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Gah-Moorah - Earth Watcher

Created by cowlickman on 2007-11-07
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Tortoises are some of the oldest creatures of this world, having existed far before the night elves came to be. Gah-moorah is no exception. Having lived for thousands of years, she has developed an attunement to the earth and its ways. Many consider Gah-moorah as the spirit of the earth itself, being able to communicate with rocks and trees as means of attaining her goals. Being a very solitary creature, she does not have very many acquaintances but since the Scourge has been destroying the forests and blasting the lands, she has decided to side with the Sentinel, who have similar views of protecting nature.

Extract (R)
The Earth Watcher has learned to extract the life essence from any living organism, either eating a tree or chewing on a creature over a certain amount of time, eventually killing it and regenerating health at the same time. Gah-Moorah can also take out a chunk of a hero, dealing damage and slowly regenerating the health taken into her own.
Level 1 - Tree: regenerate 175 hp over 20 sec. Creep: steal 3% of the target’s max hp per second until dead. Hero: deals 175 damage, gaining half that amount in health over 20 sec
Level 2 - Tree:regenerate 195 hp over 18 sec. Creep: steal 4% of the target's max hp per second until dead. Hero: deals 195 damage, gaining half that amount in health over 18 sec
Level 3 - Tree: regenerate 215 hp over 16 sec. Creep: steal 5% of the target's max hp per second until dead Hero: deals 215 damage, gaining half that amount in health over 16 sec
Level 4 - Tree: regenerate 235 hp over 14 sec Creep: steal 6% of the target's max hp per second until dead. Hero: deals 235 damage, gaining half that amount in health over 14 sec
Can only chew on 1 creep/hero/tree at a time during which she cannot eat anything else. Does not stack with other HoT items. The creep inside gah-moorah can be let go at any time by pressing (Q)
Mana Cost: 90/100/110/120
Cooldown: 30/25/20/15

Framework: Works like Tango of Essification with trees. Works like the kodo beast’s Devour on a creep. If Gah-Moorah is killed while a creep is inside, it gets released with the amount of hp left. Similar to Lucifer’s Devour with the creep level cap.

Notes: To those who might think this is an imba skill, remember that all the healing is over time, and not in one shot. Also, it only heals half the damage done to heroes

Forest Pact (F)
Having a mutual agreement with the trees, exchanging protection of the forest for safe and easy passage, Gah-Moorah can walk through patches of trees instead of having to walk around them. This skill also increases her movement speed, whether she is close to trees or not.
Level 1 - lasts 5 seconds, 8% movement speed increase
Level 2 - lasts 7 seconds, 12% movement speed increase
Level 3 - lasts 9 seconds, 16% movement speed increase
Level 4 - lasts 11 seconds, 20% movement speed increase
The movement speed increase does not stack with the Rollout speed increase
Because Gah-Moorah is "phased", she cannot use Rollout while this spell is active
Mana Cost: 50/60/70/80
Cooldown: 18/20/22/24

Framework: Gah-Moorah does not become invisible while she walks through trees. Instead, like Mortred or Barathrum, she becomes slightly more difficult to see as soon as the spell is cast. While she is in this "phased" state, she can walk through trees freely without reapplying the spell.

Rollout (T)
Gah-Moorah uses her knowledge of rocks to change the integrity of her body to match them. She gains movement speed and armor but cannot cast any spells or attack. When passing over an enemy, she deals extra damage and stuns the enemy. Drains mana while active.
Level 1 - movement speed increased by 20, armor increased by 4, deals x1 damage and stuns for 0.4 sec, drains 20 mana/sec until deactivated
Level 2 - movement speed increased by 35, armor increased by 8, deals x1.25 damage and stuns for 0.6 sec, drains 30 mana/sec until deactivated
Level 3 - movement speed increased by 50, armor increased by 12, deals x1.5 damage and stuns for 0.8 sec, drains 40 mana/sec until deactivated
Level 4 - movement speed increased by 65, armor increased by 16, deals x1.75 damage and stuns for 1 sec, drains 50 mana/sec until deactivated
The stun can only affect a target every 3 seconds. The damage, however, is dealt every time Gah-moorah rolls over a target.
Mana Cost: 50
Cooldown: 14/12/10/8

Framework: She turns into a boulder that rolls on the ground. If she runs out of mana, she will turn back into her original form

Notes: Drains mana fast (i increased the amount of mana lost even more to make it more balanced), so it shouldn't be used too often

Sixth Sense (E)
Gah-Moorah feels the vibrations in the earth caused by her moving enemies, letting her know exactly where they are around her. Invisible units in a small area around the earth watcher can also be felt. Gah-moorah must concentrate so much that she cannot afford to move but gains armor so as to not let exterior stimuli bother her
Level 1 - can sense enemy heroes in a 1600 area radius, can sense invisible enemy heroes in a 600 area radius. Armor increased by 12
Level 2 - can sense enemy heroes in a 2000 area radius, can sense invisible enemy heroes in a 700 area radius. Armor increased by 20
Level 3 - can sense enemy heroes in a 2400 area radius, can sense invisible enemy heroes in a 800 area radius. Armor increased by 26
can sense enemy heroes that are not in the line of sight but that are on the other side of trees or cliffs. As long as they are in the AOE around gah-moorah
Mana Cost: 100
Cooldown: 30

Framework: gives vision of enemy heroes on the map inside the radius. only shows a shadow of invisible units that are sensed. Shows all heroes on the minimap

Notes: This spell can be active for as long as you want

Discussion:

Skill Discussion:

Extract Extract lets you heal pretty much constantly and increases your survivability. It does deal a fair amount of damage as a nuke, but doesn't heal as much when used in this way. Use this spell as often as you can to recover hp without being scared of being hit while you heal up.

Forest Pact This skill is great to quickly move behind your enemy or to catch up to him more easily than others would be able to. The speed increase is a huge asset for chasing and escaping ganks. Great way to confuse your enemies, since you can go back and forth through trees without having to cast a spell twice.

Rollout This is what you will be using to deal the most damage to your enemies. Great movement speed increase so you can easily catch up to or run away from your opponents. The stun is great against spell casters and gives you more opportunity to attack enemies and slow them down. Good to use if you want to reduce the damage you take, since it increases your armor greatly. Although it deals good damage and increases your armor, it also costs a LOT of mana so use wisely!

