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Strategies:Refract and Break. posted by laelion on 2007-08-10 |
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Limit your discussions to Lanaya - Templar Assassin.
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max "MELD" first.
MELD + attack attack vice versa...
when u use meld, w8 until it is ready again.. so u cn MELD 2x... which deals 400dmg.. excluding ur base damage.
uber nice
wow, integrating a little bit of starcraft into WC3. lol, wasn't Aiur the home planet of the protoss before it got destroyed. lol
she seems a bit imba with the bonus damage abilities/spells. i haven't played her yet but looks like shes definately a paper tiger
At last they put another starcraft hero to face the venomancer lol and she seems pretty powerful too 
psi blades doesn't add bonus damage it adds range...
How works Meld?
Meld is something like a backstab from a WW but it is more backstab than WW bcuz if u move in Shadow Meld u will become visible again. So dont use it to escape, only use it in battle.
How works Meld?
I prefer maxing out psi blades and refract first for good farming , then i take meld : 
Hard-to-use hero. Basically her skills reflect her name: Assassin. Many of her skills are ideally for 1v1 battles. Plant psionic traps where you think the unsuspecting fool will come, Meld to become invisible, Refraction for bonus assassin dmg. I believe Psionic traps also have a limited use as wards.
I'm not a fan of assassin heroes (other than anubarak) so i liave you to figure out what items to buy for her.
I prefer maxing out psi blades and refract first for good farming , then i take meld :
well... what about using skadi?
orb effect (melee) or no (range)?
how does meld work, you cant move so do you needa do a meelee attack on them when they come close? Cause thats sorta dumb.
She has a 290 range with Psi Blades maxed.
what items! all i can think of is a butterfly maybe s&y ? for the chase + traps?
Amazing hero, I got 4 godlikes in a row :D
Seems like skadi would be a good choice.
Way too IMBA.
Meld lets you hide anytime, anywhere for as long as you want with a bonus atk of 200 dmg and -8 armor for just 100 mana. Not to mention the 12 sec cool down.
Psi blade gives you 260 range splash and some bonus to your pathetic "range", but 260 splash range..ouch?
Refraction lets you have 6 mini nukes to your atk for 75 mana =super early game killer.
psionis trap is where they really made it imba. Place about 3-4 traps down every single lane and you have your self 15-20 sec slow for a guaranteed kill. You can even place one infront of a guy during a chase for a good chance of slowing them down. all this for just 15 mana each, WOW.
from my understanding, each point into psi blades increases the distance from behind your target that gets hurt, and it seems that the added range is the distance the splash travels. therefore farming lanes with creeps all right next to eachother or directly behind themselves benefits from splashes closer to your target better when i put 1 or 2 points into it; therefore it seems that farming splashes enemies better than 3 or 4 points into blades.
kinda like pa... would get a mask of madness, butter.. along those lines
lol gayest ulti, SO WEAK! only 50% for 5 seconds. a diffusal blade is better than it
meld you cant move or u lose invis
Psyblade is NOTHING LITERALLY! it just becomes average range when maxed. worse than lunas range in beginnin
u guys all dont know what this hero is capable of. she is great team player coz u can use her traps like everlasing wards which is great for ganks and she is a very hard hero to kill if u combine blink dagger with meld.
this hero is so imba u can meld ass long as u want
What item build would you recommend?
I ussually go with:
Power Treads
Vanguard 2x (works with refraction - you really are getting NO damage!!!)
Hyperstone 2x (to improve speed of refraction damage)
Burizza (again Crits with refraction is VERY nice 550! on level 20!)
Skill Build: max Refraction (your deffinitelly core skill) and psi blades + meld lvl 1, then ulti, then meld.
always GG 
really good skills but i am very disapointed with this ulti!!!i think it sucks!!!and i think that in the new version will make it better.not only upgrating the max traps but and the slow at about 65-70%!its a good idea
Have u guys seen the range she sets her traps at. She can be in the forested areas and slow someone fleeing with the traps and come out and kill them. I havent played with her in a good game yet but I think she may die easily without items.
What item build would you recommend?
I ussually go with:
Power Treads
Vanguard 2x (works with refraction - you really are getting NO damage!!!)
Hyperstone 2x (to improve speed of refraction damage)
Burizza (again Crits with refraction is VERY nice 550! on level 20!)
Skill Build: max Refraction (your deffinitelly core skill) and psi blades + meld lvl 1, then ulti, then meld.
always GG
She is easilly killed without refraction on or if enemy have gem/wards...
with defend items and refraction .. she is rambo not assasin! 
i played her with power treads vanguard sange&yasha and butterfly in battlenet hmm smells GODLIKE!
Wouldnt Stygian Desolater be great for her?
I mean, she got Meld wich is decreasing the opponents armor, and with Stygians orb its realy evil. And then ure also getting a lot of damage, wich is also evil for her.
what are possible items for this hero?
how does Refraction block damage work? does it block certain number of attacks from a target?
early game she is shit against strength heroes
Stoyo: Refraction blocks all damage from creeps or heroes for your 6 hits.. only damage you gain is from target you are attacking...
So.. it is smart to place your traps on the lane where creeps are heading, stand on the lane when nobody can see you.. use your refraction, then MELD.. wait until the hero comes with the creeps and attack...
in the procession, you gain no damage from creeps! Enemy hero stays cool.. because he thinks that his creeps will take your health down quickly... but with your refraction boost damage and slow of your traps... it is his last mistake xD.
I played with her 3 games today and my score was: 14/1 AP 16/3 APEM 11/1 APEM
This hero is exactly what i wanted
Treads and Desolater..gg
Well I just used this hero today and she sure did get the right name...ASSASSIN
Her hp is like nothing but she is an insane killer just hope that nobody gets a gem
j0eb0xerr:
"Treads and Desolater..gg"
yeah i think it works well on her 
maybe im wrong but i try using desolator on her and it overrides the minus 8 amor of Meld.
well i'm not completely sure but as i was hitting someone with desolater..then melded and proceeded..the damage increase was blantely obvious
a nice item combo to keep opponents guessing is Lothar's and the meld, they dont kno whether to nuke there or 40 feet away, the annoyance factor of the brood's webs.
