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Strategies:Krommic's Guide to playing a Worthy Weaver posted by Krommic on 2006-12-27The Weaver posted by nidoking on 2006-08-26 heavenBane's Guide to FEEDING with the Weaver posted by heavenBane on 2006-12-20 |
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Limit your discussions to Anub`seran - The Nerubian Weaver.
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never knew
For newbies, repick if Weaver is chosen.MAN! using weaver takes a whole lot of practice from his skills.Is HoT, BKB, Radiace good?I want a word with the Weaver master.Weaver's my fave AGI hero no doubt about it.
windwalk sorta imba especially if your melee fighting against him, when you goto attack he ww runs through you a coupple times so you run back or somewhere to get outta the way he attacks from behind and every time you goto attack he ww and runs through you, i tell you its annoying but it would probably be better if he didnt have that 522 movspeed in his ww
buy 1 dagon for this hero could be useful. His last skill could refresh dagon???
@dotalegend: "Does not effect cooldowns, gold, and XP." So nope, it doesn't refresh dagon.
shukuchi is very good for spammin while fleein or chasin, u cannot die with this hero, but shes not really an offensive hero and its nearly impossible for me to win with him. radiance is useful for his shukuchi skill, even if u do lose ur invisibility. i love runnin through giant fights and when im on the verge of dyin, ulti to recover and more shukuchi, then flee afta a bit. more of a harrassin than slayer. get ur watchers to patrol the rivers, centuars and secret shops
My first fave hero, no doubt about it i love this spider! Not a good newbie hero but if you become a 'master weaver' better watch out lol, Shukuchi rocks for harrassing early on or getting last hits on creeps, people say its so ultima but you can just get wards/gem and hit like twice to kill
This is an advanced hero. Hard to use, but can be incredibly effective. With Shukuchi (whatever that means) and max Germinate, you become the ultimate chaser. Then get radiance...game over.
First buy MKB then Radiance
skadi stack with her... nuff said..
Cheapest hero in the game. So imba. Max speed wind walk with fast cd and 90 dmg when you pass through units and a timewarp? How does a spider even have timewarp!?
i don't know wtf u guys are talking about... repick for newbs? not offensive? imba? ( yea ok.. maybe..) dagon? ... wow you guys are not even using this hero right... dont even post suggestions unless you've tried your builds.
BASIC BUILD FOR THIS UBER PWNAGE HERO
radiance
buriza
heart
butterfly
boots of travel
skadi
THATS IT... if you have those, you probably have already won the game... hes prettyhard to kill even with a caster, since he can always ulti and run. Plus with the skadi and heart, he has about 3.2k life, thus making him a super tank capable of combining his ulti and gaining about 4-6k life. Also does extreme amounts of dmg with the mkb buriz skadi and butterfly.
dagon...
man.. thats the ugliest nerub build ever. Jesus... BKB?.. wow.... please do not suggest crappy builds until you have tested them and it is decent.
Answering to the the jugg.
WTF??? radiance
buriza
heart
butterfly
boots of travel
skadi ....
prolly u are idiot. do u know even the cost of these items? your game will take a long to purhase this items.
1st of all this here needs a little more stamina/hp regeneration to lvl up him asap. so early game boots/bracer/ring.
If u get daggon at 10 lvl u will gank like crazy and take money to make butterfly faster. think about it and practice more with him. (also use a vanguard if game doesnt go well at low lvls).
@Greedygood - i'm no japanese to know what it really means, but i think it was derived from a technique by "the tenken"(one of kenshins enemy) in the anime samurai x, where in the tenken move at incredible speed and is almost impossible to see and whack his enemies with his sword.
u dont need BoT if u hav Shukaki. u might want the dagon for a slightly increased intel (higher mana pool/regen). id personally get these items, PT, Radiance, Dagon, Refresher, MKB and Buriza. the refresher is only there to make u survive in a big ass fight so u can spam ur ulti
Any gear to nerubian weaver without butterfly is noobish.
no one can escape a nerubian weaver...with eye of skadi sange and yasha...
...he is a terror on the map...silkwoods counter
Eye of skadi and SnY.
They both r orb effect and besides y does he need orb effect items, it only cancels his germinate attack which is very useful. SnY is not a single use other tan eye of skadi which atleast slows the enemy. SnY is especially not recomended cause shucuchi it lasts 4 seconds it has 7 sec cooldown which is only 3 seconds difference. and he walks at full speed almost 57% of the time whats the use of 10% more movement speed.
sry i made a mistake its not tan it is than
its ranged eye of skadi, it might work with geminate attack.
daviddelcampo, u r the biggest n00b of them all, u hav not left any good comments whatsoeva.
