Super-wolf!!

Damn I was in the process of writing a Guide. Went into some deep lengths there. It's alright.

Regarding getting Vlad's and Cuirass in the same game; I've heard that their auras do not stack. Anyone able to deny or confirm this?

This is a very detailed and correct guide.Wolves are great harrasers as you said. Items are also the same. Good guide. One point though, I think at this stage Lycan gets harrassed a lot as many know his potential late game. I think it is plausible to stand nearby if facing a ranged opponent and let your wolves farm for you.

Shouldn't you get assault cuirass to help the wolves with their bash and crits? I dont now, but thats just me. I usually get assault before SnY.

@Sandbag

Only bonus armor dont stack. Which isnt a really big issue.

Good guide, pretty straightforward and nice screenies.

@Sandbag

Only bonus armor dont stack. Which isnt a really big issue.

Its definitely the right build.

@Sandbag

Only bonus armor dont stack. Which isnt a really big issue.

Hmmm its an ok strat...

i only dis agree xD with the tank build "Mekansm" xD only imo your wolves can be summoned again and again is it that important for you to use Meka on them while you dont have that much mana to spare >_>

10/10 decent guide ._. and i forgot i also dis agree at the perma bash build

bashers and mkb dont stack together either mkb will over ride the bash of basher or the other way around but seriously i use the perma build since i really dont like Sny on lycan

Super-wolf??sounds kinda corny and lousy..tsk

BTW, Bashers and MKB's must never be in the same inventory, unless it's your courier's.

Basher with basher is better than basher with MKB. That much I know. MKB bash restarts the count, and basher prolongs it. Kinda...

SnY wastes the attack speed and movespeed. Lycan can run fast enuf without the extra boost. However, I think the maim is a good addition.

EoS anyone? It helps in mana, and damage, not to mention health. Downside is, its expensive.

MKB and Basher override and fail miserably, Meka fails miserably - but those are your alternate builds only (I suggest getting rid of them anyway).
Theres actually a lot more in here than I thought when I looked the first time... I keep thinking that every skill needs to be explained and when I see the explanation for only one skill, I disregard the fact that the rest are all passives or near-passives lol.

I can't think of much to add, point-and-click hero again. Maybe team fight tactics. 9/10

nice strategy and nice build.. very well said..

Multiple Bashers do stack from what I am told. The Stack is diminished. 2 bashers i belive is about 17-18% chance to bash, correct me if i'm wrong. As for MKB and Bashers... no clue. If a person wants to really mess around... 3 Bashers with wolves lol. It works....

Excellent strat, good job on showing how to use the wolves in your attack strat. However I don't quite agree with wolves beeing the best harasser, IMHO Enchantress's Impetus is better early game. 10/10 I learned a lot from this.

1. threads
2. sange and yasha
3. basher
4. basher
5. vlads
6. HoT
this is usually my build

Youve a very good strategy... Though i must tell you that mkb can override a proper stun. The mini stun replaces the current stun. SO just stick with the basher.

very good strategy for a chick lol ^_^.good job.ill play lycan heapz now

nice tactic but i usually see ppl buy 1 bash for him as he already has wolves and high aspd

It was informative but the screenies weren't clear enough. You did a great job on focusing on the wolves more which I usually do.

Overall, need to work on some of the tiny scratches on your guide.

not bad, 7/10

WOW OMG ive like never used lycan nd this is a awesum strat.

but alot of ppl do use 2 basher build for perma stun with the wolves but urz is still extremly effective.

good! good strat guide. the 5 remaining guides must be that good too. anyway, congrats for getting #6!

this is what exactly i needed coz i'm planning on using lycan on my next game. thanks!

Nice guide, but i would like to share my build for lycan.
I usually get a:
Treads (str)
S&Y
Satanic
Assault
MKB or linkens
Battle fury
Thanks for the guide anyway

A permabash banehallow. good job

@comment 11, you're juz jealous.. -.-

hmm.. nice guide... almost the same build as mine.. though in diff. order.. i rush for treads and 3 bracers for super chasing power XD... i usually get a kill when i get those items.. then S&Y and then vlads...

i would like to suggest that 1 of his cons... is lack of teamplay... since he doesnt have any disable or aoe nuke (except for some ministuns from wolves) and aoe skills pawn wolves.. so thats 1 of your probs.. but still effective guide, GJ 9/10 for me

nice long guide.

umm agree with shim about some of the alternate item build aspects, but as for your main build, its more a less what i use so i agree 100% ^_^

skill build is pretty standard, so no complaints

wolves appear to be making a comeback.

