs this item
Buriza (for critical)for easier hero killing
With this this build you will permabash and have 72% evasion (butterfly+blind).
(((Beyond Godlike)))
@gobbledok:
Vladimir is NOT an orb effect, and it stacks with Mjolinir, as it stacks with all other orb effects
My end game build for troll:
agi treads
buriza do
satanic
butterfly
MKB
Aegis
it was overkill, but by the time i had agi treads + buriza + HotD + 2xwraith bands... it was enough, and i was already 9-1.
the key to troll is farm up agi treads + buriza + HotD asap, turn on melee, turn on rampage, own anyone in sight.
@kyokushin1:
e lamer, kfi sa tiq gluposti
Monkey King Bar
Price: 5400
and will cancel any previous bash...
if u buy this item... u re very nooob one..
pt
vanguard
dominator (lategame satanic)
basher x 2
butterfly
if there is blade mail add vladmirs too
Does his 2nd skill Blind stack with Butterfly evasion ? 42+30= 72% to miss , this is imba when playing agains permabasher and dps heroes
I'm a fan of jarakal...a great hero...
I wana use this hero sometimes, what are the items for him?
I know he needs treads, satanic, vanguard, butterfly, vladmirs, basher
my build 4 jah'rakal:
basher
basher
MKB
satanic
butterfly
treads
SLEEPING BEAUTY UNG ENEMY MU!!!
enge koments 4 my hero...
true i think 1 basher is enuf and mkb on troll is kinda useless as it does cancel the effect of the stun. getting a vlads would be great as it aint an orb effect so u can get another orb say maim from SnY or even mjollnir. a hyperstone to an assault cuirass would be better.
Ok, just came from an apem pro game, went 20-1-10. YOU WILL NEED BASHERS. His passive 10% is way too low. 20-30% are much better especially when you have AC and Butter. The reason why I prefer hood of dominator more than MoM or Vlad is because you can upgrade it to satanic which you'll need in later game especially if they have a nuker or a disabler. As far as Vlad goes, first of all, it's melee only, and second of all, it only increases your BASE damage, not your total damage.
LOOOOOOL "apem pro game" HAHAHAH OMG
Pros don't play -em, you lame thing
build ko d2. Satanic double basher threads butterfly at cuirras.. un lang.. kht well kaya nang patain basta makakuha kau cheese mula kay roshan...
Actually, it was suppose to be -ap, until the host screwed up...
dudes hw do i pawn this hero???any1 ???
Buying bashers is a complete waste of money for this dude because mid/late-game you will permabash anyway.
My favorite build:
Ring of Regeneration - to prevent harrass
Ring of Basilius
Mask of Death
--start farming woods--
>Vladimir's Offering
--continue farming--
Boots of Speed
Belt of Giant Strength
Gloves of Haste
>Power Treads
--farm farm farm--
Sange
Yasha
>Sange & Yasha
At this point, you can go out and rape anyone 1v1. Getting ranged lifesteal is a complete waste because you only use melee when hero killing, and with S&Y you become faster than most, and also have ranged maim.
If you feel weak, get Butterfly. If you just want even more damage, get Crystalys. As usual, BKB is also a good mid-item making you unstoppable.
As for skills, I usually max out Rage asap for farming, and Fervor too. Blind harrassing is overestimated, but it's a priceless skill end-game, meaning you can kill two people in a row without dying. If you're up against many nukers, go with attributes instead.
This guy is an unbelievable killing machine unless stopped early game. Just make sure you stay alive to get S&Y and Vladi.
- guyz, using vladmirs?hmmm, waste of money and build for troll. his atk spd i