Oh, wow, you guys... Dagon on Weaver? What a waste of money. So is stupid Vanguard. Look - this hero has horrible base stats and damage and his stat growth is minimal. Which means Buriza, which bases its critical off of stats and base damage, is not put to good use. Radiance is a must for great farming ability as well as damage while harassing. And for lupeman - omg you have no idea what you are talking about. The weaver is all about killing heroes. Why do you think he has that ult?
"but shes not really an offensive hero and its nearly impossible for me to win with him." Ignoring your horrible change of genders, you are clearly clueless as to how to use this hero. Don't try it any more. Please. I'm gonna play Weaver in a few inhouses and pwn 'em all while laughing at noobs who give weaver Dagon and Refresher. Wow...
"u dont need BoT if u hav Shukaki"
TRY USING BKB AND THEN WHEN THE AVATAR HAS GONE USE THE ULTI AS A RESULT YOU WILL HAVE ANOTHER 5 SECONDS OF AVATAR YEEEAAAAHHH !!!!!!!
Correct me if im wrong but isnt eye of skadi melee non orb effect and eye of skadi range orb effect!!
besides eye of skadi for range, that would be really a pain passing past them but it wouldnt really matter about melee u don even hav to walk to them. So it should be the melee heroes whose eos skadi should be non orb effect for buying sny or other orb effect run speed items
besides mask of madness(MoM) is orb effect and eye of skadi(EoS) is orb effect. my friend tried buying both but both didnt stack. MoM had an attack like akasha's ulti and EoS had an freezing attack. Which means range EoS should be orb effect. Try playing rich mode buy EoS and MoM then say then post comment about agreeing or disagreeing with me pls(Dont juz read the item EoS here and say cause i dont beleive it, i beleive the opposite way
)
I agree with thejugg Ü
EoS ranged is not an orb effect...it is only an attack modifier....
The main thing on this char is 2 get a buriza..... fast attack = more crits,
and y in the world would u get a refresher or BKB
Most this guys skills are out-dated now...
main item - radiance
Radiance is useless, you lose invis which is your main saving grace. Best build for weaver is (in this order)
Treads, Wraith, Wraith, Wraith, Butterfly, MkB, sell wraith and get buriza, sell another wraith and get heart, sell last wraith and get cuirass.
Anyone who says he's not offensive doesn't use him right.. chasing people down is easy on this hero, especially if you sell treads late game and get BoT. In fact, just finished a game and went 16-2 with him.
u dont lose invis with radiance in the newer maps. it will just annoy people knowin that someones invis but usin radiance.
@ terrorsinz.... u got it mixed around, EoS melee is orb, EoS ranged has less orb effects.
Exelent fucking heroe... i dont care if its early,mid,or late game it keeps owning.. if ure a noob fuck off and repick untill u know how to use it.
OMG OMG OMG, HAHAHA. I love this spider (even tho I am a total arachnopobiac) haha. But w/e, to noobs this hero looks like shit, no nukes, time lapse doesnt appear to be to useful, but note I said "to noobs" I remember when I tried her when I was noob I thought she sucked. NOW I love her
. She is so pwning. Normally getting 10 kills with 0 to your self.
any 1 this nt a SPIDER
WEAVER IS A ANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ANT!!!!!!!!
ANT!!!!!!!!!
ANT!!!!!!!!!!
not a great fan of the watchers. basically sentry wards that dont disappear and can patrol. Shukuchi FTW! its impossible to flee from this hero unless u can tele or also hav 522 ms. if not, u might as well stay and fight, but weavers still goin to use shukichi though, does damage circlin the enemy without takin any hits
NC STRATEGY DUDE!!!!
It's ANT not a spider you morons...
LATE GAMER NERUBIAN FTW!
Ok, listen closely. NERUBIANS ARE SPIDERS!!
That makes Weaver here a MALE spider beastie. Now then, this is one of my favorite heroes. the best build for hs is VERY simple.
Treads, Buriza, MKB, Bfly, guinsoos, and Cuirass
Why anyone would get heart is beyond me. I mean, come on. He isn't meant to be a tank. THAT'S WHY HE HAS SHUKUCHI!!
That skill will be used for escaping more then for offense. You also need Buriza for him. Germinate attack can and will activate a Critical hit. With this exact build I went 11-0 in a 50 minute game. The noobs got tired of being PWND and left. Now then... TO THE BARD CAVE!!
Oh, and read the text written in the game for him if you wanna understand the whole Time Lapse thing.