Sixth Sense Good to use against invis heroes and heroes who are about to gank you and your team. It can let you know exactly where they are before they even get in position to attack, giving you the upper hand when an all out brawl is about to happen. With its low mana cost and cooldown, you can use it whenever you feel you may be in danger without worrying about wasting your ult.

Skill synergy:

Gah-Moorah's skills do not have very good synergy but all have very good uses to make you a better tank. Her skills increase her stats more than deal damage so it makes you a good support tank; a new breed of hero.

Extract

Use Extract whenever you can. It will help you a whole lot in the long run, when you are healing while taking damage. it's good to take a creep first, let it heal you over time and keep it while you attack a hero. The cooldown will be over by the time you start your attack and you can then use Extract again to hurt the enemy hero and heal some more hp. If you still have a creep inside of you, just let it go before you use this spell as a nuke.

Forest Pact Extract

If you find yourself in a sticky situation, just use Forest Pact to run into a patch of trees and Extract a tree to start healing up, waiting for a safe exit strategy.

Offensively, you can use Forest Pact to sneak up behind your enemy and Extract him, then quickly run back through the trees to safety so he can't chase you. This is a good use of the spell to harass them and heal yourself.

Rollout Extract

Use Rollout to move to your target's location and stun them, then attack a few times and Extract them to heal yourself and hurt them even more. Then use Rollout again to run after them, stun them again and deal a lot more damage, all while you regain your hp!

Forest Pact Rollout

Gah-Moorah can change the density of her body to attain her goals. She either increases her density for Rollout, or decreases her density for Forest Pact. These skills cannot be used at the same time for that very reason. That being said, they can still be used sequentially. Use Forest Pact to get into position and then use Rollout to deal some damage or vis versa.

Sixth Sense Forest Pact Rollout Extract

Your ultimate is able to let you know who is close to you without having to be right beside them. You can hide behind trees and activate Sixth Sense to spot your enemies, then use Forest Pact to get there quickly and Extract them. Once Forest Pact wears off, Rollout over them to deal more damage.

After you use your ult, you can use any other of the synergies I mentionned above. Although there aren't many you can use, you can still scare the enemy off quickly or shatter their ranks when they are trying to gank you.

Pros:

has very good armor and movement speed
very good hp regeneration
good at escaping and creating ganks
can be used to spot hiding heroes

Cons:

depends on items to deal damage
does not have much mana
mana drains fast with skills
doesn't do much damage with skills

Skill build:

extract
rollout
walk
extract
rollout
sixth sense
extract
rollout
walk
extract
sixth sense
rollout
walk
walk
stats
sixth sense
stats - 25

Extract is a better skill to get at the beginning to be able to heal yourself early game without having to go back to the fountain. Rollout is good to make some damage although it's not very much. One rank of walk is good to have in case you need to get away and heal. Every skill is important, depending on how you play with her.

Item build:

Empty Bottle Bottle is good to keep your mana up so you can use Rollout more often. If you prefer getting a mana regen item, get Shiva`s Guard or Linken`s Sphere

Power Treads or Boots of Travel to increasse speed when in rollout

Heart of Tarrasque since you are a tank

Assault Cuirass Cuirass for good auras and better armor since you are a tank

Battle Fury Battlefury gives you more mana regen and great damage, will do wonders when coupled with Rollout (Rollout damage would not splash)

Radiance is great for a support tank and will stack with your Rollout

Notice how most of the items you get help you with Rollout, since this is your main damage dealer. Make sure to have lots of damage items and good mana regen

Best allies:

Kardel Sharpeye - The Dwarven Sniper Jah’rakal - The Troll Warlord Aiushtha - The Enchantress Lina Inverse - The Slayer Rylai Crestfall - The Crystal Maiden Traxex - The Drow Ranger Bone Clinkz - The Bone Fletcher Zeus - Lord of Olympia

nukers that can take care of the damage dealing so you can concentrate on taking the damage

Rikimaru - The Stealth Assassin Mirana Nightshade - Priestess of the Moon Puck - Faerie Dragon Gondar - The Bounty Hunter Dark Terror - The Faceless Void Akasha - The Queen of Pain Anub`arak - The Nerubian Assassin

heroes that can become invisible or jump over obstacles to be able to keep up with you

Heroes to watch out for:

Nortrom - The Silencer Traxex - The Drow Ranger Puck - Faerie Dragon Magina - The Anti-Mage Anub`arak - The Nerubian Assassin

Any silencers or mana drainers who stop you from using your evading skills

Purist Thunderwrath - The Omniknight Pudge - The Butcher Anub`seran - The Nerubian Weaver Slithice - The Naga Siren Rylai Crestfall - The Crystal Maiden Kel`Thuzad - The Lich

Any heroes that are very fast or that make you slow, that will be able to catch up to you when you're escaping or that are hard to catch up with.

Changelog:

2008-07-29: Hi everyone, this has been long overdue and I hope the changes make her a bit more balanced! It's too bad none of our ideas could really be added to Dota :(

Extract:
-lowered cooldown

Forest Pact:
-changed name
-added movement speed increasse
-increased mana cost
-increased cooldown because of speed increase
-increased duration at all levels
-Note: Rollout cannot be used while Forest Pact is active

Rollout:
-increased mana cost per second
-increased armor rating

Sixth Sense:
-increased cooldown

Other:
-gave a skill discussion
-gave skill synergies
-changed item build
2007-11-27: After a long time of trying to change my strategy to no avail, because something did not work with the whole process, I finally changed some things that needed to be changed. I increased the cooldown for the attack speed I lowered the cooldown for Forest Walk I increased the stun time of Rollout because 0.65 sec stun per 3 seconds isn't enough for what I had in mind. I also increased the amount of mana drained per second for Rollout Clarified the framework for Sixth Sense
2007-11-09: I finally changed the Forest Walk framework, like I added as a comment
2007-11-08: I finally was able to change the attack range (it wasn't working before) and I lowered her strength gain by a bit
2007-11-08: Hey everyone,

So here are the changes that I've made to Gah-moorah, thanks to your input and comments. I hope it's much better than it was. I have to agree that some of my skills were a bit imba but, it's only my first so i'm learning.

General: I changed the attack range to 100 melee range because she is in fact a strength hero. the only reason I gave her range is because some of the turtles in Frozen Throne can throw rocks

Extract: I kept all the specifics the same, I only increased the mana cost and cooldown. I also reminded all of you who thought it was imba, that the healing is done over time, and is not very much at that, and with a longer cooldown, she won't be able to do it all the time.

