NICE! i like the idea of having a 2nd scepter...I dont know if the idea of having evasion as an aura isnt too imba...does the evasion stack with butterfly on other heroes? or other abilities?

Hmm, pretty nice hero. But i'm kinda confuse with the ulti. So, it has radiance aura and evasion aura during the day? Or... please explain it

First of all, well done ... seems a very refreshing type of hero..my only worry would be that being an agi hero.. he has 2.8 agi gain which is higher than razor... but also has a relatively high str gain of 2.1 which is again higher than razor.... maybe that may cause some imbaness... this is only in my opinion and i'm quite new to dota ... so please feel free to correct me :)... and again 9/10 for a well thought out hero

Nice, Very cool hero. Hes somewhat imba though. I mean, you'd see his whole team have a bfly and they are not vulnerable to physical attacks. Well, i enjoyed reading it, good job

I dunno about the evasion of the ulti,rad, and butter fly think about it 20%(In day with rad) + 7% from Rad and 30% from b-fly you have a grand total of 57% evasion. more then half the attacks directed at him will miss.

yea this guy fair gd. like the story the most tho
im not sure bout his ulti...kinda silly idea and imba..i think
argh confuzion

so fucking nice the best idea here and item synergy is sick!!! great job man

this violates all rules of dota, evasion isnt suppose to stack, the higher chance overrides any items or passive skills. PA's passive evasion is overridden by butterfly, it doesnt stack, so why should you be able to stack evasion in an aura nonetheless with radiance?

i haven't read your hero idea yet. i haven't rate it yet too. but i just want to say first that:

1. ghost? hero idea???

2. this should be good or else... sigh.


3. i'm very excited to read.

here goes!!!

reactions:

1. story is good and entertaining. you should also work on "fan fictions", you have potential in it. but it is damn long and for sure it exceeded the warcraft's standard character limit on the heroes' description.

2. your hero picture look cool. where did you get that? i hope it's not plagiarized.


3. flat edge looks like claymore. coincidence?

questions:

1. is flat edge a free spell (no manacost) when trigerred by continuous motion?

2. does lunge works on allies?
i hope it's not a silly question.
*facepalm*

3. you don't suggest basher?
with all his skills, he can somewhat permastun. DPS-er, yes he can.

add more features such as suggested skill build, item build, early/mid/late game strategy, more good allies and worst enemies.

yes, i'm demanding. coz i'm almost satisfied but i felt i want some more.

...zzz.

Would Lunge get rid of obstacles in the way like Grapple? The ulti would be good in team battles, giving your whole team some evasion, but I don't think it should stack with other items. With Butterfly at lvl 3 it would give close to 50 evasion right? That would be too much.

Uhmm..I think it is nc hero idea^^..

i think this hero will be TOO imba... 2.8 agil + isane skills + mass evasion and bash.. wtf!! :S W00T!

10/10

Pls put this hero in next version icefrog..

Oh and one question.. 10 attacks with continous motion lvl 4 triggers flat edge.. but flat edge has cooldown 120 seconds.. what happens when you attack again, and reach the 200% AS buff.. flat edge should be on cooldown, do you get the 200 dmg back on yourself?

He might need a slight nerf... but i guess anyone intergrating him into DOTA would do that.. he IS a little imba..

But lovely hero...

that's odd. the author is not responding to our comments. let's give him a LUNGE!!!

btw Ghost. how do you pronounce the name of this hero???
mik - zis - lauw?
mi - zis - lauw?
me - shiz - low?

...zzz.

Very good job
10/10
and for those who dont understand his ulti, i think that its more like this
lets say lvl 1: you get 8% evasion without radiance, 12% with radiance, and 6% at night if you have radiance

keep on men

ok i am here.
lets see amazing i thought, now maybe another one of my heroes would get aproved if, you know, added a discussion section.
amazingly it worked so i might do that to the rest of the.

first things first about the ultimate, the evasion provided by radiance on its own is 8% and applies only to you, the ultimate is a chance to miss aura which gets some buffs from radiance, such as functionality at night and larger values during the day.
so yes, it does stack with butterfly

as said, 57% evasion, is this imba?
well if we were for instance to take a look at everyones favourite tank, panda we see excess of 80% evasion and he is a tank.
another would be darkterror who gets 25% from a non ultimate passive that works 100% of the time and even dodges spells.
so not horribly imba.

flat edge has a typo, the cooldown and manacost are mixed up.