IM NOT THERE IM HERE.... NO OVER HERE
a nice item combo to keep opponents guessing is Lothar's and the meld, they dont kno whether to nuke there or 40 feet away, the annoyance factor of the brood's webs.
IM NOT THERE IM HERE.... NO OVER HERE
2x vanguard, buriza, butterfly and you own..!!
i think skadi would be nice to..!
Great hero.. The third skill how it works?
Cant understand? Its passive?Great items for her are
1.Power Threads
2.Stygian Desolator
3.Buriza
4.Assault Cuirass
5.Linkes Sphere
6.The Butterfly
Great hero.. The third skill how it works?
Cant understand? Its passive?Great items for her are
1.Power Threads
2.Stygian Desolator
3.Buriza
4.Assault Cuirass
5.Linkes Sphere
6.The Butterfly
THE ULTI,MELD are awesome
I think 15 mana cost for trap is a joke. They might've forgot a 0 at the end of it at least!
IMO she is the best-early hero because of 3rd skill. Get 2 Refraction ,2 Psiblade , 1 Meld, 1 Psyonic Trap, she is able to clear whole group of creeps just by few hit.The most terrific thing is no one dares to stay behind creeps line cuz they get hit too ! Psi Blades OWNS !!!
Refraction (R)
Manipulating psionic energy around herself granting a mystical refraction of light that protects her from external harm and giving her bonus damage for a limited number of instances. Lasts 20 seconds.
IMBA, bonus damage, protection for 20 seconds, low manacost, and same cooldown and duration.
Psionic Trap too, huge casting range, low manacost and cooldown.
And those Psi Blades, splash damage is the holy grail for ranged heroes. She basically gets the perk of being ranged, but also gets one of the few things that gave melee heroes one of if not the only advantage they have over ranged heroes.
These new heroes are pretty imba.
You guys may wonder why her 3rd skill OWNs
May be I'll make a guide for her to tell you .Wait for it !
is it triggered automatically or manually? and can you see the trap vision?
sorry i meant to add that my above post was for Psionic Trap 
sorry i meant to add that my above post was for Psionic Trap
I was playing her the other day and a good item build is treads, hood of defiance (make sure to get early on as when you stay in meld you can regen like nothing, dagon 1 and buriza. At this point no one was willing to fight without wards near by. Her trap should be used on the chase as she can cast it way in advance of the heros path so they are in constant slow.
Ability wise you should make sure to get psi blades, and then swap between meld and refraction until you get your dagon. Hurass meld attack dagon. Easy kills if your not fighting Dragon knight. Very nice 
does her psionic trap slow stack?
my build for her is
hyperstone
linken sphere
power threads
vanguard
i dont underrstand her psi blades and meld. i herd she cant move when she uses meld??? can some 1 explain it to me cuz ive never been her thx
I dont like this hero to mucho i dont understand his second Skill someone can explain me? 
Templar is extremely deadly early game in ganks with refraction (I can't think a reason not to get it first). But I just played against Leshrac and got owned. 3 of his spells can damage Templar when she use meld. Plus Templar's low hp, no chance against Leshrac. NEVER pick Templar against Leshrac! 
imba hero otherwise though.
going with MoJo and JIN, how does meld work? is it still invis near towers/trusite? do u still get bonus dmg when u have moved, but not atked anything?very confusing
towers hav true sight, so u will get seen.
once u move, u lose the bonus. u hav to strike them. early game harrasser...
Meld, wait for creeps and heroes to come, attack hero, remeld.
LOL,OMG :psi blades provide extra range not extra damage,and if so,how come it`s not only a range/melee hero,this sucks,other wise,nice abillities
yea meld must b hella tuff especially doing it twice when its maxed out!!!! xtra tuff lol the ulti seems good to!
i was thinkn, would lothars be good? when u meld u cant flee, but when u hav lothars, u gain extra movement speed so u can run away, then meld once lothars wears off (if someone is approachin)
Pitlord > Templar
All his skills are AoE and doesnt matter if shes melded, she will get hurt still. Pit of Malice will stun her, making her lose invis :P
Can anyone explain the second skil?
How does the protecting her from external harm work?
What does instances mean?
she goes invisible and cant be hit by a single target spell/attack.
AoE damage will hurt her still.
instances mean strikes
Hard to use.... 
Item Build plz.....
@lupeman u mentioned that her ulti is weak, just look at cooldown and mana cost
SHE REFRACTED MY LAGUNA BLADES!!! ARGH!!!!! So imba. Needs micro skills to plant a mine DIRECTLY AHEAD of a fleeing hero THEN TRIGGER IT BEFORE THEY'VE PASSED IT!
I really like the trap thing
shes so fun in wtf mode keep refract and invulnerable
i don't think lanaya is weak at all... meld and refraction can get you kills esp. in early games where hp's and damages are low. you dont have to worry about spell nukes aswell coz of refraction. her ulti's castable ahead of her and can be triggered right after. not bad for chasing run aways with a 10 second cool down and low mp cost. i suggest butterfly and buriza will really go well with this hero.. get your kills real fast and stealthy, tenchu style..
AoE spells are somethin to worry abt though.. but laguna blade, finger of death??
This hero is actually quite stupid cos its so easy to counter ... Also, it cant kill very well ... Overall lousy-ass hero
ermmmm.... what can i say about her... eerk... i think she late hero play...
early** she can harass the enemy a lot in early game with meld, then remeld. with her high armour as well, she wont be hurt easily at early game
how could i countyer this hero..??
or how could i counter meld?? 
i think if u are going to max meld, u MUST max psi blades. meld with 130 range is pretty crappy.
refreaction alone makes this hero incredible. 6 attacks do anothing, AND an extra 60 damage for 20 seconds? she's a solo goddess.
Gem of true sight or wards :D
bloodseeker owns her very easily during the early game.
could difussal blade removes refraction?
could difussal blade removes refraction?
srry for double posting.. 
Meld is a bad escape skill, if you rely on it to get you out of trouble, chances are you'll get killed. Best way to use meld is to predict where a hero is gonna stop, hide there, wait 12 secs, drop a double meld on them for 400 dmg.