Very impressive strategy.
I only disagree with your alternate item builds.
However, other than that, it is an exceptional strategy.

well it was a good guide overall
but some of the screenies weren't clear
9/10

WOW,feels like i've written this guide since... well i play EXACTLY the same, maybe we've met in a game? :P anyways, this definitely deserves a 10/10.
Give it up for Mr. Super-Wolf!!!

try battlefury for damage and farming...
radiance for dps...
i dont usually put bashers on him cuz S&Y pretty much saves me lotsa money :D
also, i prefer getting mkb on your main build because one of lycan's weakness is TP . but this isnt my guide, GREAT guide ! ! ! XD 1 0 / 1 0

oh and you're a girl? wow...goodluck on your boyfriend :)

oh yea, 1 more thing. Buriza doesn't stack with your ulti's crit. So... It's not exactly worth it getting it. Anyway, I didnt know there were actually any girls on ds. I forgot to write down my rating. Good job, 9/10.

The problem with your build is that you lack damage. Sange and Yasha does not give much damage, although you can chase very well with it you can't really do much with it when heroes decide to stand and fight back. Many heroes will be able to out damage you mid game if you don't farm up for at least some damage. Radiance goes well with your high movespeed and MoM is a cheaper alternative to SnY.

Nice guide. I specially liked using the wolves to surprise. 8/10 for me.

to #36
Lycan has a quite high base damage and with his wolves maxed out and S&Y at around level 11 almost nobody is able to outdamage you (you have some decent HP too), especially considering the 2 wolves are bashing + critical from time to time although not as often as the author indicates.

I think the strategy lacks the possibility to farm with wolves early game which is a great and easy thing to do. For this purposee I would also get Basilus before bracers.
Otherwise good guide.

Nice strategy here. Good screenies, nothing to add from me.

I will build like chrizzz24

nice guide, 9/10

Who is the worst enemy for this hero?
I think lich is the 1. For the chain frost... what u say?

where are you from???hahaha!!!

10/10

@fwii~:

Mom is cheaper, but it isn't constant. Plus you're more vulnerable due to an increase in 20% of damage. Neither does it gives any damage too. SnY maxes out his movespeed instantly when bane's ulti is being used. And it has a chance to maim. And once maimed, I highly doubt the enemy still can get away

i have learned so much from this. especially the "dont underestimate wolves coz theyll eat you alive part" great guide! 10/10

Very nice, i would recommend to add Heroes he is good and bad against.

9/10

remove the meka and basher

you dont need SnY, it succks good
get HotD and dominate a troll, end of story

and SnY isnt late game oriented, you'll suffer if you get it for this guy

disagree on RoB as a get item, most of the time, i see it as fail
bottle functions better

oh i forgot

9/10

Wolves block you more often than they help when it comes to chasing so they aren't the most reliable damage source. MoM + Radaince gives more damage than SnY + Vladimirs and they cost almost as much.

i still dont disagree on MoM
this is just experience that i had when facing disables as using it at the wrong moment may be lethal. i do use it sometimes but the benefits to risk are low. and since the new dark troll was introduced, it has became a trend for me to get heroes that uses HotD

i seldom play anyway. i only get MoM with vanguard

and i agree focusing on summon is not good

vladimirs wont do, ask someone else to get it

@comment 35 by rilian
there are a few and only a few female DS members

The problem with having someone else get Vlads is that basically nobody can keep up with you. Safer to get it yourself rather than assume they'll be able to catch up to you in a chase.

And yes, I agree, Wolves are very annoying when you're trying to chase someone, they do only get in the way, but for the application of them that is stated they are supremely efficient - that is, ambush some guy at lvl7 and bash him to death.