Forest Walk: I explained a bit more how the spell should work, I also increased the cooldown but not too much, because it's supposed to work like a blink/jump but only through trees. She does not stay invisible for very long at all and she cannot use it to go over cliffs

Rollout: This is the skill that had the most criticism. I took off the stun immunity, I agree, it was too imba. I also decreased the damage dealt by a bit, not much though. I reduced the speed increase by almost 50%. The spell also drains more mana while active so that it cannot be spammed too often. An initial mana cost has also been implemented. Enemies can only be affected by the STUN every 3 seconds but it's such a minor stun. I basically decided to add this in order to stop spell casters a bit more easily. However, the damage is dealt to the enemy everytime she rolls over them.

Oh, also want to add that stuns from items are not applied when she is using rollout. i.e: cranium basher only works when she's attacking, not while she's rolling

Sixth Sense: Alright, so I took some of your suggestions for this one and I came up with some more ideas which make a lot more sense. First of all, I made this spell an active one instead of a passive one with a mana cost of 100 (it is low, but it's because I added something else). I also had to add a cooldown because it's no longer passive, which is also low (20). The mana cost and cooldown are so low because I also made her unable to move while the spell is active. While she is doing this spell, she also increases her armor buy quite a bit as a mean to defend herself while totally defensless :P In this sense, she acts more as a super tough ward which will be super effective when ganking or defending.

By taking off the passiveness, she is more susceptible to ganks (which seemed to be a problem for some [and I totally agree that it was, but I kinda made her the anti-gank hero]). Also, I made it so the invisible heroes are not shown, but only a shadow is shown where they are walking (as well as a dot on the minimap).

Other stuff: I didn't change the item build pretty much because for some reason, the site won't let me edit that part :P But also, I've never really been that good at item builds.

Someone asked how she could communicate with rocks. Well, it is believed in some cultures that everything on the planet has a soul, not just plants and animals, but rocks and inanimate objects as well. This can be applied to Gah-moorah, who has lived her whole life in solitude, with only the rocks and the trees with which to communicate

Anyway, that's all I got so far. I commented already about this but, I'm surprised this (out of the three that I made) is the hero that got chosen first because it was the last one I made. I hope the changes make more sense to you guys. Thanks again for the feedback. Let me know what you think!

Comments

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1 By LETHAL 2007-11-07

A good tanking hero...

2 By nik 2007-11-07

Great hero in all aspects

3 By NovaProspekt 2007-11-07

i dont really like it cuz i made a hero idea about a month ago it didnt get approved but it had the forest walking skill ...but i like the other skills

4 By MrZombie 2007-11-07

Rollout is too good. Just get BoT's and you can perma stun a bunch of enemies by running back and forth. And it makes you immune to stuns too...

Needs some sort of balancing.

The ult is nice, but almost exactly like that other hero idea, the Voicless Soldiers ult.

5 By ppont 2007-11-07

I like your skill ideas but i think the item build is wrong. Double basher seems kinda stupid when you havnt got any IAS until you get the assoult cuirass. Maybe the new PT would be good on him?

6 By NovaProspekt 2007-11-07

lol just wondering. how does he communicate with rocks? cuz rocks are inanimate objects. holy snap crackle and pop this hero has a massive str gain AND its ranged hmmmm

7 By Raxxar 2007-11-07

Well, too many of her skills push the limits...
The first, forget about tangoes, flasks and whatever you would buy for lane staying, PLUS it affects heroes (either that or I misread) as a nuke/heal...
For me, that's too much, but it's kinda balanced anyway...
Then we have a combination of Rooftrellen's invis skill, together with being able to walk through trees like Spectre with her dagger... Also too much, pick one of those and leave the other one out...
And the rollout is like an overpowered Shukuchi, it adds a lot of move speed, you can't attack, and you deal a little damage by passing over things... It would be fine if it didn't have a stun...Combining all of this would make for a very scary hero...
Oh, and the ulti... TAKE IT OUT....... RIGHT NOW...
You must be a maphacker to like that...
Please take that out, think of something else, it was creative but it's too imba...
Ok, you want the reason? You will NEVER be ganked, and you will ALWAYS kill the guy you're ganking, if not you your friends... But most importantly, if you get a tank with outstanding lane staying power, an escape skill AND a maphack like skill, then it's... I'm sorry, but it's way too much...
Oh, and also, it's a 600 range STRENGTH hero... Huskar has 400 and he's already imba...
I'm sorry, but this just screams for a remake...

8 By cham1259 2007-11-07

Wow... I also made a hero with a skill that works the same with forest walk... Too bad you were first. :D
I like the hero idea, it's just that 600 range is too much for a strength type or a turtle
The others are okay. It could last long in a lane.

9 By ladyzman123 2007-11-07

imba hero

10 By kesgaea 2007-11-07

in my personal opinion... the first skill is fine... the second is fine too... sounds good? nah.... the 3rd skills is overpowered..... imagine someone IMMUNE to stun rolling around you non stop with insane MS and armor and perma stun you.... not only that... he can permastun an entire team if they sticked close... omg..... crazy..... the ulti is also overpowered.... imagine bloodseeker's thirst without any 40% hp requirements... what the hell???..... i totally agree with raxxar regarding this maphacking skill.... i think these 2 skills need a remake

11 By Ghost 2007-11-08

interesting ideas but there is no way to balance them.

i would imagine this hero is quite boring to play

12 By Shimrra_3 2007-11-08

This isn't as bad as you're saying. Only need a few changes. I quite like this actually, very creative. Easily balanced with the following changes:

Stats: Make her melee range, increase base attack speed cooldown (1.25 beats SA). Repeat, MAKE HER MELEE RANGE.
Extract: Hugely increase the mana cost (120-160 or so), and possibly the cooldown as well.
Forest Walk: up the cooldown a bit. I'll say for everyone whos not paying attention, Natures Guise can be cast on ALLIES, and has a 60 second duration with a 3 second cooldown, and its mana cost ramps DOWN not UP. This isn't nearly as good.
Rollout: Cool skill. Drains mana until deactivated, balanced. The one thing that needs to go is the stun immunity - take that RIGHT out. Everyone who's said its 'permastun'... wait thats only above post - you, its only 0.6 seconds. Wow?
Sixth Sense: I can't actually argue for this one that much. At best, lower the radius by heaps and maybe remove the Invisibility detection. At worst, remake the skill.

But seriously, you guys demanding a remake... its not THAT bad. I'm rating after fixes.

