Lesale Deathbringer - The Venomancer

i think his poison sting lasts for 7 secs not 2 sec. ^_^

I hate this hero (when he plays against me)!Poisoning atack,dagger and even the ultimate.And that poison sting is really about 7 or 6 seconds!!!Somebody's got to fix it... but never mind,Venomancer is just greaaaat!!!!

Veno is not nice. Shadow Strike, they are slowed, you have range with a passive slow. Beat this, go up to two or three guys, Nova, SS one, walk off; no attacking. The guy you daggered gets killed by the combo. Its sooooo fun. The problem is that the Nova will not actually kill people, hence the dagger.
One of my favorite heroes.

i was vsin him lots yesterday, he annoys the crrap out of me and i was usin Mortred so it was very hard to kill him. cos im a low health character, close up fighter and armour is very low. he hurts wheneva he shadow strikes, poisons, poison stings and then wards from behind (with assistance of MoM frenzy).

dis hero is good on 5 on 5 games!

lane lock with wards for free exp and ring of basillius. by the time ur cooldown for that ward is over, ur mana will be replenished. free exp! kill neutrals to lvl. most people wont bother attackn the wards unless its the only thing left.

Lesale Deathbringer, The Venomancer...

They should've just called him Zerg Hydralisk

You are right Umbrella_SWAT! The Venomancer model of Warcraft first appeared on Starcraft as Hydralisk which looks exactly the same! I wonder why did they come up with an idea of naming it Venomancer instead of Hydralisk! TANK you!

Best for Venomancer:
1.Power treads
2.Sange and yasha
3.Butterfly
4.Hyperstone

i think one of his skills are being under estimated by some... "plague ward" -> can be a power pusher too ya know... perce is just what you need...

they should've called him jun jun special... . . .

they should've called him jun jun special... . . .

i love doin this, in big ass fights. 3 plague ward an exit, run into the battle and poison nova, pretend to flee into ur wards and if anyone chases shadowstrike and ward behind them.

Venomancer is GOD!!!!

Venomancer is my hero!! Venomancer is easy to kill enemies, but not to viper. Viper it's too difficult to killed by Venomancer. m/^_^m/

I like this hero very much
It's easy to play.
Hah..ha...

i love this hero.on another site it said poision nova is for 13 sec and does 132 damage per sec

best item build is
1Power treads
2vangaurd
3linkens
4butterfly
5MKB
6Buzaria

didnt know an agility hero benefitted from scepter. hmmm

Coolest hero ever. I like to use Treads, S&Y, lothars and butterfly. Funniest thing is windwalking near an enemy and just using poison nova

i think assult cuirass is also a good item for zergyy what you think?

aphotic to him, toss and ulti!!!!

assuming that ur teammates ain't noob

His ulti kills...trust me. All you have to do is timing sometimes what i do is hit him a couple of times then ulti then hit him again. Hell eventually run and then i juz killed som1 agen.

I can kill veno 1v1 i'll use abbadon, if veno use his ulti abbadon can disppel tah by his ulti, and if veno use shadow strike just use abbadon shield and i'll build linken for addition defence how that? Veno is no math for abbadon...

this hero pwns!!!
ss and poison nova together gets DOUBLE KILL

"His the coolest character ever!": By my little brother

I Killed Roshan With This Hero at just lvl 7

During the battle vs Venomancer my opponent skinda goes like

This guy cud beat the hell out of a Drow ranger unless silenced.
Even bringing down towers is so damn easy with this brat.
Just keep popping out ward near towers and build up damage to finish out nearby creeps.
Ultimate cud really turn the game!!
Shadow strike has a nice slow for fleeing enemy
Make sure that the enemy has slow and
poison ridden death:Dont rush with this
dude.Hurry up with skill only when enemy is halfway on Hp
Have the Poison Nova strike on low hp enemy.
He'll be down by the time he reaches healing pool

When i play against tough players, Venomancer is my premier hero. Basically, Shadow Strike is the most useful ability combine with Poison Sting. You can always pawn any hero in the game with these two abilities. Honestly i seldom use the Poison Nova to pawn. Its too easy with a click on it. I do enjoy prefer Shadow Strike.
The items that enhance Venomancer's ability to become Godlike are Yasha&Sange (1st and a must item!). Then Buriza-do Kyanon will be a good add-on. Did i say The Butterfly? This is a very powerful item to have it the inventory. Speed is everything in this game. For Venomancer, you don't need the Frenzy like Razor or Viper. ^^ One more thing, I think Venomancer is a better stalker than the Night Stalker!

