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Strategies:U think priests are weak? Think again! posted by Greater Bash on 2008-01-21Dazzle Your Enemies posted by Tooolbox on 2007-06-13 |
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Weave and the ulti both look very nice ^^' Might want to add him to a few hero team combos. I'm not sure about Wave, but it looks like he'll be able to pull some stuff off in certain conditions. Wonder how large the "small area" is. An interesting hero
Great support hero, can really help in team battles, the "small area" wont reach the enemy ranged creep if you cast it on your own creeps. Overall very nice with a real cool ulti, my only concern is that poison touch crashes G5 macs lol
I seriously think this guy is imba lol. Everything pwns. And his stat gain is huge. Heck, I haven't played him. He pwns tho.
Nice Ult :D
This guy is very hard to use. He is int hero, but i usually make mkb, styg desolator and so on +damage only items on him, so he pwns at late game. But he sure have very low hp, so might get him also some strght items. Manapool are very big without mana items, so better buy +damage stuff only...
shallow grave eats all ultinates
, the fact that you dont loose gold would keep ,y happy, but the made it better with a very nice 20% revive time godly late game, while they wait 80-99 seconds your back in 16-20
grr
im gonna lern to use him just for that and weave
His int gain is freaking insane.
If you keep poisoning touch the other hero(s) he actually pwns
Make it or break it hero, not worth to use, unless randomed. dont even try to be clever to pick this dude. hes dumb. -.-" only his ulti looks decent. 140hp heal is dumb, 17sec weave, if that dude has SNY, he would be back at base in 17seconds already. first skill is crap. (IMO)
this guys is imba...anyone who cant see how imbalanced shallow grave is noob...1vs1 you both die means dazzle with be out of base with your gold plus still all of his...wave plus mec means huge health boost for all teamates in a big battle...weave and lothar imba...this guy has it all...question can wave bounce off of illusions? cause if it can comboed with siren on a net and you hit all of her images around a surround hero you could do 560 damage not to mention a poison strike...or if you could use manta same thing...
at least it's better den meepo...
i hate heroes who dont hav health or mana regeneration, but the no mana use for skill is kind of nice... whats the point of intelligence when u hav no regeneration rate!
@lupeman: You'll have to wait a bit for that. We were the first site to post the two new heroes, so the data I have isn't complete because dota-allstars.com hasn't posted them yet.
weave(-16 armor total) with poison touch (deals PHYSICAL damage) is pwnage. great skill combo
His ult is kinda cool.... Mayb i shud try practice wit hm
very very nice hero
I get MKB first so he's useful late game, and then meka, then i have no clue what to get next because my games never last that long. Lol.
his Wave is godly for pushing. the creep get so much hp from it. you basically have an invincible creep if there's -1 tower on yours or opponent side.
Poison touch is great for team battles, because it slows, then stops the guy who's poisoned. Weave is also useful when ganking/ team battling, -1 armour per second is kickass
His ult is awesome. My only problem is its cooldown, but i guess itll be really imba if it were less. lol.
I want some end-game item builds for this cunt.
this is exelent hero
you must play with him
This guy is an unbelieveable farmer. That wave kills creeps like no one's business. Think of Omni's purification on 4 targes...very nice. I usually have big mana problems with him, despite what other people say here. Go for DPS and Refresher for this guy...
get manta style and clone him then... then his exp gained from farmin with the wave is x3 :D
can someone make a strat for him? seem seem to use..
ultimate is shit both of the new characters a crap and there is no use using them if you do yoyur even more a noob if you use blood seeker
It is a very strong hero, if used right...
Poison touch is one of the STRONGEST slowing skill in the game!!! If you chase an enemy with your teammates, using this skill well he hasn't any chance to survive...
1 more thing: try to COMBINE Poison Touch + Weave!!!
Just imagine: an enemy chased and attacked by 2 (or more) heroes, while fuck*n slowed (s/he will even STOP for a while!), with -8 armour in average (16 pulses / 2)!!! REALLY DEADLY, isnt it?
i love this hero its better than the fucking geo mancer meepo
hey... if i get a refresher and cast poison, weave, shallow grave, refresh and repeat... does grave and weave stack???
cos if they do its -20++ armor and if u get killed... will the person get -850 dmg???
hey... if i get a refresher and cast poison, weave, shallow grave, refresh and repeat... does grave and weave stack???
cos if they do its -20++ armor and if u get killed... will the person get -850 dmg???
pretty sure you can only cast one grave at a time...ie only one person can have it at once...
cast ulti on guy who suicides. very good because the enemy will be pissed because he comes back to early.
when you dissipate do you get the kill if it kills a hero or is the hero that was healed?
Did you know that his weave skill can be a disadvantage to you???
Because the armor will either be plus or minus..... So unlucky for you if all plus
the pulse would give you more armor but would decrease the armor of your enemy
Dazzle the battle pimp is an interesting hero. He now sports the most int of all the heroes I think :D. I guess that makes him the only hero to be immune to obsidians ult. This guy is made to support. He does not have any hero killing capabilities so don't bother getting MKB or whatever as it will just be a waste of money late game. However, he is kind of a good harasser; most people don't notice their armor decreasing as the animation is very subtle (just him waving his arms up in the air once). Always have this guy spearhead a gank, weave then poison. Shadow weave is a great skill for creeping as well as bothering a hero that is surrounded by your creeps.