13 By mangoman 2007-11-08

shimmera makes a good argument agreed on all points, but for rollout, how many times can u be 'rolled' ova in a timeframe, caus u deal a 2x crit (from what i understand) with this skill every time u roll ova? thus if u go bak and forth, its like ur goin crit+stun, crit+stun etc etc, seems maybe 2 much, 1.5 dmg crit wud be better. O and one more thing, make it cost some initial mana to cast as well, say 50?
the ult, perhaps to balance shud be a castable skill? Say with a cooldown off 60 seconds and last 30 seconds? this would help address some of its balance issues, caus think about it, sa etc lose all their power from this.

14 By SlwaBluPhnx 2007-11-08

Yes rollout is pretty imba, permabash for the whole enemy team and they con't do nothin, might need to rebalance it then you're OK, I won't give rating yet.

15 By Ghost 2007-11-08

i think i am the only person who thinks the first skill isn't imba..
leave it as it is.
and everyone else compare to omni knight.

forest walk is very balanced. well as balanced as it can be. only potential problems include that of using it to sneak into their base but thats not horribly bad.

roll out.. kill the stun immunity..
give less speed and make it so that an enemy can only be hit once every 2 seconds.

Sixth Sense: as it senses vibrations make it like a radar thing. every 6 seconds it reveals MOVING enemies in the radius for between 1 and 5 seconds based on their distance from you. with invisible units instead of revealing it could show where they are, naybe footprints.. or terrorblades fire footprints.. but in blue ^^

wow i remade the skill i thought would/could never be remade.

16 By cowlickman 2007-11-08

Well I have to say, first of all, that I am surprised that, of the hero ideas I came up with, this one made it through first. I've never been criticised on a hero idea yet and I really apreciate all of you giving your opinions! I will for sure look it over and make some changes that were more frequently mentionned.

Thanks a lot for your input, I will try to also explain spells better.

17 By Shimrra_3 2007-11-08

Hmmm me and Ghost discussed this after my comment. Its actually a load more imba than I thought. But indeed still fixable. I meant to add a suggestion along the lines of that 'only stun every 2 seconds' or similar. And that idea for the Ultimate is good as well. Either a passive pinging function, or make it activate for small mana cost with a small cooldown and duration - controlled ping function. OR just nerf it how I suggested previously.

18 By lompe 2007-11-09

Damn. I was going to make a turtle hero. Where did you get the icons though? Can't seem to find any... The referred site is down it seems. Maybe I'll post my turtle-hero and we'll see who gets the best ranking.

19 By cowlickman 2007-11-09

Hey guys, for some reason, sometimes I can't edit my hero idea at all so, I'm just going to post it here until I get the chance to do it.

I thought about it for a while and decided to change how Forest Walk works. Not the skill itself, but more the framework:

Gah-Moorah does not become invisible while she walks through trees. Instead, like Mortred or Barathrum, she becomes slightly more difficult to see as soon as the countdown starts and this lasts until the duration of the spell ends. While she is in this "phased" state, she can walk through trees without reapplying the spell.

Remember that the spell's duration starts when she reaches trees, which is when it is activated

20 By duro†ar™ 2007-11-10

her ult made her an iron plated tank.
but she can't move right???
when usaid that she can see enemy heroes,does her allies can see them too??does that made her like a ward???

also,how long is the spell duration?

21 By Ling_woi 2007-11-10

like the eatin skill(think kinda better than dismember cuz it also cure it self)

22 By mangoman 2007-11-10

hmm, the rework is good, but how long is the duration of the ult? And, imho, i dont think u shud be required to be immobile, think of thundergod's wrath and global silence, they all gain vision of every enemy across the map with added bonuses, urs was only imba caus it was passive, i reckon the ability to move would be fine, make it last 5/10/15 seconds and have a cooldown of 60 seconds etc? Otherwise nice changes for everything seems fair. Also, maybe add, that if the targets are within say 600 range, u hav vision of them (so it is a trusight for inv heroes so to speak). Imo that would'nt be imba, because it isn't passive, ie if u dont check you wont know they r there, also, it isn't imba on say a techie's caus its not like u gain vision of his mines or others wards etc. Anyway nice work 10/10 from me.

23 By kesgaea 2007-11-10

hmm.... nice remake on the ulti... but i reckon giving more cooldown and less armor... but otherwise now that i rethink it probably....... isn't that bad i guess.... sorry if i excessively commented to harshly....hmm... the 3rd skill is more balanced now for sure.... but i reckon... changing it to like what ghost said... but slightly different... how about increasing the stun time... but changing the stun delay to 3 seconds each stun... that means... you stun probably 1.1 second each time you roll over the enemy but you can only stun them every 3-4 seconds... just like sukichi..... that would be better? no?

24 By Shimrra_3 2007-11-10

@ mangoman = having her channel it makes perfect sense with the background info etc.
@ creator = much better, as mangoman said you do need a duration on Sixth Sense now. Otherwise its fine. I say 10/10, good job good hero.

25 By evoblade 2007-11-10

it's nice

26 By cowlickman 2007-11-10

Well I made her immobile because I thought the sixth sense could be activated for as long as you want, she has the role of finding out where everyone is, and then her allies can do the work. Good for chasing a hero that just disappeared too. I gave her such a big armor gain because she really has no other way of defending herself against creeps, or a hero that stayed behind.

And yea, I think she should be immobile because it works with the story of the character. So maybe increase the radius if it seems too limiting?

27 By Shimrra_3 2007-11-10

Seems fine to me, I wouldn't worry.

28 By <killer_bakekang> 2007-11-11

uhhmmm a little bit IMBA i say with that ss thingy too much range yeah

29 By Firesky 2007-11-11

isnt there a pokemon thats like an earth turtle or something turtwig or Tortera or something and i think the forest thing is a lil imba i can cast the spell then farm for 10 min. and o i need to run now so i go inot the trees and then the spell starts and it has a tango skill that can also devour i think this needs to be revamped to just trees and not stack with tangos to keep it fair so theres not an imba regen at level 1 and 3.

30 By cowlickman 2007-11-11

The Forest Walk is just the same as any blink except costs more mana and can't go over cliffs. Also, it doesn't teleport you, you still have to walk, and you don't walk any faster like anyone who has Windwalk.

Extract does not stack with other HoT items like Tango or Sapphire Water, it has a pretty hefty mana cost too, so you would only use it on trees or creeps if you really need to heal yourself. You might as well use it as a nuke more than anything.

