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Strategies:The Rock posted by hardhead1223 on 2006-10-01CF[X]'s Bradwarden posted by Counter_Force[X] on 2008-06-02 |
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Limit your discussions to Bradwarden - The Centaur Warchief.
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definitely one of my best heros...
2 blade mail + 3rd skill= lots of return damage!!!
go with a radiance for damage and for gold farming
also try putting on trasque for added strength and hP...do'nt 4rget a vanguard coz of his really low mana regen and mana pool...
powerful tank hero hmm... nice strength.
Sven would have a really hard time killing him...
Panda is better =]
one of my first time heros and tell you what i ooowwwwnnneeeedddd!!!!!!!!
BoT and 5 HoT. have fun tryin to kill this hero at lvl 25.
anyone with five hearts would be like that dude...
Panda or other melee heroes dont really have a good chance to this guy. Only guy i've seen match up was Axe, for his additional armor and helix.
the 2 blademail strat is for anti melee tanking. Other wise he can go blink dagger and hp items for killing casters and farming creeps.
Second greatest melee tanker.
One of the only true imbalanced heroes, in my opinion, though he gets less effective in larger games.
i prefer bloodseeker, but panda wouldnt stand a chance against this guy late game
Not saying that he is bad, but, not one of my top 5's. He is a good overall char., but i really think that his melee dmg return should be higher. Also, does his double edged deal the same amount of dmg to him as he does to others. And, drew, i think that you have got the stats wrong for return. I think its 15,30,45,60
that third sentence of my comment was a question
this hero with blademails will rule... ^_^
I love this hero.....
Centaur is beast mode. i usually get vanguard first. Once you get vanguard you will be a farming machine. If there are a lot of spell casters playing i then go for hood of defience. Thats +16 regen not to mention 30% spell reduction on a tank. My next item is always a heart and then another.By now you have w/ your Ultimate +106 strength and you have around 4500 hp. You are your teams tank and losing is quite difficult. Unless your team sux.
Centaur is beast mode. i usually get vanguard first. Once you get vanguard you will be a farming machine. If there are a lot of spell casters playing i then go for hood of defience. Thats +16 regen not to mention 30% spell reduction on a tank. My next item is always a heart and then another.By now you have w/ your Ultimate +106 strength and you have around 4500 hp with +38 hp a sec regen. You are your teams tank and losing is quite difficult. Unless your team sux.
you really need kelens to kill runaway heroes
crazy high strength... base damage is disgustin!
Wow.. This hero... I think the only hero that could be a better tank then Sentaur is a fed Pudge and even then, damn. You'd have to feed him ALOT. Honestly though, I've never tried the centaur. I think I will today. Also, I like Battle fury for him. Good for farming to the hearts.
my build.... power treads, blademails or vanguards (then sell before HoT), battlefury, HoT or two, buriza, rapier. with the high HP and high regen, who needs aegis?
HoD AND Vanguard rule on this Guy
My build:
-Treads
-Kelen's
-Satanic!!!
-HoT
-BKB(optional)
-Hood of Defiance (optional)
tide hunter is probably a better tank than this guy
my build is:
Boots Of Travel
Satanic
Manta Style
Assualt
Radiance
HOD/Hearts Depending on the enemy hero
if u get a single HoT, he cant be taken down anymore, takes like 10 seconds to take him down, assumin he is not movin
hey, what do you think is the best hero to oppose bradwarden???
Necrolyte ultimate is a very annoying against Bradwarden. It can kill him when his life is at half, usually dealing more than 1k damage in a single blow.
Hood of Defiance and Black King Bar first, leave boots and anything else for later.
REFRESHER ORB FOR HIS ULT ROCKS!!!!!!
Haha juz messin'
This hero is cooler than i thought!.....
So pro!!!
my build is:
vanguard
battle fury
lothars edge
boots of travel
HoT
assualt cuirass
this build is realy good for kiling and tanking. go invis then use hoof stomp and double edge, hard 2 survie. sell vanguard for HoT if game drags on.
with melee tank heroes, I just itemed Bradwarden with vanguards and blademails... hehehe
no match melee heroes such barathrum, antimage,.....