Stats, he is a melee agility spell caster (when you look at the overall scheme of things)
therefore he needs some health and damage

questions ect:
quale.
the story was written by mangoman, he is my story writing person, he writes stories for the heroes i make that he likes, when he has time (keres also had her story written by him) they also have a habit of being both long and entertaining.

i get all my icons from the hive workshop, a free icon and model source for mapmakers and the like.

flat edge was a big looking sword that just happened to be at the hive, this icon was provided by blizzard entertainment i think

flat edge is free when it triggers of continuous motion

lunge as of yet does not work on allies, as it would probably imply running them through with a MASSIVE BLADE, which doesn't sound very fun.

i mention basher above in the synergy section, i despise bashers as is probably made clear by my comment about it there.

i will eventually add more features.

lunge traverses all terrain and knocks down trees in your path, this is in the description of the skill.

and his name is pronounced...

..
mike-slaw
sorta...
thats the best way i could spell it before going into actual phonetics.

Haha, your second skill says:

Mana cost: 15
Cooldown: 120

Are you serious? Or mixed up?

2nd skill:
flat edge:
mana:15
cooldown:120....
...
mana req. is 15! and the cooldown is like an ulti of some heroes!!...."120!!!"
u'll wait for 120 secs. just to do
a knockback of 400 and 200dmg.WTF?!

Not original at all!!! first spell is the same as beastmaster's third, just that it goes to 200% and BM's up to 100%.2nd spell is bara's greater bash just castable and a bit useless. 3rd spell is Lightning grapple, and it can be used as blink, similar to Leap. And ulti is plain horrible. For ultimate that gives u 24% dodge against physical attacks, that doesn't work at night, and it's lvl 16!!! Well Void has 25% protection from spell and physical attacks + it works even if it's night, and he...

... he can get it at lvl 7 while u get weaker version at lvl 16??? Crap

i agree this inst original, not "at all", but quite

this is just the impression i had on clockwerk, neither too good nor too bad, nice synergy and stuff.

i am tempted on your skill build, this hero is armed by 2 non-early game skill, too high of a cd and aspd is useless. stats+lunge leveling is ideal, but problems arises with the CM+FE synergy, it seems that FE isnt as reliable as you think, neither early or late. i suggest buffing it in some sort, like making CM having improving effects on FE

i twas shocked this got approved instead of the snow wolf(kinda) ones, 7/10

0_0 imo imba ult

Wow.. mechanics of trying to code in that would be.. absolutly staggering.. here's how it would go:
If % chance for enemies to miss:
Basically places a debuff on all enemies in AoE, and aside from their misses, everything else would work as normal

If % chance to nullify damage (like dispersion, aphotic shield, borrowed time, dispersion): Would stack with those abilities (abaddon could be healed for double whatever damage is dealt to him :o) and stacks with butterfly. Butterfly evasion

doesn't stack with radience evasion, so new trigger similare to aghanims would have to be set up just for radience to improve thsi heros ult.

If it's a % evasion aura (as said in skill description):
Wouldn't stack with butterfly or radience. Butterfly would take precedence for any ally holding one, and they'd get the same evsion while under the effect of ur ult as they would without. Wouldn't stack with any of the skills mentioned in above post. Would stack with debuffs placed on enemy.

(such as blind or drunken haze). New trigger would have to be set up to check for rad, (this is actually the case everytime, even though i didnt mention in first post:D).

Other than the programming problems, I like the idea. Skills not 100% original, but they're all changed around to be different. If ulti is scripted as in scenario one, it's not weak or balanced, its far imba, especially with abaddon or void on ur team.
Really like, 10/10

edit: i mean scenario 2. if it's scripted as a chance to nullify damage ur ult would be best, especially if they make it stack on top of backtrack and other mentioned skills, the coding for them makes it awesome. The damage gets dealt, and then healed. so having them stack is how abaddon heals himself while in borrowed time and shield. :)

zz people don't read the cooldown and manacost on flat edge are mixed up.

yes skills all have base skills.
you might not have noticed but leviathans ulti is impale casted 15 times.
nevermores ulti is carrion swarm casted up to 15 times.

next thing is that this hero was made for a competition with VERY SPECIFIC criteria to conform to it you really do need to delve into already existing spells.

lunge is neither as good or as useful as leap or grapple.

"first spell is the same as beastmaster's third, just that it goes to 200% and BM's up to 100%.2nd spell is bara's greater bash just castable and a bit useless."

yes but with BM you can achieve easy permabash with this, but with this its 10 hits to set of another skill for free making it infinitely less reliable as it knocks them away AND you need to start again.

then you complain about the free spell, its just greater bash but castable.
its greater bash on every nearby enemy, i stole this..

idea from super smash brothers.
because clearance moves are useful, weak in most situations but useful otherwise.