There were just too many comments to read so i hope no one has mentioned this...
What about techies' suicide will shallow grave damage take effect?
probably not but will someone test it?
this guys item build is ring of basilius, power treads, eye of skadi, and guinsoo
@supahiro: That's a good question! But I think if Techies does have shallow grave it will take effect. Technically, he still "dies".
i think this hero is amazing!!!!even he don't have a great attack that can kill a hero...but he is a great hero support....i like to play with him.....
his magic was awesome too.....
you can combo the spell.....
use poison touch to make enemy heroes slow then cast Weave to make the armor decrease untill minus 10 or maybe more....(what a great spell)
if u played with him...make sure that u have Dagon for finishing attack...
you can also heal some ally heroes by using shadow wave.....
n the most important things is the ultimate...."Shallow Grave"
this thing that attract me to use him...
when Dazzle die he just wait a only 15-20 seconds while the others have to mait more than 60 second or more....
the best thing is u don't lose ur money so u still can buy lots of item
Strangely enough, this guys is a monster early-mid game. That shadow wave is as annoying as Arc Lightning, and it heals to boot. Any one hero trying to gank you will get ganked instead. Also great for battles - you heal and mini-nuke everyone next to any ally. Much better then Omni's heal.
The only thing I don't like about him is his ulti - it encourages the "death wish" mentality - a kill is still a kill, and with Shallow Grave, you...can get killed more??
It was much better when it was permanent, since players that own will rarely if ever use it.
ridiculous int gain (3.4)
this guys ulti works on Squee and Spleen. weave is negative if cast on enemy, positive if cast on ally.
Sweet hero. One of my faves. Won't make a strat for him but here's some tips: Stat build is huge, second only to Pugna (has +3.75 INT) and tied w Enigma. Unless circumstances dictate otherwise, go for as much stats as possible, especially before shadow weave. Perfect ally during group ganks w weave and poison touch. Ult is insane. Always cast it asap and communicate w buddies to let them know ult is ready for them. Good cooldown tempts you to cast poison touch at the start of an attack and maybe get it back in time as enemy heros flee, but I find it best to use as soon as they start to run. Dagon is great w him. Maybe the only hero I actually upgrade it with. Eul's is also great for escaping ganks, cause he's horribly slow. The scourges version of Purist. And just like P he's mostly a support hero but can be a killer, getting last hits w dagon, especially when upgraded. Because you lose hardly any gold, only when you don't have your ult on yourself, you can afford good items. I've been able to Skadi a few times before the games ended. Try the build see what you think, and I guarantee you'll like him.
Best item for dazzle : Eye of skadi,power treads,soul booster and mechanism
i think Dazzle is a great support hero w/ some agi increase items like mayb a hyper and also a Skadi
huhuh
id buy... BoT, Skadi, dagon, guinsoo, does aghanim work for this hero? u need items to flee and items to slow ur enemy
skad + meka if super late game comes refresher...
are you guys shure his ult works 100% on techies? I agree the decreased refresh time for sure, but the skill describes the damage as "to the unit which killed him, if it is a hero" if they can distinguish between hero and creep making final blow, im sure they can distinguish if someone else actually killed you or not
I can't seem to use him very effectively, though I havn't tried going straight dps on him. I'll have to try it next time I get randomed him in an ar game. Meepo on the other hand is a monster despite what people say here, when played well.
the ulti does work on Techies, there just is no returned damage, but who needs returned damage when u deal 1k+ damage. its impossible to get any kills with this hero, especially 1v1. (less someone n00b enough to let their health drop to like 500). try usin Shadow Wave when an enemy hero is fightin like 4 creeps and the creeps hav surrounded him. im sure ive seen at least 250+ damage dealt on a single hero usin that
desolater+weave on nme...
desolater+weave on nme...
Stygian Desolater + weave = roughly -21 and teamed with tidehunter -25/-26 and desolater also adds 60 damage his int. gain is insane he rivals omniknight in support guinsoo would be good since theyre disabled and slowed for about 3 seconds its a perfect oppurtunity to use weave and poison touch just 1 question can he use shallow grave on himself?
Add that + Nevermore and the new Assault Cuirass. That's and extra -9 to armor. Then Finally... Sladar ult... DEAR SWEET GOD!!
Could someone please make guide on Dazzle PLZ!!!!! Thank you!
his ulti is nice with blood stone
nice, i mean really nice hero. Self-healing: i like it. Return damage when you die? Lets we die together.
And BdK is good with Poison touch.
Great and wonderful hero killer when used right. Preferring Guinzoo,Skadi,Buriza,Stygian,Treads and a hyperstone for him.