Refraction actually blocks ANY damage, including spells. I went solo against tiny and it kept blocking the damage from avalanche.
Psi blades seem a little buggy, sometimes they splash, sometimes they don't. Any tips on how to get them to work constantly?
Psi blades works well. An enemy unit must be "behind" your target. not behind on the left or right. Behind. Staright line. Excellent for farming. Plus, if you align yourself perfectly, you'll hurt enemy heroes easily.
it's really stupid to under estimate this hero... lanaya's refraction is just insane. for an escape mechanism, try not to use meld or get lothar's edge for that matter. i cant emphasize this more than enough, you will get pawned when playin with pros. why? no brainer, you have meld which is like a mini vendetta. your enemies are 100% sure to get wards/ gem lest they are also stupid. dagger of escape is the way to go.. use meld offensively and wisely. psi blade is a good farmin skill but sometimes it doesnt trigger even if your opponent is right behind the creep you're attackin, i wonder why? lastly, i really beg to disagree that psionic trap is a crappy skill. low mana cost, 10 second cool down, spamable, and has an insane castin range (have you tried?). i mean, come on if i have a comment for this hero, id say she's pretty imba. in a deadly way
cool hero but i really don't get her skills.... could someone ill me in???
Bloodseeker owning her early game? Not if she uses Meld and remeld method. She needs SnY early as her hp is super low. Early game, meld near lanes and wait for heroes to get near tower and uses refraction on herself and attack the hero like crazy.
On those opponents that uses wards and gems, you should get wards to destroy their wards and evasion items such as vanguards and butterfly together with your first skill, it is very hard for them to kill you except through AoE dmg. So watch out.
Getting stygain and radiance can own alot of heroes together with meld. It is also a good support hero that can help reduces enemy hero armour, best with ranger heroes or Zeus.
Get vanguards and butterfly instead if they have attacks that can own you.
I've seen her with some great items and she's not bad, but she's no PA either. The problem is getting strong with her early game...
get lothars
go invis with lothars+meld=move next to hero with ww and meld right next to hero(and you keep invis) then you do the bonus dmg and armor deduction
PURE OWNAGE
get lothars
go invis with lothars+meld=move next to hero with ww and meld right next to hero(and you keep invis) then you do the bonus dmg and armor deduction
PURE OWNAGE
Lothars? I could understand if you want to use it to trick into thinking that you melded and can't flee so they waste around a couple of seconds. You should use meld to assassinate not flee (unless a hero is nearby and is coming towards you).
gfg
WEAK!!!
I never saw much use of the ulti except to quickly plant and detonate it in the heat of battle.
This Hero is off the Hook 0.o!!!!!!!
All skills are great :) :9
Item Build For dis hero is must for pure Ownage
1.Power Treads or BoTs
2.Vanguard
3.Desolator (works awesome wit meld) (i tink)
4.Butterfly
5.Monkey King Bar
6.Prob Lothars or Blink Dagger
One good move in early game is for 1st Blood go top or bottom lane Den Meld!!!!
Den Wait till he/she is near den hit and meld and Hit!!!!!!! 100 damage!!!!! den work your way Trust me it works more like always works for me!!! (feel free to make good or bad comments :9 0.o)
Meld + Trap, GREAT COMBO!!!!
I like this hero so much
COOOLLLLL!!!!
Good item for this hero are:
- Power Treads
- SnY
- MKB
- Butterfly
- Cuirass
- Vladimir's
MMMM...Monster Kill!!!
GODLIKE!!!
Holyshit!!!
OWNING!!!
TRIPLE KILL!!!
@RazorFever
why *vladmir´s* offering? she has ranged attack so it wont give her lifesteal.
In my opinion meld is too hard to use early cuz no range so i work on refract and psi blades early game then meld
Ahahahahahahahahaha.Vladimir's on a range hero rofl...I have seen it on enigma and enchantress and it really "works"
Ahahahahahahahahaha.Vladimir's on a range hero rofl...I have seen it on enigma and enchantress and it really "works"
*Vladmir`s Offering*
not vladimir´s
does psi blades have minor stun??
my item build for lanaya is usually like this
1.power treads
2.SnY
3.MKB
4.butterfly
5.assault cuirass
6.HoT
got pwned by sk. should get refraction early. it helps
For Lanaya:
Powers treads
Sange and Yasha
Butterfly
Monkey King Bar
Buriza
perseverence
Nothing special such a little bit weak spells but very useful for assisting! Kill the Zerg. I wish there is a 1 terran and 1 zerg. There is already a protoss so pls. invent or make a character that is a terran or a zerg.! Cool Lanaya.
Yo YO yo. She is very good in assisting. Could someone tell me, if her enemy buy Gem can they trace her fourth power?
Can someone make a strategy for her please ?
'if her enemy buy Gem can they trace her fourth power?'
yea, if you have a gem of true sight, you can see the traps. then, of course, you can see them with sentry wards as well.
I think this hero is a nice complement to the already great force of heroes that we posses. Or is this just an illusion. Do we really have spoons?... A spoon. To caress.
You follow?
I think this hero is a nice complement to the already great force of heroes that we posses. Or is this just an illusion. Do we really have spoons?... A spoon. To caress.
You follow?
@ monkeydoincrack
Why the fuck meld while windwalked, and waste the bonus damage? ww behind them, attack, meld, attack ahaha
A tad hard to use. I'd get twin Vanguards. It's funny. But that's just me.
could somone help me with dis guy? i donno how to use him
Lanaya seems like combo of Luna,Raven
Anub'rak,Squee and Spleen
I combined the items from all of those
She needs attack speed, damage and hp to stand mobs.
My build for Lanaya is:
MoM,Butterfly,Radiance,Burizado,SnY,
Boots of Travel
Its quite an odd built...yes it is coz I preferred to farm in early and assassinate the mid and late.Radiance takes care of creeps.MoM for surviving and speed,SnY for HP and MS and AR.
Radiance is for damage but optional
and cud substitute with Lothar's or MKB.
short of range but a strong agi hero
The psionic trap are so GOOD!!!! in 5 on 5
Ur teammate will get all the pawns they need
Have owned every TA I've faced with bloodseeker, nevertheless she's fun to play, usually go treads, bfly, stygian, buriza.