Geminate Attack seems pointless at late game... 4 second cooldown seems too long, by lvl 25, weaver will hav shot 6 shots by the time geminate cooled down
'Geminate Attack seems pointless at late game...'
yea, i kind of agree. but if you didn't want germinate, i guess you wouldn't put the points into it. heh, 4 points just kicking around... and btw, this hero doesn't work well w/ both germinate and skadi. i tried it out last night. only the second shot of germinate becomes of the 'freezing' kind (from skadi). oh, and all shots at buildings are 'freezing' -- germinate doesn't affect buildings, so skadi is triggered instead. gotta slow those buildings down 'cause they sure move at blinding speeds. if one did not use germinate, one could then get skadi -- just can't have both.
What is the strenght of anubseran? i think
he is weak against strenght and good to int. What is use of watcher? I think the creator of dota change the skill. More powerfull skill.
geminate is orb effect though, u shouldnt be able to use EoS anyway (yes, i know EoS is a buff when ranged, but some orbs still dont work EoS)
yea, germinate is an orb effect. usually EoS stacks w/ orbs (if ranged), unless they are buffs (ie. styg des). wouldn't think germ was a buff... but i guess it is. i take back germinate being not so useful. it is pretty sweet. at lvl 4, it's every 3.5 seconds, not 4. in late game, everyone has a lot of hp, so you'll be fighting for way over 3.5 seconds. germinate is also useful for finishing heros as well.
If only time lapse refresh dagon. He'll like pawn everyone. Still I fell like weaver's imba. I think skadi wont work cuz his gemini attack doesnt stack(i think). Shikuchi damage is getting usless in late games. Time lapse suck when not in full HP. Any tips that weaver already balance? Im like a weaver noob.
Do you know guys that butterfly cancels the geminate attack? I just observed it yesterday. Anyway, butterfly gives you fast attack speed thus so it's fine without the geminate attack. I love weaver! When I random pick this hero, it's like a way win for me. Weaver can easily pawn first blood and I always do. Haven't tried skadi, i will try it and observe if it cancels geminate as well.
gud for killing and chasing enemies...does skadi will work for him??
its hilarious when u get comboed by pudge then time lapse
also u can harrasse and kill most non heavy nukers early in game
also 2nd best map reavealing hero
` Anub'seran, 1 of my fav. hero in dota.. so say's this hero is not a offense type hero. no! weaver can make triple kill, ive try it in the game.. 1st atck the thinnest enemy hero of yours and when they attack you, use the ulti and them shukuchi, then BOOM! 1 down,, its better when weaver has a buriza..
Wow a skadi wit Weaver? you know that doesnt work...
1.Treads (u dont need BoT cuz hes has skucichi or w/e)
2.meckanism
3.buriza
4.Butterfly
5.Radiance
6.HoT
aint geminate attack 3.5 seconds cooldown?
Pretty cool Ult-imagine-a melee, you're just about to die... Ult and then kill 'em all
Start her off with ROR and 2 wraith bands. You're among the best early game at denying and last hitting.
1. BOT
2. EOS
3. Buriza
4. Linken/ HOT
5. Butterfly.
6. Radiance
EOS stacks with him. It's the only orb that stacks with her.
Like i said eye of skadi doesnt work wit weaver i seen some1 get it wit him it does not do frost orb effect
Like i said eye of skadi doesnt work wit weaver i seen some1 get it wit him it does not do frost orb effect
@meatwad. Do yourself a favor by visiting this page. http://www.dotastrategy.com/forum/ftopic867.html&highlight=hero+orb+effects
EOS works on weaver.
late game if you can see him, his nothing, trust me, weaver lvl 25 kardel lvl 22 or 21 can kill him, i tried
Shukuchi - "Reduced Earth"
"This is the fastest technique ever created. It is named reduced earth because it looks like magic was used to close the distance. It moves so fast that the naked eye cannot register it. The work of the legs is so powerful that the ground gets destroyed everywhere you move."
There u go makavelian =P link below to homepage :D
http://pathofthesamurai.tripod.com/shukuchi.html
Oh, and this buety aint an ant, its a spider, when u attack with him he sometimes say "for the spider king", yeh funny if hes an ant and saying spider king, weird =P. And hes a male, or a woman with a very very very deep voice =P
"late game if you can see him, his nothing, trust me, weaver lvl 25 kardel lvl 22 or 21 can kill him, i tried "
i took down a lvl 25 kardel who had 2 hypers, 1 MoM and 1 butterfly when i was lvl 22 >.>
time lapse is such a great ulti, lina used her spell combo on me and i time lapsed and i had back to full health again
even if they can see him, shukuchi and time lapse will prevent him from dyin for a long time.
dont use radiance..