Weave+Poison Touch+attack until he tries to run away+poison touch and repeat to make a sure kill. Extra armor reduction and the critical will mean 100% damage when you attack. 0 armor means 0% reduction, which also means the crit saying 298! WILL deal 298 damage. Str. heroes and int heroes are at loss against this guy when he gets a desolator.
@lupeman
It is VERY possible to kill with Dazzle. You try not get killed when you have -21 Armor, poisoned for 24 damage per second for 7 seconds (+the fact that you stop completely on second #2)
and then getting hit by 100% of Dazzle's attack due to your armor.
It hurts. And it kills.
I have started playing as dazzle quite a bit recently. He has HUGE base damage, so i tend to augment this. My normal build is Treads/Cuirass/Bloodstone/Dragon
This gives u decent bonus damage, LOTS OF MANA/GOOD HP relative to his low str, and he attacks really fast and has god armour. Thiscombo coupled with weave/touch can kill most heros, or at leastcripple them enough for your allies to serve. Just trying to get people to play him as more then just a support hero.
this character can do quite a bit. question though does Aghanim`s Scepter apply to this character.
dazzles low damage = ur kills can easily be KS'd. u can get items to increase ur base damage such as desolator, buriza and BKB (avatar
) the rest would just go into intel makn u an ultimate support hero. and if ur a support hero, ur bound to get ks'd loads. he could probably solo like other intel heroes though from behind though in early - mid game
hes's a supporter
hope someone will make a strat...
i know hes a supporter, but some pros online can use this hero to kill people, i dont know how they do it
Use skadi and MKB!!!
I prefer skadi dagon and desolator..
This guy needs a Desolater
I prefer skadi and buriza for the kill combo. Desolator is nice, but you've already got -17 armor with weave. How much more do you need? I'd recommend Skadi+buriza+cuirass for ass kicking.
i usually make treads,mecka,desolator and mkb as core items....then if the game continues....buriza will do i guess
Someone make a strat :(
i prefer Skadi,guinsoo it will help you a lot no need for deso it already has weave skill -16 to armor w00hooo
who's better dazzle or holy knight
Nice but not for noobs. I got busted the first time I used this......
definitely not for n00bz... base damage is EXTREMELY LOW, so youve got to buy items to increase it... id choose desolator ova cuirass cos deso gives damage as well but is an orb effect.
it woudl be nice if someone would make a strategy for using dazzle because as far as i know everyone thinks the only good skill he has is his ulti hmm maybe they made him because ther was no more AEGIS... drop from roshan
i wonder if this build would work? get Boots-MOM-Lothars-Linkens-BOT-Stygian... or maybe lothars before MoM
either way weave from trees, lothars --> attack and poison touch seems like a good way to kill a hero, obviously if u have mom it makes this gank twice as good from attack spd. Just a thought, maybe test it out?
Dazzle owns any melee hero hardcore in early game, and hes one of the best support heros in game imo. I enjoy playing him, linkens is key becuz he has low hp and movement speed. Only thing that really owns him is nukes, so get the linkens!!
boots, ring of health, 2 bracers! mask of madness then damage item build!
this hero owns:) can take down any str hero if u use him well. get deso,mkb,travels, etc dmg items. good combination wit prophet also. high base dmg!!
I think the most collest dude he is,
nazara hi aa janda khedan da!
Poison Loving Support Hero = FUN!
his weave is way to good think about it totaly cancles out sladars ult and still adds 1 armour??!!
Why do you guys say that his damage is low? At level 25 he deals 122-140 damage. Compared to Pugna's 141-149, that's not a big difference. What's wrong with his attack is that there is a delay between the attack command and the actual attack. There's some animation he does before he launches his magic projectile. Takes some getting used to and not doing so will result in you unable to deny/last hit.
hard to farm if ur vs'n pros cos they can deny faster than u. Weave is the only real good skill fightin a hero, poison appears great but if they hav dual bashers and do stun u, ur dead, but ur still screwed if a melee hero touches u. ur first to be killed cos low hp and Wave, Shallow Grave and Weave helps the team
Its actually very easy to farm and deny with dazzle because his attack animation is moderately fast and his projectile is very fast. Furthermore, shadow wave if used correctly can get you 2-3 creep kills even in early game...
wat about stygian desolator + necromonicon to get more hits on the -armour
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since shadow wave does physical dmg, take along a few necromonicons, weave and if they get 2 close then heal yourself. the necros will be hitting on the low armoured hero plus increasing the dmg on shadow wave (bcoz it bounces) and the increase ur atk and move speed
5vs5 and he is best,to help team and cheat death,slow...
im working on a team strat for this guy he actually can just decimate if you play him just right his base attack is pretty huge come mid-end game
What happened to the Strat I saw last month about dazzle? The Ginsoo & Mjollnir build? Aw... anyways, I prefer playing dazzle as a DPS AGI hero and an INT SUPPORT hero at the same time. Spamming heal on my allies, and slowing/disabling an enemy hero in clashes.
If you get Helm of Dominator and dominate Forest Troll H igh Priest,wich have Abolish Magic,can you remove buf-Shalow Grave if Dazzle is oponent?