31 By Flodian 2007-11-11

dude your ulti is way way way way way too strong

32 By mv20vm 2007-11-11

Ulti has a bit similarity to global silence of Nortrom and global invi of mirana. It's like a global invi but really not global. Anti gank skill also gank initiator skill. Free observer ward when she reach level 6

33 By MrZombie 2007-11-11

You said you can let the creep inside you out by pressing (E) but your ulti has the same exact hotkey.

That means you would trigger both.

Speaking of your ulti, how long does it last? And if it lasts any longer than 6 or 8 seconds increase the cooldown, because 22 armor, truesight, and huge AoE antigank vision is a bit much.

34 By MrZombie 2007-11-11

And holy crap i just looked at his attack speed. Most agility heroes don;t have that kind of attack speed adn this guy is a tank. Increase the attack rate to something like 1.4, that would still make him the fastest attacking strength hero.

35 By duro†ar™ 2007-11-11

so u can activate the ult as long as u can r8?
but the mana cost seems too low 4 me

i dunno maybe it's juz me

36 By cowlickman 2007-11-12

@mv20vm : It's more like Bloodseeker's thirst than anything else, except she can't chase the hero. But yes, it's supposed to be like a ward

@MrZombie : My ult was passive before, I will change the hotkey. Also, the true sight is only in a smaller area around the earth watcher, not the big area. And remember that she can't chase anyone with it active because she can't move.

I made it so the spell lasts until you dactivate it because she can't move anyway. Also, you only see SHADOWS of invisible heroes (not everything invisible, just heroes)

The regular sight of a hero (during the day) is something like 1200, right? (i'm guessing) So it's really just double that, it's not that big of a radius if you think about it. If anything, I thought it was too small

I tried changing the attack speed but it didn't work so I will try again!

@durotar : Again, she can't do anything else while it's active, that's why the mana cost and cooldown are so low. If you put it on then decide to chase, by the time you get to where they are, they will most likely be gone. It's more of a skill to know when you're getting ganked and which escape route would be the safest. Or to help your allies chase a hero that has been weakened in battle. That skill is more of a support skill if you want to use it offensively

37 By KING-MANKIND 2007-11-12

at first I didn't like the hero, especially cz I'm not found of the 1st spell cz I hate it on doom and I hate doom altogher, but the changes made the hero better, and more of a danger right now, even thought she's not a killer hero. I like it better now ;-) but the spells took me a little time to understand and connect altogether.

38 By Undercover13 2007-11-12

Move Speed: 285 + 85 (BoT)+ 65 (Rollout) = 435 That's too much isn't it??Aren't turtles supposed to be slow?
Anyway, overall a very interesting hero, with a large chance to surive ganks, can return to the fountain quickly... but i have a question:
Can she rollout while forest walking? or will rollout just destroy any tree that comes in its way? and what happens if is forest walking in her original form and she runs out of time?? Will she be stuck in there??
Answer plz...
Very interesting hero to use: 9/10

39 By cowlickman 2007-11-12

@KING-MANKIND : Well if there's anything you don't understand, please let me know and I will try to explain it as best I can! Sorry for any confusion

@Undercover13 : Yes, turtles are generally slow, but not when they're a boulder, rolling around :P It also drains mana really fast and she has little of that to begin with...

I have also been thinking about the Forest Walk/Rollout synergy and if they should be able to be active at the same time. First of all, no, she will not destroy trees in her wake. Secondly, I think that, because she becomes blurred, she should not be able to change into rock because her "integrity" is compromised.

Just like any blink, jump or teleport ability, if you get stuck in trees, you have to stay there until the spell is up again. This could be used to hide too, if you're in a really sticky situation, just run into the forest and
get out of harm's way. Even eat a tree if you want!

40 By JBlanco 2007-11-12

his ult seems kinda pointless if you cant even move... I think it would be fine if he could move and attack but the ability only lasted for a very limited time.

41 By NovaProspekt 2007-11-12

hey insted of her transforming into a boulder maybe she should just go into her shell (cuz shes a turtle right?) yeah and in her shell that is spiked and rolls around kinda like bowser

42 By Bard Man 2007-11-13

Sorry for the lateness. Bard Man has been working on his own projects.
Anyway, time to rate.

Extract: Nuke meets healing spell. Good enough.

Forest Walk: Not that great of a skill. Just a no damage version of Shadow Dagger that only works with trees. Also, you don't have to put the mana cost and cooldown in the spell description.

Rollout: Pokemon much? Heh. Good skill, but if you give this fat turtle a Guinshoo, she can just roll around all game.

Sixth Sense: Hmm... Great Anti-gan tool, and a great way to make Rikimaru and Gondar piss off. Not to mention Brood Mother. Bard Man approves of this inventive skill.

Oh, and by the way. One religion that believes all things have spirits: Paganism. Bard Man only knows this because his girlfriend is a pagan. Ok. Bye Bye.

43 By NovaProspekt 2007-11-13

i myself dont believe everything has a spirit. because if it doesnt live it has no spirit inanimate objects have no spirits

44 By Ghost 2007-11-13

i think take down the cooldown on forest walk to stop you from getting stuck also allowing you to use it more like a slow blink.

45 By Sai Warrior 2007-11-14

This hero is great its good for tanking and when attacked its forest walk does the work I give this guy a 9 .

46 By betik 2007-11-14

i'll give this hero a 7/10

47 By syvirus 2007-11-14

how do u make an idea??

48 By OceanPwntage 2007-11-15

This is awesome. you can make it like blade fury (spell resistance) which would be awesome. I recommend rollout used often. get dmg items. (mkb, radiance, etc) then get mana! euls(wow regen=awesome), etc. use tree walk then rollout. whack whack whack whack *eat* yum. yum. tree walk. run away. go to fountain. let him out.

WAIT WHAT? last 2 lines. mite wanna change dat. make it look like dismember but its not channeling. another suggestion. make him unable to move when using dismember-ish skill. the ult though, is actually kinda imba. make like 5 10 15 or sumthin... 10, 16, 22? lol check with others i think its kinda cheap
overall 9.5/10

49 By OceanPwntage 2007-11-15

@NovaProspekt
ur a dumbass. usual melee is like 125. thats like directly ontop of the guy ranged=melee. compare before u make a noob out of urself.

50 By trinitydota 2007-11-15

Wow, this hero is imba... High hp, especially the heal and the rollout. If you bought a bottle and tangos. You eat tangos, you bottle, you extract, imba heal( if tangos and heal can stack). Rollout 28 mana isnt that much if you bought a bottle, in late game, you can on it for at least 20 seconds.