This is a very situational item build, against intel mainly:
Boots of Travel
Radiance
Hood of Defiance
Vanguard
Vanguard
Heart
I just ran into the creeps and let them hit me, last hitting when possible earnt me 367 creep kills :)
im just wondering when i fought centaur he become double while his item is just battlefury and treads
i believe dagger is a must item for bradwarden with hyperstone/curias + satanic. Sneak attack first then stun, chop, chop, chop, chop, chop (4 chops within 2.75 sec ouch!!! plus satanic's lifesteal.. arrrgh!!).. trying to escape?? blink then chop, chop then double edge (400 damage at level 4).. pew!!! that was easy pawn!! Bradwarden is my coolest hero. Nobody beats me on our cafe using brad with blink..
Brad cant kill well without dagger
Hey Could any1 tell me if this build for Brad is right or not!!
Heart
Radiance
Power Treads
Blademail
Heart
Battle Fury
And please temme any mroe suggestions cause its one of da best heros in DOTA
IRYO90- I lost 1v1 to huskar who had 3 hearts and a cuirais... brutal. Anyone know how to counter this btw?
this guy is crazy, i couldnt touch him with viper, i am dead with him more than half health. His last skill is like an item: adding 36dmg and hp regen and 684 hp
sorry for double post, but i tottally agree with lupeman
@dacoofo247
lol?
This guy is super buff, especially with fortitude, but i think the only heroes who could survive him would be N'aix and Arachnia because they are actually way too fast for his stomp and with devour and arachnia's ult, more life is drained than damage returned from return.
A hero to counter this tank??? Harbringer?
gains 2829 life at lvl 25 and thats without any strength items
an easy kill in 3 on 3 matches.. so as on 1 on 1.. just need to bring him down early and quick..
He's an easy pick in early.. just like a food or prey for panda in early game
he's annoying. I use balanar and my friend always get a blademail.. *arggghhhh!!!!*
Does HoD decrease the damage from his double edge?
i think mortred can't hurt him when he has 2 blade mails + heart.
my item for this hero is
1 and 2. blade mail
3.battle fury
4.basher
5.HoT
6.treads
is my item correct?
can any one come up with an item build for bradwarden against faceless void?
Will blink dagger be gud enough to escape voids chronosphere and bash?!?!
1.Power Treads
2.HOT
3.Battle Fury
4.Satanic
5.Radiance
6.HOT or MKB
The only reason you would get blade mail is if you are up against alot of str and agi heros, if there are more than 2 int heros it is pretty pointless.
1.Power Treads
2.HOT
3.Battle Fury
4.Satanic
5.Radiance
6.HOT or MKB
The only reason you would get blade mail is if you are up against alot of str and agi heros, if there are more than 2 int heros it is pretty pointless.
man u guys need a dagger for brad
Is Lothars ok??
Counter helix or return damage??
u need at least 2 battlefurys, havin just the one doesnt splash enough.
return is so gay, it returns ranged heroes as well.
S&Y on Centaur??? What do you think
SnY could work on Centuar... but he wouldnt benefit that greatly from it though. only a minor bonus.
this hero is kinda imba,
n can someone pls tell me wat hero is good against him?
i usually use tiny 4 the dmg,
but on a 5on5 game i find it hard
2 get the items needed.
i m kinda noob so pls teach me.
how about 5 blademail + Bot? cost only 11550! 100% damaged return + 50 damage = u hit him just like u hit yourself!!
Blademails work just for melee opponents and if there are heroes like kardel, razor or drow ranger it is impossible to own with 5 blademails
i don't much like blademail,,coz it's only works for the melee attackers,,i love thi hero,but i hate this hero when someone using "Rontund'jere",,his ulti s very SUCKS,but brad is one of my best
i like
5 blaid mails? thats stupid! spent so much money and slots only for melee oponents! they ill just dont face u, and u ill b freahs meat to nukers and range heroes..
i feel so safe when centaur is on my team.. i swear i cant recall the last time a team has lost and had centaur on them.. i think the only guy who can stand a chance against centaur in 1 v 1 would be rexxar if u got lifesteal bashers and BDK (and platemail if u can afford).. rexxar's beast rage will do the rest
my above comment was for slQyer_pro by the way.. hope that helps
2x hearts
travel
dagger
cruiass
divine rapier
who dares die!!!
hahaha! sorry 5 blade mails cant stack since maximum chances are only at 85 or 82 tops... 3 maybe... but 5? i doubt it... nice one though
does life steal make him tougher?