Did u ever see EOS with weaver i did look for urself it doesnt work
id like to say a complaint about how i cant pick this hero to make a strategy
for him
a big diferent
Weaver's strategy?
Weaver is the best bait!
-detect GB with watchers and ambush the enemies trying to GB you.
-he has all the escape skills needed to be the perfect bait... and the perfect follow up kill
COMBOS
1. TRAVEL
2. RADIENCE
3. BUTTERFLY
4. HEART
5. BURIZA
6. MKB
sa tingin ko mabilis anub'seran sa kanyang sukuchi at sa kanyang time laps ang talino ni magina33 nohhhhh........,,,, iimik ba kayo sa tagalog ko ay ingles itong pinag uusapan natin bakit nag tatagalog akohahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh........
like this one cuz practically 3 sec cooldown on shukuchi, that means endless chase, and geminate attack on higher levels is double 100 dam every 4 sec so
most amazing harrasser EVER! just run up geminate, shukuchi behind the enemy hit hit hit! thats like at least 6 hits + shukuchi = gg enemy. def 1 of my fav heros.
eye of skadi does work for this hero. its only the geminate attack that gains the cold attack.
3.5 second cooldown for geminate
so.. which is the best build for this hero? is butterfly good for it?
My build for this hero:
1)Power Thread
2)Linken Sphere's
3)X2 MKB
4)Butterfly
5)Heart Of Tarassque
only one yhing................
NERUBIAN RULEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Nerubian Weaver is my favourite Hero
He is just great in every part of the game and that's what makes him own ^^
weaver is really da best
i love this char since i played dota
i thought this hero suckz but it owned
me a lot^^ so co0o0o0o0oL
weaver owns when he/she has the ff items
1.travel
2.radiance
3.mkb
4.cuirass
5.linken's
6.divine
c0o0o0o0oL]
alwayzzzz use this items
when playing with my friends or in battlenet or GG-client
question guyz does double mkb really works???I'm very want to learn more about weaver
I agree archangel.Finn
seran owns in every game when it is in the god hands like me LOVE weaver
so is everyone gonna answer me in my question????
hehehe...............
the weaver is the best hero for me its speed can be match by other heroes it can chase anything ....
i many heroes fear this hero^_^
i think for me this heroes build
is:
1.power treads
2.sange and yasha
3.raidiance
4.butterfly
5.cultrass
6.divine^^
^_^ ty
DID u know that the weaver could use eye.of.skadi???
just wondering..
I think my friend tried it and he says that only the first attack has slow then it becomes normal ,even thou its not an orb effect 4 ranged hero but maybe some 1 can check and let us know. : )
I tried it but I'm a little confused ,I fought roshan and he was always slowed but when i attacked normal creeps it would be random ,sometimes they would be slowed and sometimes their were not,can someone help me figure this out ,maybe I did something wrong(if anything its a bug). thnx
lets see if i can expalin this...weavers first attack the one that goes right before the second attack skill will not have skadi because that is an orb however the second atack will have the frost ability. also while the second attack ability is on cool down all ur attacks will have frost.Another thing i noticed is that his passive skill will not activate if weaver auto acquires a target, you have to manually tell weaver to attack the unit in order for the skill to activate this makes last hitting/harrasing a lot easier
I love this little guy...spider...ant!?
If you are looking for a hero to solo against sum1 like luna/crixalis/crystal maiden and even sven, this is the dude for the job! Respect to the underdog that is starting to own on servers world wide!!
Thanks Master_Chilin for the explanation
Back off beginners, you're not for this hero..
well, neither am I.. hahaha
naga siren owns nerubian weaver....with her net + image combo...infact most wwers...worst enemy is naga....
There r so many coments that im aint readin them all. But so far i had read so many strange items build for nerubian... he is not good at farmin thats why i focus on hero kill this is what i recomend to get. BoT, 2x Crystallis, Hyperstone. If you can get that your ok... why 2xcrystallis well to increase your chance of criticalm. Weaver is definetly a deadly hero... if u know how 2 play him
What the hell?? why so many ppl call weaver as a "she" is it a "she"????
@ Lupeman
Weaver not an offensive hero?? What do you think he is ? A fucking tank ? U are a big noob. Don't post things like : You can flee with sukuchi and reverse time with time lapse.. We all know that you NOOB
Butterfly and 2x Buriza is all you need to own. When you use geminate on a crit both hits are critical, makes for some serious dmg.
cool cockroach
I think now shukuchi increases damage per level.
