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Nameless - The Shadow Spy

Created by 8t8.linxz on 2008-05-19
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Once when scourge invaded. A village north of the Neshala Woods, a boy told his father that when he grow up, he want to be a undead warrior. His father slapped him and chased him out of the village. Few years passed, he has forgotten his name, who he was and where he is. He is dead. Raise by a passing necromancer who wants to increase the number of skeleton warriors. Surprising Nameless rised, as a strong warrior, able to spy on the enemy or diguise as them, even apon death, unwilling to betray his master and rather suicide.

Stealth Walk (S)
Follow a enemy/ally at fast speed, gains invisibility. Only able to follow 1 enemy.
Level 1 - 10% Moving Speed Increase, Invisible for 15Sec, gains Sight of the target.
Level 2 - 20% Moving Speed Increase, Invisible for 20Sec, gains Sight of the target.
Level 3 - 30% Moving Speed Increase, Invisible for 25Sec, gains Sight of the target.
Level 4 - 40% Moving Speed Increase, Invisible for 30Sec, gains Sight of the target.
Used for chasing, escaping. When chasing enemy, you will only stop and become visible when the enemy

1.Die
2.You Attack Him
3.You Died
4.He turned Invis/Spell Immu
Mana Cost: 50/60/60/70
Cooldown: 20

Framework: You will turn invis and rush to the enemy as fast as you can. You will gain a sight of the unit.

Notes: This skill is a buff so it can be purged by the enemy(If he know you are chasing) or he can stay near a tower =). He can also turn inv to avoid you or spell immu.

Devouration Morph (D)
Nameless can morph into a enemy creep by replacing its place. Enemys will see you as allies but you will be attack by your own creeps. You allies will still see you as allies. *Unable to gain sight of enemy side* Looses disguise when you attack a enemy creep/hero or you press D again to cancel the effect. Kills creeps immediately after you morph into it. Leave A image that can be controlled which deals 0.001% of your damage and take 100% Damage when you morph.
Level 1 - Morph into a creep with only your own stats and damage.(Enemy sees you as normal creeps)
Level 2 - Morph into a creep with your own stats, damage and items.(Enemy sees you as normal creeps)
Level 3 - Morph into a creep with your own stats, damage ,items and armour(Enemy sees you as normal creeps)
Level 4 - Morph into a creep with everything you have!(Enemy sees you as normal creeps)
Press D at all level to morph out. If stealth walk at creep mode, auto morph out.
Mana Cost: 110
Cooldown: 60

Framework: You becomes the creep, silently without notice and a image appear automaticly.

Notes: Do what creeps usually do, dont get denied by enemy team =). Use for surprise attacks.

Soul Seeking Fire (F)
Using his soul exchange for a invisible flame of hell that will follow enemey and strikes by surprise or ally to heal them in need.
Level 1 - Use 25% of his mana to create a flame that can explode apon activate, Deals 50 Damage Or heals 50hp when the health of ally falls below 20%. Able to stack 2 flames per person. Deals 50 extra damage per stack.
Level 2 - Use 25% of his mana to create a flame that can explode apon activate, Deals 60 Damage Or heals 60hp when the health of ally falls below 20%. Able to stack 3 flames per person. Deals 50 extra damage per stack.
Level 3 - Use 25% of his mana to create a flame that can explode apon activate, Deals 80 Damage Or heals 80hp when the health of ally falls below 20%. Able to stack 3 flames per person. Deals 50 extra damage per stack.
Level 4 - Use 25% of his mana to create a flame that can explode apon activate, Deals 100 Damage Or heals 100hp when the health of ally falls below 20%. Able to stack 3 flames per person. Deals 50 extra damage per stack.
Activates by click explode skill on the flame. flame is invulnerable and invisible. Has max speed.
Mana Cost: 25% of mana
Cooldown: 30

Framework: Creats a ball of flame above enemy's / ally's head without their notice. Auto heals or Activates to damage.

Notes: This skill is your only nuke. Deals: 100+150+200 = 450 !! *when fully stacked on a foul* It also heals 300hp when stacked on ally. Pros is that i can be activated one by one or all at once. Kills enemy without them even knowing why. Able to activate it even if you died. Heals paper health allies. Cons. High mana cost, long cool down. have to stack before doing lots of damage. takes 1.5min to fully stack all.