A nice guide from a dota chick . You're item build is cool!

hmmm i dont' wanna boast here but my strategy i am writing is better i fell - this not clear enough and wolves thing should be explained much more clearly step by step - farming, chasing etc. Alternate builds are wrong you CANNOT buy basher and MKB together, necronomicon and Meka is nonsense too. Same for Burizza.

But Main Item build is same as mine and his role for team and powers are well explained. 9/10 for me.

I think my strategy is not necessary now, this is good enough

Great guide, detailed information, nice pics - 9/19.
ONly flaw: Itembuild is not the best.. Basher+MKB fails :/
Also maybe add some dmg items?

@shimmy
exactly why i said no to SnY

For me I get the S&Y to be always fast (MS around 460 AFAIK). With ulti your at max speed or at least very near to it anyways with only treads.
The other thing is that with an S&Y the enemy wont be able to get away due to maim. I get the ring of basilus/vlads to always have enough mana and to lifesteal which is both great synergies for cheap cost.
And yes: dont summon wolves if you chase but if someone turns around and wants to fight...just summon and kill. Wolves are not meant to chase.

its been said be4 but mkb and bashers don't work together, 2 bashers stack but not up to 30% like you think they would

great guide, good explanations, nice screenshots and replays.youtube vids, very helpful

your alternative builds could use some work (view 1st comment)

maybe add some team attack/pushing stuff

it's always nice to have a girl playing DOTA so keep it up

9.5/10

I wonder why the author hasn't posted a single comment yet

You may want to censor the names on the screenshots of you getting the triple kill.

im kinda freaked out about how similar our builds are lol. i give this guide a 10/10 cuz it was DEATAILED, ACCURATE, and it had a...."happy" feeling to it

She's busy with her boyfiend lol. GJ and thank you for participating in the DotActics contest!

Meka w Satanic? Waste of Money
MKB And Basher = Fail
But overall I like the guide, however it could be better

Love it... Great guide, especially the early to mid tips on wolves and killing tactics...
One thing though, your permabash build is well... Could be improved... First of all, you can achieve perma as early as single Basher and MoM (treads also work, but take some more time)... Together with wolves, the enemy won't be able to move... However, that's just a detail at the end, the guide is really good, and I find a 10/10 to be a fair score...
GJ!

@Orochi

Maybe..(you're implying something??) ahhhm.. nvermind.. that could be it

ahaha LOL the most overestimated hero in DOTA! sucks so badly that i cry over it he dps then he steals thats about all he do and with good tp (teamplay.not scroll of town portal) hel never get a kill untill late or very late game. thou ur guide might work so il get some kills on pub game or agaist team of idiots that dont tp at all thou i doubt it.

i find that SnY is not really useful for this hero.
Indeed you have a movement speed of about 500 when you become a wolf, it's enough you don't need max speed, i prefer buying a satanic and an other basher it makes more imba

haha, I didn't comment because I didnt even notice this was posted. Only checked DS just now x]

and yes, I'll take all your comments into consideration. I know lots of you are saying S&Y sucks late game, and that's totally true. However, I find that it helps getting a lot of midgame kills, which can get you enough money for some better items - heart, MKB, cuirass, etc. Besides, if you're talking damage, wolf form + howl, you outdamage almost everyone.

And I'll change it to just 1 basher.

good guide

certain things are debatable but this guide teaches you nearly everything you need to know to own

@matti89

...go somewhere else you "eiltist". I despise people who are against pub games and call everything that doesnt work for them as being "noob".

Funny how that is exactly what my build is for lycan

bleh, I just cant survive while Mom is activated. It's easily better than vlads though..

hey, to all those ppl who say that SnY sucks on this hero, and the ulti ms is enough, listen. Whats the cooldown of his ulti?, assuming that he gets SnY at mid game, and his ulti cd should be about 140s. YES, 140SECONDS. With feral heart you can only have about 400ms. eventhough it is high, when you attack, you stop for a while and then chase for another hit. Only the wolvform can chase fast enough to do more hits on a running person. BUT,if you have Sny, you have 450+-ms,and if maim activates?

i usally get my lyncan a lothar's edge because then u can charge in invis with ur wolves >.

why not combine the yasha and sanga to make the "sanga and yasha"?
___
ps: i think lycanthrope is a lot like the syllabear, they both summon wolves/bear and turn into a wolf/bear...
but i like syllabear better becuase his summon is not times and his transformation is not times and plus...UMmm.. i think wolves and cool but not a as as bears.. hehe :)
i know what i said is pretty stupid i would try to say morbut... um.. only 50 words left:( i i immediately stop its cuz my words out
so what wa

You guys are right about MoM, I can see it as a much better replacement to the basher build.