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Hey guys. Just wanna share my item build for Dazzle. Try it. I hope it will work if you do.
1.Power Treads
2.Vanguard (addtional hp and survivality)
3.Mekansm (to support allies in team battles)
4.Monkey King Bar (for disabling channeling and for damage boost)
5.Sange and Yasha (for more speed, hp, armor and good for chasing)
6.Guinsoo Scythe of Vyse (for mana regen, vodoo and additional damage)
7.Eye of Skadi (this more accurate than Sange and Yasha. Replace your S&Y with this)
With this, you are a hybrid type. A DPS hero and Supportive type hero. Tru it.
Hey guys. Just wanna share my item build for Dazzle. Try it. I hope it will work if you do.
1.Power Treads
2.Vanguard (addtional hp and survivality)
3.Mekansm (to support allies in team battles)
4.Monkey King Bar (for disabling channeling and for damage boost)
5.Sange and Yasha (for more speed, hp, armor and good for chasing)
6.Guinsoo Scythe of Vyse (for mana regen, vodoo and additional damage)
7.Eye of Skadi (this more accurate than Sange and Yasha. Replace your S&Y with this)
With this, you are a hybrid type. A DPS hero and Supportive type hero. Tru it.
damage low?it is not low if u cast weave on ur enemy heroes.deso+cuirass+weave=???
Guys and girls,can i make a strategy for him???Because i have with him one month played and i see that here is no strategy for build.Can I???
@adrian
Thanks for spamming that horrible build w/ a 7 item inventory.. one of which is s&y
My item build:
1. Boots of Travel
2. Assault Cuirass
3. Stygian Desolater
4. Guinsoo's Scythe of Vyse
5. Mekansm
6. Monkey King Bar
Bloodstone works with his ulti too. might wana add that in the build
Hye guys! I'm noob with this hero and wondering if anyone could PLEASE make a stratigies ? Thx guys!
Can someone answer my question pls???If you get Helm of Dominator and dominate Forest Troll High Priest,witch have Abolish Magic,can you remove buff-Shallow Grave if Dazzle is opponent? Thx!!!!!!!
Eye of skadi
desolator
assault cuirass
guinsoo's
MkB
Buriza Pwnage
Iruel I dont think banish magic removes Ulti magic. i think it only does stuff like empower and bloodlust...
and item build for support should go something along these lines
1) arcane ring
2) mekansm
3) BoT
3) Guinsoos
4) Bloodstone
5) assault or refresher
6) Empty Bottle (this can be picked up earlier because it makes it so you only need to goto fountain to refill it when ur arcane ring mekansm and bottle are all empty and u low on health and mana (so never) and it decreases for trips to fountain when youa actually do have to go. I.E. spam the bottle while at fountain cuts time down by 30%+
As an alternate hero killing build go
1) Arcane ring
2) guinsoos
3) Dagon (upgrade every so often as proportion to enemies hp and lvl)
4) bloodstone
5) Refresher
6) BoT
This isnt the order you get them in but make arcane and soulbooster ASAP then guinsoos and dagon comes fast and get the hyperstone right after Dagon so that you can poison and weave then when the slow wears off you sheep + dagon if he still has health you have done something wrong or he is a late game High HP hero in which case slow and run
This Hero jz buying Thing that + armor enought!
well, i'd like to use desolator for this guy...
coz weave can minus ur'e enemy's armor...
so.. if you add it with desolator, it's about -21...
dazzle ROCKS!!!
Anyone who can create a f***ing build for this guy?
one of the few heros that owns pudge :D
Core items: Ring of Basilius, some sort of HP, like a couple bracers (or vanguard), and desolator.
After those I suggest Cuirass and Skadi. Buriza is also good too but the armor/ hp outweigh the crit strike initially. Guinsoos is an option too, but you alrd have poison touch, which is arguably just as efective.
If you time weave/posion touch right, youll send the other hero to the fountain every time. And if you soften em up before you do your little combo, youll probably kill him.
After you kill the first creep in a wave, cast weave. When you kill the 2nd creep of the 4 (using last hit technique), Attack/poison touch. You roughly get max damage from poison touch and ur attacks this way.
Weave is rather useless though until level 3 or 4. But you want to get it asap. I usually max out PT, and weave, with a skill point or 2 in shadow wave depending on how badly im getting harassed. Dont shallow grave if you dont have to.
yeah
desolater with one of ur skill that decrease their armor... he would probably run after a while then sheep staff with skalid.. very good combo then ur poisen skill hmmm ooo buy heart cause he have very low hp.
ok 1) everyone who says get deso dont.. its -6 armour which is not bad but if your enemy is already -16 that other 6 isnt a HUGE boost for the cost of it. Better off spending a bit extra and getting MKB or work on Assault curriass which gives them -5 armour plus gives you a bunch fo armour and attack speed
2) anyone who said go for HoT i say noway. Get Meka and your Shadow wave there are instand 390 hp heal as well as damage to any enemy within melee range plus you can now use all that extra money on something that will actually help you. Bracers early game i could see to take the squishiness outta this hero early to mid game. You have a slow you are ranged and you have high normal attack damage assuming somone does come in for a gank late game HoT will not save you your heals and disables will. If you are constantly getting ganked then think about working on Assault Assault + weave on self plus heals = almost 40 armour and 500+ hp from heals Only a group dissable gank could take that.