Dead man keeps secrets (-)
Dead man always keeps secrets. As a spy, nameless know that he could only die to benifit his own team when time comes. Creeps around him too listened to his orders, suicide before the enemys kill you.
Level 1 - 10% Chance for Nameless to suicide apon death and 20% for creeps. 5% Chance when he is been stunned or disabled. When he suicide, deals 100 Damage to 300 Radius. When creeps suicide deals 50 Damage to 300 Radius.
Level 2 - 15% Chance for Nameless to suicide apon death and 23% for creeps. 8% Chance when he is been stunned or disabled.When he suicide, deals 200 Damage to 300 Radius. When creeps suicide deals 50 Damage to 300 Radius.
Level 3 - 20% Chance for Nameless to suicide apon death and 25% for creeps. 10% Chance when he is been stunned or disabled.When he suicide, deals 350 Damage to 300 Radius. When creeps suicide deals 50 Damage to 300 Radius.
Your ulti makes other team hate you as your own creeps deny themselves like crazy and they cant kill you as it says you have killed yourself
Mana Cost: -
Cooldown: -

Framework: Nameless explodes , releasing a black mist that damages enemy. Creeps has skull above their head, releases green mist(epic final) When exploded.

Notes: YOU CAN STILL BE KILLED, this skill is mainly use to deny and enemys will think twice before killing you at low health as they might get killed instead of you(sucide)

Discussion:

Skill Info

This skill is mainly used for escaping or chasing. This idea came from the agony i had when i lost my prey/food after my chase with fletcher's wind walk. This skill ensures that you will catch him =) But has a con that you will follow him till you attack him, kill him or die yourself. Able to target ally mean you will follow an ally, which can be canceled.

This skill is very hard to understand. You will morph into an ENEMY creep where your own creep can attack you but your team cant. You can attack your ally in this form to trick your enemy. A controllable image is left to fool enemy that you have backed or something or you are hugging tower. When he come beside you, BOOM, you whack him! And.. been a enemy creep means. He cant whack you!

This skill is used to damage enemy be surprise. It can be stacked by 3 times dealing lots of damage. Good that you can choose when to bomb it. It too heals allies. A 300 Hp heal aint less to a dying hero. Cons is that it has a 25%mana cost where you cant spent as you hav a small mana pool. Mana must be saved for stealth walk.

Your ulti is going to be hated by many heros, especially melee cleaving heros, eg. SVEN. Denying yourself mean killing yourself instead of your enemy killing you. They dont get the money nor the experience, and the 300Damage is a pain in their butt. Makes their life really difficult and farming at your lane is a pain. A 20% chance suicide mean every 5 times he kills you, you will suicide 1 time.

Skill synergies

This ensures kill, backstab and use soul seeking on him.

Perfect backstab.

Your Last Choice of combinations.

Item Build.

Provides with mana and heal when you dies.
Death is now a meaningful thing to you.
Dont mind dying =)

Immolate while Stealth Walk
60 Damage, Ouch. And evasion too!

Attack Speed,
MORE, you have high and with this you are higher.

Self Explaination
MOVE EVEN FASTER!!!

Other possible builds like:

Killer Build

Killer Build No.2

All Kinds of possible builds depending on the situation.

Best allies

He is MADE SPECIALLY FOR YOU! Your ulti + His Ulti = GGx10

He slow you hit Haha ( ANY SLOW HEROS )

This Boy Need your heal!

No one in the team will die with 2 god like healers.

Worst Foes! WATCH OUT

Silence your Ulti! Deadly

You Need your mana!

Overall

Nameless is a very item dependent hero with some shity skills. He have to farm well and deny good to be above level the others to kill. His ulti are hard to control, only improves his overall. He has high base damage and stats gain(i guess) to over cover his lousy skills sort of. He is a CHASER not really a tank. He will need any damage item or attack speed item.

This character shouldnt be newbie friendly to me.

Thanks for reading

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1 By nicholasni 2008-05-19

Love it, needs small adjustments i think.