The Centaur Warchief is the strongest melee hero in the game .1vs1 can't bring him dawn
i saw sum1 using him with mask of madness,2 hearts,PT's,kelens,and a basher and he owned....he is gosu btw^^
1 of the strongest hero with Davion knight...
If Davion is at your side their dead
Centaur is good on any team. With him your tanking problems are out the window. A great asset to have on your side of course.
go with vanguard coz CW is only a Great Tanker.then buy heart n dagger.
just buy six boots( dats equivalent to 10 foots [ 6 boots + 4 foot of centaur ] ) he has an incredibly 1000 movement speed.lol!
super pusher build against agi and strength heroes
treads (str)
hood of defiance
manta
vlad
heart
heart
skill build
stun
return
stat
get double edge last.
when ur done ur hp will be around 5k...just imagine 3 centaurs running to u...dont worry about kills...because what u just do is wait for them to get to u then manta then stomp then mana burn and vlad will kick in...and they wont be able to use their skills...since u have hood of defiance u dont have to worry about magic attacks much and also u have return damage for melee players and tons of hp to spare...and u got armor up...no hero can stop u with this...not unless they gank u...or maphack
i can kill this hero for only 3 seconds using techies... he can't stand a chance!!!
just kidding...!!! lol!!!
@nowhereman_zato
just buy six boots( dats equivalent to 10 foots [ 6 boots + 4 foot of centaur ] ) he has an incredibly 1000 movement speed.lol!?????????
hahahahaha your absolutely wrong
6 boots= 300+600 movement speed of centaur warship because of his 4 legs=900 movement speed. you can run the wol map with only approximately 2-3 mins nyahahahahaha im just kidding hahahahaha
Centaur can,t be defeated so easily. HE is ultimate hero. If we get a Dagon we can so damage of 1050 in a second.stomp 250 and stun+ Dagon 400+double edge 400=1050.
Think about it. He is Great
think about this...1 helm of dominator+3 hearts+very high armor= very hard to kill hero (Centaur)
The one and the only
You gotta tank creeps solos to own people. boots is gr8 lvl 1-8, then rush Reaver/HoT like i did today. (Got FB and 2 kills b4 first death) So rush HoT then head for Blink Dagger or Helm of Dominator. MoM gd also because of increased ASPD. With Hot, BD, Life-steal, go for your choice of Satanic or Blade mail. 3rd skill is gr8 with Life steal.
Happy horsing
i think this hero can't chase fast heroes......like balanar....spiritbreaker...and if they survive his assault..stun + 2x edge....
well this guy can just say WTF???
i never use blink dagger and still am able to kill fast heroes like balanar and spritbreaker.
hard to kill in the begning but late game easy.
but ur items decide to kill or to just chase.
@justinphua
the items u r telling are very expensive. mabey a build for very very long game. I have never played such long game.
WTF??? you cant sui with him anymore??? gayyy!!
omw. i'm sure you can suicide?
Wtf happened?
A new versions not out is there?
*I've been away 4 a week on holiday...*
try 4 hearts and a satanic..ull never go home for anything..
does 3 furies stack??
si jordan warag bradwarden!!!!!!
does his ult add +12, +24, +36 respectively
or do they accumulate?
what i mean is will lvl 2 of ult add 36 str and lvl 3 add 72?
Does not accumulate. Each lvl of the ult adds the amount said.
lvl 1 +12
lvl 2 +24
lvl 3 +36
this guy is so annoying when insane AI uses him this is what they do at late game: blink,stomp,cleave,hammer,hammer,dead
when ur opponent is ranged or somethin equip this with 3-4 helm of iron will 4 def. and regen that hero will only tickle u
His life can go up to 9kplus
damn so many strength it pawns you
i suggest butterfly, satanic, buriza, quirass, treads, mkb...try this it will make him godlike, even sven can't kill him..its tested
HOT
HOT
Satanic
Battle Fury
Battle Fury
BOT
My build:
Power treads
HoT
Radiance
Vlad's
Blink dagger
2nd HoT
hard 2 defeat... imba ulti... keep killing him early game is very important but will only slow down him he's still tough mid-late game
Treads
Battlefury
Satanic
Cuirass
HoT
Has anybody tried putting 4 helm of iron will on this guy? My cousin told me just make one helm a dominator(then satanic) and then get blink and of course PT. Then all you need is your 3rd skill.