Divine Blade
"...most importantly it lets him see his own beautiful reflection when he isn't in battle..."

sounds like gay.


ok, when you said LUNGE can knock down trees, does that include FURION's SPROUT?

Very nice hero, the most original I've ever seen. Perfect skill synergies.

P.S. : I h8 elves ^^.

Hmm I was thinking just now, and shouldn't his ulti be affected by A. Scepter? Even though Radience makes more sense from a logical perspective (shiny stuff in the dark make things lighter, etc) IMO there shouldn't be items (except Scepter, which would be the exception) that a hero sort of _needs_

Just a thought.

Oh yeah, and Void is imba regardless of his Evasion

But didn't know Panda's evasion was so high.

lol pandas evasion is that high, he gets 75% (i think) from getting you drunk and 28% from brawler, through amazing multiplicative laws we get something around 80%
brood mother also gets similar to void (another imba hero example) fro bite which gives a 25% chance for affected unit to miss, this naturally stacks well with butterfly.

umm @quale...
whats wrong with that, look at his pretentious face.
say he isn't

as for knocking down sprout...
i don't think it should, we need to lock this guy up

update soon where i can fix the mix up in flat edge and all the typos in my rushed discussion.

@CF[x]
snow wolf isn't likely to be published until i give him a discussion.

try to reduce mieczyslaw's story in the introduction, it's really too long. maybe a summary then you can put the whole story in your discussion section.

very nice hero 9/10

i think i will leave the story long, there is no way a DS hero will make it as far as DotA so it doesn't really matter.

*Hovers over latest hero to view stats*
*Description window has a scroll bar*

Well it would be funny if it did... Uh, Ghost knows what I think of this hero so I need not say it.
And yes, guys, he knows about the typo.

and all the other typos

Great!! i like the synergy between his skill & items and... his intro story
another hero ideas masterpiece!!
10/10 for this masterpiece

very good hero.

Yay! I also like this hero :)

You keep on mentioning imba heroes that have crazy evasion and whatnot (void, broodmom, etc.) so why did you make one that could make them even more imba? :P

Imagine Troll's blind on top of all that... You won't take any damage!

Dream team:
Brood
Void
Troll
Panda

It's imba because it affects all your teammates, not just because it has a high evasion rate on its own

@cowlickman

you should add Riki on that team. Smokescreen FTW!

@Ghost

i vaguely recall seeing this in the Dream Heroes section...wasnt this part of some contest that Bard Man made?

anyways, nice hero idea! did you know that you have some typos? ^^

BTW, i know that you know that you have some typos in your hero idea so i hope you know that im just doing this to your hero idea so you remember to fix the typos in your hero idea so you can make your hero idea correct to you, you know?

Ghost, you haven't updated this! lazy?
...zzz

wow! nc hero! BTW the 3rd skill is kinda familiar..hmm,DMC's stinger??

when you reach 200% Mieczyslaw casts Flat Edge
has to change to 100%
i will give 9,5/10

nah its not a matter of imbaness just no riginality or creativity unless for the story that its not urs 6/10 for me

update wont be coming till about the 1st of the month.
capped net fails me miserably and im not about to spend 4 hours trying to fix 8 or so typos.

very good.. i like ur idea.

Thats an awesome hero.

Looking forward to this guy being in the next version.

(Hopefully) :P.

Good job.

thats one awesome hero.

4 minutes later......

WOOT LOADS

anyway thanks for the positive feedback

oh and yes, naturally i made a hero with potential imba stacking with other heroes.

hell i made a hero with 100% evasion.
if i ever get around to giving him a discussion i hope you see him.

THIS HERO FIRST SKILL IS REALLY SIMILAR TO REXXAR SKILL. .

Well you know Bard Man's opinion of the hero. He left it in the Forum, but here's a request.

Minjor credit to Bard Man for the inspiration! =/

the first skill is like Rexxar's EXCEPT it resets back to ZERO when you change targets and it can also cast Flat Edge. So it IS different. Similar, but not the same.


Just thought of something:

A well timed/placed Lunge and Flat Edge can work very nicely with Techies' mines ^^

that would be a sick combo

1st skill... means i'm figthing creeps.. and if i see u... u can't run!!! lol!

lol bard man in edit i will credit you for making this hero so damn limited in possibility.
and thus making me think more out of the box than i usually do when making heroes.
and by out of the box, who makes heroes who have the sole purpose of moving a random other hero 2000ft away from the battle.
can i say it won the challenge..
well there was no winner so technically as we all won, i won.

techies synergy..
i can see that.

very good idea..5 out of 5!!

i want to try using this hero!!!!!

this hero rocks!hope to see this hero in 6.54!!haha!