Aghanim's Scepter can improve his ultimate. I think Aghanim's Scepter is a nice item for him.

treads, sny, mkb, butterfly, assault cuirass, vanguard pawned a pudge who had 6k health (three hearts and a couple of vanguards). enough said i think.

which hero is great against veno and how can i use it against him?

sickest combo ever: i played as the viper and a friend as venomancer. Vipe's poison shot and ult stacked with the sting and the nova. QUAD POISON FTW!

Dont you think its a bit much to overkill with two ultis on one hero?
Venomancer can solo Roshan with mass wards at lvl 8 (assuming wards are maxd)

There's a popular variation for this hero at the @rena near De La Salle University Manila. Max out plague wards and poison sting, then max out the first skill. I'm not sure if it is an old build, but I'm pretty impressed with its farming and pushing ability.

with agannins scepter, he deals something like 1600 damage with his normal attack + his slow poison + poison nova, without consider enemies armor (i am still a begginer, does armor affects poison?) and he still have his wards and his attack, the only thing i do with him is mana and the scepter, after that, everything is fun ^^^

Afghanims,Butterfly,Burizado,MKB,Boots of Travel,Linkens and solo rush from all sides
Beware opponents

This guy rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The best hero in the game of dota!

WOOT ITS HYDRALISK~

Venom owns

ultimate hero killer hardest hero to tank.just se ulti wait for a sec and use shadow stike on one hero if more heros are there go frenzy with mask of maddness

Actually it's not so hard to tank

damn he is good i once played a dm and was getting owned until i got this guy bruze goes well for him!

..he can kill anyone in early game and in mid game..very cool when one on one..

At early games this hero owns....at mid game he is ok...at late game he is useless!!!

Yes..sort of; However if have ruled Early-Mid game you should have enough gold(decent items) to make him strong for the Late game as well

its pretty hard to make him good for late game.
He would need something like this
Boots of Travel
Butterfly
Aghanims Scepter
Blink Dagger
MKB
MKB/Refresher Orb (one hit with the ulti won't take down most heroes even half the health)

Well after all we're talking about late game, and as I said-if you've owned in early-mid game, then you can pretty much get the items you need ; besides the other players have difficulties in getting all the items as well(especially after being killed several times in early-mid game )

a good tank will own him at late game, even if venomancer has ownage items and the tanker only has few items.

ok im kinda a noob player but i think i came up with a good strat

in the beggining get

boots of speed

two iron wood branches
shout shield
chain mail
then get
headdress of reguvenation
and then
nazerium buckler
i then get
mask of death
and helm of iron will
maybe i can afford
this usually takes me to the end of the beggining game i try to get at least
the helm of the denominator

by breaking up bying the peices it helps me farm faster cause im slowly building armor and attack with the life gain my therory is your piosoness so if you survive the battle long enough you will eventually win threw dot and reg attack.

mid game

mekanism - recipe, awsome for survival when running low on hp

i get a vangaurd for more life and it regens the health along with the helm

i take a look at who i am fighting if i can easliy catch up on who i am fighting i go for attack speed with power treads
if i haven't gotten the items i need yet to survive or the players surviving i go for travel so i can retrat and switch to a new lane and push till i get what i need.

i then strive for a mis reaver.
and then i get hte recipe for satanic,
extra life steal, extra damage from +25 strenght

i then get a soolbooster or another reaver it all depends if the armor i have allready is enough if it is i go for the mis reaver if not i go for the sool booster

each one is working its way to still another biuld the mis reaver will be for a HoT and the Sool booster will be for blood stone.

