CF[X]'s Bradwarden

Nice one CFX

yep well done

YAY I WAS RIGHT!!!!
num 3 is damn

thanks for the praise

Congrats CFX!

@thanks
and give the shirt to drfiterz

Gratz! I actually voted for this entry to win. Thanks for participating and enjoy your prizes!

best guide evarrr!!

lol
thanks
and i thought that was something private -____-

lol i finally make it this far anyway grats on the placement.
anyway i have read this once and yeah -_-
i got to read it again because shim refuses to tell me anything re: DotActics which is annoying but @other mods, arent you proud of him anyway....
thanks for nearly taking credit for my guide ^_^ and you can kill yourself with double edge.

anyway another brilliant long guide from you.

i have the first place prize money on a large number of people not reading the whole thing.

nice guide..

Annoying guide.

Mmmm even though I did look over this guide how many times its still nice to see it up. As I've told you already, my only disagreement with it is that you've vilified every part of the itembuild I use...
And his computer was on the frizt when I got those screenies for him so don't complain (he probably would have better ones as well).

And yes, you guessed right the whole time and I wasn't allowed to say so lol.

btw, i'd prefer a satanic in the ending build. It really enables you to tank more. Any consideration to armlet too?

Aha, so you WERE right. Congratz...seriously...OWNZ. So if you were right about this, that means the others that you predicted are right too ^^

Its too wall of text oriented. However i like the guide but just kinda skimmed it.

Who wants to bet that this or his puck guide will become premium strats too ^^

congrats cfx i love your guides!! but can i say something about your guide i dont get it why take return late? i mean can you just get hoofstomp and return . but YOUR RIGHT about those people who buys many helm of iron will i consider it pointless why should you buy a lot of those ?? rght? congrats KUDOS 2 u

good i dont disagree with the item build and skill build but its good
but keep up with the strat builds and perhaps if possible if there are changes we let you know for now good job

Hmm it should probably be made clear that this is a tanking Bradwarden rather than something else (for example my Brad is DPS, don't ask but it works, hence my dislike of his hated items).

Double Edge is gotten earlier because it is most effective in early game and more so than Return in most cases (Return doesn't work on casters as they will just nuke you and not attack you).

lol.. for those who complain about wall of text guides... read my guide to DotA.
simply put NO PICTURES
because getting screenies is annoying.

Its so long!
good tho

not that i hate screens, i just couldnt get it to function

@kyel
double edge can suicide, an advantage

@shim
yup, having you as a consultant helps

@ghost
pwned

@rllian
not really, but yes armlet is useful with satanic

@passive666
elaborations plss

@amp
that puck guide has been deleted by a being i call sister

@coco and gank
i love to write

comprehensive! the best!

thanks

silent update will come as soon as this guide vanishes from newest strat section

bby that time other people will defend tthis for me

Oh noez...you must dislike her for that =p =p

i killed her for that

i would be valiantly at your defence within 3 seconds... of me working out someone flamed you ^_^
i expect the same from you if ever the need arises.

i read your guide from this sentence:

"Counter_Force[X] guide entry for the DotActics.",

up to this sentence only:

"He is also quite noob friendly ,as he has a KS-nuke and a great farming skill which makes him a great hero to play with altogether.".

reading all of it is not boring. i learn a lot, really. and you just indirectly persuaded me on using bradwarden after one year of avoiding him. thanks!

nice guide very informative.

How this can be just 3rd?

Great guide!

congrats btw for getting #3, now im curious whose #2 and #1.

your guide deserves 10/10 even with almost no screenies. update? that'll be nice.

Return

"-Magical damage

-Negateable by manually casted arrow skills

-Affects TOWERS

-Physical damage"

lolllll

magic and physical :D
Alright, little editing things make it harder to read for me but still good.

S2

don't you think return should be gotten earlier? return is good if you are badly harassed by your foe like kardel or any other ranged hero...also as the game progresses the return's damage will lose it's usefulness....IMO only one lvl of souble edge shoud be gotten early since you don't have that much life..just use it to last hit or deny yourself...