@viperstar: that's why I put lothars in the optional items :)

@calvin7075: it's an error, the build is supposed to be Sange and Yasha, but it only shows yasha.. Xx

good job. sny threads satanic mkb basher and ac is the perfect build for wolf

I must say, after watching ur replays, either:
a) You are Fortune's Favourite
b) Enemies were totally noob
c) You are Really good with this hero

Congrats on getting top 10!

BTW, if I was the poor NS in first replay, I would have been ROFS (Rolling On Floor Screaming).

@73
you won be in action 24/7 so your reasonings fail

sy i meant won't

and i highly believe BoT is better than PT+SnY anyways

Agreed with Cforce here

._. IMO BOT just gives you lanepower changing lanes and MS

Sure you think you lack IAS lol you have feral heart for that and since youll be getting currias as stated in your guide IAS is definitely not a problem

And agreed with the others SNY is a waste wolf form+Bot solves that problem and if your looking for a slow go make skadi or somethin xD LOL

But im just saying SNY its a no no you already pin an enemy with your high MS Still 10/10 for me

Very good strat!!!!
10/10......
Very nice explanation...
Item build is also good
nice screen shots!!!!
Thanks for your strat...

i dont agree with your permabash build, cause mkb distract the 1.1 secs bash by bashers

i go with a similar build, treads, sange and yasha..sometimes i go vladmires offering n yasha n then sange n make yasha...cause of the lifesteal makes farming a lot easier. Also i go 2 bashes...but all in all great strat!!! 9/10!! :D

LoL super wolf 9/10 plus 1 because the joke s funny... overall 10/10

nice, easy readable guide.
I agree with both item and skil builds, although i'd rather go for the 2 bashers and a MoM instead of SnY. the two lifesteals stack + almost certain permabash due to the berserk effect

The maker of this guide is a shit.His mother is a whore who likes to drink lot of sperm.

GTFO motherloser

great, 9/10

BANNED PLAYER DETECTED!

YAY!!!
btw it's BANABLE player for you

gj man i like this hero so much!!!

this hero is so cheap. he is up there with bh and pa good strat

Good guide, really, what I've been waiting for about a year now I think, and here it is, the wolf guide. 10/10 my friend

I tried Lycfirst time after reading this guide. Went 8 and 1....Thanks for helping me own with a hero i always wanted to try :D

classic build.. not bad

LOVE IT!

LOVE IT!

this is a very good guide. comprehensive, very well said.. what place/rank did this guide get in dotactics? congratulations kiettana! can i have a link of the top 10 guides/tactics, anyone? thanks a lot...

I believe I got 6th. and there isn't a whole list yet, only 4 of them have been released. You'll have to wait another couple of weeks :]

haha i used this hero the first time and i got an early kill. The wolves are awesome because I used lvl 3 wolves to trap a hero near the side of the map and killed him slowly. All he said was "wtf"

haha i feel stupid, i didn't realized how good the wolves are (maybe because i hate microing), i always build my lycan without the wolves and the items are:
BoT
Basher
Satanic (HotD first)
Basher
Cuirass
Radiance (if very late game)
this guide really enlightened me about the usefulness of the wolves. thanks alot! 10/10

rad should be first

Why are people suggesting S&Y + satanic? U guys want to sacrifice maim?
The ideal build imo is:
treads
S&Y
battle fury
assault curiass
radi
basher/HoT (depending on ur opponents)

comment to my previous post:
I often prefer vladimirs to basher/HoT

Very well done... I appreciate your work!
I love the fact u explained everything in detail... I'm sure this was the hardest... Some1 who thinks he's a good or decent player and wants to explain a hero for beginners.
Rly gj dude.
Also u included different builds 10/10

greetz

Hey! Enjoyed reading that guide very much. Well-written and extremely clear. This is pretty much exactly how I play bane, and I'm glad you kept the core items to only 4; it's pretty much all he needs to establish dominance in the early/mid game, though bashers/crit will definitely help him late. Unless I missed something, you didn't mention butterfly anywhere in your guide. Though he is str, it's still an item worth considering late game. Cheers to an awesome guide though.