2 heart of tarrasque in lvl 16 surely would make his hp 8500.
use his 2nd skill when ur gonna die DENY urself!!!!
he needs 6 HoTs to have about 8k hp at lvl 25
pudge's strength is more if his last skill is Great Fortitude cause he has more str gain and more base str
I killed him with panda harass harass primal split cyclone hurl boulder the hitting of the pandas drain his life then when he runs I pushed his base that time and then meets the creeps that blocked him and I got the last hit bwahahaha
sven can kill him in 1 on 1 combat with satanic, hot , hot, vlads ,pt , bfury when ur dying death pact a creep life regained
and centaur's dead
awesome hero. best in the game!
for 2 on 2
my build
1. 1&2 2helm of iron will
2. powertreds
3. satanic
4. rediance
5. blink for killing type trust for pushing type
3on3 it defends how 2counter the enemy heroes...
try my build... its efective promise...
Boots
1or2 bracers
Radiance
HotD
BoT
HoT...gg
.Blade Mail
.Blade Mail
.Blade Mail
.H o t
.H o t
.Satanic
.pt
(for melee faggots such as ursa =0) )
.Kelens
.pt
.HoD
.BKB
.Satanic
.Cuirass
(for sissy high damage ranged heroes such as Lion =0) )
coolest hero i ever used!!!
here is my build:
tarasquex2
treads(str)
battlefury
kelens
Satanic
no need for a blademail for melee opponents if you have this items!!!
he can't be defeated on a 1 on 5 battle with this things..!
my first items here in these massive tanker is 4 helm of iron wheels ans treads im sure you can tank a tower with youself im also sure you'll rule the whole field
my first items here in these massive tanker is 4 helm of iron wheels ans treads im sure you can tank a tower with youself im also sure you'll rule the whole field
this guy's very nice
Bradwarden-The Centaur Warchief
Centaur has a great base damage
in 2v2 in sentinel(team pick)
i prefer to use centaur n vengful
and our enemy was viper n doom
this is my item in centaur
1.mekanism(for heal if vengful is dommed)
2.Raidance(don't go w/heart frist because centaur is the killer not tank)
3.HoT(for higher HP)
4.BoT
5.Stanic(lifesteal)
6.Cruirass
then the game was GG!!
don't prioritize the second skill
My build is
Heart
Heart
Heart
Heart
Travel
Santic
For me i will fight with the monster than stun him than when he is below 300~350 (that means red hp)Double Edge him .
A sure die strategy
centaur is the best hero in the game by far
a very very cool hero
this hero will tank all5 heroes when
you have proper items
Heart of Tarrasque
Heart of Tarrasque
Heart of Tarrasque
The Butterfly
Satanic
you can pawn them all 5 of them
but when all most all of them are stunner you will get a hard time killing them
Boots of Travel
amazing tsnker. with 2 blademail and radiance, i could kill viod just by getting him to hit me. (his ulti's really annoying with other heores)
depends on who you're up agains, this could be the greatest tanker in the game. If the opposing team is mostly melee, get some blade mails and a satanic. if they're ranged, you'll nedd hot's and a wind walk. Once you have satanic or HOt, armlet of mordiggian FTW. But overall, if you're up against a lot of rangers, levi or pudge would probably be beter
depends on who you're up agains, this could be the greatest tanker in the game. If the opposing team is mostly melee, get some blade mails and a satanic. if they're ranged, you'll nedd hot's and a wind walk. Once you have satanic or HOt, armlet of mordiggian FTW. But overall, if you're up against a lot of rangers, levi or pudge would probably be beter
my build 4 this hero is
- Heart of Tarrassque
- Heart of Tarrassque
- Power Threads
- Assault Quiras
- Eye of Skadi
- Battle Fury
radiance,MoM/satanic,travel,heart,then just fill hi u with helm of iron will = GG^^
this is my build to this hero.............
*2 helm of iron will
*radiance
*2 traque
*satanic
this is totally wicked build to this hero.........