2 By roupen 2008-05-19

good hero but the item build is very bad you should't buy mor than 2 waist band and only in the beginning of the game for extra hp armour and mana

3 By i_am_me 2008-05-19

3rd skill

25% of "remainig" mana or "max" mana??

cooldown is too long.. make it 20 or 25..

the creep thing is imba..
that means spell and physical dmg immunity when there are enemy creeps..

for stealth walk..
so you can't stop him when he is chasing before you hit the enemy, or the enemy die, etc etc??

good idea..

4 By FreakilleR 2008-05-19

CoOL skiLLs

5 By extasy 2008-05-19

Too imba.... first skill is like sprint + ww + slardar's ulti(vision)
2nd skill - morph into a creep, and enemy sees u as ally, but ur allies see u as ally too? What can u do, kill creeps, what's the purpose??? That's even better spell than naix's ulti
3rd skill - 25% mana for 100hp heal? Useless
4th skill - 350 dmg won't scratch anyone, worse than suicide -_-

I don't like it - 3/10

6 By Mr.Iff 2008-05-19

I do fucking love his ultimate XD the self deny is just ROFL!!!!!

7 By Rohan Gupta 2008-05-19

a nice idea.

8 By KawaiiDesuNeh 2008-05-19

Stealth Walk
-useless for chasing in early game, you dont want to be in towers sight.
Devouration Morp, WTF?!?
-if you as creeps killed by allied creeps are you dead?
-If lich and fletcher serve you for lunch are you dead?
-If you have aura items will it take effect?
-useless because enemy will easily notice you because you'll get your godly items in work making you super creep!
SSF
-this is no nuke! nukes are those fast CD w/ heavy damage
Ulti
-good

9 By Counter_Force[X] 2008-05-20

skill 1#-stop copying SB
skill 2#-so now youre giving ability to sneak up to low HP towers and take it down the the most unsuspecting moments. you wont take damage from enemy aoe too i believe; imba
skill 3#-ok even macropyre wont be as good
ulti-now we know what denying is dont bother telling. So when an enemy chases you 10% ho to a bunch of creeps, you deny yourself and deals 850 damage. for a hero with lots of imbaness this skill is pure shit and i believe suicide does better

4/10

10 By OnlyTheHeart 2008-05-20

lol i like wat KawaiiDesuNeh said...wat happens when ur in creep form and lich or bone fletcjer kill u?

11 By KING-MANKIND 2008-05-20

I really really really like this hero but I do believe that if u change somethings this hero would be better.

exemple:

-this hero must be INT.
-the creeps disquise skill is better then naix's and naix has it as an ulti, so I won't approve of it.
-3rd skill and 1st leave it as is
-ulti is missing something.. it should 4 exemple have a cooldown like skeleton king's but jst a little shorter. just b4 the hit that can will kill u it triggers the skill. u & all creeps nearby suicide FTW :lol

12 By KING-MANKIND 2008-05-20

plus when ur creeps suicide and they kill nearby creeps, the enemy creeps will deal damage too it's like a chain bomb.. it's much better improved this way imo, and it gives mass pushes a real threat when u're in.. plus 350 in nothing buff it dude u're suiciding suicide and fuck them up buff buff buff the ulti FTW I'll give it 7/10 cz I really like this hero but there is some fixes to do

13 By Shadowinks 2008-05-20

Seems quite balanced and creative. 10/10

14 By ziyan1994 2008-05-21

is it me, or is the AGI too high for a lvl 1??? or does it make up for the low INT???

15 By Ndabu 2008-05-21

I think this is a verry innovative hero,needs a bit of work tho.

would love to see this in Dota.

8/10 from me.

16 By looneytunes 2008-05-21

bad grammar but really cool ideas

17 By Zabasaz 2008-05-22

I don't see how this made it past mod screening.

18 By viperstar 2008-05-22

the creep thing is imba maybe change that skill to like a lifesteal or crit? maybe a movement speed aura to go with ur 1st skill?

19 By folechno 2008-05-22

I don't quite understand how the soul seeking flame. Is it like an ingus that is invis that suicides like techies? With your ulti, will you get gold from creep when it suicides?