I disagree on level up Double Edge on early game since that time your hp and mana can't affort to support it. Althought it may seems owesome if u can dealth 400 damages to your opponent but u also lost 400 hp so if they have another backdoor ganking then u are toasted. By the way, why always appear?

Sorry about the last sentences ''Why always appear?''..... Technical problem..Just ignore it....

@angelic tutpikz
A better way to stop them from harassing is to have a lane partner to disable the hero while you walk over and stomp + edge the hero. A Centaur should never solo, return is only useful for farming.

@Guide
I believe blink should be rushed ASAP as a first item. HP items can wait for centaur since he has fortitude to take care of that. If your team has no other initiating stuns blink is a must. Dagger 's purpose remains almost unchanged for Centaur even with the nerf.

great strat but forget diffusial blade and manta plz,it is worthless to centuar in my opinnion .9/10 keep up the good work

Very nice guide, a lot of reading as usual :>. I was a bit disappointed though, I wanted / was expecting a dps guide :(

@~fwii
will do

@noobifier
lol will change that soon

10/10 No Comment.

P.S. 4 By drew 2008-06-02

Congrats CFX!
5 By Counter_Force[X] 2008-06-02

@thanks
and give the shirt to drfiterz

XD.

i really think you coverd just about all of the facts u need to cover.....nice screenies and the youtube things.....nice guide 10/10......i was reading this for 40 minutes because i got interested.....really cool...

nice job....and i praise you that u endured typing all that....

didn't you get lazy....

aniweiz good guide.....nuff said...

CWAL for the Top 2.

i really think you coverd just about all of the facts u need to cover.....nice screenies and the youtube things.....nice guide 10/10......i was reading this for 40 minutes because i got interested.....really cool...

nice job....and i praise you that u endured typing all that....

didn't you get lazy....

aniweiz good guide.....nuff said...

thats lot of stuff but nicely done

nicely done
good guide
although there is one thing i disagree on
shouldn't return be taken early
since early game it packs more of a punch unlike mid-late game it's not as effective since usually your opponents hp are already high(or getting high)
but overall it's really a good guide

centaur with manta stlye is CRAZY!!!!!! great guide 10/10

return is only useful for jungling

lets say you take return early ,youre gonna lack finishing power as well as the ability to suicide

the impression to a hero that can suicide is really good. it pretty much draws away the attention of focus firer from you. less disable, better stun

@drifterz
xD

reasonable item build and this totally change my thoughts towards centaur warchief. He seriously owns man.

that depends

and the replays suckass

i was laggin badly
new one cooking
im working on it

btw in counters dont forget enchantress and harbringer.

WITHOUT teh fact that they eat your armor like butter they could still probably kill you through mass disabling.

way to go and take stevos spot as top guidemaker!

^_^
will work on that
thanks

Awesome guide CFX! Yeah! at last, a real good guide to centaur! Oh men! thisis AWESOME!

what a nice guild,i love the jungling guild,it may help me more^^but one thing y no blink dagger??just find a low hp enemy that naughty,no wan to go home,and blink to him,then stomp plus double edge ang GG

9/10 to you,y dony give u 10?that because evebody need to improve himself,if 10/10 that mean no need improve lolz

The longest guide in history finally showed up at 3rd hehe. As one of the judges, I don't enjoy watching a 4-hour movie. Same applies to your guide sorry. . Readers will just scroll it down to comments and I guess they only read your introduction and then the conclussion hehe.. kidding.
Anyhow, your effort is appreciated and CONGRATULATIONS CFX for winning the DS T-Shirt. You're already a VIP too bad lolz! I wonder who the winner is?? haha! 9/10

weeeeeeee good guide evn tho it's long, it's good!!! just like what my cousin taught me but I didn't listen to him coz he's a noob...why didn't you remove the branches??? is it decor for bradwarden or is he in grass right now??

there is no reason to sell the ranches with that build as we get no bracers, and have enough slots to support them

@mv20vm
i guess thats the reason why this one didnt get as much score ;(

another job well done CF[X].

thanks

some info are twisted, like the return ones

pardon that

return is physical

geeeez

Long guide just like the other
congratz on 3rd place
(can I get that shirt. Lol)

nope
T-Shirt claimed by someone else

@Ghost
of course!
logic>all

I think no1 here knws how 2 play DouTA!
2 Iron helms and 4 boots 4 his feet is all he need.