Hey anybody there gonna make a lanaya guide??
If so....state some builds.
Id go for Skadi radiance and butterfly btw psisonic traps has 2000 range so you can still use them while chasing
Lol id never get lothars for Lanaya....Meld is considered a WW
It saved my life if i escaped...Non End hitting heroes Like sven or Rikimaru can get bored waiting for me to move lol..
Never use meld from END hitting heroes
Like pudge or Mirana Meld is useless with them
if you get eye of skaadi it will count as ranged. she IS a ranged hero she just has an extremely short ranged attack
Lanaya is an OWNER
How does Psi Blade's 160 bonus damage work?
How does Psi Blade's 160 bonus damage work?
MoM Makes her too weak. 20% increased damage is a lot with such low hp
Lol give her a Satanic and the lifesteal stacks per hit. coooooool. skadi and deso dont stack though,
wOOt this is a great hero.
At first I got 0-3 then i built a cristalys and it worked well with psi blades. everytyme i crit while farming with creeps i get plenty of gold. Refraction is a strong skill everytyme sven uses GS i only refrac it.
I think they didn't make the ulti strong(compared to othr ultis)for the reason that her first three skills are already strong. In the end I got a 13-3 record.
starcraft lol
overpowered
i agree i think she is over powered b/c of her Refraction
@1337!!!111
MoM does make her weak but remember
to always have good regen and hp for her.
Also Madness increases speed of attack,
so its going to have faster lifesteal .
The main thing is that you can actually take risks with MoM at first and Switch on the Refract this ensures that the next 6 attacks by the opponent are overridden by it.Also use the shortcut key for Triggering Nearest Trap.
And you can always Meld or use Lothar's edge.Then you can actually stack the enemy near our tower .
P.S: Always plant atleast 5 traps per lane behind the opponent like Squee and Spleen.Hotkeys for activating them 1 second before they reach over it.
If they try to escape keep trigerring the
next trap till you finish them with refract.
Meld back if low Hp and start stalking traps for next attack
Try this out!!!...
Always max out Refraction and Psionic Blades first but have atleast one Meld.
If you want mor gold in few shots ,align yourself in imaginary line where many enemy
creeps fall in then just activate MoM.
Once the inventory is ready you should own entire waves of creeps.
I think she will be great ally alongside Drow Ranger.
LaNAya IS KInda STRong SO pLIs gIv Sum StraTegiEs
MY Item 4 Lanya Are:
SnY
BuTTerfly
CurIass
BOT
RaDiaNce
MkB
BEYOnd GODLIke
HOLY sHIT MEN TRY IT And NO one CAn BEAt U EVEN SVeN AND Any HERO!!!!!!!!!!
is maelstrom good for her ?
is maelstrom good for her ?
Wow this hero's hard to figure out. Spells dont really complement each other and items are hard to figure out for her because of her spells.
another invi hero.. shes nothing if you get sentry or tru sight.
personally, I go for stygian, boots of travel, buriza, butterflyX2, and a mask of madness or satanic
Does that mean that meld is like raigor's enchant totem? not really the same but the sense is the same meaning when you meld, the next attact will cause 200 damage to the enemy and the next hit will be normal damage?
my items for lanaya:
treads
butterfly
desolator
curlass
SnY
but lanaya is really weak on a team battle but a monster on 1v1 battle,try
not strategies... im gonna write one pfft nothing better to do
and you get desolator fools
and lothars... thats nasty stuff
I like this hero. =3
Psi Blades makes her a pretty decent creeper and Refraction is just imba. Blocking single target spells is a snap. I wonder about Pudge's Meat Hook and Rot, though.
She's really strong and I'll gonna use her whenever I play dota and I promise that! But I still need a strategy for her!!
Correction to Psi Blades.
It is not 160 bonus damage, but bonus RANGE. 240 spill, means that the damage will be dealt to units _behind_ the target within 240 range.
if u lose with this hero...ur a noob. she's toooo good....kill kill kill all the time
DEsolator + Butterfly =gg
Only 2 ways to kill her aoe gank
or buy expensive items...
But if she keeps killing u cant afford expensive items so GG.
an early game hero....specialy against low armor opponent....Meldx2 (400) damage -8armor??even w/out refraction in early game this hero KILLS!real QUICK!!and ulti good for chases 10secs cd..not too bad...but limited view if used as wards....
did anyone mention that the psi blade description here is wrong? it adds RANGE not damage.
otherwise it is VERY important to max refraction. I didnt even realize what it did until my 2nd game with her. Needless to say the first game I did poorly, but the secon,d 8-0. shes a fun hero to play.
2x vanguard is the way to go for sure, combine that with speed items (i.e Assault cuirass/butterfly) and youre money.
Bulking her up is important. Againt peolpe who know what theyre doing, she dies fast, reguardless of refraction/.
Posted by Jayzee
2007-07-11
another invi hero.. shes nothing if you get sentry or tru sight.
youre missing the point of her. Meld is more useful as a way to add damage, not really for hiding. Its an offensive skill with a defensive attitude if u get my drift.
could some1 pls make a strategy? think shes a nice hero, but im a little confused about which items to get with her.
items core:
deso
butterfly
BoT
Lanaya's a weird but cool concept obviously taken from StarCraft. Her backstab hurts, and her traps are good if used effectively.
StarCraft II, anyone?
yo guys can someone make a strat 4 her cooz i dun understand her skills.plz
she has Rikimarus invis and backstab, lunas glaive like ability, vipers slow ability, cept its like techies explosives and leviations kraken shell that needs to be casted.
pls make strat for her pls TT.TT
I say you should max Psi blades first... Lanaya is almost a melee attacking unit which makes it hard to use meld if you don't max Psi blades ^^
One more thing you can't walk with meld
maybe they should just make her range and replace the psiblades with another skill, can some1 tell me which skill and items you should get in order?
the mos timba skill - refraction 
damn she's good, but her traps are hard to maneuver
i saw a pro in my place used desolator as orb effect and man, he OWNED the other pro.... BTW, how long does meld lasts?? I mean the invisible state???