2 key items.
1] Armlet of Mordiggian for plus 25 str and 15% increase attack speed, loss of 30 seconds of life per seconds is negligible
2] EOS to slow heroes and for adds to overall stats.
Sorry for the typos. I mean loss of 30 hp points per second.
Be careful when Using Double Edge, some guy killed himself when using it on me!!
Laughing
I'm suprised none has mentioned Manta Style yet.
-BoT
-Blink Dagger
-Manta
-Radiance
-HoT x2
Blink behind the enemy, Manta directly and then Stomp... not many full-health heroes will survive.
My build for Centaur:
1.Heart of Tarassque
2.Heart of Tarasqque
3.Power Treads
4.Radiance
5.Soul Booster or Aghanim's Scepter
6.???
try my items... and it will be WAPAK!!!
One of the best counter of torll and faceless void
vanguard
armor
hot
damage return
add what ever u need :p
My new build:
BoT
RoB
Stout
HoT
Shiva's
Blink
Today, i tried him out with those gloves that get you unholy strength.. and it was AWSOME!
This guy beats the crap out of EVERYONE with that great damage, still being a Tank you almost cant get down.
Get him a satanic, and you wont even feel those -30 HP/sec...
centaur really is the best of all
I find this is guy can be the rock tht hold the key to winning a game. this wat to buy:
1) first Vanguard
2)Boots of Speed
3)hood of defiance (if against nukers)or heart or radiance
4)upgrade to a boots of travel now to chase down bitches running away
4)heart or radiance
5)2 blade mails for return dmg with ur 3rd skill
6)depends on wat u didnt buy first (radiance or heart)
threads 2plate mails 1vad 2 hearts or 1 heart and hyper
if u buy 500 trees u r just fukin immortal- fukin eat the whole forest down so tht the treant bitch cant hide for shit- when the tress grow back- eat em again u lazy bum-FUKIN A'
if u buy 500 trees u r just fukin immortal- fukin eat the whole forest down so tht the treant bitch cant hide for shit- when the tress grow back- eat em again u lazy bum-FUKIN A'
if u buy 500 trees u r just fukin immortal- fukin eat the whole forest down so tht the treant bitch cant hide for shit- when the tress grow back- eat em again u lazy bum-FUKIN A'
If this hero is the most strengthed,
which hero can go face to face with centaur?, I have few, Axe, Sven, sand king, doom, tide hunter or balanar?
some of u are saying a vangaurde plus two or even three hearts.First of all this isnt cheap on top of other items,second of all he already gets 684hp from his ult combined with his normlife a vangaurand and maybe one heart he has lts of life.At tis point armour would do u alot btr then a second (or hird)heart, the dmg reduction would b alt btr with armor making a much much btr and stronger tank
I owned using him!!!
People looking for a counter to Bradwarden should try Terrorblade or Necrolyte. Better yet, do both for a double ult combo.
my fantasy
bot and 2 vg for start
than a radiance
than a lot of hot :)
maybe mogul khan can fight this hero, 1 on 1
As for the list of heroes that can defeat Brad 1v1, didn't ANYONE think a permabasher (void or troll) with lifesteal and 1-2 basher could kill Bradwarden?
1v1 no-one without evasion can counter permabash 
this dude rocks! for me he is easy to control actually.. and i know that this is stupid, but i've decided that brad will be the one and only hero i'm going to use in any game, hahaha
yeah, you can call me stupid but i've set my mind
the only thing i don't like about this hero is that his second skill also damages himself
i think brad is the best tanker in the game
i agree to the idea that this guy is the best among all melee heroes
i've changed my mind.. from now on, i'm gonna use storm spirit instead of brad
however, if it happens that brad is one of my opponents, i admit he'll be really hard to bring down with storm spirit
i've changed my mind.. again.. looks like i'll never be decided
wasy prey for the TROLL with a satanic, 2 bashers and a butterfly...sooo easy, altrough he can gain about 5k HP and the troll only 2400
this is my favorite hero!!!!
here are my items:
1.power threads (boots of travel for backdoor)
2.radiance (farming mode)
3.tarasque
4.hood of defiance (lessen magic damages)
5.battlefury (+damage/moneyshots)
6.tarasque/assualt (optional it depends to you!!!!!!)
this is my favorite hero!!!!
here are my items:
1.power threads (boots of travel for backdoor)
2.radiance (farming mode)
3.tarasque
4.hood of defiance (lessen magic damages)
5.battlefury (+damage/moneyshots)
6.tarasque/assualt (optional it depends to you!!!!!!)
this is my favorite hero!!!!
here are my items:
1.power threads (boots of travel for backdoor)
2.radiance (farming mode)
3.tarasque
4.hood of defiance (lessen magic damages)
5.battlefury (+damage/moneyshots)
6.tarasque/assualt (optional it depends to you!!!!!!)