Lvl 1=90 dmg
Lvl 2=100 dmg
Lvl 3=110 dmg
Lvl 4=120 dmg
umm yeah it INCREASES
hey guys you dont really know how to use waever..at early part of the game this should u buy on weaver.. ring boots 2 bracer if u want him to be tough or 2 wraith if u want if to attack faster then if you have enough money buy mkb or vanguard if you have died 3times..then if you have this item mkb treads and vanguard buy buriza or butterfly u will see how killer type he is..also use the wards to unt down remember weaver is a hunter in dota because shukuchi and his wards it is also hard to kill weaver because he almost have two life in his time lapse u don need a radiance in him only make a critical and a bash surely weaver is a killer type.
hey guys you dont really know how to use waever..at early part of the game this should u buy on weaver.. ring boots 2 bracer if u want him to be tough or 2 wraith if u want if to attack faster then if you have enough money buy mkb or vanguard if you have died 3times..then if you have this item mkb treads and vanguard buy buriza or butterfly u will see how killer type he is..also use the wards to unt down remember weaver is a hunter in dota because shukuchi and his wards it is also hard to kill weaver because he almost have two life in his time lapse u don need a radiance in him only make a critical and a bash surely weaver is a killer type.
@ killer um what type of ring regen protection health plz elaborate. and mkb and buriza are pretty much the way most ppl play him so idk what ur talking about.....
hey guys you dont really know how to use waever..at early part of the game this should u buy on weaver.. ring boots 2 bracer if u want him to be tough or 2 wraith if u want if to attack faster then if you have enough money buy mkb or vanguard if you have died 3times..then if you have this item mkb treads and vanguard buy buriza or butterfly u will see how killer type he is..also use the wards to unt down remember weaver is a hunter in dota because shukuchi and his wards it is also hard to kill weaver because he almost have two life in his time lapse u don need a radiance in him only make a critical and a bash surely weaver is a killer type.
ring of regen..yah i know it sounds like ordinary but having a bash and a critical while weaver is throwing a two shot is an X factor
but it's still up to the character your against with if what you want to build up..but for me aven for an in or strength or agi thats the best weapon i have.you dont also need an radiance on weaver because they will know weaver is beside them shukuchi have 2 purposes for hunting down or for escape..
ring of regen..yah i know it sounds like ordinary but having a bash and a critical while weaver is throwing a two shot is an X factor
but it's still up to the character your against with if what you want to build up..but for me aven for an in or strength or agi thats the best weapon i have.you dont also need an radiance on weaver because they will know weaver is beside them shukuchi have 2 purposes for hunting down or for escape..
treads, vanguard (for tower dives early game), mass wraiths, mkb, radience... should be gg... if you die with him your gay... i mean time lapse? shukuchi?... only doom can beat you rofl... i agreee with noobs repicking, he requirz alotta skill and reflexes
yeah.... you know those ants and their WEBS... if you think he's an ant because you took 5th grade biology and counted his legs, maybe you forgot that ants have 2 eyes and pincers?
hiya all. to set the record straight weaver can be usd in may different ways... so dont be quick to rule ouit guides.. people have different ways to use him/her which work for htem... but the main this about this assassin is to spam the "Shukuchi"
but my main build for a aggresive pk.. is;
-Treads
-Buriza
-Dagon
-Butterfly(just for evasion)
-yasha(only)
=then at late game=
-Treads
-Buriza
-Scardi
-Buttlerfly
-Radiance
this is a great pk build and will ensure u get lots of kills but still get away from ganks...
(note do not tank with him as u may find u have been set up, and waste your "Time lapse")
@Lupeman
You sir, are a bonafied RETARD. You say that geminate is useless late game, when its at its full potential. Geminate is basicly a free enchant totem with no cast time every 4 seconds. Doubles your attack damage and at the speed your shooting, its generally a triple shot. Geminate is by far IMBA over all, the ability to use a double damage skill for free alone is great, but it costs no mana and has the lowest recharge compared to all other hero attack buffs such as gods strength and enchant totem.
favourite agi hero godlike first time with him
my build:
powertread
radiance
butterfly
eye of skadi....yes it stacks but not completely
burriza
Overpowered skills. With few words killing machine.Very hard hero to use but if you know how to do that ... GODLIKE ...
my item build
1)PT
2)Ring of Basilius
3)2 bracers(sold later)
4)Buriza
5)Butterfly
6)Hyperstone
7)HoT or Linkens sphere(Linkens sphere better for me)
I know that these are very expensive items but if you made them in a game ... gg
Bad enemies: Spiritbreaker, Darkterror, Nerubian assasin
Begin your first kill with shukuchi and finish it with it.
I suggest to never use nerubian weaver unless you know how to use it.
Hey you TwinsBladesHero...
you wanna to have 1 vs on 1 with me???
ask your daddy to come with you...