late game -
i purchase a Butterfly for mote damage and attack speed

i purchase ether the HoT or the bloodstone which ever one i didn't by the last time

skill build

early push/ harrass/farm tactic

1.poison sting
2.stats
3.poison sting
4.stats
5.poison sting
6.nova
7.stats
8.poison sting
9.shadow strike
10.stats
11.nova
12.shadow strike
13.shadow strike
14.shadow strike
15.ward
16.stats
17.nova
18.ward
19.stats
20.ward
21.stats
22.ward
23.stats
24.stats


tell me what you think i have had many fun times ganking and fast farming with this build i didn't know how to post a strat so i just put the build up

plague ward is invaluable. i dunno why people hate gettin it early.
1. massin wards can early push
2. can early harass
3. can use as regular ward and view possible gank areas
4. farm neutrals
5. kill roshan (roshan only attacks veno, not the wards.)

venos pretty much dead at late, so i figured that its better to push early and get some tower gold to defend myself for late.

is dagon something to get veno early game?

Noone really realised that roshan mainly attacks the wards if you stay away from him...that way you can kill him and still have more time to pwn other players....i managed to get through to my enemy's base by level 12...

its first person who attacks roshan that roshan targets. afta roshan leaves his area for a period of time, he will run back and u can attack again. the trick is to plant wards just outside of the wards attack range of roshan. this way roshan wont attack the wards, but the wards will attack him when he leaves his area or is fallin back to his area.

Eh? Yeah that gets the job done i suppose i just get annoyed when i'm attacking with the wards he kills one then comes to attack me...then i run off then come back and he's attacking the wards again... i'm always at a loss at when to attack roshan...

Best for him: on the beginig wraith band(3x), and then butterfly and you are GODLIKE!

really annoying hero to fight against

Can SnY or Skadi stack with his poison sting?

Ok well poison is in itself unique, sny is orb and skadi isn't an orb, so they all stack...

Ok well poison is in itself unique, sny is orb and skadi isn't an orb, so they all stack...

Hydralisk! Go Go Go and kill TERRAN!

bfly, treads, hyperstone, aghanims, buriza, and I guess a linkens or Radiance.

Treads butterfly x2 bloodstone (i just love that item and the only health item required for veno) buriza, and its already a gg...

icefrog should so make more starcraft characters...templar assassin is from aier so that is kind of a character, but they should have a normal high templar with hullicination and psi storm etc and what about a defiler MORE SC HEROES!

hmmm, is one level of ss enough?

normally the rest of my skills go into maxing psting and the wards.

and of course, nova whenever possible.

I am using Venomancer For like 2 years now. I make him Intelligent type hero
Items I recommend Boots of Travel and AGHANIMS SCEPTER (READ AGHANIMS DESCRIPTION) and now AGHANIMS IS CHEAPER Improves Venomancer's Ulti imagine the poison made stronger OUCH Other items like MKB and Linken can help too.

First I damage him with my normal attack as much damage as I can then I use shadow strike then move close to the enemy hero then poison nova then continue attacking him as possible.

I forgot to tell you guys you can use Shiva Guard Item for Venomancer imagine this Shadow Strike then Poison Nova Then Shiva Guard, Shiva Guard 200 damage PLUS slow OUCH!!!!!

I think they called him Venomancer because Hydralisk is just a kind of unit but naming him Venomancer is like making him a hero of all the Hydralisk. Like Luna Moonfang and Traxex they are just an ordinary unit in an ordinary Warcraft game but on DOTA they are the Heroes of Their kind.

my primary items would be...

Mjolnir
Assualt Curiass
Power Treads

Aganihm's is not that of a neccessity for this hero.

Hoe long does his poison thing last?

assault cuirass
stygian desolator
boots of travel
buriza
vanguard/hood of defiance
OWNED!!

