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i like the raise dead thing, but is it good?
Very strong item. Depends on how you use it.
use it only in mid game
Damn it why can't be used by tinker?!
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Never really bothered to use this item. What situations/heroes is it good for? Does the raised warrior have a lot of hp? If so death pact might be good in conjunction?
The best item ever for mr. Bane Elemental
the raise dead includes a unit that can mana burn when fully upgraded
bane elemental suits this one.. :D
tinker cant use this because he has re-arm...
This item is really good with Atropos, it helps a lot for hero killing.
Can sum1 tell me how much damage do the summoned units do? And do they have a lot of hp? A good way 2 counter these units would b purge. If these units don't have a lotta hp they will disappear in one purge!!! Sum1 help me. I'm confused.
why waste purge on summoned things that disappear afta a duration? good for ezalor, if u get lured to the forest, necro, ignus fatus and u got urself permanent creep allies
y cannot use by tinker
yah.. y?
rearm, thats why :P
if tinker had it. necro, rearm, necro, rearm, necro, rearm = infinite army for a duration of 30 seconds.
As Steve-O pointed out, this gives 2 true-sight warriors at lvl 3. Priceless info.
The necro wariors have pretty big hp and damage and they are quite powerful.
maybe lvl 3 necro, but not first level.
have a question about the true sight thing...
do you need to activate/summon warriors to gain true sight or the book @lvl3 gives true sight already even w/out activating it?
Is this any good with pudge?
very usefull item. need to know how to use basis.
ezalor and bane elemental. just dont summon the undead when ur usin nightmare with bane.
ive seen a techies do good with this
Goblin Techies? Goblin Techies only needs BoT, Blink Dagger, Arcane Ring, Bloodstone and Aghanims or 2.
this item is not for beginners. needs lots of micromanagement
eternal.nubzzz no brain. don't know why cannot be use by tinker
cos tinker has rearm. if Tinker had it, hed hav an infinite amount of minions to push
hhmm this is my fav 1 on 1 item....the raise dead..is like this......the necro warrior has mana break.......on lvl 1 and....has a last word..skill meaning if you killed him you will have damage also......the...necro archer....have manaburn..have an aura that boosts your attack speed and movement speed.....on every upgrade........and on lvl 3.... they got.....true sight....and last but not the least......they are..immune to spells..need to say more????
A must for Bane. A great item for Rhasta (after euls) and Enigma (after blink dagger). Synergises with Black Hole/Shackles/Fiend's Grip. And look at the hp + mp gain up there ^. Just too nice to pass up. Just practise some microing and see Bane owning 1v1 everytime!
Well the summoned warriors main purpose is to?
1. Damage opp heros and creeps
2. Tank opp heros and creeps
3. Mana burn(orb)and mana burn(skill)
4. Escape faster or pushing better or chase better due to aura
5. Use to scan for invis unit or bombs*** "saving" money for wards + 99.99% less risky compared to holding gem
I think out of the 5 mentioned above, the last 2 points would be the most viable. The warriors summoned only last for 30s! This means that u can only at most push for 2 waves of creeps. Yup, well it depends on the situation huh :(
Anyways, if i'm not wrong, the warriors like have 800hp and ridiculus dmg
i never really bothered getting this item. rather spend the money on dmg items.
Seems good enough for Rhasta...
Vodoo -> Necrosummon -> Ward -> Shackle seems to be a very damaging combo...
Do the warriors or archers have some sort of nuke where they sacrifice themselves? I heard that from someone else, and if so it would be amazing paired with tiny's throw.
i just get this when i m usin a disabler hero. i let them run away whereever they want, but usually close to my hero, so any creeps they kill, i get a % of that exp
Powerful item when upgraded to level 3
saw a beastmaster use this, worked pretty well
i use this with magna sometimes. not bad for him.
it cant be used by tinker coz of rearm!...
In the latest version this item is usable by Tinker only it cannot be rearmed.
this item roks with enigma!
tinker shouldve been allowed to use it b4, when u summon up necronomicons, it dispels the old ones.
Necromicon Warrior and Archer are afraid of Roshan. They don't attack that thing.
Oh really? I didn't know that they wont attack roshan. You tried it?