This hero is so killer,,, he can kill darkterror and barathrum... stupid ass...
when you feel darkterror will chrono, directly press the C (Shukuchi) so that 4 seconds darkterror is blind... That means he cannot attack you...
That's all...
well he isn't that good against permabasher since he has low HP....so better be careful when going against void, troll, slitherean, etc.. bashing heroes.
Ownage build
2x Basher
PT
Buriza
Vanguard or replace HOT
MKB
whoah!!! this ant is greaaat!!!! i love her
It is very very very very good
one of my favorite agi heros, he pwns face
lol, you can solo for levels but farm with another hero to actually properly farm lol. Take all creep kills. Farm for TREADS, then RADIANCE, thenn gg from then BURIZA! maybe BUTTERFLY or another BURIZA.
Happy Weaving (wtf is with bashers? no need?, i hope not..)
OK 1st of all- The weaver is MALE NOT FEMALE
2nd- Skadi does work with geminate, but it only triggers on the geminate 2nd attack
3rd- Feedback also works with geminate, like skadi triggering only on the 2nd attack, although diff blade or manta are still shitty items for him
4th- Wraith bands are better than bracers, because they're cheaper, and you shouldnt need large amounts of extra Hp to survive with Anub'Seran
5th- watchers can be very effective, when patrolled in the correct way around the map
6th- there are many unique and powerful builds for the weaver- You should generally use a pure dmg item (Radiance, Mkb, Butterfly) and treads to start with
7th- multiple Mkbs on a hero give a diminishive stack ( the increase gets smaller for every copy of the item)
8th- you can have items with orb effects like Sange(and Yasha) and still have the geminate as the dominant orb by learning it AFTER you have purchased said item
---- Big Post with lots of info on weaver
Hope all this helps
You dont need travel.Because of Shukuchi
PT
Radiance
HoT
Butterfly
Buriza
Butterfly
Power Treads
Radiance
Eye of Skadi
MKB or Butterfly
If you play with noobs you buy divine
omg noob y would u get a orb effect item it wouldn stack. This hero is hard to use for noob since u need to be fast on ur finger movement... cause the ult can be a help 4u or a death line since u have to predict when to use.
arite here an item for Weaver
for great quick kill hero:
early game:
-bracer
-and ancient tango
in this early game u should head out any lane... and harash not to much since u can die easy at this time.
at lvl 6-more just try not to die... u go bak and get boots, and glove and if u have anyspare money get wraith band.
Done now head out and earn ur self more money help ur team mate and GG
and after a while finish ur item by getting
-boots of elvenkin
- upgrade to tread
-and try to get another wraith band for now.
Now u got 4 item 2slot left for now. or maybe 1 slot left if u didn use ancient.
Mid game where gank started
item you try to get before lvl 17 or more is:
-Radience~ important cause u need to farm fast and kill creep and noob hero.
-Vanguard~ i know it sound noob but block 35dmg every few second can save ur ass alot
now ur hero should be finish soon.
Late gaming:
sell your bracet since u might need space for item.
-hyperstone~ wat..u might ask. well this hero need atk speed for quick kill the faster the atk the crazier ur but leave it wit only one hyperstone ok.
-MKB~now Mkb would be easy for u to get as long ur not a noob and get money quick with radience. with ur skill Gemine atk plus Hyperstone and radience u got a 0.1second stunner fast atk hero. this will piss people off since they stop and move stop and move.
so more ova get:
Thread
2wraith band
radience
hyperstone
MKB
now you have
HYPER KILLING SPIDER BITCH!!!
now u can one on one anyone or support anyone.
good way of vsing meele is atk them so fast that they slow down abit as soon as they close to you use skunchi walk pass them the opposite and atk and when they turn around and try to atk u skunchi again they will be so piss.
and thats a good skill to use in one on one
for the ganking u might need help from friend cause skunchi wont stand a change vsing 3 or more high dmg hero. DOUBLE KILL can be obtain!!!
arite now u know that skunchi skill of technique but if the game is still not ova
sell your wraith band (1)
and get a Buriza
~pyu~ now is GG
and if u kill rosan sell ur other wrait band and get aiges. lol any comment just tell me i might help. if u think this build suk then u must be a noob cause noob usally say is imposible to get all those item.. but if u think u got wat it take to use THIS hero money is not a problem!!!
Hope you like this build GG then^^ oh u can vs pudge easily u might take some dmg but is nothing cause his only a big bloop of meat~~
~~pyu~~ sry i forget to tell you wat to do wit the vanguard is up2 u sell it to get faster in ur item building or keep it which mean selling the wraith band plus u wont hav anymore space now for aiges (not like u needed that much but still) vangurad can regen while also blocking. yep thats it i think if i miss anything or u don understan wat i said tell me ill try to make it simpler
this hero rocks!