51 By War_Wrecker 2007-11-15

i think you should make rollout work like this....when you are first rolled over it deals damage and stuns and leaves a buff, buff lasts a bit longer than the stun, while the buff is on and you get rolled over again, it deals bonus damage but DOESNT stun you.

52 By cowlickman 2007-11-15

@syvirus : Go to My Strategies on the Quickmenu on the left side and then click on "Build new hero idea" at the top right and go from there

@OceanPwntage: The ult has a cooldown so that you can't turn it on, spot your enemy, chase and then do it again right away if you lose him. And, because she can go faster and chase more easily, having her incapacitated while using the ult makes it more balanced because she can't FOR SURE catch the hero she's chasing. She needs to rely on her team (which is what the game is all about) to get someone. Imagine SS has a 10 sec duration at first level. You turn that on, forest walk and then rollout to them, all the time, being able to see them. When you get there, they can't kill you or run away because of your high hp and your stun, that's a lot more imba than not being able to move while you have SS active.

Also, NovaProspekt didn't say anything wrong. If YOU do your research, you'll notice that at first, I made her a ranged hero and so he commented on it. Then in my changelog, I stated that I changed her to a melee hero. Look at the dates of comments and changelog before you make a noob out of yourself.

@trinitydota: Well, I have been thinking of the Rollout for a while and I jacked up the mana cost, I think it's fine because you're not constantly hurting your enemies like Leshrac's Pulse Nova that also drains mana, and it doesn't incapacitate like Bane's Fiend's Grip. You actually still have to move and she has very little mana to begin with. Yes, a guinsoo's would be extremely useful and would pretty much counter this but, that's the point of items, isn't it? Pudge gets HoT, etc. to counter his Rot.

@War_Wrecker : The reason why I even put a stun on Rollout is just for that, to have a stun more often and do less damage. I like it the way it is because the point of the skill is to stop spellcasters and slow down the runners, but not by much. I'm actually starting to think that 3 seconds is too long of a "cooldown" for a 0.6 sec stun. Maybe I should either lower the "cooldown" of the stun, or increase the stun time...?

53 By cowlickman 2007-11-15

@trinitydota : Oh, and healing over time items (like tango or bottle) do not stack with Extract so you can't have an imba hp regen. Either Extract OR an item

54 By NovaProspekt 2007-11-15

@oceanpwntage

@NovaProspekt
ur a dumbass. usual melee is like 125. thats like directly ontop of the guy ranged=melee. compare before u make a noob out of urself. "inconjunction with"
@cowlickman
Also, NovaProspekt didn't say anything wrong. If YOU do your research, you'll notice that at first, I made her a ranged hero and so he commented on it. Then in my changelog, I stated that I changed her to a melee hero. Look at the dates of comments and changelog before you make a noob out of yourself.

lol all i can do is laugh, damn look whos the noob now

55 By Bravo13 2007-11-15

i hope they put some new heros on the next version or take some of they ones everyone hates off they need to look at some of the hero ideas from this site on the game

56 By hhuang6n 2007-11-16

first skill is too cheap, she could take like 5v1 early game lol

57 By cham1259 2007-11-16

Wow! Good, the remake got better

58 By KrayZspYne 2007-11-19

good job i like it, i still dont know y people think this hero is imbalanced haha wow i mean in a real game its different then just saying wat he does, and the only thing i would recomend is rollout needs to hav a little less stun time other than that good one, and people that think it's ult is imbalanced haha his ult is just basiclly true site and extra vision woopie, hahaha

59 By AXCELACCEL 2007-11-21

nice idea

60 By DarkStormEagle 2007-11-21

Hey, nice hero idea! I like all the skills. I don't see why this hero is imba becuase she is good with allies.. I mean isnt' that what dota is about? If u pick this hero, hope that furion is in the game, whether on ur team or not. She is good vs. him and they are also a great team

61 By Ghost 2007-11-21

i finally voted but it wasn't enough to take up the stars to 5 again

62 By BenCh_ 2007-11-22

Sorry if I sound like a noob but, what if you are still in trees when the timer runs out? And are you targetable while you are in the trees? this is skill is actually a bit imba IMO coz if you can occasionally just run into patches of trees, if you are in top lane, then you're almost unkillable/ungankable. Anyway, I might be mistaken but I reckon you should change this skill as it really doesn't fit the turtle theme and instead more like the jungle stalker theme.

63 By evoblade 2007-11-22

i not speaking for idea.i speaking for build new hero idea. i cant reach the hero idea icon's web.PLS help!

64 By evoblade 2007-11-22

and i build hero ideas.how can you see them?

65 By Ghost 2007-11-27

google hive workshop

i like the new balance to this skill.

@BenCh_
it isn't a turtle theme
he is the earth watcher.
thus a tree affinity is quite acceptable

66 By evoblade 2007-11-27

ok friend

67 By squirtle829 2007-12-30

here's how this would go: blink(cause why not) extract the best dps hero and then forest walk and trap him in the trees. and then maybe leave him there until something happens, or kill him.
Best base defender ever because I'd just take them back to fountain and put them in the trees. kinda broken

68 By cowlickman 2007-12-31

she can't take a hero with Extract, she just uses it as a stun, she can't carry heroes around in her mouth whenever she wants She can only do that with CREEPS

69 By original-binsoy 2007-12-31

i like this hero! i can easily master this!! pls put this in dota!! i love it! but not as much as i wanna play
[b]NEON -the arch builder[/b]

see him in DREAM HEROES section of Dota forum!

you'll love him!

70 By tr3ncht0wn 2008-01-02

hahaha...... lame....
a tortoise woohoo!! i mean tortoises are so slow, so is this one...
the item build you gave this hero is like saying he's a killer, no way he is.. his ultimate immobilizes him, that's like saying feed on me, i don't care if he has high armor..

this hero is so gay for a strength hero, the gayest of all.
he has heal
he can walk through trees
he can roll over like a dog
his ulti buffs up his armor

but what do others gain from him? i mean what advantage does he contribute to the team, he sucks one on one for sure, but in a team, i think he will still suck..

71 By cowlickman 2008-01-02

First of all her main role is to be the tank. I first created her to be the anti-gank hero, so in that sense, she can prevent her and her lane partner from being ganked and can easily escape with Forest Walk.

The healing is there to improve her survival while tanking, and her increased armor with two of her spells insures this as well.