@for real

Good guide man! I never really found this hero that interesting...i have to try him out....dota!

wow, a really long guide, but well worth reading, so it definitely deserves a high place.. congrats on making it to the top three!
only one question now.. how the hell did TWO people make an even better one??? =)

@dark123

uhhm, common sense. brad only have 1 head so 1 iron helm and 4 boots haha! I like that joke!

nc strat!

thanks again

1 head rules

@CFX: Really???? XD

yup

Now this is how I like a guide xD
Great job, nearly how I play Centaur (except no bottle, hate the thing, nevermind), and I dunno, you pretty much explaing EVERYTHING in detail...
Great job... Not much to say, everything's great xD

Oh and, the one thing I noticed, in Return, you put in the "description" Magical Damage, negateable by orbs, towers, and Physical Damage... Magical and physical? I got confused there, but you explain later it's reduced by armor lol Other than that, I dunno
10/10

orb walking negates return damage

return damages towers

return is physical in damage

and thanks xD

CF[X] Ghost gets V.I.P. Right?? Haha. . .

according to orochi-kun i cant do so

too bad
but yes i was thinking of giving it to either him or amp

Battlefury still suites centaur!!!

for that price?
i'll dump it for a branch
get real

excellent guide!

thanks

nice guide! i laughed when you guessed you would get 3rd awhile back in one of the forums.

anyways, good job and i must say, reading this thing took FOREVER!!!!

but it was worth it

10/10

karma and feng shui sucks

thanks ^_^

I want to ask you abotu your opinion with battelfury on juggernaut

@Guide
BKB
is not good for centaur ,ur role is to accept the damage and nukes.

Butterly(For me)
one of the best item for Centaur.try it
Toughness w/ evasion is good and the return still works even the attack of the enemies are miss.

Bottle , Dagger ,stout , Helm, Tp,Boots
Rush on Dagger!!! first.
Overall the guide is good and intellectual. 9/10

exelent guide mate.
can u do 1 on skele king nxt?
i jst wana c how other ppl use hm cos nearly all of mi friends that play dota(about 15-20...)
use him the same way i use him.

can u do 1 on skele king plz??

BF on jugg is good for pushing

it's just not worth it as a core

BKB is choice late game

take the damage too much isnt an option also

butterfly is dum as core defense item, doesnt help

another outstanding guide from counter_force[X].... why not try making a mortred guide

i dont like farming hero
i prefer getting in action faster
the only reason i like tb is because of the sunder and soul steal

@fwii~

Actually, with lifesteal, your return actually kills low hp heroes such as magina or vengy faster than they attacking you. So long as you've a vanguard, they'll stop attacking you.

return sucks early

the value of return being a good asset early is about 0

basically, you take return do deal damage to DPSers. but DPSers farm early, hence a theory why it's not good as an early game skill

another reason is, return needs agro, like how axe abuses his helix

if you mass stouts, you're gonna lack in mana and will do real bad. axe on the other hand only needs some stats. stun also stop enemies from attacking, hence return is inapplicable .

please make a mortred strategy T_T

i dont have the leet farm skills anymore to make one

and shim got a SK guide on the other hand

next guide is on tiny, just needs some bunchload of pics and replays

What he said --^ leave Leo to me.

... now that I look properly, that Return info is dodgy lol. And I don't know what the real info is anymore...

RETURN IS PHYSICAL

mm yes but people will ignore that..
i get level 1 stomp then max double edge and get return because return is sexy early game.

and yes logic>all
and my logic>logic

as teh logic master explained

all is true

yes 1 level of stomp suffice sometimes, but you never know when you're gonna need it

Excellent strategy, dude! Only one thing... Doesn't the ult add a total of 72 STR? I mean 12 + 24 + 36 = 72 ; It would be pretty crap if it adds the same amount of STR at all lvls (12 + 12 + 12 = 36 total STR)

lolololol the guide is so long my eyes spoil

I think +72 strength is a bit much dont u think. :p It is really +36 strength at lvl 3 ulti.