Do you guys think a good Early game set up for the Weaver is
-RoB
-3x Wraith Bands
-Blades of Attack
-Broadsword
That way you can have about +33 damage and some good beginning stats. Your also on your way to getting a Crystalis and then of coarse a Buriza. What do you think?
i think the main item 4 weaver is buriza
the weaver's geminate attack is become very strong skill if combinated with buriza.
the double attack, n the critical
its sound like this:
2 (from geminate) x 2x critical (from buriza) = 4x critical!!!!!
but i think the chance is smaller than b4
5-10% chance (i don't know the real number for it bcoz i'm not good in math.. hehe..) for the 4x crit, n 15% chance for the normal critical from buriza
@drew. lvl4 geminate attack's cooldown is 2,5sec
EoS doesn't stack. I've tried... At some time, weaverwill attack with skadi (geminate attack can't be activated), and in the other time he will attack with geminate attack (no frost attack), buy Stygian Desolator results with the same. I've tried to buy that 2 items. 4 this guy, I buy:
1. Treads
2. Vanguard
3. BDK
4. Butterfly
5. MKB
6. Cuirass/HoT
my item build for weaver
(1). power treads (AGI)
(2). radiance
(3). HoD
(4). buriza-do kyanon
(5). assault cuirass
(6). divine rapier
hey!! lupeman is a genius. he allways post a great comment
hide7
agree, hes really smart!!!!!!
vanguard
linken
gives u time to lapse before u die
radiance
tread
bfly or mkb if u have the money $
my build> 2 bracers
power treads
buriza
scady (it will only fire once every 3.5 sec but works with third spell)gives hp and agility and slows oponents
This hero really gets killed by direct damage; I would get STR Power Treads, Hood of Defiance, and the assorted other items.
ok guys the last game i played the weaver i owned.
19-3 was the score..
my build was
treads
MKB
Butterfly
Skadi
Lichens
Agis
i got all the items by end of the game and was unkillable(specialy w/ agis)
i love weaver
posted by FlaminIce27
Great defensive and chasing build
Vanguard
Treads
B-Fly
Shiva's Guard
really really micro heavy
just to clarify, nerubian weaver can use Eye of skadi to work everytime, geminate must be in cooldown and it must be autoattack, once its out of cooldown, u just autoattack normally without frost attack. (geminate doesnt proc unless u manually attack a hero)
My item build order:
2x bracer or 2 wraith bands
boots
crystalis
demon edge
upgrade into buriza
2 x ulti orbs
point booster
upgrade into EoS
Upgrade boots into Treads (Agi)
Eaglehorn, Quarterstaff into Butterfly
Remaining items to replace 2x bracer/wraith bands: any high damage items
MKB, Radiance, Another Buriza, Another Butterfly, ...etc...
Final Item Build:
EoS
Butterfly
Buriza
PT
High Dmg Item
High Dmg Item
My late game item build.
1.power treads
2.radiance
3.butterfly
4.monkey king bar
5.eye of skadi
6.buriza-do kyanon
update
geminate attack now 6 sec/5 sec/4 sec/2.5 sec
wot would happen if u had refrsher orb nd u ahd low health nd u ultied then did refresh nd did ulti again?? would u go bak to wen u had low health and go bak b4 u had used refresher orb?? sum1 try nd nd tell me plz lol
isnt a buriza good for this guy?
What should I type to delegate the watcher's control to my allies???
just go up to the top of the screen, hit allies, check who you want under "give control" or w/e it says, then click accept. hope this helps! :)
With Orchid, i think this hero got raped...
Even the new Cooldown on Timelapse doesn't help me.
Every weak shit Hero i could easily take out before Orchid, can now kill me without effort.
Propher for exemple - previously, he didn't have much to get me with.
But with the very long silence on orchid, + its Damage amplify, he can easily kill me when he gets to trap me.
i would say, the best pub hero for me.
usually get this items in order
Vanguard
Pt(str)
Wraith
Wraith
Scroll
MKB/bfly/radiance
add BKB/linken against disables
lol this sudes good as.
i wos owning with 3 wraith bands,
pt on str, a quatre staff nd a bottle lolage
Man, I watched replay where it took a whole team to take down weaver.
My build (In order):
1.Vanguard
2.HoD
3.Radiance
4.BoT
5.Buriza
6.Skadi
It sucks that Skadi doesn't fully stack with geminate attack. Skadi isn't an orb effect when ranged but its still an attack modifier. I think this should be fixed
yeah but... it's still a gud item for her... the stats and all.