BKB>Butter on this hero
as well as
AC>Butter

dude, nice strat, but a couple of suggestions?
1.Sange & Yasha you seem to be getting only to attain max speed. Just getting Power Treads pushes ur speed to 500. Dont worry bout the remaining 22.
2. When u fight, another trick i like to do with my wolves is to attack my enemy with nothing. They think: no problem, so they dont run. Then u summon wolves, and because ur already hitting ur opponent, they appear BEHIND him. Use ur ulti and boom, theyre trapped between 3 wolves with nowhere to go.

Nice strat tho dude well done

@AsherT

Without S&Y, Lycan's movespeed is around 420 normally. Which is great of course, but he doesnt have a stun or good escape/chase method if his ulti is on cooldown. With S&Y, even without wolf form, he runs pretty damn fast too, which i just like. Maybe i have a need for speed :)

but his attackspeed is high enough to trigger a maim or so, and that's useful too.

your wolf thing can work, but unfortunately, 3 units usually isnt enough to block a person. It's worth a try though :)

Oh, and Counter_Force, did you mean MKB or BKB? because BKB and butter seems an odd comparison. BKB isn't a dps item...

but yes, to those suggesting butterfly: MKB and cuirass are better alternatives. Cuirass offers better bonuses for a non-agility hero who needs attackspeed, and MKB offers more damage for cheaper price.

BKB gives better survivability from butter

not bad keep it up

Let me get this straight.

Satanic gives life steal, but when user hits maim, stanic is overriden and maim takes place.

True or false?

^
no replays, no talk

wohooo this strategy rock thx 5 stars (10)

this is a pretty good lycan guide.

nice.. just that the alternative build is just wrong.. anyway.. thats why its called alternative right? lol.. 9/10

@ 116 true : D
nice strat
@ 94 (i think) wtf???? pa and bh cheaps heroes, they are both shit without any items but when they have them they are unstoppable : D.
dont really need bashers if you get S&Y so get mkb cause with wolf form the micrstuns will work great with the extra damage.
And at getting MoM i dont like it as much as S&Y cause S&Y gives bonus damage when you use howl (strength stats give increase damage with howl).
perma bash is circumstantial. GW : D

Only mods can delete your random unintentional multiposts. Never seen, what was it, seven? Lol.

BKB on Lycan is great, you should put it in as an alternative anti-caster build.

haha yeah, my bad. I didnt realize I did that ><

and BKB is in the optional items part. It's good to add in based on situation.

Really, This Strat is asskicker xD Thank You Very Good.... (for your main build I've Added Vanguard and Basher in the same game... simply owns!)

@116

lifesteal and maim DO NOT stack!!!

unless the lifesteal is an NON-orb efffect via Vlads

This character is an early game-mid game characters.

You're overrating the wolves too much. Their damage, which is around 40, is no where near useful enough. Even if there is two.

The wolves are good harrasers against fragile units such as casters, but against stronger units, such as melee agility characters and str characters. The wolves are rendered useless.

Lycans to boring unless your vsing troll/void/anitmage or any other perma stunner

@flamingdts:

Actually, you're underrating the wolves. You'll only be using them to harrass up to level 8 or so, and in that time, even the best strength character cant stand up to them alone. True, they only deal 40 damage each, but because they run faster than average heroes, they can put in a few wacks. Usually total damage is +100. And my point wasnt for damage anyway. It was to hinder their leveling and boost yours.

Only 2 people I'd advise to not send wolves against - Centaur and Axe.

your skills and strategy is great, so wolf need sny, 2 heart ,vanguard, assault and a power thread? hehe... ty for the tip

There's something I think you left out.. RaD is very handy chasing.. Just a thought though..