That isn't much for an Ulti
Yeah its 72 in total

boo 1/10 too long for noobs to read and understand

xD hillarious guide but pretty true 10/10

lol laughed so hard about the retarded HELM build yep retards plain and simple


IMO 5v5 and in a dual lane centaur does have a hughe advantage with a stun nuke hmmm imma gonna try this build i want to be convinced why should i get edge instead of return in early despite what you said..... ^o^ sorry im not an avid centaur player xD

@Artimon

Atleast say something good!
I understand your point that this guide isn't that noob-friendly like what you expect but 1/10 isn't fair for the author.

Vanguard on brad is horrible. He alrdy has tanking capabilities and hp regen so there is no need for it. Hood depends on the situation. Radiance is okay. I find that brad is meant to be a tank but if you add a little DPS to him, he is UNSTOPPABLE. What do I mean? >> Threads, SnY, Satanic, buriza, heart, assault cuirass= THE MAN. SnY with satanic is done deal, he doesn't need a slow anyways, hes got a stun along with over 410 movement speed. I don't know why SO MANY PEOPLE underestimate SnY.

Are u sure about that mv20vm?

I still think it only gives +36 strength in total.

my beef is your beef w/ battle fury. ok, radience does more damage, but one of bradwardens weaknesses is his mana pool. this adds regen, both health and mana. in my opinion radiance is a terrible item period. 35 damage a sec? *scoff* w/e..

oh and radience does what a whole 5 damage more? ... i dont see why ANYONE would get radience for ANY hero. if you want damage go mkb.

ok
it looks like a good guide but y branches late game?
couldnt u get other stat boosting items?

wow a little too long (especially with all the other links)

divine rapier early game is pretty 1337 with any hero (yes I read the entire thing)

why you hating on clinx? why? (i know he rapes late game, you just overemphasize this like crazy)

great explanation and skill/item build, much better then the way I play centaur

deserves much more than a 10, sorry I can't rate that high though :(

ran out of characters so continued

a few things though
you didn't mention laning against ww heroes who if you don't kill while disabled (hard to do in 2.75 sec with BratWearThong) will just escape easily

not enough screen shots (imo) although the ones you do have show what they need to

awesome job

DPS cent is only what i go for -em and games with sucky team

@artimon
so does that mean youre a noob? so 1/10 is okay then

@folechno

there is a note about what i mean with bone at the DPS hero sections

thanks for the support

why don't people understand roles... you want the team to have a tank (centaur is very proficient here), a disabler/caster (lion, bane, rhasta much?), a dps (lol clinkz? with recent HoM buffs YES), a chaser (bloodseeker..sometimes) and a carry (troll/meepo/void/mortred)..

it makes for a perfect team that works throughout the game

when centaur needs to DPS, your team is in trouble.

logic says i win this fight about DPS centaur.

your is * * * * hehe

having re-read the guide i have decided that all complaints about its length are completely baseless.

if you are looking for the best skill or item build, all you need to do is read the first 3 sections (skills, skill build, item build)

if you plan on learning anything, read the rest of the guide and for gods sake DO NOT try reading this while playing an actual game, read it then pick or remember the basics for when you random.

for the most part he is justifying why you don't do things. cont>

accept it as gospel truth and everything will go just swimmingly..

don't rate down for length, rate higher for the EFFORT he put in that you DID NOT, hell if you flame the guide and you read it to learn...you really are in no position to complain

see that cf[x]?
i did the thing where i do the stuff with the awesome and go pow pow

logic is just 4 ranks below God

okay this is mah last day here before my 6 month disappearance

after this some people who appreciates me will take care of stuffs here, and im pointing at the logic master and his ally there

see you people in december

I will be watching this and the other guide for CF[X] while hes gone, so nobody try anything...

We will miss you CF[X]!