The invisibility state lasts as long as you don't move. Which means it's indefinite till your attack.
I believe it's there for patience.
Very strong early game character... Seems to be item-dependent in late games, though.
u can still hurt her even if shes invis with meld, just use aoe skills. im not sure if leshracs AoEs work though, cept for the first skill, because u need to target an area.
I prefer only level 1 of her ultimate since you don't need to plant the traps everywhere. It's much more effective if you max out her other skills first. Try putting the traps in front of a fleeing oponent and press 'T', slows the down by alot in which time for you to chase him down to death. The traps have a cast range of like a 1000+
Her skills are so imba such as refraction though it would prove useless if you're surrounded by many. with butterfly / stygian, she is one unstoppable hero..
i still wonder though, whether i should max out
meld + psi blades first pr
refraction + psiblades
or any other possibilities?
First max out
Meld + Refraction
OR
Refraction + Meld
Depend on your enemy hero.Reason why i don't max psi blade first because, if your enemy is melee, then you got 130 range it's good enough;if your enemy is range, evne when u max out psi u got 300 range but it's sitll a SHORT range compare to them. And I usually max out Meld first then refraction. when they push and being push, meld and camp and a place(dun let enemy know, then when they push near you just break out and hit them suddenly 200 is a pain at early, then refraction to boost your atk dmg and block skill then there you go ~ an easy kill. I tried this build million times and works very well...
she eats non-strength heros so fast if they get caught by themselves
played a game with her, had buriza mkb 2x vanguard and travel boots, with refraction she just killed heros with a few hits after using meld on them
id suggest get boots of travel first cuz then u can just meld and wait till its clear and tp to fountain insta heal, very effective ganker
psi blade is only for farming u know. like lunas glaives.
very nice skills
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no strategies???
Lol you only have to get wards (+ your good items) to kill her anytime you face her.
I don't think she's imba because of that.
But if you don't have any invi revealing item in 1 v 1, then don't run, don't fight, just close your eyes and rest until you revive.
I max Psi Blades first so you can farm a lot and spam your damage without moving towards the enemy hero by just attacking the leading creeps in a straight line with the hero.
If the Enemy Hero is Ranged, I maxed out Refraction.
But if the Enemy Hero is Melee, I get lvl 2 Refraction and maxed meld.
Either way I get to maxed first Psi blades coz it will give me more possibility to not move while in invi since i got longer range. And you can easily make golds with this coz this skill truly can wipe out an entire wave of creeps.
My items for this hero are Buriza, Butterfly, Treads, EoS.
Having EoS, you truly wont make the enemy hero get away from you and if the enemy hero does get away, you have your back-up plan, plant your trap. then there you go, you go pawn another hero.
And talking about traps, i get only level 1 of them. then i max out the 3 skills first then stats.
I prefer getting BoT than Threads.. Because u dont really need the attack speed coz double meld really hurts (-8 armor + 400 dmg = OUCH!) and if u used her traps properly, u can own most characters... juz use double meld, when they runaway (which they will surely do after taking 400dmg) put trap in front of them, u can surely catch up with ur BoT... OWNING!!!
By the way... Desolator+Butterfly works wonders for Lanaya....
Meld isnt really imba... U can still hurt using AoE skills... in 5-5 games, when my opponent picks Lanaya, I pick DarkSeer... He can really trash Lanaya.. With his AoE Vacuum... He can break ur meld, refraction would be useless bcoz of his Ion Shell, and Lanaya will have a hard time cathing up even if she uses her traps bcoz Darkseer has Surge (522 MS) and he'll juz runaway like flash...
Essential Item: Stygian Desolator
Corruption sucks for her aswell cuirass sucks on mortred.
She has alrdy armour reduction.
Lanaya is awesome if you know how to use her. Awesome for farming. By level 10 you are farming like a maniac. I normally max Meld first it's a wicked move. Just stick in a lone gaining xp and wait for the hero to come....Refrection = gg. My build is...
1. Power Treads
2. Desolater or Mjollnir
3. Butterfly
4. Buriza
That's all you really need...But you could fill up with more damage items if you need it. Doubt it.
I swear i read through a lot of these comments saying that Meld is IMBA has anyone used the character. Meld is okay at best because of her short range. if any of her skills are imba most deffinately would be Refraction. Makes her invulnerable for 6 hits while adding 80 damage for six hits. Ridiculous this char can 1v1 any1 easily as far as meld goes techies is the answer. her refract absorbs the damage from mines but if she melds just place landmines under her she cant move and if she casts refract she comes out of meld easy answer. as far as items go watch for my strat for her i wrote it a week or two ago hopefully they will realize they havent put one up for her yet and approve it.
Jigen.
60 damage not 80
does anyone know if refraction stops omnislash? i know meld can stop omnislash
Meld + desolator + assault cuirass = -19 amor... Ouch...
a high attack n mana efficient build of lanaya is really hard to counter..
Eventhough she is low hp, but with refration she is a little tanker ...
Omnislash hits you for x number of slashes, plus bonus slashes from the atack speed of Yurnero, so refraction will cancel out part of the damage.
F3
hmmm... maybe a counter to juggernaut then. but im not so sure about Bladefury. Bladefury is an AoE attack so it may still hurt her in Meld form and im sure Refraction only blocks targetted spells.
btw, i didnt see this b4...
directed back @ fliesnlega
the ulti IS weak. can only be used to block off escape routes, but the trick is to get behind them first to block off exits, then block off all the side exits, then create blocks on all exits after those exits. they only need to go through maybe 2-3 obstacles if u plant it at all possible exits (assumin u hav lvl 3 ulti). plus, they dont get autotriggered, u need to trigger them each manually. u can escape her by usin lothars edge, she cant see u therefore she doesnt know when to activate the traps. also if a person is slowed, they can use lothars edge to flee with 7 seconds invisibility.
nice guide..one question..is her traps like goblins techiques mines? if you walk over them do you become slow? or are they like remote mines that you have to detonate?
@kopite
you can detonate them.
when hero is running throw trap to fog of war and press t.