Neither Roshan nor the Necromicons want to touch each other. Try it yourself.
oi when 1 die when lvl 3 the warrior will deal back 600 dmg jus wack wack, enemy pissed kills it = hopefully death or most likely returns to base= more farmin,higher lvls,both ways, this is worth it
dota vesion 6.43 +ai.. mode:-apnpomne
-pe.. try fight aginst omniknight, he uses necronomicon3 w/ level 5 archer/warrior!!??
is that a bug??
Necro 3 releases lvl 5 minions!! (ofcourse... lvl3 is the item lvl not the summon! geez)
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it can be used by tinker!!! they just dont spawn! Well how come manta style works with tinker... imagine a hundred tinker bazaaring in front of your base)
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USES OF NECRO 3
1. TRUE SIGHT... A GEM THAT DOESN FALL WHEN U DIE!!!
2. MANA BURN...
YES IT HAS ACTIVE MANA (175)BURN AND PASSIVE MANA BURN(75 PER HIT)... THE SHORT RANGE MINION HAS ORB EFFECT! READ IT!
(YES IT CAN BURN ALL OF SKELETON KING, SAND KING, PUDGE, ROTTFELLEN, VENOMANCER,S MANA)== BYEBYE MANA!!
3. FARMING= DID YOU KNOW THAT THE SUMMON'S BASE DMG PUT TOGETHER IS BIGGER THAN THE HEROES?
MINION 1 (50-60 DMG)
MINION 2 (90-100 DMG) THATS AROUND 150+
MOST INT TYPES GET LESS THAN 100 DMG..
GOOD WAY TO FARM EH?
4. LAST BUT NOT THE LEAST!!!! THE MOST ANOYYING
THEY EXPLODE!!!! BOOOOM!!!!!! I DUNNO HOW MUCH BUT ITS MORE THAN 300 DMG EACH!!!== THAT IS IF A HERO KILLS IT, IT WILL EXPLODE TO THAT HERO... BUT THE HERO GETS 100 GOLD... AWWWW
I have typically found that with Rhasta, you do'nt even need to use wards for the kill. Just necro -> shackles. necro archer mana burn. when shackles over, voodoo, all the while your necros are hitting. Once voodoo is over, just bust out forked lightning. Also, I'm pretty sure (but not positive) that the melee necro cannot hit a hero that is trapped in wards. aka not a perfect synergy. Someone correct me if I am wrong about that. Thanks.
I think Furion should use this cause NecroArcher/Warrior + FoN + Sprout = great damage.One ulti and we have a kill!
I think Furion should use this cause NecroArcher/Warrior + FoN + Sprout = great damage.One ulti and we have a kill!
nothin melee can hit those trapped in wards
only good wen invisi opponents.
acts as a gem for a while
dont ever get this item its a waste of money to keep upgrading 2750 :( i dont think so hats like over 7000 gold At lv 3 really dont recommend this item
I'e tried this with Tinker,it works for him
....only thing is that when u rearm when it is in cooldown the timer restarts......
its not a waste to upgrade this item, they deal lots of damage, mana burn, true sight and damage return upon death
it is a very useful item specially on an expert hands...
dude its not 2750 to upgrade it... all you have to buy is the recipe just like dagon not the whole stuff
this item sucks for tinker, it will not be rearmed boooo
This is Only good if you Have all Your core items
This is a nice anti-invisi hero item. Costly yes, but at level 3 scroll - true sight that is mobile and can't be dropped is a thing of beauty. Anti tekkies item of note.
At level 3 the archer has 270 mana burn and the warrior has aura effect increase move speed.
The counter for this item is hand of midas.
Zombie (undead) uses this to best effect. Cast plague for slow and increased dmg from spell. Hit the Necronomicon (book) and use the archer to mana burn the enemy. You are now faster and the enemy is slower and has less mana. plus soul rip has 2 more bodies to use.
Nice with channel disable heros like enigma who casts book, black hole and then uses the dead to mana burn and attack. After hole gone uses increased move speed to chase -- or run in case of failure.
This is a nice to have item, only a must against goblin tekkies or other random invis heros.
Oh yeah i forgot, this is fun if you are Abadnon against a hero who is tower hugging. Get the book, cast your shield on the dead and control it while it chases the hero and mana burns. Shield pops for dmg then the dead dies for more dmg. If the tower kills the dead then hero doesn't even get 100 gold just the dmg.