Also shallow grave is best used when you are about to get ganked focus your entire attack on the hero most likely to get the killing blow on you if you happen to get his hp under 450 (where dagon comes in handy) shallow grave will take care of the rest I am making a strat I am trying to see if i can get this to work Perfect so i can explain exactly the best way todo it.
Phalankz-thx,dazzle is one of my fave heroes and I'm Ireul-"angel of fear" !
Can you please check that about buff,thx anyway
@phalanx
Desolator is a very good item for dazzle.. u say -16 armor isnt enough. Your right, it is enough, but thats only for 1 second... so maybe it isnt. If you get desolator, the entire 16 second spell of weave is useful, not just the last half of it!! Guinsoo is an idea, but you already have poison touch which has a very short, and I say, very short cooldown. MKB is a great item for him tho, props on that call.
just to back up the deso/bracer build... a pudge hooked me, rotted me, and dismembered me, and I still killed him using multiple poison touches because of short cooldown, 1 weave and 2 healing waves.
A second time he actually ran from me with 500 health while I only had 100 health.
This all happened mid game, and btw this pudge was a good player, one of my friends, no noob. Just dont lead with poison touch and you will probably kill him. Hit him once or twice, maybe three times if he doesnt run, then poison touch.
you make a good point krocka because instead of going 1-16 - armour its 7-22
(strat spoiler here) if you combo this with poison touch it is really good though hit enemy with poison touch and weave in rapid succession then start whacking on him by the time the poison touch sets in he is at -3 armour and paralized lucky if he has even gotten to you get if he is a melee hero. Then start hitting him especially if creeps are on him by the time he is back up and running his armour is now around -10-12 and your hits are doing some serious damage. use poison touch again and repeat by the time the 2nd poison touch has warn off if he is still alive both weave and poison touch will be up again. if that hero has creeps on him spam a few shadow waves in there and he is toast. I have taken on Magnataur with this (a newb one) And when he use his ulti the second i came outta stun i use shadow wave and the 3 creeps and me he pulled into him absultely deciamted his health.
Also I love using dazzle on teams with replicators like meepo and slithice you get them to net a guy run in and surround him with clones/images then cast weave and wave Nothing survives that its a 560 dmg wave plus heals 4 units for 140 and the images and clones are doing greater and greater damage with weave then just before net wears off poison touch and its over. You get 2 shadow waves 1 weave 1 poison touch and about 4 hits in on mid-late game STR heros your lucky if agi and int heros even get out of the net when this occurs.
Personally i use the money for making desso towards stuff like assault MkB Buriza or Meka.. or add 2-3 lvls to Dagon which you use after the above weave and poison combo saves using the second poison. I see what you mean by the Deso though starting at -7 armour is kinda harsh -12 if you have deso Assault On Str heros like Tiny and Bradwardden it makes their High HP irrelevant.
phalankz-can you make strategies for shadow priest because you know how to play with him!
You have got to cast ulti on techies. When they blow up, they still get exp AND deal more damage with suicide.
Shadow Priest=Techies best friend
Someone should make a strat for him :)
please post strategies for dazzle!
Weave = Proness
This is actually a pretty good hero. I've tried it... I don't really know the items though... I use desolator... Just be patient in using this character. This guy kills slowly. Just use poison touch and weave and cast shallow grave if you have to
Weave+Poison touch is pure ownage!!!
I like this heroes style, but i need to try and get him to last longer in battle. any suggestions? im a noob btw
Man i just played today against this hero...
I dont know how did he do it but he got a level gap of around 5 levels froms average...
I was naix and when i tried attacking him it would take him 5 or 6 hits to take me down!!!
I mean come on how could he get so powerful?
His items were only a mkb perseverance two nulls and a desolator...
He took everyone out even 3 vs 1 without his life getting even below half....
How he got so powerful is beyond me
such a great support hero; with a desolator and level 4 weave you can get -22 armor on the other guy.
Problem is that you need a good team for this guy to work; if you've got that and you work together he's actually kind of imba =S
how to make him last longer in battle Get MEKA and ARCANE RING
I had naga come at me she split and netted me twice luckily i had creeps with me but i got 2 shadow waves and a meka off which (this was late game so i also had assault and MKB) so her images dropped like nothing
in for those that arent that good at math or familiar with him i believe thats 140X2 for the waves and 250 for the meka giving me 530 hp more over the duration of one encounter.
I have figure out one of the best mixed builds. For support this hero can take a single creep wave from one base to teh other killing all other waves and both towers as long as he doesnt hit a hero this works early-mid game on.
Get Meka first.