She can do quite a bit of damage with her rollout, imagine 1.75x crit every time you roll over them, that adds up, plus the armor bonus and movement speed to catch up to running enemies and stun them.

Her ult is extremely useful when your team is around. It gives vision of enemy heroes that are close by (either about to gank or running away) and can detect invisible heroes too. The point of that skill is for the rest of the team to use as a locator.

All these reasons make her a great tank and a great team player.

And my hero is not a homosexual, she's just kinda butch :P

72 By EndlessWrath 2008-01-02

hmm.... no rating yet...but do like the hero in general...

my biggest problem is that you designed a support hero. ANY hero in dota can carry if you play him right...because ALL of them have at least one spell that enables them to carry or deal alot of damage quickly...whether nuking, beefing aspd or just empowering things with invis or stuns.

this hero however...you have built to:
A) Run away.
B) heal itself and have a minor...keyword...minor nuke
C) Detects all enemies around and beefs up armor
D) roll into a ball chucking away mana...which you don't have a lot of to stun slightly and...again...run away.... or support a hero. since you dont deal enough dmg to actually hurt.

even witch doctor can carry... I would know...since I go 15/2 with him (average)

Like the background... the skills just upset me... I think you should make her intel based with good str gain...but thats just me...since she has to cast all of the 4 skills.

73 By cowlickman 2008-01-04

@EndlessWrath: I'm not totally sure why, but I value your opinion. When you said that a hero should be able to hold his own, I was thinking about how this one could do it and I think you're right, apart from Rollout and a weak Extract, there isn't much.

I have therefore decided to change a few things, but many others already like the idea so I'm going to ask first. I was going to change up Extract a bit to make it deal a lot more damage to heroes and give it a 20 sec cooldown and a couple other things to make it not useless.

I want to keep Forest Walk and Rollout the same, I already changed those two enough but I want to add a little something to Sixth Sense. Now this is just an idea but I was thinking of making all the heroes that are seen take a bit of damage while they're in the AoE. Not very much, just like 2-3% of their total health per second. Or give some other kind of offensive effect.

What do you guys think?

74 By EndlessWrath 2008-01-06

@cowlickman

I didn't say the hero was bad...I'm just showing you a simplified reflection of your work.
I like the idea of the hero. If your gonna change anything...change the numbers... or you idea of what you want this hero to be.

You said she communicates with rocks... yet only 2 of the abilities truly show that... Her rollout...and Sixth Sense. Now her minor nuke extracts life essence from people...which is more nature-ish. It's understandable. So is the Forestwalk.

You said you wanted a rock adept hero...if so..perhaps an earthslide or quake? (don't make it like Far seers but more of a giant War stomp?) or maybe something to that extent...

if you want him Nature element (combination of both.) you could try a lot of things. one of which combine abilities.
Forest walk cuts a shortcut through trees trying to get away...why can't rollout just knock the trees down?.. if thats not what you want... I would consider changing statistics of extract to heal more for eating a tree? and less than none at all for hitting hero... for example.
if you eat tree you heal for 300hp (just example number) but you deal no damage.
if you hit creep..half it...half number deals damage...so in this case...150 damage to creep and 150 hp to you....and to a hero... you switch it to full offense.... 300 to hero...none to you.

as for the ulti offensive change....why? its fine as it is... maybe a duration length perhaps...so instead of seeing everyone around you permanently...it only works for X seconds.

Again, your ideas were great, creative, and interesting. out of the 3 heroes that I saw (which 2 now disappeared... =(... this is one is close to Harpy chick. I really like this idea, it creates a lot of opportunities. I just think that all in all...he's a survivor...not a fighter...all dota heros can do both... just wanted you to see that....

so summary.
Good hero
change first ability a teeny bit...
Do not change ulti (in my opinion) to more offensive... in fact...lower duration, obviously channeling. (if it already is than ok) and higher mana cost per level. (not ridiculus though...just like add 50 to the cost.)

ty

75 By cowlickman 2008-01-06

@EndlessWrath

Ok, I appreciate your ideas and really like the one about rollout being able to go through trees and just take off forest walk. I do want her to be nature oriented because she's supposed to be "mother nature" so not just rocks, but trees too.

Having said that, I was thinking that I could nerf Forest Walk and make another type of nuke. I have something in mind, a cross between Alchemist's stun but I'll think about it for a while. I had the same idea for Extract, I'll change it up a bit.

As for my other hero ideas, they're mia right now because I edited them. You can still see them (and the changes) at the following urls:

Triton - Water Adept: http://www.dotastrategy.com/hero_idea.php?bid=5014

Orielle - Harpy Scout:
http://www.dotastrategy.com/hero_idea.php?bid=5012

76 By fr3sh 2008-01-07

Hmm I like the hero over all, still a few tweeks. to work out, but I was thinking what if when you use your ult you become visible to the enemies, that way you cant hide in some corner and act like a hero finding tool for ur allies.

77 By EndlessWrath 2008-01-07

@cowlickman

Your welcome for the ideas... glad you like them!

I'm gonna start on my own hero ideas (when get the time) but for now... I'll throw my ideas to others whenever you need them.

as for the changes to extract and the new "nuke"....remember, not all heroes require nukes...usually one good one should suffice.

not saying that the added nuke would be a bad thing... I just don't want you to be single minded.... be VERY OPEN MINDED when thinking of creative ideas for other ability.
anymore help or ideas... just ask

(waiting for revisions before rating)

78 By chimp_magi 2008-01-09

wow a turtle lol -_- I wonder if icefrog would ever in his right mind even consider adding this hero to dota...loool i could use a rock as a hero and own this..its basically a rock that can maphack,eat stuff and throw itself in trees as well as heroes for stun....lol

79 By EndlessWrath 2008-01-09

@chimp-magi

O.o
you're mildly depressing. I don't think Icefrog gives a damn what the appearance of a character is (as long as it isn't a duplicate image... i.e. you can't have 2 tinker model files...)

honestly.. I like this hero...he doesn't maphack. It's like having a larger vision area with a limited range. it also lets you see invis units... BUT YOU HAVE TO STAY IN ONE PLACE THE WHOLE TIME....
gah..caps ftl.

anyways, before downing another hero...who with a few tweaks might actually be a decent dota hero... maybe you should give some actual.. and constructive comments. not jumping on the bandwagon and giving a useless post.