Nice strat! youve covered more than everything...but its long lols

great guide

yep me and shim have stuff covered ^.^

will be a little boring without you though...

have a fun 6 months study...
if study could be fun
sigh....

yea blink dagger =]

yea blink dagger =]

o.O nice guild lol u should lik this to ur signature in the forums to promote this guild nice 1. Love the whole youtube thing as i dun lik using the links. Also i lik the choose ur own tank items love that bit all in all the best. Pls add mroe screenies coz u only have some for 1 thing but not for the others. This let it down but all in all still pretty good 1 nice job. XD.

Excellent guide man! I learned all I needed to know about Bradwarden from this guide! 9.9/10

U totally missed out the jungling part of him aside from that little video. And the items aren't fixed, depends on the game, u don't oways buy vanguard, and HoD > bkb for centaur. He's a tank and carry, support to a certain extent, his killing extent is powerful and u have totally missed that out, watch draft matches played by MYM and VP, and i think they wud be a good addition to ur guide. 6/10

@ nwa = OK. More screenies. Screenies of his ultimate sound good? No, theres no need.

I have read the whole guide, do I have a life?

DPS centaur with threads sny heart satanic ac buriza can carry and tank. To hwll with the roles you guys come out with, if it works then it is good. Try those items on cen and unless your enemy has perma bashers or many disables, you cant be stopped. You have massive dmg, 700 crits, 5000 hp, 30 armor....This build is better for tanking then cfx's original. Shouldn't get those cheap items on centaur.

@above

good luck farming all that with Centaur

Eh nobody told me CFX was going.... Oh noes..where to?

nice strat

Nice Strat 10/10
Congrats for being third place winner

sigh i hate idiots (not mentioning names)

anyway cf[x] has gone to earn his freedom by getting some good grades.

great guide
awesome pros and cons fr each item build
but im not sure about one thing
i think battlefury cleaving attck works against nearby invisible heroes
coz i killed riki maru with sven(3rd skill cleave) Do all cleave attacks work the same?

yes they do but now fury is a failworthy idea.

Just almost exactly how i play centaur warchief.

CFX is gonna go for a long time? oh no

THIS IS A NOOB BUILD. DON'T EXPECT THAT YOU WILL GET RADIANCE IN MID-LATE GAME. YOU SHOULD FIRST SURVIVE THE EARLY-MID GAME PART. BUY 2 VANGUARDS AND/OR HOOD OF DEFIANCE IF NEEDED. YOU MAY NOT NEED RADIANCE ANYMORE. CENTAUR SHOULD BE MIGHTY AS HE CAN BE. HE MUST RESIST ANY KIND OF ATTACKE. FYI

y not use 4 helms ? +20 armor.. then make travel, radiance,hot

9.89/10

radiance,travel,shivas = GG?? or vanguard is a need?

vanguard is not needed.

@posts above that..
there was this thing i said about idiots...

Bedaboy, do you really think posting idiotically in caps lock makes you cool? Because it doesn't.
As usual, where's your guide? Besides, if all you do is get tank-without-damage items, they just don't attack you and you do squat to them...

here for 10 mins since i done writing all those bio stuff's

i dont get it to people who cant read
i did left soooo many things bout vanguard there:

-preference item
-dont get against nuker
-dont get if you rush rad
-dont get if you think late game is near

now i wanna read that new alc guide

nice strat. good point in mentioning not focusing on high damage items but tank items instead. 10/10.

damn school, me and shim will be largely gone for the next 2 weeks, CF[x] till December, orochi is assassinating a clever virus isn't being very active.. and another reason which i have forgotten... then yeah lots or people missing, anyway on behalf of CF[x], thank you for positive feedback and keep rating and viewing, i (ghost) want 2 of his guides in the top 5

^_^

11/10

Holy crap, that was a hell of a guide, and so fuc*** LONG!

Simply nice, gratz for 3rd place dude ;)

this probably one the worst guides I've ever see. I'm completely shocked that someone put in so much effort in making trash.