1:power thread
2:vaguard
3: stygian desolater
4: kelens dagger of escape( to get away from 5 ppl waiting for you to get off yor meld)
5: buriza
6: butterfly
gg
LoL the ulti is NOT WEAK. The fact that it has insane casting range, ridiculously low mana cost and cooldown more than makes up for everything else.
i've been using this char for some time now, i thought is sucked the first time but after seeing someone use it, well..
refraction
5 instances of not receiving damage +
additional damage reaching up to 80
- good for 1on1s,
meld
lasting invisibility, initiative attack
and escape
- +200 damage max level, -8 armor
psi blades
- dumb heroes wont tell was is hitting them, just like magnotour's
traps
- you can use this while pursuing an enemy, not just waiting for them to come there, 10 sec cooldown and an insane range, damn
plz make a strat for her
THIS CHAR RAPES!!!!
Too imba against most heroS.. Unless they get gem or lots of wards.. But radiance owns her.. Refract stops six damages.. Those are countered by radiance...
Meld works in this way.. You Meld and stay in the same place for as much time as you want.. It synergies wid psi blades as your range ll improve.. Low cool down means you can double Meld an opponent .. Though mana might be a problem.. Early game Meld trick.. When your creeps have gone upto opponent tower.. Just fall a bit back and move outside the range of hero to the area where you predict the next creep wave fight ll take place.. and Meld just in the place you feel the opponent hero would stay to get experience.. Wait for hero .. Attack and refract and keep attackin .. Late gameS.. Wid team battles just stay in behind the tank.. Meld hit refract and click Meld again if cool down over.. Gg.. Aoe stun are worst enemies..
I like her.. She pwns heroes that think they can chase you...
I'm red hp, against Omniknight, I use meld, once omni gets to me (or where he thinks I am), attack, then refract then kill.
Impossible to kill is what she is... Especially w/ vanguard and butterfly...
I like her.. She pwns heroes that think they can chase you...
I'm red hp, against Omniknight, I use meld, once omni gets to me (or where he thinks I am), attack, then refract then kill.
Impossible to kill is what she is... Especially w/ vanguard and butterfly...
i wish lanaya's range would improve.
even though you maxxed out her psi blades her range isn't that much. she's strong but if she could have much better range she could be much better to use. because her defense is very weak its very hard to fight other long range enemies at the beggining of the game.
even though her range was poor. she's very strong with her abilities to upgrade her damage and with her traps to slow her enemies down.
my items for Lanaya:
1.Power Treads
2.Stygian Desolator
3.Vanguard
4.Monkey King Bar
5.Butterfly
6.Buriza or another Vanguard
She is just the best char i've ever seen in DOTA
What's the best item to use for Lanaya? Somebody got an idea?
how we use Psionic trap??
mana and hp regen dont show, neither does atk cd
ei... does someone knows w/c are the spells/attacks that can pass thru her refract??? like,, veno's poison strike.. etc.. tnx!
skills like poison, hunger, etc will go through refract, as will most spells in general. lvl 4 meld DOES NOT stack with deso, so only get it to lvl 3. traps are easily used while chasing, simply place one infront of the person your chasing, which should be easy since they have huge cast radius, and a big slow radius, then press 't' to set it off. t as soon as you cast it, and just repeat until theyre dead. Meld isnt the greatest skill around, never just sit around. only stay in one spot, AoE will pwn you.
Hard-to-use hero. Basically her skills reflect her name: Assassin. Many of her skills are ideally for 1v1 battles. Plant psionic traps where you think the unsuspecting fool will come, Meld to become invisible, Refraction for bonus assassin dmg. I believe Psionic traps also have a limited use as wards.
I'm not a fan of assassin heroes (other than anubarak) so i liave you to figure out what items to buy for her.
I've tried a crit build for TA, refract doesn't multiply :(
Skadi is sweet for TA, especially considering I've fed for the early game still make a comeback worth remembering thanks to Skadi
I like Lothars because you can WW, sneak up to someone, meld... attack, meld... attack.
PSI BLADES IS LOVE! 240 spill is more than it seems, even if the area isn't that large. You can make quick work of lines of lane creeps or neutral creeps if u angle it right. 100% SPILL!
in my opinion this hero is great on 1on1s or even in team games...my item build for her is MoM,BoT,,lothars,butterfly...MoM is great when the enemy is running or attacking coz refraction blocks damage for 6instances+additional of 60 damage at lvl 4..meaning no additional damage(caused by the berserk of MoM) for 6instances and more damage on the enemy(not to mention the life steal)...when running MoM has a boost on her MS + her ulti...u can actually run-meld on the enemy lothars(optional,coz it can be countered w/ a cheap item called gem of true sight../sigh) is for surprising and hiding combined w/ meld...BoT&Butterfly
u know the use...
seriously,,
what are the best items she could possibly use??
items could be
Power threads always
vanguard optional or hood if the enemy is int
Desolater for full minus armor
buriza for critical
Cuirass for minus armor aura
the others are optional it's yours to decide
he is one of my fav
i think d reason they didn't put to much range to her is because of her meld ability... meld will be to much to handle if she has about 400-600 range... meld+psyblades 290 range can already hurt... meld let it cool down be sure d hero is in your range atk meld atk and thats 400 dmg minus armor... psy blades is a must 2 make meld effective...
This chick is so annoying.
Dark seer, Crix, And Leshrac are her only real enemies.
That damn meld, with refract on deals like 400 damage. She killed my silencer who was at about 750 life in 3 hits with refract on, she was already melded, she attacked, melded again, attack, and then chased me down.
Plus she can control an entire lane, and 2 even with her ulti (2 lanes is hard, but with traps at max rank I've seen it done).
Juggernut is a huge pain if your lanaya because of his spin.
You meld + Jugernut spin = death
nyahahaha...lanaya is so paper den try 2 vanguard it once...den deso is gud 2 kill 2 heroes at tym..