I wish i could rate people... you'd get 1/10

80 By alec1987 2008-01-09

this guy is unreal sa's worst enemy. Question please are any of these hero actually coming on dota msg me

81 By pocoretarded 2008-01-10

His ulti is perfect for team roshaning.. that way no invi heroes can come in and steal the aegis or roshan kill..

82 By grande 2008-01-10

i like it 10/10

83 By Nelstar 2008-01-11

For Roll-out, it is imba.

Get a BoT, get a lothar, and then have heavy mana regen... it will be Godlike. Immolation with permabash and increase movement (WTF?).

Mana cost should be at least 100 to 150 and mana cost per second should be 25/50/80/120 for that ridiculous damage it gets when running around (i can run over some slowmo lvl 7 hero and kill it in say 6 seconds? OMG! I pwned someone).

2 Nulls + Boots, you can roll almost all heroes to their death at level 7 (level 4 roll), when purist put a level 4 repel on you. It is way too imba. 36 mana is not much considering you can roll for 5 seconds by level 7.

1.8 Int growth really hurts, he gains massive mana and it gonna make everyone max out roll out. (couple with the heal, gg to other team)

285 movespeed + 65 is like 340 movespeed, add in another BoT and the hero overwhelms.

My opinion or advice, add in a maximum amount of time that you can roll (say 6 to 10 secs) or increase the mana cost further... or it will be way to imba to use this hero.

As for the ultimate, maybe, 1600/1800/2000 for non-invis then 300/400/500 for invis (imagine how sad riki is when you can sense him at such a far distance.) and then maybe a aghanism to increase the range to 2400/600.

My opinion only.

84 By Anroid 2008-01-16

give some demo naman para mlaman nmin ang effect ng skill!!!

85 By kraven35 2008-01-18

A STR hero that only depends on skill are not that good
Hey its just like Doom right?
STR but needs a lot of mana >_

86 By roven_the_great 2008-01-20

i dont like the story very much,u say she existed even before the night elves?then she must be like millions years old,cus some elves live for like 10-100 years,mortred lived 10 years only watching prisoners. any way i like the hero but i think roleout is a bit imba.

87 By johnnyx92 2008-01-20

oh dude the ulti is clean the famous movies comment, I See Dead People....and living people...is perfect for an gank,

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91 By darrell13 2008-01-21

A Great Hero! He can spot when danger is coming! and he can hide! /gg

92 By darrell13 2008-01-21

I wish this hero will be added soon! 6.50!!

93 By Noability 2008-01-23

the mega tank rofl

94 By MarkDota 2008-01-24

This hero can't be killed :P has movement speed increase, strenght hp, armor bonus with ultimate and can even walk through forests.

Bit imba imo :)

95 By Waazzaa 2008-01-24

Great hero I like it...
And i have to agree with most ppl that it will be very hard to kill since she can walk through trees get lots of armor, ms and all that..
and 1 thing i dont understand, If ur in the forest u dont need to use it again when the (level 1) 3 sec has gone,
and the spell will be activated when u come near a tree, why increse the last time if it kinda dont need lasting time...
why not decrese the cooldown instead?

96 By lokiiris23 2008-01-25

A good support strenght like trent,its good in 5on5,4on4,or 3on3....

97 By assassin360 2008-01-26

this hero is in dota 6.49???

98 By grande 2008-01-26

imagine if someone on ur team left then u can forest walk to a place where u cant be attacked and activate 6th sense and get a free map hack for you and your team

99 By joker206 2008-01-26

the 3rd skills seems useful

100 By Bums17 2008-01-30

hmpf .....
to owerpowered ! ..
nice idea, but to ovepowered.. need's nerfing

101 By bandai 2008-02-01

I like the 2º and 3º skills very originals,but the 1º is just like a tango n the devour of lucifer a sucking skill she alredy have the forest walk as a defense skill also with the ulti..

102 By Pazu 2008-02-11

i really like this hero build but i kinda think that the ult should have a bit of a longer cooldown... say maybe 60/50/40? it may still be short but that 20 sec cooldown seems a bit too imba since u can just throw it up wait a little bit walk some then throw it up again but still i really like all of the other aspects of this hero

103 By berto1286 2008-02-14

good hero, especially if he had better str and int items

104 By TheWrathofGod 2008-03-04

Good ideas
Skill 1: good idea seems balanced
Skill 2: needs to be buffed. Have the cooldown and manacost slope down. Put into perspective, nerubs invis Cooldown is 6 seconds, for 60 mana, and it deals damage. i say have the cooldown be 12/11/10/9 and mana be 100/90/80/70
Skill 3: awsome dude
ULTI: keep it passive, why have 100 mana cost and a cooldown if it lasts forever, makes no sence.

Nice ideas and with my changes 10/10

105 By TheWrathofGod 2008-03-04

o and almost forgot for skill 2 add slight movespeed bonus like 5% constant

106 By TheWrathofGod 2008-03-04

forgot my statement about the ulti, didnt read u couldnt move its perfect dude good job!!

107 By Abomasnow21 2008-03-24

I love this guy. He's a moving rock. Great survivability, tough, Rollout is an awesome move imo. Plus, she's a she and a tortoise. that just rox.http://www.dotastrategy.com/images/smileys/smile.gif

108 By LiLkoribo 2008-03-25

ayos lang pangit!!

109 By greasedupcat 2008-03-26

Forest walk into a clump of trees
use sixth sense to see enemy heroes
wait til one is running
Use forest walk and rollout on top of em

I like the idea a lot, original
8/10

110 By zigeo 2008-04-23

original, a tank and a fast mover if played right (i can just imagine this hero with haste) extract seems just right. it deals quite a lot of damage to enemies, but it has a long cooldown. used with rollout however, it could be a nice combo
however, i dont quite agree with your build. i think maybe bashers dont really fit her that well. maybe more armour items to make you impossible to kill would be better? (my opinion) blade mail would be cool with her ulti
nice 1
9/10

111 By naFOO 2008-05-21

112 By exurachori 2008-06-21

really nice hero, i would like to try it on..

113 By Serathil 2008-07-21

Could have come up with an original name instead of a knockoff from Ghamoo-ra, the turtle boss in World of Warcraft...

114 By cowlickman 2008-07-25

That's actually where I got my inspiration for this hero. More of a tribute than a knockoff, if you ask me...

115 By InkyFingers 2008-08-23

fun and origional. THe health per second would have to drop for tree eating, but not a bad idea.

116 By Nooby_killer 2008-10-29

I like your hero. I wish it will be included on the next dota version