Dis guy ownes so much!!! Just ss ur enemy then nova attack attack attack then he pwned!!!

i use Radiance with him for more dot power

radiance is cool... it amplifies Veno's ulti. 108 + 35 = 143 dmg per second! LOL

Veno is tooooooo STRONG!!!!!!!!!! don't u know tat at level 7 veno could beat roshan????????? BUT...
u should take the 3rd skills of veno first.... then take the 2nd skill, keep on doing that and don't mind about the ulti...
when u are fighting roshan, call always the serpent ward... ROSHAN WILL DIE!!!!!!!!!!

When on 5 on5
always learn ward before stats
It's great when defending the structure
(just figure it the other day)

I love this character so much for early/mid game, especially with new items. I get wards and Shadow Strike first so as I can push a tower buy level 4-6 depending on the skill of the opposition. He can be imba as an intel hero or and agi hero, personally I like intel builds the best cause you just spam wards and he goes off his face with pushing, you wards just destroy the creep waves, not to mention if you build the max you can before they start to dissappear it's almost impossible for the enemy to push past them to your creeps. As for killing, it's too easy, especially if you have Shiva's Guard, you just set up some wards a little away from some heroes, run (or blink if you have dagger) into them, set off your ultirun back past your wards so they chase you then attack one, shadow strike another, and target your wards on another one then they'll all start to run away and you'll kill one guaranteed, probably two but if you don't just run into the middle of them again and shiva's guard if you have it, that should kill them or give you enough time to kill them at least.

Mjolnir
Assualt Curiass
The Butterfly
Radiance
Aganihm's Scepter
Boots of Travel

all i want 2 say is "i love venomancer"

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its not hard to kill him with my doombringer. get powerthread, battle fury, s&y, HoT, buriza/satanic n add aghanim if u want to make sure he is death.
sneak attack him with doom, cast lvl?death, scorcherd earth. the silence effect from doom make the poison nova is useless n the scorched earth make ur ASPD n MS is rockin!!. go foward to him for laying some attack on him.. n then just let him go.. :-p the doom will kill him for sure

in a fight against leviathan he can not win.

Int type venomancer:

Wraith Band
Wraith Band
Shiva's Guard
Aganihm's Scepter
Radiance
Boots of Travel

I would never get aghanim's for Lesale. I would build him up like any other dps hero and use ulti as a supporting skill. If you rely on his ulti too much, you will regret it at late game.

Has anyone ever tried refresher on him?
I wonder would it be good...

He needs to go to roshan at lvl 7 with lvl 4 wards and u solo roshan

this is my favourite hero!
and i think poison ward is being underestimated, it can be very powerful!

sry double posted, and meant to say plague ward

Venomancer's da bEsT!!!! I like this hero so much. cuz from the first day i played dota, i used dis hero. Venomancer ROCKS!!!!

Butterfly
Aghanim
Power treads
Buriza
Assault cuirass
Buriza

item build:
2x writh bands
2x butterfly---ownin
1 mkb--- seriously ownin
1 assault-- just stay @ the enemy fountain n w8 4 them 2 respawn

My normal build with the venomancer is as follows...
1. Boots of speed/1 tango/1 mana potion (starting build in em)
2. Upgrade to power treads (strength)
3. Bracer
4. Bracer
5. Crystalis
6. Buriza
7. Butterfly

All Hail Venomancer

lol red scropian got the 100th post

skill build 4 me
1 plagueward
2 poisonsting
3 plagueward
4 poison sting
5 plague ward
6 shadow strike
7 plague ward
8 poison sting
9 poison sting
10 shadow strike
11 shadow strike
12 shadao strike
13 nova
14 nova
15 nova
16 the rest stats........

sange nd yasha
monkey king bar
radiance
treads
heart of tarrasque
empty bottle

the venomancer guides are very bad, in fact... terrible (they are basically the same really, same item builds same skill build)... shadow strike should not be maxed out, as venomancer cannot support the mana, instead get shadow strike first (for da slow) den poision sting (which is ur main harrassing skill) and choice of stats or plague wards. Agahnims is a terrible item on veno (VENO IS DPS NOT INT!!!!) mjolnnir is a much prefered item, as u can farm with easy.Dagger/Lothars is used with ult

lesale is one of my favourite heroo
he cool his face like alien

don't take poison nova untill your mana enough to use shadow strike and poison nova combo

try this one:
Power Treads
Mjolnir
Assault Cuirass
Vanguard
Buriza
MKB

Venomancer can still defeat Viper. you just need to hit him with dagger first then nova then a little normal attack and always carry a flask...