Yea, DESOLATOR ftw, because of her armour (-ve) attacks she pwns against int heroes with her attack speed involving her MKB next. Get treads. No need 4 a butterfly til l8 game because of her ability to kill opponents fast. Then get butterfly or Hyperstone though Butterfly is more affective because of the damage evasion and agility bonus. DONT BUY TANK ITEMS EARLY GAME! (This will definetly screw up your team's chances of winning. (if only she had a melee attack with a bash lol.) gg
I read there is a bug on Lanaya in 6.49b
that's quite cool btw
1. Bot/Pt
2. Deso
3. Ac
4. Linkens
5. Buriza
6. Butterfly
Meld is useless with psi-blades. Refraction and psi-blades is a must for escaping and farming early. Max them out before maxing out meld.
stacking meld with basilus is brokenish, but I keep trying to do it too often.
1 hit killing centaur is hilarious though.
basilus breaks ur invis, but not ur meld, however if you break invis and then re-apply meld then you have 2 melds at once. This stacks indefinitely.
When you hit it will only say you did one meld of damage, but you can tell by enemy's health that this is not the case.
hahaha when he
meld when the broodmother spits a web he seen
Good strat, 7/10
What a sick bug for her. Meld ftw. Pure pwnage with just a RoB.
she can lauch great combo if she get BKB..
set 2-3 trap in battlefield
activate
refract
meld
attack
activate
meld
attack
avatar
activate
what a great hero!!
A new must!
Get into a lane with Templar and with a str based stunner (Dragon Knight, Sven, Cent Warchief) then allow them to stun and with lvl 3 meld 150 damage, then repeat! 150 damamge. Fb easy
errr...
what skill i must up first when use this hero hah??
confuse???
Look at her 1st to 3rd skill
2 effect every skill that's so Imba.
Great hero ! The moment I purchased vanguard + refraction(skill) on early game, I seem like immortal. ha ha! and don't forget Lanaya have Meld skill which is very deadly. haha. i like all her skill. ulti is very nice with low mana cost and rapid cooldown.
Basically a hero not for beginners...since you had to be quick, fast an accurate with this hero. Timing is everything on this one. But pratice won't hurt anyway ^^
Items i got for
1. Boots of travel
2. Vanguard
3. Desolator
4. Cuirass
5. Radiance
6. Butterfly
This would be late game items...Always remember with assassin heroes TIMING is EVERYTHING!
She's excellent for taking out Int type heroes... With Meld and Refraction(along with Desolator and Cuirass)[>>that's a whopping -21 armor], heavy nukers like Lion and Lina are NOTHING, like a hot knife through butter...
no offense to Icefrog the guys that made DotA but this is totally copied from Starcraft. If you don't believe me go search it up and download it if you want. If you did go play a game, be the protoss and train zealots the unit description will say something about psi blades and the zealot home world is also called Auir.
Does anybody have an idea of what items to use for Lanaya to pull off an instant kill?
only way to play this hero smart is to get ring of regen very quick and dip to a lane quick b4 anyone gets there and hide so ur enemies dont know ur there but other than that i have nvr EVER seen anyone good with this girl EVER! every time i fight her or go against her she will die so much that she just feeds like crazy^^ fo my team with nightstalker i will pwn her any time of day, too easy to kill and spells are not as good as they sound...... i played her once and im nvr playing as her again. this is the ONLY hero in dotA that im not good with, against pros at least....
ok KrayZspYne... u dont know the fact that she doesnt get hit at all if u have refract. lanaya is such a beast. i dont even hide when i use her. i run in n hurry up n meld right next to em n attack
if they run then oh well, just trap thembc u can cast it in front of them n then set it of bc it'll be the closest one considering ur running towards it. if they turn around and attack instead, just activate refraction u get 6 hit that do ZERO DAMAGE. just keep attacking bc they have low armor they will probably try to run again or if they try to kill u... meld's cooldown should have refreshed. n then just meld n attack right next to em n keep attacking or just do the 1st steps aftr waiting a while for refration to refresh if u wanna be safe
also the traps have such a low cooldown that u can spam them in front of u or behind u for getaways
[NOTE: ur gonna want the lvl 4 psi blades though bc the range helps a lot]
=]
but ya KrayZspYne, lanaya is good. use laelions strategy but dont get vanguard just get stouts n then if u have money from all the kills u have, then get vanguard plus image ppl suck balls when ur in their lane but getting a long range enemy isnt as bad as u think =]
btw in version 6.49c, lanayas meld doesnt stack for 400 dmg it was an exploit n now its fixed so shes not as godlike ne more... but then again i never stacked em bc i dont play they "shy" lanaya. i play the ima-run-up-in-ya-face-n-f**k-ya lanaya
Lanaya is so easy to counter... but she is a late gamer. early game just need to farm well. heroes like Lina Inverse,Death Prophet, Lightning Revenant, or with Heroes with Aoe Skillscan pawn her easily in early game.
I heard that this hero has a cheat..!
@ikaris alright i take back everything i said bout her being bad ^^ i tried using her yesterday in a random match just cuz i was bored and wow... lawlz against clinkz, that was funny, all i really had to do was hide next to him and he'd stand there like an idiot and i just attacked him with blades range thing, plus 200 damage.... wow i'll say i nvr even had to use my ult ever in that whole game, my team consisted of techies, lanuya me, tiny, razor, and rhasta... funny stuff and even greater we were up against all intel heros, to make it better i ksed a lot too ^^ finally i nvr died once but just the fact that they constntly attacked the spot where u hide all i had to do was buy othars and it was funny watching them attack thin air anyways ya everyone that ive seen play as her nvr win but dam i pwned face . get RoR early and either boots or clarity potoins and all u gotta do is dip to the start line early so no one knows ur there and then u can straight pwn them once u get hide up to lvl 3 and blades lvl 2 specially someone like pugna, anyways ya i had to test her one last time and i was def happy with results, and her ult btw is amazing even tho i nvr used it in that match ^^
oh one more thing, TECHIES!!! they will UBERly stomp ur face in early if ur using her so stay away from them, they just plant mines next to u and one mine will take u half hp left or if they are stupid they can just run up to u and blow up and kill u... i just thought about this strategy so now i got all this down ^^
HAHAHHAHAHAAHAH???? SKADI
HAHAHHAHAHAAHAH???? SKADI ug DESSO mo effect ba di ay lalaki??????? pag chur daw???
What i like 2 this hero is that it is a great killer!!!