Then its your choice on BoT or Treads. Anything under a 4v4 game i suggest BoT
Then get an arcane ring. Now its pretty much it you will never have to go back to the fountain just hit the ring every time the cooldown is up. use Meka when you get to a tower and your creep wave has multiple creeps low on HP and there are no enemy creeps. Use shadow wave as much as possible if there are enemy creeps you farm so well with this spell. Now you can got 1 of 3 ways from here you can go for buriza MKB or Assault
I mix it up a bit. More of a hero killing build buy the Hyper stone first then farming is easy until you get crysalis. Then you can go for either Deso or complete either buriza or assault (personally i think if your are making assault dont get a desso.)
The last few games i went in 5v5 games Meka, treads, Arcane,Hyperstone, MKB, Asault then never got to finish my Buriza i got Crysalis a few times. My final damage was around 250-270 i had +20 armour and if i was getting ganked +40ish with weave. +40 armour +2 heals and a slow makes this hero SOOO hard to kill. As well in a gank you weave first then slow and just start whacking away if you have BoT instead you can persue a lot better and get 2nd and 3rd poison touches off which freaking decimate heros. I have yet to lose a game when I am Dazzle because he is such a good all around hero. His base attack and atk speed are nice he has nice healing and damagins skills disables and an ulti that makes him fearless in battle. You will not always get 15 kills in a match but your death are almost always below 5 even if your pretty n00b. and if you die alot just keep shallow grave up. Also you do not always have to get shallow grave at 6 11 and 16. Get it at 6. But lvls 2 and 3 have nice cooldown reductions but if you are not dying all that often you wont need to worry about it until late game. Then you start graving teamates as well as yourself ALOT!.
ENJOY
dazzle is good when battling with ur team mates but i dont think this hero isnt made for 1 vs 1.
this hero is fucking gay take mortred , axe, phantom assasin or mercurial
to all those saying dazzle sucks... uhhh think, a melee hero up on your creeps, use wave and guess wut 140X3 damage. also weave + poison touch will do a lot of damage because poison touch is physical damage. his ult can be caste on multiple ppl and keep it taht way unless you got no noobs you just goes and feeds. so wut im saying is... with good item build like deso, mkb, guinsoo, meka, power tread, and if you can get all go for skadi or assault cuirass... and own... and i know some of you will be saying taht any heroes good with some of those items but im saying his moves are not bad
sry for double post but i meant you got noobs who goes and feeds or your the noob who feeds them, sry
@ dub-sizzle, like wut the only guide suggests going with your teammate can give you sure exp from kiling heroes and you wont be getting hit with his nice range and movement speed. Also, i tried him 2 vs 1 mid cause someone left and he still owned
he stimk
That's the dummest, helpless, most unreliable hero in the game
One of my Best Heroes!
How do u use this guy!!??
pure support, like omniknight
yah! pure support! especially the ultimate. ",
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well!i play dazzle a lot of!!i like support heroes!!and he is support!!i always make him first Power Trends...then Eye of skadi....then mekanism...and hex!!that's all!!this is the best staff...
this hero also can be killer hero or support hero if u buy the right item for him.....I buy power threads, guinsoo, dagon 5,deso and 2 bracer and i able to kill Undying with hex, dagon and few hits only.....is a good hero to train for...
lvl 4 weave?! slardar's ulti losses track but becomes a normal skill!
do this two skills stack otherwise slardar's ulti is almost useless
if you are owning whit this hero the ult is good but if you dont own the gme they will just kill you and get the gold.So what if you revive fast that will mean more gold for the others.
i used to previously ply dazzle as a killer and i got teh kills but then i decided to xpereiement wiht him as suppoert. i bought all support items like mekanism,arcane ring,bot,eos and even thouhg i dint get kills, i saved my allies from dying a lot. like i saved 6-7 deths. den three of our team left and der was only me and razor in our team. the enemy still had 5 ppl and we teamselled so razor got a lot of gold. he otally owned the enemy but then dey started gankiing him. i had been farming all this time wihtout interference(teh enemy found it impossible to kill me even wiht multiple disables and ganking). den i helped razor out and dey were no match for his dmamage and my healing. my item build now goes like this:
1) boots of teleport
2)mekanism
3)arcane ring
4)eye of skadi
5)linkens/heart of tarasque(depends on teh enemy)
6)whtever i feel like getting(doesen treally matter)
usually my final item/second final item is assaukt cuirass. and u can totally kill even wiht a support dazzle. try not getting killed with so much -armour. and even if u fight back, he can just heal himself while damaging u and if u do kill him, u get killed rite back(most probably). in my razor game, enemy had a rexxar and he was chasing me. i poisoned him so he got quite some damage from poison and creeps and i led him on a nice merry chase and he followed!. btw, i had like 500 hp wen he strted chasing me and he had like 1500 hp and by the time i finally faced him off we both had like 100 hp. i used meka and arcane and fought him. i died but he was at 300 or somethng hp and poof. one second later he falls dwn ded
he took liki 60 seconds to revive and i took like 20 seconds w/o me losing ne gold.