@other comments about miss
please read my posts above, it depends how it's coded.. but if its a negative buff on enemies, it would only stack diminishingly with things like drunken haze, smokescreen, blind, etc.. or it won't stack at all.

Very Well Thought Out Hero Only Concern is that Stat Gain is a liitle High And That Skills May need a little ajusting but in all great hero idea, and yes i think hes sexy xD

nice update

BTW, you should write a story and add a discussion to all the hero ideas you have. A lot of them are good but they either have no story, no discussion, or have none of both

if this was a real Dota hero i'd play him just cause he seems like a fun hero to play as

10/10

i think it is imba,,the increase in attack speed is so great, the evasion aura is quite imba, because bf+aura+radiance can stack a lot of evasion, especially for mortred.

there is no way to make it stack with drunken haze and incapacitating bite.
it is designed to be a debuff based on curse.

this makes your most imba ally void.
because they wont make his evasion real evasion meaning he get 25% by 30% of 75% and 14-28% of that.

diminished stacking but be thankful we can't also add haze. and bite.
imba team much?

@dohyun
i am on it, slowly giving my heroes stories and discussions.
hell i am writing my own stories.
my favourite discussion so far is: laaattterrrrr

I'm sorry that you've spend so much time in this hero.I really appreciate that BUT this hero is simply broken.
First statswise 2nd Skillswise.
I mean evasion aura gimme a break.
Attackspeed increase per attack .. nuff said. :

nice character!! kinda imba though... his ultimate is very imba.. an evasion aura??? with a radiance effect?? you also need to change the hero's icon and his name.... too hard to pronounce.. lol..

glad to know you are writing stories and working on your other hero ideas

NICE AND ORIGINAL

updated i see

9/10

-1 for confusing me with FE ^_^

yeah sorry cf[x]
^_^
if you want to be confused look at my hero cain - the mercenary.
a hero that can swap teams.
ultimately the team he fights for is the same but still.

oh and he has an ulti that is guaranteed to kill someone.

hmm, updated?

you missed a typo-
"...i spose those INT heroes you counered with that BKB".

spose?
counered?

spose is awesome short hand, i use it all the time

countueredf lhf or whatever.. will be fixed.

eh ult isnt a bad idea... but the fact that its an aura kinda irks me
also im not so used to the new idea of radiance being the new scepter

where is this changelog then?

make this hero in 6.54 for god's sake!!haha!

make this hero in 6.54 for god's sake!!haha!

"I'm guessing some nub will be convinced that this is a fantastic combo.
well, I will add it BUT, if you use it, you are kind of pathetic.
bashing fails, use something productive, like Bruiza instead."

Its's Buriza, not Bruiza.
either way, i want this hero!!

Good hero idea until we get to the ultimate which is broken. The ultimate has to stop being an aura or not stack with other evasion effects to be more balanced.

lame

lol i wonder how they would react to the evasion skill of arman...
just so you know it has the potential to reach 100%

but yeah, until void gets a real evasion skill.
this ultimate is not broken.

WOW!!! nicce hero but i think the ultimates abit too imba?

It is beyond me why this is rated five star. This is so bad... very, very overpowered autoattacker with an immense attack speed/damage output along with a nasty knockback nuke for 200, holy crap. Not only that but he's sitting on extremely high evasion (28 is ridiculous, and wait, an AURA?) and he has a skill that can exploit the crap out of Dota. I mean he can do a 700 forward blink that nukes for what I bet is pure damage and moves other heroes.
So what, he has Storm Spirit's ulti on 18 sec

18 sec cooldown and damage? Not to mention your strategy section is hardly thought out, very short comments, badly organized.

And what's this? You say bashing fails? If this hero was bashing he'd be unstoppable.

Sorry but this isn't a 2/10 or a 3/10 or something. This is a straight 1/10. If I could go negative I would.

Oh what, the 200 damage knockback is an AOE?! Lol, creep farming made easy with a Radiance. This hero cannot be reworked. He's just broken. Overpowered, broken. If you tweaked the numbers it would do nothing to save you. You'd just need to overhaul him.

I bet you got a lot of this from that movie Hero : |

Oh, and by the way, learn a little something about dota before making a hero, because when I read your green responses it is clear you have no idea about a thing.

Especially when you say this guy is an 'agility spell caster.' He's an autoattacker with two passives and one spell that appears to be free if you autoattack enough, right?

This isn't a spellcaster. At all. And needing life makes no sense when he has 28% evasion - that IS his defense. Gear up. Bracers have a use you know.

sigh i guess i will be pressing the report button, own this noob.

"Utilising the size and weight of the blade, Mieczyslaw lets inertia take effect, attacking faster with each hit."