Nice strategy. If needed, I sometimes get Vladimir's Offering right after Treads for the lifesteal. Anyway, that's basically how I play Lycan.

Bashers do stack. Kinda. It's like this:
2 bashers have a minimum chance of 15% bash and a max of 30% bash
3 bashers have a min of 15%bash, and a max of 45%.
And 2 bashes can occur at the same time, but the bash is only a normal-time bash. Only the dmg adds.
Oh, and if 2 bashes occur one straight after the other, the second one overrides the first.
Hope this is helpful :)

Actually this is my item build BEFORE but when the time came when i was beaten easily by kardel.. this build is trash.

BASHERS are a must! even if you have sny, basher would be very helpful and I MEAN IT!

huh.....can b improvise......
see SnY...i think better to go with desolator.....

n who r u fighting with..?
invisible hero completely turn lycan to useless hero....=.=

Bashers:
1st: [15%]
2nd: 15% + 15% of the "non-bashing time" (75%)-> 12% [27%]
3rd: 15% + 12% + 15% of the "non-bashing time"-> 11% [38%]

This is called dimishing -.- simple amaths.

Anyways, should radience be included? Since he have fast ms, means that lycan opponents can be at the AoE of radience most of the time, chasing time.

niice guide, like my build back then, my new build now is..
BoT
MoM
Radiance
Heart
AC
Butter

ive tested and this ones better than the sny build imo

Nice Items

Nice Items

If at an early game you have a stunner hero then u might want to make valds before to push. If you survive u will farm aniways so SnY should come easily if u can give the last hit. The harrasing with the wolves is a good idea but dont let 'em veri easy. lYcan is a good hero with strong ulti. Nice guide tho'.

You are so in trouble with this version... not a single one of Lycan's skills is unchanged. *shudder* good luck with that...

@ Kiettana

the same thing as to bish. your guide is still fresh but will need an update. due to changes to lycan on 6.53, people will be interested on reading your guide once updated.

nice i liked very much

actually slitherene guard can keep up with lyc in wolf form if he has sny. his speed is 522 also. and thoughs 2 against each other are a tough match with right items.

hey dude great guide keep up the good work!

i dont really like the new lycan the old 1 form older versions was better

i tried travel on him when I shapeshifted I was like in haste

But Great guide 10/10

@fwii - comment #36 - maybe they are gonna outdamage him, but they cant compare to his attack speed with feral heart, and shapeshift :) muhahahaha! Plus, when you use Howl - thats called Ownage, son :)

@topic - Very nice, and simplified guide, as much as possible ;) Keep on the good work, girl :)

LAKAS MO!

Wow... I'm half speechless.

Well, to be honest, I can't really change this strat. I've only played .53 once so far, and it wasnt with Lycan. When I'll find the time to figure out a better way to use him, I dont even know...

Well I'll see how it goes.

IMO I would get Battle Fury between ring of basilius and Sange. Cleave for farming and just great damage.

awesome

Great guide, thanks for creating!

My favorite hero by far... DEADLY if used correctly. :)

this is the best hero in the game

its the best guide i've ever read

Outdated guide due to modifications.

this was an awesome guide, but since u said to go to the tower lane, it means ur usually facing 2 heroes. I think u shoulda wrote somethin about what to do against 2 heroes. But I am a noob, so i might not know what im talking about.
Anyway, this is definitely a 10/10

also, wolves dont have bash anymore because of the new version.

Yes, people, I understand it's outdated. I understand that this strategy no longer applies to Lycan anymore. Unfortunately, I can't do anything about it. You'll just have to bear with me until I find time to not only figure out HOW to play the new Lycan, but also to update this strategy, assuming a find a good one.

Sorry.

Excellent guide - not much more you can improve than what's already here. Recommend mentioning jungling with Lycan - he's one of the best, if not the best, at doing it with the wolves.

i dont get y u need s&y when u run at max with ulti

lycan rox, lol thanks for the guide im surprised i already just guessed every single item and tip before i read this.

is this guide good for 1 on 1 matches?

lol, r u a girl? i dont see many girls play dota :D

but anyway, ty!! ur guide is good

i give u 9/10 but as u r a girl, it is 1+
so 10/10
cheers!!!