Must test to see Lucifer can devour the dead.
hOw the hell can it have true sight
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it hurts when the summon explodes!boom!!!
it's a good item for bane elemantal because u can have a kill in a few sec (if the opponent doesen;t have uber str )
the combo will go like this : sleep ,(a few sec before the sleep goes )necro summoning ,ulti , brain swap ... hey i should write a guide :D
Has anybody ever thought to use this on pudge? It gives you some strength and while you're dismembering they can help you finish the job.
when meelee heroes hit them u deny them...boom! enemy hero get no gold and damaged???
LOL, THIS IS FROM ARMY OF DARKNESS!!!! Lol, you guys never saw that movie have you... well, you're all n00bs, cuz you dont get where this is from.
Whoa... Manabreak or feedback is worse than Anti-mage..
may i know where I can buy the recipe scroll? sorry for asking this question, it just that i cannot find it anywhere. Thx to those who answer my question.
how to upgrade?
yes, i want to know how to upgrade it.
It just that i cannot find the recipe scroll they are asking for. thx for helping me out.
this item is useless if the opposite team have a doombringer..
just devour the necro warrior then kill the necro archer for 100gold :-p
eh.. if u use devour on a red hp warrior, u will take dmg if the warrior is fully devoured so allways devour the full hp warrior. im devour the necro warrior not for kill him n get money.. just for hold him n make him can't attack
can anyone tell me how to upgrade this book from lv. 1 to lv. 3? thx
Buy the recipe again to upgrade.
Would this be good for pugna?
I like this item, the raising dead skill is cool. XD
POTM?
Bigger mana pool
Higher combo damage
True Sight
Bit more hp
Is it worth it? If anyone try's tell me.
walang gagawin 2,, sayang pera mo.....mas maganda ang mecca kc mabilisan ang push
Great for akasha
Wrong tooltip and icon, necromicon uses 3 icons depending on its level. Also, its not affected by rearm, but can still be used by boush
works well on POTM if she lands a 5 second stun. otherwise, theres no point
on 5v5.. all u and ur friends get this.. then u alll gank 1 hero.. and activate this he dont know what to do.. and nwwhere to run too..he'll be trapped//
good for chen of course
I see a bit of confusion here.
The invisibility is on only 1 of the minions and so is the true sight. One of them also has a movement speed aura which is great for chasing. Again only 1 has the life break, when he dies he deals 600 dmg to the hero who killed him. Very very effective in higher level play and if you can micro well! CHEN, BANE, ENIGMA, RHASTA AND ANY CHANNEL STUN HERO FTW!
i this best for medusa for summoning?????
No one mentioned Rexxar, this item is great for rexxar, use rexar ulti and summon these units and your Greater Quilbeast. you are attacking to enemy with 4 units! no way he can go away. also this gave rexxar good intelligent and mana regen, so he can spam his wild axes.
necro's ae unbelieaveable...
those little dudes got me godlike when my enemy didnt realise that killing 1 of them inflicts 600 dmg on him!
epic
this item is wierd very hard to us, everyone says not good and not worth is it true???
u must be good to use this item.if u can control the summons u can easily pawn ppl.espescially when u r using heroes like atropos,warlock,naga,and some more.it depends.
how much mana does it burn when it's upgraded to level 3?
I found that it can be useful when alone with Luna. Just throw these out there and take MUCH less damage.
i think only the blue unit explodes and deals damage. is it true????
use it for atropos.....
use on visage with mekansm, on lv3 all your gargoyles and you get 9% atkspeed more, and you have up to 10 minions, which you can all heal with mekansm.
Gah, how do you "upgrade" this item..? I have 3 of them...but don't know how to upgrade it to level 3. (I have 3 level 1 of them)
ok the way to upgrade this and dagon is simple. Buy a lvl 1 book by buying a belt, a staff, and the recipe. 2 upgrade it just buy the RECIPE ONLY. Now u have lvl2 book. Same 2 upgrade 2 lvl 3 just BUY RECIPE ONLY. Btw this goes well with invoker ad u can get fire spirits and necros plus stun and slow = Ftw. Mana burn is overkill. If u need 2 just finish off with 1 of aoe spells or d blast.
what are the stats on the archer and warrior?