SORRY FOR THE DOUBLE POST
WoW this hero is one of my favorite he is unstapoble when his inventory is assult cuiruss and deso try this and use his weave!! at the enemy wow this is fun
this guy is perfect with techies! i just realised that! ult on techies.. he blows himself up... he can get at least doubt kill then if theres a 3rd hero u poison touch them and u should kill them! wow im gonna try that lol.. but yeaa this guy and techies would make perfect team!
This hero is very awesome!!!!!!!!
Tieches can do this by himself using a stun trap
126-144 damage late game OUCH!
This hero is no way a supporter, it is a hero killer. Weave, , attack, poison touch, run near, attack till dead. Rinse, repeat. Major items; BoT, Skadi, Mjollnir, AC, Butter and Buriza, possible late game since you are a very good farmer with 3rd skill.
Get dazzle, alchemist, lanaya, slardar and vengeful on a 5v5 ap game, have someone with deso and another with cuirass, you can have 5(AC) + 6(Corruption) + 16(Dazzle) + 15(Slardar) + 8(Razzil) + 8/16(Lanaya but dunno if double meld stacks) + 6(Vengeful)
And there is 64/72 (depending on double meld stack) reduced armor! One hit kill.
Remember people, -70~ armor.
noob.... y get agi items fo him?
get
BoT for chase
Stygian ASAP for early kills and damage
dagon 5 for blahblah blah
linken sohere for anti channel and some good stats
guinsoo for voodoo and mana
and mkb
tell u what works for me all the tym...
but ive also tried giving dazzle a "diversion" i used agi items like 2 butterfly and a hypertone with stygian...
killing has never been so easy
nice hero, great suuport skill, no gp;d lost, faster revive
if u hv aegis, then u die, will your ulti still inflict damage?
No cause if you have aegis-you won't be dead
Treads, Shiva, Deso, Cuirass, Linkin, last item depends who you're fighting.. a lot of melees I usually go blademail, sometimes Buriza, sometimes Orchid, and sometimes hex.
Poison touch, weave, run next to them, shiva, then blast away.
i reckon he would be better off being an agi hero don tu think ?
lothar for shadow weave and manta style for shadow weave as well
if he agi my build would be
stygian
manta
lothar
sny
BoT
Buttrfly
He is the best hero eva my personal hero killing machine :D no one stand against him :D:D:D
my item build for Dazzle:
1.BoT
2.Stygian Desolator
3.Orchid Malevolence
4.Buriza
5.Assault Cuirass
6.Linken Sphere
BoT - so you can walk much faster.
Deso - it works well with your 2nd skill.
Orchid - faster attackspeed and you can silence your enemy for some time.
Buriza - works well with ur deso , assault cuirass and ur 2nd skill since ur enemy will lose armor it will be a lot of damage if u do a critical hit.
Assault Cuirass - also works well with your 2nd skill.
Linken Sphere - for stunners and heavy nukers and it also boosts ur low HP.
I prefer this build
1.PT
2.Orchid Malevolance
3.EoS
4.Buriza
5.AC
6.Radiance or HoT
Try it ^^
My build
-Mekasm
-Boots
-Guinsoo
-Boots of travel
-Eye of skadi (for the states)
-Assault Cuirras
-Orchid
i mean shiva's guard as my 6th item
really helpful hero..
My main build for him is :
Boots, 2 Bracers or Nulls, (get pot if runes are determining games..)
Then get ultimate orb, and build for Skadi, great for slowing and killing, then guinisoo. BoT would also be good.
My main build for him is :
Boots, 2 Bracers or Nulls, (get pot if runes are determining games..)
Then get ultimate orb, and build for Skadi, great for slowing and killing, then guinisoo. BoT would also be good.
I'm pretty gg at Dazzle
My build for Dazzle is:
BoT
2 Bracers (more hp...he's pretty delicate)
Deso (6 armor reduction)
Assault Cuirass(5 armor reduction)
Orchid Malevolence (soul burn= 15 percent more damage)
In the games I've played I only got up to the AC, then it was gg for the other teams. Dazzle is a really good killer, but he's easy to kill.
(Btw...does his shallow grave stack with bloodstone?)
I usally jsut go with dagon first then i use posin, wave, then dagon for finish
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good combo skill......?
weave+death touch....?
items....?
desolator,radiance,boots of travel,buriza, heart of tarrasque... is that ok...
One of the least uses heros, certainly.
Will the shallow grave effect on your self?
it is a weak hero...
it is really true.....
wawawaweeeeeeee..........
pota!
@ dar kkil90
Shadow grave will effect on yourself but first u have to activate it.
@ irwin
He is not weak
all of his skills are very good
love the heal
Hy....
all
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Laughing
I want to ask
what item for dazzle
please reply it quickly
thanks all
Nice Hero...
My Build:
Treads
MKB
Cuirass
Desolator
Buriza
Anything u want...
dazzle is kinda peculiar in a sense because in my opinion, he is a hero-killer disguised as a support hero or vice-versa.