Agreeing with Warstomp...
pretty useless guide imo
All cen needs is hots and armor, in a game with 2+ melees buy blade mails asap for mass "i stand around and you die" ownage :)

Your posts are useless. Make your own guides? We are so scared of your mighty strategies...
I shouldn't respond to posts that are trash in themselves.

nice guide
a bit to long
like it
10/10

pffft. your item build is very solid but you should reconsider your thoughts on return, a lot of teams nowadays prefer a solo centaur or one in the jungle for quick lvling, and in these cases they always get return. A plus side is a much faster radiance. Blink for me is a must.Additionally one of the main reasons why i would have necrolyte as a counter is because he is a potential book3 user which hurts you through manaburn (no initiate)

Here's a dumb question but i really want to know the answer to this:
Why do you not creep block if you are in sentinel bottom lane or scourge top lane?
Btw nice guide i learnt a number of things from this

ok i'll answer that one, in no em your base damage isn't high enough to reasonably last hit the tower if it starts attacking creeps at lvl 1, so you generally want your creeps to clash just outside tower range. and sent bottom and scourge top are "short" lanes

10/10
congratjulations on 3rd place

Most of ur reasons why BF isnt good is just a comparison between BF and Radiance, and some reason applies for both.

Like this 1 here:
-Bottle is insanely popular on melee heroes that lacks regen and it costs less

Sometimes, with BF, heroes can survive without returning for over 20 min, because the regen is constant, bottle cant.

Also, bottle dont gives damage at all, BF gives 65, theres no reasons bottle should be more expensive then BF rite?

Radiance doesnt even give any regen.

i still prefer using dagger even with the silly nerf. it's good for positiong stomp and initiating a clash. in serious games, i usualaly go boots definace(serious games usually have at least 3 skilll based heroes) and then dagger. he's plain useless without dagger in serious games because he has to walk.

PERFECT

-bottle can give double damage, make you invisible, heal you from 1% to %100 in 20 seconds, give you make movespeed.

-the regen from battlefury is wasted if you are on full life.

-Bottle+Crow costs less than battlefury and provides better survivability.

-radiance gives better overall DPS than battlefury.

once you get past the typos my arguement stands.

@sfsy1

then just get BF, i and MYM dont mean anything

@klwk

creep blocking sent bottom means you're getting the creeps of scourge top to your towers faster, they will get raped, you'll get nothing, and 20 secs later youre gonna fight at THEIR tower

enough reasonings i believe

thanks to Ghost and Shimrra for backing things up

studying is hell

thx
nice strat 9/10

i agree with your items but i TOTALLY disagree with your skill build

this is big guide. too many to read. goodness.

Skill Build is WTF???? why would u get double edge when u have absoloutely NO LIFE.... and not get asasp Return where it RULES early game and u can own with range against u.. also i didnt see dagger as one of the item build... :S dagger on centaur means no ganking with his uber stun and cant be used as tank as well :S maybe it will work.. i respect different builds.. but personaly i think u should play centaur again and rethink ur strategy..!

Very well done, best if you could cut and summarize, and there will left the essence

i reeally like this strat you make the boring centaur fun! and your comments are funny which makes this ridiculously long strat to read fun!
Just 1 thing concerning your BF arguments...you said it costs nearly 5k? duude it costs 3350gold! radiance costs nearly 5k! BUT yes i agree with you and it makes snse, i push too hard with bfury and it never really occured to me thats a disadvantage! but bfury is great on cntaur +60 damage for 3.35k along with regen really helps! 10/10 good luck with exams

:)>-
cool man peace thanx!!

this strat is so fucking noob!!!!!! You shitface...this is so ineffectiv!!!!

aww why did you change the skill build? T_T

hahahahahahaaahahahahahahahah rambo is my favourite word when playing dota

User supremewiz has been banned.

Nice

cheers to shim

ill give you a peek to teh tiny guide when i can remember me YIM pw again

biggest joke guide
i feel sorry for a guy who spent his time reading this crap

Meh warning. You have a guide? No. Didn't think so. Try harder.

@159 panickiller

i Doubt u even thinked or read the guide.

Firstly, Dagger is mentioned

2ndly, Getting Double Edge when ur own life is less means ur enemies' life is even less(for most heroes)
And since CW is a ganker. theres no harm sacrificing 300 HP for damage.