What i don't like is it always meld and meld and meld and meld...!!!
ok pud Cya!!!
wow!..i like this hero....this hero should not be banned...why?..because that was her strategy or shall i say design for her to kill hero or even roshan in just one hit.....
this hero is a shit.. can 1 hit roshan even in level 1.. wat more if she is in higher lvl.. can deal damge almost 4000+ in jst 1 hit.. this char shud be balanced and repair skill..
how do u kill roshan in one hit
My items for lanaya would be
HOD
MKB
HELM ( depends )
DESOLATOR
BUTTERFLY
bottle, treads, desolator, GG
Kill roshan in one hit? You need to max out meld, then buy ring of bacillus and mana regenerating items. you need to be stunned by roshan first then meld and w8 for him to turn his back. Then just use bacillus ring then meld again. After about 50 charges you can kill him.
OMG!! they increased cd on trap to 14sec in the new version, 6.50.
it was so annyoing i coudnt use traps as many times as i wanted to..
i only use 1 item for her. RING OF BASLIUS. Why, try clicking meld and basilius alternatly without moving. Keep doing it until your bored then attack an hero or roshan on your place without moving. Defenitely 1 hit. ahihihi
MELD FIRST
Pmbihira kng marunong lang 2 mga gumamit ng lanaya, mki2ta lng n2 ung lakas nya.. pmbihira c centaur warchief nga, nka deso ako en butterfly double meld lng gnwa ko ung buhay nging 1/4! partida d p ko nka refract nun ah! e d kng nka refract ako patay kgad ung centaur! nka tarrasqe p un!
Ha, ang tindi ng character na to pag tama yung build mo sa kanya, tignan nyo yung 3rd skill, medyo ok lng, may damage na, tpos naka desolator, butterfly, power treads, assault cuirass, Buriza tpos Skadi, ha patay k d2 kay lanaya, grabe, yung meld nya, dedo ka pag tinamaan ka! haha May bawas armor pa, tpos ang bilis nyang tumira, naku tuloy tuloy n yang banat, nya, patay k pa!
extremely imba
lupeman....your a fukin noob thats wat i can say....u dont know sht..... tu just keep on posting shit fr all heroes......so stfu
this guy roxs...
go for meld and refraction for starter..
then get 1 deso....
erm...
then get assault...
to counter nukers, get HOD..
that will be -19 armor...
ouch!
i just dunno how to use her effectively guys,
this hero is super IMBA, but only if u can use her properly... i watch championship replays quite often, and i saw this guy using lanaya, killing most of the enemy heroes with only 2 hits each...
*key to pawnage: a dagger & a desolator
this is how he played:
1. activate refraction
2. lay trap below target hero
3. detonate
4. blink to the target's side
5. meld, then directly attack for the effect
6. see how ridiculous is the damage
7. attack again (just once more to pawn int heroes)
i suggest wen killing a hero use the double meld trick first u must activate meld den w8 4 the culdown nd wen an enemy hero comes near atak it nd use meld again 4 another atak
I suggest MoM + Butterfly + vanguard for her.
shes a good hero to use but i just wish her ulti will be improved like increase the slow status longer
Just played a game and she was dealing 1254 damage on some of her hits. Ridiculous ridiculous stuff.
One hitted me a bunch of times.
well,lanaya is not good in the early round, she needs some gud teammates to help her boost,..
meld+meld+meld+meld+mled,..
always use meld till you lose all mana any hero will pass near to her will be hit only ONCE!!!
i have tried it,it can 1 hit roshan too,..
best items would be,..
1.Pt
2.Deso
3.Butterfly
4.SnY(even if it doesn't stack you have +asp & msp...)
5.Linken
6.Heart or AC,..
this hero sucks, even shes invisible, she still can be hit by the blade of fury, storm seeker and burrow stun, even without true sight.
one way to counter her meld is razor's storm, that hits all units near him. even lanaya when she is melding
Hate her beginning range-annoying when enemies attack
i had a full lina spam combo come at me today (laguna (+agh) + dagon, fresher)
0 dmg... i loled
Someone pls tell me what is with dmg from Psi Blades ? the skill adds range and dmg , where is and to how is that dmg dealt ?
the best item for her is Desolator... my friend kciked my ass when he used lanaya with Desolator my armor went very low
The best item for her :
1 - Power Treads ( Agility )
2 - Stygian Desolator
3 - Vanguard
4 - Lothar's Edge
5 - Buriza-do Kyanon
And if you pwn and your getting rich buy : Butterfly, second vanguard, second Buriza-do Kyanon and whatever you want !
Can someone give good items to her??
I really need suitable items to her IN SINGLE BATTLE OR MULTIPLE BATTLE...
- guyz, try to use lothars. why, just easy... many of us hard to have critical strike of the meld because of her range. by simply of thi combo:
1. lothars(go to the enemy)
2. meld(then critical strike)
3. psionic trap(for chasing)
4. refraction(for anti dmg)
i'll bet to use SY, for maim and HP,MS,AS...that's all folks.
Simple best hero in game. i have seen that there is only little part of players on public servers that can use Refraction right. Meepo is only tot bad hero against. Refraction dosnt last long when they all hit :)
Pcionic traps is not supposed to lay all over the map :) simply use only when U need to slow enemy who fleet.
try:
pt
deso
butter
mkb
buriza
cuirass
- guyz, her psionic trap is good for obeserving like observer wards. Let us see, when you have psionic trap + observer wards is like you travel the whole map...just in time. It is good for hunting but wasting in the cost of wards.
Use cuirass, desolator, treads, yasha, buriza. I don't know if you can use deso and skadi
Worst Hero EVER... wats psi blades even do!?!??!?!?!?!
U must be really really new ^
Psi blades can extend your range and can hit other creeps or heroes at the back of your target. It's just like battle fury but only at the back of your target
Early game skill choice? I'm at a loss as to what is most effective...
Meld seems to require psi blades, so you could go psi/meld/psi/meld/psi/trap/psi/meld/meld?
But refract can be very powerful... What goes with refract? Meld past level 1 is useless without psi blades no? So refract/meld/refract/psi/refract/trap/refract/psi/psi/psi?
But then you cant do much with refract without attracting creeps, seems too defensive...
I must say 1 pt into meld to dodge projectile spells ftw?
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