IMO , this is the best hero in DotA , my build :
1. Treads
2. Buriza
3. MKB
4. Cuirass
5. Tarasque
6. Tarasque
You need 2x Tarasque bcoz he is low in hp and the dmg is huge , with this build you will own 100% , BEYOND GODLIKE ! try it
ant, right? theres a subcategory of ants called nerubians? no didnt think so
anub'seran =
a nub's era n
cguro pwd sknea:
quiraz
treads
radiance
SnY/skadi
tarask
buterfly
this is what i get for this hero
ring of b(for regen & +3 armor for early game)
2-3 wraiths(sell later if needed)
Treads
Radiance
Heart
Butterfly(if time allows)
and someone please let me know if bkb works for this bamf. avatar >> after its done timelapse >> back to avatar?
this is what i get for this hero
ring of b(for regen & +3 armor for early game)
2-3 wraiths(sell later if needed)
Treads
Radiance
Heart
Butterfly(if time allows)
and someone please let me know if bkb works for this bamf. avatar >> after its done timelapse >> back to avatar?
Just owned a game totally with this dmg oriented build. I dont think you need so much HP with Shukuchi and Time Lapse, also you get quite a bit of armor with all the agility.
1 2 Wraithbands,
This brings up your HP and gives some dmg
2 Threads
Self explanatory
3 MKB
The MKB proc is badass with Geminate Attack, also gives some good dmg.
Begin with 2 Javelins as the procc on those are good.
4 Buriza, his dmg is too low in the begining to make most use of it.
5 Butterfly
Self explanatory
I like how people say she's a spider. Study some biology before you come with silly comments like that.
Here's a lesson for you guys:
Spiders have four pairs of legs.
Ants have three pairs.
How many does Weaver have? ... exactly.
And she isn't even built like a spider.
Compare her to Brood.
Spiders don't have sectioned bodies like ants have. Hope this cleared things up.
damn this really one the coolest harassing hero ive bin used.. haha power treads+basilius+2wraiths sa simula lang Ok na.. tapos sunod mo BKB at bUTTerfly. no nid taras tapos na laban pag na complete mo tung 2..
weaver is good..
my build for her is..
2 bracers
treads in agi
then radi
then buriza..
by then ur ownin...
but as said earlier..if u don know ow to play plz don give a try also..first practice then come..n she will rock
Lol...my friends hate the weaver but I love him...Seriously if u have ur ulti all u have to do against strong opponents is wait for there heavy nukke or ulti and then u use ur ulti...slap em around abit with ur Geminate and when they run just use Sukuchi to finish em...Just remember keep ur noots of tread...THEY HELP U ALOT
Luv this hero... 1 of the best escapist
Free permanent ward that can patrol around, A WW skill and an ulti that Removes damage!!!! For him, I'll make a harass build.
1. 2 wraiths
2. power threads
3. MKB (against thos TP runners)
4. Skadi/radiance (slow/damage while chasing)
That's all you'll need actually... time lapse would be useful if u dun die after being nuked! HoT/vanguard could be considered...
actually, come to think of it, nw's ulti is somewhat the same as skeleton king's ulti...reincarnation LOL
hmmm..maybe radiance MKB butterfly and power threads should do the job
the best way 2 use this hero is 2 first buy
-2 wraithbands
-power treads agi
-dagon
-MKB or dagon 5 then MKB
with dagon just use sukucchi 2 enemy attack until health red when he runs sukucchi then dagon. . .
What do you thing about this item build:
1.Vanguard
2.Treads (first str then agi)
3.mkb
4.skadi
5.buriza
6.bfly
7.vanguard -> HoT
More like a spam of items...
Boots
Radiance
Bracer
Bracer
Bottle
Bfly/HoT
my build:sAnge yasha,radiance,bterfly,mjolnir,refresher and arcane..
the items that weaver needs:
1.Power treads
2.monkey king bar
3.monkey king bar
4.Burizza
5.Butterfly
6.Radiance
@JonOloth
OMG you're OH-SO-PRO using 3 orbs to this hero with actual has it's own orb.
Hard hero to use. You cant just buy some AGI items and pwn like you can with Drow. Takes some user skill
I get
2-3 Wraiths
Power Treads (AGI)
MKB
Butterfly
game is usually over by now.
Hard hero to use. You cant just buy some AGI items and pwn like you can with Drow. Takes some user skill
I get
2-3 Wraiths
Power Treads (AGI)
MKB
Butterfly
game is usually over by now.
I was in a lane with this guy it was me and a partner against weaver(solo) he was pissing the hell out of us with that shukuchi and even pawned us a couple of times, but we didnt have any disabling moves though so......