As long as we're rewording descriptions, inertia means resistance to motion. In other words, the force that slows something down. You're probably mixing it up with momentum.

inertia is the tendency for objects to keep doing what they are doing.
if an object is rolling, it is easier to keep it rolling than to stop it.
if an object is at a stand still, it is easier to not move it than to move it.

Nice Hero 10/10 bro GWGWGWGW
DotA FTW

People, this hero isnt gay at all lol.
Look at other heroes, for example Centaur, he has a gd stun to make sure ppl cant escape. But, this hero doesnt have one bit of any limiting of MS or immobilsing apart from items.

Overall, Nice hero, like your rest.
But theres tough competition out there!

Sorry for double posting, but I forgot about Lunge and knockback. Then again, the knockbacks dont have a stun, unlike other Heroes' knockbacks, like barathum's GB.

ghost's hero got approved :p
gj

An alternate way to have an aghanim''s on a hero... you never cease to come up with new innovations!

not really a complete innovation.
others have tried to do it before.
just not very well (generally they just take the radiance effect and buff it) which essentially is an item synergy rather than an item buffer.

@bloodcraft.
hero number 2 up.
still i was expecting to see the Tundra Wolf up first...
oh well.
by actually completing my heroes in my strategies properly there is a greatly improved chance they will be published ^_^

a note about knockback.
ideally
cant stress that word enough, they will be knocked back at twice the speed (distance/second) wise as SB's greater bash.

this is all for balance issues.
the the 2 seconds of sliding GB givs, you get another GB and so the cycle continues.
this aims to stop that and also reinforce that the flat edge casting on continuous motion, while an alternative to taking 200 damage yourself, is still potentially a negative.

oh and now rated 4 stars because of people and their broken noob sticks proding my ultimate claiming its imba.

the only hero it stacks amazingly with is void.
and chances are void is going to rape you anyway.
so pretty please get over it.
oh and even when compared to void you only have 57% while he has 55% (without you) and... AND he gets to evade spells.
hell isn't your ultimate meant to be better than his passive.. aura i guess makes it a bit more useful.

*calls for a remake on void*

Ghost, did you even read my post?
People just think that the evasion is gay but they really have not considered that it is one of the first Evasive Ultis.

i read your post, its the posts by people like Zabasaz that shit me.

which reminds me, i still haven't reported him.

Zabasaz you are about to be owned.

You are right. Zabasaz is wrong.
He forgot that you CAN cast your Flat Edge by itself, without having to attack 10 times. I have just posted my first custom hero idea so i hope you will help me gauge it. Nice Work Ghost!

After reading his comments, I figured he really is a jerk. He doesnt know how much experienced you are at Dota than him. Lol!

I think the best hero idea here...

ultimates evasion can be stacked with butterfly evasion?
IMBA

butterfly stacks with backtrack.
backtrack is not an ultimate.

butterfly stacks with drunken haze.
drunken haze is not an ultimate.

butterfly stacks with incapacitating bite.
incapacitating bit is not an ultimate.


Thats the last time i write this list.


@pokefire
i have the 2k post count in forums,
i wrote the guide to dota.
he doesn't know what he is on about.

oh and i made this hero in an edit protection removed map of .52b and in about 60% of situations i have put him in, he lost.

pokefire - no, I said that it is FREE if he gets ten hits in, so he is hardly a caster. Step out of the fanboyism and maybe you'll better get it.

To the hero maker - your hero's ulti isn't its only problem so stop blaming it. The ulti is the LEAST of the problems, even if it is an extremely boring ulti and does nothing new.

Also, reporting someone for hero criticism is wasting the mods time, please refrain.

Kind of eh, nothing too special, just another auto attacker.

PS: How do you claim that you are a pro at Dota and better than me if you don't even know how evasion works? I mean come on. You barely even have a viable strategy written out and you think bashing at +200% attack speed is BAD. You clearly overexaggerate your skill.

Not that skill matters in making heroes. Seriously, nerf this hero, he's not going anywhere but in the trash can with stats and skills like this.

well i was at school today, talking to my good friend. who should be home any second now, turning on his computer.
loading this up.
and using his position on ds to own you.

so anyway.
2 castable spells.
yes you get one for free, if you hit someone 10 times (great this is going to help)
does this make tiny an auto attacking hero?

he does have 2 spells.
with the same manacost~ish and similar cooldowns.
but CLEARLY he is an auto attacker.

shall i move on?

you say i don't know how evasion works?

so am i under the delusion that chance to miss and evasion are completely different things?

i has no skill?
well then please don't refrain from going and looking at clan ZOMP replays with me in them.
or reading my guide to dota.
or seeing the "thanks to ghost" in various guides.