7.manta (for killing machine)
this is my favorite hero!!!!
here are my items:
1.power threads (boots of travel for backdoor)
2.radiance (farming mode)
3.tarasque
4.hood of defiance (lessen magic damages)
5.battlefury (+damage/moneyshots)
6.tarasque/assualt (optional it depends to you!!!!!!)
7.manta (for killing machine)
Best items....used in B.NeT game and i totally owned...was on top in a 5v5 with all pros in each team :D
heres the build:
SINCE HIS DPS IS SLOW>>>U DONT NEED TO GET HIM ANY LIFESTEAL>.>>>
1.PT
2.Hood of DefiAnCe
3.BloodStOnE
4.VaNgUaRd
5.Lothars
6.S&y..(sange and yasha for MS and for slowing down fast enemies...also for better attk speed)
THis is the best build ever to be used on centaur..NJOY :D
Easy to encounter agil permabashers and melee great dpsers with CENTAUR. Just make 2 blade mails. And you will see yourself permastunned but your opponent dying.
Why 2 blade mails?
I have played games with in which my items have been
HoT + 5 blade mails ( No BOOTS! ) :)
wich means 100% return, so why build only 2?
hey, can somebody pls answer my question? and pls do answer it with a hundred percent sureness.. does centaur's return now also returns damage to ranged attackers? coz when i am playing him i kinda noticed that some ranged creeps that attack me get dead even before i start attacking them
sakit grabe
Yes, it can return dmg to ranged heroes, so if u have in a lane a range hero, better get Return as first skills so that u bleed them if they hit u... centaur in general is one of the best char for initial lane farming as he has many skills to counter initial dmg from heroes, e.g, QOP against centaur in lane, Qop cannot farm for shit and she is one of the best early lane farming heroes!!
as for builds, depends what team needs, u can make him killer or tank, even if 6.52 is stable... i NEED DAGGER, then u can make radi S&Y and assault for killer, for tank, 2 hot travel and assault, depends ofc on picks made by opponents and ur team, uber hero, uber hp, uber dmg and uber early game skills
I think that Centuar Should Have:-
BoT
S&Y
4 HoT
SnY is use full cause of maim and it will also help chase runnin heroes and also a chance to main i think that these are the best items 4 centuar.
For newbies like esmilla and olazo!!!
hehehe.. after a long period of changing my mind over which hero to use permanently and master, i still ended up here!!! bradwarden is the best! my build for him:
1.PT
2.BF
3.assault
4.SnY
5.HoT
6.HoT
i want a killer bradwarden dats y i included assault and SnY, assault is of course to increase his atk spd such that ull be able to deal more chops to the enemy when he or she got stunned by the stomp, the SnY is for chasing becoz late game stomp wont be enuf to kill
i know my build for brad is a lot different to urs CFX, but i'm not really dedicating my role as brad to be a team ganker, i'm more of a solo combat type
(one on one of course hehe, maybe i can handle two at late game depending on who heroes the opponents are playing)
hehehe.. after a long period of changing my mind over which hero to use permanently and master, i still ended up here!!! bradwarden is the best! my build for him:
1.PT
2.BF
3.assault
4.SnY
5.HoT
6.HoT
i want a killer bradwarden dats y i included assault and SnY, assault is of course to increase his atk spd such that ull be able to deal more chops to the enemy when he or she got stunned by the stomp, the SnY is for chasing becoz late game stomp wont be enuf to kill
can the 3rd skill of bradwarden level4 is constant? i mean whoever attack centaur will get automatically 50 damage per attack even if the enemy has an armor? pls. answer it 100 percent correc. thank you for those who will answer it.
naUGHTy hero