8/10 for imagination (or not in the case of the first ability[Baranthum's Charge])

20 By DiZ-aSS 2008-05-23

his ulti woul piss off so many ppl if the hole team denied them selves

21 By poisonous04 2008-05-23

u shoul reconsider the soul seeking flame, but the ulti is genius
10/10

22 By indistinguishable 2008-05-23

wow i love it. looks damn good. but soul seeking fire has a too long cool down for such a small nuke. maybe 15 seconds? or less? since one stack is about 50? plus the mana cost is way too high

23 By FreakilleR 2008-05-23

24 By iankath123 2008-05-23

25 By TasteMySweetRvenge™ 2008-05-24

Stealth Walk? Its like Barathrum's CHARGE of DARKNESS..

Stealth Walk? It Should Be Stealth Run cause youre not chasing an enemy by walking..

His NAME should be: "Nemeless- The Suicider"..

Because he likes SUICIDE..
but i like the way you try to EXPLAIN "nameless" SKILLS..

..7/10

26 By Brewser 2008-05-24

yea i like it
nice ulti, different
7/10

27 By rllian 2008-05-25

1st skill is way too imba. You kidding me max haste instantly towards an enemy? wow. This guy doesnt need shoes. 2nd skill is ridiculous. Seems pretty useless to me since you actually get attacked by your own creeps. And you can actually still get denied. lol. your nuke is useless. 1.5 mins to fully stack them all? lol. and the damage is horrible. Ulti is way too imba too... If that's the case, he actually has a sort of passive shallow grave. This is insane

28 By Ex Calibur 2008-05-25

Very good. The morph and Ulti skills are quite unique.

29 By Death20 2008-05-25

Am I the only one who noticed this, or is his lvl 4 third skill basically a map hack? 522 ms, invisibility, and invulerability that tracks heroes.

I would also like to ask what happens when the target turns invisible or tps. Does it still tail them around or does it just sit there?

30 By Davrull 2008-05-26

what If you Morph into a dieing Creep? Can you be Denied?

31 By blister195 2008-05-26

1st skill
wind walk + track(gondar ulti) :confused:

2nd skill
new idea but no duration?how about walking near tower?revealed or not?

3rd skill
25% of mana(max?) is good..but since the flame is invincible + 522MS,should make a status icon like barathrum charge of darkness.

4th skill
weird...'suicide apon death'..wtf.. Lol: just like techies's suicide but creep also involved.imba

32 By sexyrexy02 2008-05-26

I had an idea like this - I think some spelling needs checking and yeah it needs a little adjustment.

If you can morph into stuff whos to say you can morph into a neut?

33 By juliana_and_chris 2008-05-26

hey how do u create icons like there spell icons,hero icon??
how??
im trying to figure out

34 By plads 2008-05-27

when you change into an enemy creep,can you kill yours and gain money
?????

35 By plads 2008-05-27

also with soul seeking fire...... 25 per cent of the total mana of the player or the mana you have that very instance???????????????if it is the second you can spam the ability every 30 sec!!!!!quite unfair i think......

36 By xsimo 2008-05-30

Good thinking i like it

37 By Butt Man 2008-05-31

You can always change the wraith bands in for butterflies or sny late game.
Dont stick with them

38 By its07005 2008-06-02

Its alright... nice skills tho!

39 By russell_castillano 2008-06-04

nice, just adjust a little bit

40 By faceeater 2008-06-04

I think that devouration is too unfair of a skill and i think that the soul seeking fire has too much mana cost and cooldown but other than that he is an awesome hero!

41 By KawaiiDesuNeh 2008-06-05

hmmm.. if SSF consumes 25% mana and u have 4mana points left youll be using 1mana point? INSANE!

42 By nwa4life 2008-06-05

lol nice hero. imba man i love the first skill that for chasin lik SB i love that skill. Also i lik the whole ulti thing thats nice. Also the story is fun to read. Poor retard wanted to be undead lol. nice 1 good job. XD.

43 By 8t8.linxz 2008-06-09

Ok firstly,

If you morph into a creep, you have ur stats and item. that means you have 600+ health even you are at level 1, does that mean they can kill you or deny u so easily? and you have to prevent been getting hit and not alerting your enemy, and >.< sorry for not putting the time, it last for 60 sec and you can be attacked by heros even if you cant be denied yet, so if u act suspisiously they can attack u!