10/10 that's all i can say . .

dude try to make some guide for heroes that are COMPLICATED to use . .

talking bout' ezalor, rigwarl and others .. bravo dude c u in Garena . . .

some guys do the 3 to 5 Helm of Iron Will and Boots of Speed build because it is a way to tank towers... with +25 armor and regeneration, centaur can really tank the tower even though he is alone...

nice guide,
over all 10/10

i guess BKB And blink dagger is very important for this monster BLINK + Stun + double edge = massive damage

NUTSSSS!!!!!!!!! BUT I LIKE IT!!!!!!!

we dont play to tank towers

thanks to others for the praise

massive html typos, pardon that

Even do its in 3rd place, this is one of the best bradwarden strategy i ever seen and used. Really shows defense is a great offense

YOU GO GIRL!!
i dun like centaur that much BTW!!

totally disagree with skill buikld

Hmmm...decent guide. Didn't read all of it, but got most of the gist.

Recommend instead of Vanguard, just get 2 stouts to save 1400 for Radiance rush. Almost every game you play, HoD should be essential. If it isn't, your team will win anyway, because their team is full of shitty early-game carry heroes which you can get a phat 20-0 if your team has any sort of ganking ability.

continued

2nd recommendation -

Centaur is an amazing late game hero if you get radiance soon enough. Centaur CAN chase - Radiance will grab you the kill.

Centaur with ASSAULT becomes an insane, maniacal kill-all that cannot be stopped by normal means. Even perma-bash heroes will have trouble with your +20 armor advantage (15 on you, -5 on them). If you can get your stun in, 3-4 seconds is all you need to reduce even carry heroes to nothing.

omg this guide isn't good at all, I mean what a load of crap. centaurs hardcore item is dagger, focus on that. bot,dagger, radiance, heart. thats what he needs

and the skill build is a fucking joke, i mean why skill double edge before hoof stomp when in low lvl u also got low hp.

Hmm thats my startegy double edge max and resturn first get vanguard asap then perservance then battle fury after battle furry go for treads after treads try to solo rosh or get someone to help ya after getting aegis get hyperstone ----> assault after assault heart and u have full inv after full inv buy a pet and dagon for him got dagon level 2 after 60 mins after 60 mins everyone can 1 hit pet so buy him life booster :P i had 17-3 at the end it was 3v3

yay good guide helped alot =)

my items on this guy is....

tarrasques
radiance
travel or treads
helm of iron will
dominator
cuirass

is there something wrong w/it??

my items on this guy is....

tarrasques
radiance
travel or treads
helm of iron will
dominator
cuirass

is there something wrong w/it??

i followed the items only. we won and the end game i got. boots, rad, vanguard, hood and had a robe of the magi, was going to make a manta. my score was 7-2-11...

so many ks and well was still fun

oh i meant, someone ks me. thats why was 11 assists.. lol

why vanguard??why defience...EWWW!! youre strategy is not that good.. not good..

i prefer helm mass+bot+tarass.. NOT VANGUARD & DEFEINCE..EWW

I like your strategy, but the only thing is... Power Treads. Power treads is not for switching, it's for focusing on your main attribute. If you're str, then you get +10 str which is +190HP which worth almost as much as two bracers. You know, you get +35% atk speed, (butterfly gives 30%, excluding the agi) so getting a Power Treads is like getting a whole lot of your attack speed for that game as for farming and "killing". Attack speed is the key on getting last shots on heroes in pub game!

wow great beer ang sebo mo dia ang galing mo boy at hindi mo gwen blade mail dalwa fuck that boy it possible boy ang weird ng kalaban mo boy ang mga weak dapat pinapatay at dipinapabuo

wow...can any1 tell me which hero 2 counter centaur??? cuz i really dunno how 2 win against centaur...tq

what about blade mails? When going against heroes that love to crits, mortred, yurnero, rikimaru, or super melee dpsers. The blade mails increase ur chance to survive even if you are permabashed. Because they will be doing as much harm to themselves as they are to you. Especially if you get 1-2 blade mails. SA and his bfly would essentially kill himself from the blade mail attacks.