*mekanism
*hood of defiance (if there are lots of int heroes/nukers) otherwise use vanguard
*boots of travel
*guinsoo
*eye of skadi
*(optional)
whats the difference between physical damage to spell damage?
good
for me assault + mekansm is my target items for this hero..in this way you will be an ULTIMATE support that will give HP regen + attack speed aura to your allies..and this guy is really great at HEALING!!plus if you cast weave on yourself you will have a wapping 36+ armor..WTF! he can't be a food alright.. i use this strat often on 5vs5 though..
WOW 1.11 attack speed 27 int and 3.4 gain per lvl OMFG Dazzle rocks, best stats ive ever seen on int hero even better than Harbinger
Great supporter
Power treats(int)
Deso
Orchid
HoT
Radiance
Guinsoo
Dazzle is the best support for the scourge..he can heal more than chen over time due to fast cooldown on dissipate and it will keep ur buddies alive in midgame too deny enemy gold....hes a beast
I really like this hero because he is so different from the others. I think that they should rework his ulti into something else tho..
i love this hero, i like to get a dps build. dagon, deso, and assault, and if poison doesnt slow em enough, shivas for arctic blast, his base dmg is crazy and if u stack weave on deso, he does major dmg, i leave skadi out because if u get shivas u have enough slowing
Can someome tell me if Shallow Grave can deal that dmg to a ranged hero that killed you ? if sniper pawned you with his ulti from a long range , and he is low on HP , will he die if I have my ulti on me ?
@ supaplecs
- yes, he will die to the graves (ulti) dmg.
hey i think is a good intel fighter with these items
recommended
monkey king bar
dominator
assault
shiva
septer
great hero. When your opponent has many of your creeps around him, vast Shadow Wawe. Gargantous damage. Weave can make -15 armor, and Poison can slow so much, that the target stops moving for a sec or two. Also, ulti is great in late game, since you lose almost no gold when you die, and you tako 15 sec to revive instead of 60. Great hero indeed.
this hero sucks i first time use kana shit
6.54 .. Shadow Priests skills are different now
6.54 came out yesterday. Weave is now the Ult and Grave a regular ability. Weave is now AOE (and will effect both allies and enemies, just as it did before) while shallow grave prevents allies from dying for 5 seconds.
Update him ---
To all, i will update my strategy, it will have some changes now so expect it soon enough but plz be patient.
hey i heard at the getdota change log this dazzle ultimate change to basic skill and "weave" gone to ultimate ?? is that for real ?
yeap..his ulti is now weave, but it's area effect. increase himself and allies armour and decrease enemy heroes armour at the same time. but it's still decrease gradually second by second. Shallow grave is now normal skill, prevents ally or himself from dying for 5 seconds. the good think abt this i feel the the v long cast range (1000) i think.
Dazzle SUCKS!!!
That's imba i think...
"revents any damage from killing the targeted hero for 5 seconds."
omg.. that stronger than abaddon borow time -_-
you suck gonic!Dazzle is the best supporter ever!!
New dazzle is a lot more interesting to play i think, there is more action
--for an 5vs5 apem--
I always use 1 Null + 1-2 Clarity Potion. The null increases stats, and the clarity gives you more mana.
i always go with Shadow Wave and Poison Touch.
thou, you can skip Poison and go for shalow grave to avoid First Blood.
First item is
Power Treads STR
2nd item helm of dominator
3d, MKB,
4th Shiva
5th HoT or Orchid. depending on you, if you want to mass spells or just farm a lot..
6th,Radience/aegis/guinsoo. Always depend on what kind of enemy u got :]
GL
this new dazzle can really kill now. All u need is deso and curaiss and u already have -35 armor on enemies when u have 44+ armor. practical tank. the grave is harder to use now becuase of timing issues. if u cast it to early, its pointless. you have to cast it right when they are in the deep reds
still my items on dazzle are:
1 : RoB,
2,3 : Nulls,
4 : guinsoo/euls
(5 if euls @4: guinsoo)
for core, after that you make up ur own mind, i find skadi too hard to farm in an allstars game. nulls and guinsoo/euls solve your mana problems (void is way too good on him) as does RoB early game. Eqarly game onhly use heal for farming, and level touch with it. in early game, only touch if sure of the kill. take the ulti after heal and touch, when able and stats further on, leave grave be useless
nice hero...
healer, nuker and damager.
can take away the viper strike from killing the stricken. saves people from epicenters, assasination and culling blade.
when teamed up with Slardar, Shendelzare, Lanaya, the armor of the hero would be...
-56.
the ultimate in armor reduction!
anybody play the latest ai version with this guy would probally get really pissed off at a him eventually cuz he powns now.....
can anyone make a new guide for the new shadow priest
bad thing about weave is you get its full potential when its nearly over...
worst hero remake ever took away all of his strengths made him a second rate support hero
and from what i can tell shallow grave doesnt stop anything all ulties land
dots stay on you you sit at 2 hp until grave wears off then you die went from top 5 to avoid like the plague instantly
@ Jaster Mereel
Working on it.
i dont get shallow grave!!!!! sumone please explain...i cast it on myself and still die, and whats the point of casting it on other heroes??
updated ruels
un killable