oh and ulti is new.
first in how it works through both time and with items.
second that it is an aura.
3rd it is the only evasion ultimate in the game.

pretty please get
a) your own hero published so i can flame it for being unoriginal..
no wait..
they only GET PUBLISHED if they are original..
or so one would hope/expect.

clearly it is better than yours and you are just bitter you weren't published

yeah i would put a b in but i don't need to.

oh and why are you under the delusion that it is a 200% passive gain all the time.
and why do you think that using bashers is a good idea, they let you take down one hero.....

as a general rule of thumb.
if you are bashing someone to death.
team lols at how slowly you are doing it.
and takes you down with a series of nukes or superior DPS.


anyway i am giving up on you, and i have not refrained from going to mods.
and i am hoping that through your own volition or as the case may well be, someone else's you don't post crap here again.

Zabasaz: Making constructive criticisms is one thing, but acting like a smartass is another. Yes, this is your warning. Tone it down.

That was so my punchline. Yea what they said.

PreTTy c00l idea, man!... your hero has evasion, right?, then why do you know butterfly stacks or do you mean evasion AURA is in short range? But at least this good, keep GOOOOingg...,pal

interesting idea, but the ulti is kinda funky, but very creative.

http://www.dotastrategy.com/hero-idea-7953-MrrrrgurrrulMurlocPuddleJumper.html

There's my hero, since you're so interested.

And quite frankly I am completely and utterly disgusted with the staff for taking only his side on this. He is just as guilty as I am, look at him outright flaming me, my skills at dota, and 'heroes.'

If I get some kind of punishment for speaking up and saying this it only affirms what I'm saying. There is some absolutely ridiculous favoritism going on here.

If you can't handle criticism on a site where THE POINT is to have your heroes criticized by viewers, then don't publish any because you're gonna get much more.

And don't be a jerk and bother the staff every time someone talks bad about your ideas.

PS is the Flat Edge move pure, melee, or spell damage?

Zabasaz, Zabasaz, Zabasaz...

you already got one warning from drew himself...

play with fire and you'll get burned...

in other words, you flamed first so close your trap unless you want to get banned. you started it so dont complain about some people being biased. i mean look, you said some pretty nasty stuff so you were bound to get what came to you.

continue your rants and i'll oversee that you get banned. that goes to both of you (Zabasaz AND Ghost).

This guy is very cool, really original skills and I really dig the item synergy you included in his ult
10/10

ooh snap.

puddle jumper wasn't that crash hot.
anyway there are far better heroes on dota-allstars.com

and i get good feedback there?
so why does that make me shit here?

(dohyun this isn't a rant, it's reasoning)


as for flat edge, as you are being whacked with a sword...
i would imagine that it is physical (melee) damage.
as is lunge.

Wut's so imba about the ulti? Most standard evasion skills go up to 30%, yet this ulti doesn't even reach that mark. Upgraded, it's still shy of that 30%. And also, the only way something like this becomes an ulti is to make it an aura, almost like a couple of Radiance w/out the burn aura and uber damage.

wow i really liked this hero idea, and your ult idea combing with rad, its, well rad. =D . It seems very original, only problem id see with it being imba is the agi and str gain. its a bit high, or at least i think so, and i understood your ult quite well but its a bit confusing at first, you might wanna separate the percentages a bit nicer. over all i loved it. 10/10

i tried to separate the percentages but so far everything has failed.
might work, i'll try that with next update.

i will also reword the ulti to make it more pro friendly when seeing it stack with butterfly, it will be renamed a chance to miss aura.

and i will also specify a size for the aura (which btw is 600)

lolz my chat plate is purple so I can mouth off and show disrespect to you all I want and there's no repercussions for my actions

you realise that is going to get you banned.

lol guess who just got banned?

good, enjoy reading it i vote it 10/10
pls lower agi and str gain
i would like this hero to see in action!!

good, enjoy reading it i vote it 10/10
pls lower agi and str gain
i would like this hero to see in action!!

what if he lack mana and he do the continuous motion, would he damage himself?, sorry for 2x post

hmm good question. but the cast is a result of another action (aka fast attacks) and would therefore result in a manaless cast.
mana is used on the skill itself as it has some rather nasty physical and mental effort involved.

i think i will end up lowering the str gain a bit to make him less tank.
base will go down by 1 and gain per level down by .2
agi might go down slightly.

Ok, so you pointed out void and butterfly's messed up love affair, but that does not justify giving Mieczyslaw a possible grand total of 86% dodge on top of which grants an aura of 28% to all allied units in a 600 aoe range. The ultimate basically says "ZOMG lets all become freaking phantom assassins and a void and go destroy target lane ROFLMAO."