items for venomancer:
-power treads
-butterfly
-buriza- do- kaynon
-aghanims scepter
-assault cuirass
-snge and yasha
and if you wanta smacking slow down.. you can put the eye of skadi in venomancer. even if the item is for int types it can do much improvement for venomancer. the poison sting and shadow strike sloes the enemy as well as the normal attack and critical strike with buriza too. powerful combination!

the aghanims scepter increases the damge of poison nova and minimizes its cooldown to 60 seconds in level 3 ultimate....

Paulo adict ka na sa Venomancer...alam mo na lahat... kamuka mo pa..

By the way Veno's poison is very deadly especially for those who have low HP

SKILL GUIDE

LV 1 SHADOW STRIKE

LV 2 POISON STING

LV 3 SHADOW STRIKE

LV 4 POSION STING

LV 5 SHADOW STRIKE

LV 6 POISON STING

LV 7 SHADOW STRIKE

LV 8 POISON NOVA

LV 9 POISON STING

LV 10 STATS

LV 11 STATS

LV 12 STATS

LV 13 STATS

LV 14 STATS

LV 15 STATS

LV 16 STATS

LV 17 STATS

LV 18 STATS

LV 19 STATS

LV 20 STATS

LV 21 STATS

LV 22 PLAGUE WARD

LV 23 PLAGUE WARD

LV 24 PLAGUE WARD

LV 25 PLAGUE WARD

SURE OWN IF U KNOW HOW 2 USE

use dagon for venomancer..
shadow strike then poisonova then dagon.. look how pain is it....

he is my favorite hero in dotA!!!

pro hero..
1. Agil treads
2. S and Y
3. Lothars
4. Butterfly

pro hero..
1. Agil treads
2. S and Y
3. Lothars
4. Butterfly

easy, fun ...and stracraft hydralisk bring me memories =,)

venomancer i am killing heroes over and over juz hav threads travel better,S&Y or butterfly better then shiva guard for 3 on 3 4 on 4 or 5 on 5 in 1 on 1 dont use shiva guard prosed in MKB or Buriza. .

1 on 1
-juz attck him then shadow strike then nova+kill

2 0n 2
-its sam e in 1 on 1 but better to use last skill/ulti in the 2 enemy heroes

3 0n 3,4 0n 4,5 0n 5
-shadow the best player or the weakess player the team wants then easily poison nova(better the best player)

continution!!!!!

after ulti usually all enemy died because ur team hav skills to attck>>>ok if their alive hero/es because of high HP shiva him so he cant run away..!


3 0n 3 40n 4 5 on 5 always gang ok!

Just get SnY,travel,shivas Get only the stuff you really need = GG^^

good hero

My build:
BoT
MKB
Vanguard
Satanic
Aghenims
Cuirass

My items on Venomancer are
Stygian Desolator
Power Treads
Butterfly
and Aganims Scepter
and maybe Vanguard as well:D

will skadi stack with his passive skill???

veno can kill roshan in lvl 5 haha..

Im just confused some people tells me that poison sting last for 7 sec... but its written in this site that its just 2 secs.. what the real deal? 2 or 7 secs? for poison sting?

just rush agihams and its GG
also max wards first
u get way more gold
i finished agihams at lvl 10
and then get skadi
more slow=godlike and slow gets a lot better and u still have poison sting on it!