44 By 8t8.linxz 2008-06-09

Secondly,

For SSF, it is 25% total mana, it is not only 100 HP heal, at times of needs it provides 300 hp instantly. which mean if his health falls below 10% it gives his 100. it is to prevent healing occuring before 10% so that you allies still can be killed. and the SSF is like a invisible buff, if u turn spell immu or inv it is gone. It deals 450 damage at 3rd charge.... thats not a pain nuke? by the way you can charge the fire and give a sudden chase if he escapes you can kill him w fire

45 By 8t8.linxz 2008-06-09

Lastly ulti is not a shadow grave as it is only 20% chance for nameless to sucide and it is mainly used to out farm your enemy... means 25% of the creeps suicide and that means every 4 creeps die 1 will deny and deals dmg. thats the use of his ulti just to out farm people and stop saying it as imba as it is made as a ulti so it got to be something right?

46 By Ranbard 2008-06-10

the creep skill makes up for everything else

47 By locotaz007 2008-06-13

48 By siansaechao 2008-06-15

let me just ask how can u work the 1st skill? it randoms the enemy vision? ROFL, how about u want the guy with 5 hp but instead u get the vision of the guy with full hp eh? or how about lets make it more rigged, make it like bloodseeker skill vision of 40% hp :) make this bitch ass hero more rigged.

49 By Frosty boy 2008-06-20

like it

50 By safyrohn 2008-06-23

haha.your crazy man...your 2nd skill sucks...any way i like ol of d comments posted der just d way wat i,ve olredy thought...dud

51 By PrinceOfSpeed 2008-06-28

i like this hero alot the ult is the best move ever

52 By adsf 2008-06-30

i dont know what adjustments i'd make great job son i wunna test out this dude if i had the chance

53 By krawller 2008-07-08

1st skill:
I think that this is just useful for escaping because what if the enemy you're chasing hugs a tower? or what if he carries a gem of true sight?

2nd skill:
what else are you gonna kill?creeps?and as you said, your own creeps can attack you, and yet you can't attack them.

3rd skill:
25% mana for just 100 hp heal?or you can use it to attack enemies by surprise?I don't think one's mana pool can't handle this many mana needed.

Ulti:
You kill yourself for only 300 dmg.

54 By septilor 2008-07-21

who can beet isben

55 By d3vilsl4yer 2008-07-22

hey xz......i commented......

56 By Hermit Solmu 2008-07-22

Just gonna suggest; the ultimate should be called Dead Men Tell No Tales.

Just sayin'.

57 By Ginter_05 2008-07-28

ahmmm, his skills are not so tough. If you don't die so often you will not mostly benefit from his ultimate. Maybe some changes would be great to increase the effectiveness of his skills. Enemy creeps always move in a pattern. Professional player can somehow notice when you where in disguise.

58 By Onytae 2008-07-30

good hero

59 By HatesIntelligenceHeros 2008-07-30

Have you played Ragnarok Online before?
"Stealth Walk" looks very alike to Ragnarok Online's Stalker's Skill, Chase Walk/Stealth.

Nice imagination, however,you need a Hotkey for your ultimate even if it costs no mana, no cooldown, or if it's passive.

Not much thinking on the stats growth, it seems, needs some adjustments on your punctuantions, grammar and spelling.

I like the story line of this hero, and that's all I liked about it.

60 By hotcakes2 2008-07-30

dude if u escape with less than 10 % and u suicide for nothing

61 By [T]o[N]g 2008-08-02

62 By yanyan 2008-08-03

Nice hero! I love his first skill!

63 By leonheart[z] 2008-08-07

wow, if u as a creep can cast any spell it's so imba i guess..

64 By thmabes 2008-08-14

wow... i couldn't even read this. learn some english and rewrite this whole thing. terrible.

65 By killua14dx 2008-08-17

just for professionals! hehehe!

66 By knnbden 2008-08-17

Self Deny LOL

67 By sharx 2008-08-19

Very nice idea for hero...great skills and good assist but, no need to be in shape of skeleton, he is fast and like shadow...maby somthin more smooth shape :)like antimage maby...!

68 By cruzher 2008-08-25

That's a good hero but i think it's item build is preety bad so maybe u should change it's item build a bit.. Haha but dun mind coz that was a good hero.. keep on doing those stuff..