Now after my rant, I will pose an alternative because I hate it when people badmouth my moves without presenting some way to change it.

In regards to the ultimate, you could have it grant a permanent evasion bonus to Mieczyslaw. I am fine with him having evasion, it is the aura part that bothers me. Anyways, in regards to the aura, you could change it so that it can be activated to grant an aura for a certain amount of time, whether it be determined by a flat amount of seconds or drains mana or what ever. Oh, sorry if I sounded a bit harsh in my last post, I just don't like void being poked at for his imba skillz.

you've been in such a hot argument here ghost.

"i has no skill?
well then please don't refrain from going and looking at clan ZOMP replays with me in them.
or reading my guide to dota.
or seeing the "thanks to ghost" in various guides."

oh yeah and whose guides are those?!

86% how did you get that figure.
and no it is not allies in 600 aoe get to evade.
its enemies in a 600 aoe get to miss.
difference..
hell it is possibly going to be a 500 aoe.
anyway... any hero with a range greater than 600 (or 500 who knows) is completely unaffected.

as for making it an aura, its the only way to make it an ultimate.
also note that it only works 50% of the time.
and at night if you do have radiance it is only 14% max.

nice to have some feedback with real justifications.

@ quale, your guide you little pro..
and coco's and drifterZ ( i think ) and CF[x]'s...
and my own ^_^ not that it is published, but it will be there.

you forgot my uide Ghost

though i havent really worked on it...but it will be finished!

im glad to see a hero like this i was realy disapointed with the boringness of the two new heros clock who looks like an absolute tool when he walks and attack and invoker who is just plain boring love to see this hero made be fun to use

siffles invoker is boring.

good idea..

wow hese awesome!! when is this guy going to be released?!?!

also so if u dont have enuf mana to use flat edge u still cop 200 dmg aye??

hmmm... i just had a thought.

Will these ideas really be put into consideration in Icefrog's eyes? cause i dont know whether he would really just pluck any hero from here and squash it into his latest version of Dota. Just a thought though.

Lol pokefire I've often wondered if Icefrog has taken a peek at this site or even knows about it. I want to see our ideas published!

since the start of this site to current day, no heroes ideas from here have made it into dota.

not to say that many have made it from the DotA-Allstars forums either.

who knows, icefrog might add mieczyslaw to 6.55. if he do, i'll snatch an awesome strategy guide of this hero from ghost. pfft. in my dreams.

lol feel free to make a strategy guide for him IF he ever does get published.

oh yeah? you'll regret that. you don't have trust to your creation. well, maybe that lunge thing is odd and would look bizzare...

well yeah but what else could he do, aiming for a stylish way to do it.

MoM's too great for this guy. can you get a clarification if the 1st skill stacks with frenzy(MoM)? you can get 200% in like 6 sec. MoM and basher(pathetic) makes this guy a great solo hero. his ulti makes this guy a great team hero.
Another thing's lothar's edge. lothar's + lunge into your team. Clarify also if it goes through ledges, Lunge i mean.

you mom and basher, they turn around and Laguna you.
just because you are being knocked back, does NOT mean that you are being stunned meaning you have no real defensive spell.

lunge traverses all terrain, so yes climbs cliffs.

i could imagine the enemy team roshaning when you appear and lunge them to the scourge secret shop, flat edge them away, and your team kills roshan and gets the aegis while you escape

also, can you flat edge people off a cliff? just wondering lol. flat edgeing people off a cliff into a pack of heroes would be fun lol.

i can imagine this guy playing ping pong with SB via Flat Edge and Greater Bash on some poor hero lol.

ahhh the possibilities!

this is really good, best i've seen here, and a native accent too ;d

shame flat edge doesn't disable them in the same imba way as SB (with abuse of greater bash proc) but yeah there could be a small amount of juggling.

what else... flat edge will kill trees as well, this is just in the nature of the knockback
this guy can kill trees faster than everyones favourite lumberjack rexxar.