@enblar

do yourself a favour and quit dota for suggesting that rushing aghanim's is the way to go

Power Treads (str/agi, depending on how many bracers you're getting) 1850
Bracers x 2 (510 x 2)
Lothars (4050)
Linkens (5175)
Butterfly (6250)
Mjollnir (6760) / MKB / Tarrasque

this is one of my favourite hero...

his ultimate especially, ummm tasty if we combined with shadow strike + poison sting & Aghanim = holy ****

Saw the replay of a lvl 5 venomancer killing a Roshan

if ur scaping to venu and he hits u wid her nova and u have 10 hp bfore that ulti u can survive cuz even how nova hurts hero ,u can hav 1 hp remaining even the nova still in u ..sowee im not gud at english

@enblar
""and then get skadi
more slow=godlike and slow gets a lot better and u still have poison sting on it!""

i dun thnk it stck dude...bth skadi and vnmncr poison sting is a buff placer..so there will be no way that both of it will stack, no stckng so no ""more slow=godlike and slow gets a lot better and u still have poison sting on it!"" base on wht i hv seen if u take skdi as ur item u'll still got ur posion sting as ur buff placer..so buying skadi is kind of useless Lol... U such a NOOB

pt sy vg mkb crit ...

7secs??? Lol which means 140 bonus attack per shot

. . .this is my buiLd for vEno. .

1. Power Treads

2. Vanguard then Later in the Late game i change it into HoT

3. MKB

4. ButterfLy

5. MKB

6. it depends on your enemy. . .. maybe BKB, Linken's Sphere or Assault Cuirass or maybe Divine Rapier. . .

This hero basically harrasses you....and it FREAKING ANNOYS ME IN EARLY GAME.

I lvl up poison sting early, more then shadow, and just occasiocaly hit opponents. When i get lvl 6, i move up, nova + shadow = death. Never take wards, they are usseles. They can be used as wachouts for ambushes in late game, but they are basicly usseles. Dont know why he even has that skill.

I like to:
power treads
yasha&sange
butterfly
lothars edge

nothing much to say

GODLIKE!!!!

the only reason i use sometimes wards is to harass the hero/opponent and keep him away from last hit. it's so powerful and effect trick. just try it.

ward is for harass push it's not useless
nad tank lol

Man i woned with him. I got hand of midas, treads and butterfly thats plus 90% atk speed plus the poison they wont move much. And i also got mjol for the chain lightnin and the damage. Nobody could kill me.

who is stronger venomancer or viper

i vote for the viper

the wards are cool, once i was killed by one

who can kill sven

BoT
EoS
Lothars edge
Butterfly
Buriza
Buriza
===========
Ultimate build

for me veno is 1 of the best heroes in DotA

VENOMANCER = STRICTLY EARLY TO EARLY MID-GAME, after that hes so useless might as well leave. I was owning so hard early game and going against late gamers like PA and she kept owning us so i was like fuck it i did my part early game guys im out. I mean, they'd have a better chance of winning because their income wouldve went up so i left that mo-fo

@ 148 By Cranium_Basher 2008-07-28, and eny1 else who suggest a build with EoS in it. EoS is a buff placer, and so is your 2nd skill. It doesn't stack, dont get it.

If you get this hero, always try to solo up or down lane. If u play well, it's impossible to die, if u get lothars. How? Put 1 point in ward at early game, and just put a ward in the forest around you. People usually want to rape him, cus he has low hp and he gets imba in mid game, but if you see them coming, u can safely get away, or pwn them.

Guys guys guys, posin wards r useless. Get max skill for every cept posin wards first: this is the usual combo: Shadow strike, posion sting and nova. If u die after excuting the combo, ur still going to get a kill

Due to all the posion damage: Items: 2 wraith bands, power trads (agi), yasha, HoD and buttefly or the blue scepter (cant remember name ) If u have that blue scepter, u can easly kill at least 3 heros when they r running bak after a big push (cuz they r low health) With the scepter, 108 dmg for 12 seconds plus u mite posion sting n shadow strike at least two of the three heros fleeing so u could, quite potentially, get double or triple kill

so all that would roughly equal 1296 dmg from nova, 850 from shadow strike, and 80 dmg from posion sting. u would be able to kill at least two heros, if u focused ur posion stin n shadow strike onto one hero
plues nova dmg, welll...thats a kill rite there
It all depends on how u play i guess

i very like to use this hero .