Confused bout ulti. Explain more clearly. Nice hero though

1st skill like beastmaster's
2nd skill like the ulti of baratrum
3d skill double edge + chaos bolt w/o the stun and recoil
4th skill prety weak!!!
unoriginal and wik hero

I didn't think that other guy would last very long...
Sorry. Continue.

the evasion aura is too cool

Like beastmasters, yes it is like beastmasters, but take a look at the bard challenge description it was made to fit?
it basically says "use this for a skill"

Like greaterbash, but not.
just because it knocks back, does not make it a stun, hell you could call it "reverse reverse polarity without the stun" for all i care

how is it double edge?
i had it pinned down as a reverse impertus + leap skill but ok.
if you smoke pot its up to you.

ultimate was what?
umm 28% evasion that stacks with butterfly
jee thats what 58% in total, weak i know hell all enemies miss in a 500 AoE even weaker, allies get an EHP buff of 28%
weakest ultimate in DotA i know yeah?

please i urge you to think, maybe just a little bit before posting some stupid lame post without any positive suggestion as to how i could fix the supposed flaws, resulting in you looking like a complete tool and having everyone ignore you.

everyone?
ok, not me, but i got to post this and (just to remind everyone) make you look like a complete tool.

cool..!

hold on. minor question here but why does the lunge's dmg rely on how far the distance Lunge carries the enemy if you say the lunge carries the enemy over all types of obstacles if u say it knocks down trees? I know that if the skill works on : target spot, hero flies there and catches all in his way, and the dmg is dependent on (distance between the hero's original spot and ending up spot) but i think you should either reduce the dmg a tiny bit or just say it doesnt knock down trees but cont...

stops there at the trees. So the skill would be a more reader/commenter friendly skill. Just a suggestion.

And, those people who say he is not original stinks.
Havent you people realised the variety of heroes' skills is limited?
Sven's bolt = Skele King's bolt.
Lion's impale = Nerubian impale.
evasion of alot of heroes = evasion of other heroes.

Cont from last comment...

critical of alot of heroes = critical of alot of other heroes.
anti mage's blink = Queen of Pain's blink.

Bash = bash...

razor's frenzy = viper's frenzy
blah blah blah and so on...

Now you know Ghost's point, dont harass him, if you have.
Thank you for your co-operation.

i dun lik the u need this item and it will work. best thing to do is just make the effect not as good or just not let it be used at night. although that would be gay. nice skills only bad thing is that the story is WAY too long and needs a quick cut. XD.

lunge is relative to distance traveled by the target bit by the spell.

if you take it a blank range you will go the full 700 and will take 0.5 damage for each 2 units you move. meaning 350 damage, if you get hit in the last 100 of flight you will only take 50.

knocking down trees is to balance its range with the fact that you then can't lunge over trees to escape and instead you need to lunge cliffs instead.

evasion aura is too imba
void with butterfly around this guy means a total 88% evade..

void with panda is 98% evasion.
cry elsewhere.

such a cool hero^_^

nice

his name...is like a retard's name LOL

anywayz...evasion aura kinda imba

good

Nice!

not balanced.

Nc...
but...
i dont...
understand...
the ulti....
can...
u...
pls...
explain it...
accurately...

i would like to help Ghost in helping people understand what his ultimate is, and how balanced it is.
First,it only works at the DAY without radiance.
Second, it has a max of 58% evasion with radiance and butterfly. Faceless void with radiance and butterfly gets 63% evasion, Jahrakal with Blind and butterfly gets like 70& evasion. Pandaren is the same.
Third, it doesnt hurt even if it is an area of effect, radiance is area of effect too

So basically his ulti is more insentive for someone to pick NS (as if it were needed)I hope this elf guy has a good day job cuz radience is quite a pretty penny

I like it.. Sounds fun to play.

ehhhhh....

lucky for you other ghost i cannot be fucked flaming this hero for something which there probly is like the knock back would fuck things up major if used at same time as lunge... BECAUSE if you had 9 counters or 180% then using the lunge and hitting them would screw the system if you get what i mean.....
ehhh carry on with the good stuff AND ICEFROG GET YOUR ASS ON THIS SITE GOD DAMN IT!!

SWEET LOOOOOOVE THE LUNGE AND FLAT EdGE!

crazy hero! owning! hehe

Hmm, nice idea. But pretty imba. With ulti lvl 3 and butterfly... Not cool. And continouos motion is too good too. +200% AS? Thats crazy.

For now,after the witnessing of the new 6.55, alot of strategies and hero ideas are affected after Ice Frog's "reckless" decision for the changing of so much things in the new version. Also, i now feel that this hero is a much better choice as compared to the new heroes(CoCo and Windrunner). Hope everyone will not forget this hero as it slowly drifts into the background of the Hero Ideas.

Heck, Ghost, i think that it's so sad to see that people choose to read only the new hero ideas instead of browsing the old and good ones. This page is now so empty we can practically chat in here.

@pokefire

yeah, but that happens with every hero/item idea that isnt on the front page lol.

oh well, that's a part of life ull just have to get used to

that's nice of that hero if he hit just i see that 7combo then say goodlike

Very nice hero dont think he is to imba at all, had a read over the other hero ideas and think this one is one of the best 10/10

Awesome bro i really like tha hero