Viper! ^u^ The Common Sense Guide!

Woot 1st comment? or isit?

nice guide

7/10

not so good
i'll give it 6/10

Nice guide, lots of detail on a hero which is effective throughout the game, the guide focuses upon Viper's strengths but perhaps not enough on weaknesses. Overall a well written and informative guide, 9/10

It's a pretty good guide, but maybe you should add screenies. Item build is good, it needs more items though !
Nice call on the correct grammar.

very nice man!!!

why so low rates? compared to the only other one it is 10/10.i say 8/10 tho, just because it is kinda short and has no screenies. i love viper tho:). u didnt rly point out the fact that he has the best lane control, that if u orb an opponent it doesn't attract creeps, that kinda stuff. generally add some screenies and u ll b good

4rth post! did pretty well but i still have to disagree on getting frenzy last

Nice guide, detailed early game which is important. 9/10

6/10 mate ... cant over look that one part on viper... is this guide geared tword non em or em? most games on non em games end a lot earlier than the 20s and frenzy is very important to tear apart most heroes

if ur build isnt matched exactly doesnt mean u have to rate it so low. just a different style of play if u disagree, make ur own guide. i personally take corrosive skin at lvls 12-15, so what? dont rate it low just cuz u play differently, he said his reasons not to take it early

skadi is not an orb so wouldnt it stack

skadi is not an orb so wouldnt it stack

hey nice giude
i will gve it 7/10
good GRAMMAR

Lothar's is a must!^!!

Skadi is a buff-placer and it doesn't stack with Poison Attack which is another one.

Guide: the only skill you focus on in any reasonable detail is Poison Attack (yes you did lots on that and it is good). But you completely left out any info on how to actually gank people. "Rain terror on them" is not good enough. No Viper Strike tactics. No Frenzy tactics (although I agree with getting it last). Underplayed the advantages of Lothars, you can't possibly assume they won't see you coming.
5/10...

...5/10 UNLESS YOU EDIT THE BITS IN. This is doable and I think you are paying attention (unlike that other guy who never looked to find his guide was posted and people wanted updates) so hop to it...

good
8/10

nice guide 7.5/10. i prefer getitng corrosive skin after poison attack since it would really help in early and mid game

yeah nid screenis for viper it'll be 2 gud....nice strat..8/10 hehe

7/10.

"When you're trying out this important technique for the first time, you may find that it is helpful to turn Poison Attack onto Autocast so any stray attacks the Netherdrake throws while you're trying to figure it all out have the Poison effect." Not a good idea for racticing. It's better to get the hotkeys down rather than right click and draw creep attention.

"The Warcraft III AI has the intelligence of a small child who is stupid" Um, yes but humans (generally) don't play like that

I agree the strategies are common sense, so i think the Item Build and Skill build should be good...

I think corrosive skin is worth learning early. It helps at neutralling, and since nukes are effective early, getting it increases your survivability more than stats.

Also, Bottle is a VERY crucial item on vipwe. He has a really high mana consumption rate and no lifesteal/regen.

Final, Viper is a sort of a carry actully, definitely better than Sven...

Will rate it 6/10, so please update!

hey man! i liked the section on orb walking. very informative im gonna try master that coz i love Viper and after reading this guide i had better not DARE not know how to orb walk :) haha
although no screenies i say 8/10 GG!

hmmm 7/10

"rain terror on them" you could be a little more specific

radiance > Bruiza, the immolation will help more than the crit when you are orbwalking on a slowed hero

"It seems to be a tradition for people to list a bunch of heroes that make good allies. Me too, then! ^_^" not a tradition per se, but really helpful for less obvious synergies

good ally synergy, you with a carry, you slow while the carry dishes out the damage (a carry is better suited to deal damage than viper is)

you need to cover ganking a little better, and maybe list some good initiators

also, list some good allies for early game that would be okay to have as a lane partner (if you have to)

lothars edge is good because the enemy will see you and run, it allows you to get close enough to start orbwalking, yes blink dagger can do the same thing but Lothars also allows the less skilled players to escape and it gives stats as well

ok guide

id get corrosive skin early and id get a vanguard for protection but im a mkb user too

8/10 good job

Screen shots are nice, but there aren't any skills that you need to explain, you might want to add something about the range of orb walking (I think that it is slightly larger than the 600 range he has) and maybe have a screenshot of that

emphasize the need to gank enemy carry heroes so that they can't carry their team to victory

you might also want to address if Arcane Ring is a good or bad item and why (it's bad imo, a bottle is much better)

I don't think you should ever autocast.

nice guide.. but a ranged EoS isn't an orb effect item... anyways.. GJ. I'd give it a 7/10..

I dont knwo i just dislike people who think a skill is usless... like warlocks slow srry mate

-radiance is a tank item
-lothers is sometimes considered a core item no idea o-O
-

Also, you should add something about being aware of how much mana you have, especially in team fights since if you can't orb walk, then you can't clean up the stragglers

does he need any mana regen early/mid game?

BoT is much better for orb walking, emphasize that

if game goes superlate, what would a good final build be, what orb should you consider? if he should at all?

if you manually cast poison attack, it will override all other orbs except lifesteal, if you autocast, then all

you should get frenzy earlier than 22 since it will help in taking down towers and barracks, also it will help in team clashes since you aren't the tank who is being targeted so the extra damage doesn't matter (if you do get targeted then you can orb walk and won't get touched)

since he will spend the majority of mid game ganking, you should consider a bottle after boots before MKB so he can refill mana/hp without going to the fountain (and you chicken can do the shopping)

should add magina to the enemies list since he can use blink to get arounf your orbwalking and has mana burn so you can't orbwalk at all, also Ezalor is bad for you mana and so is NA

diregard my earlier comment about the 600 rnage, I know it's 575

nice guide, covers a bunch of topics and is compact, break apart some of the paragraphs though, add in the recommendations, maybe a replay or 2
currently a 7/10

you mention using wards, link to Caspian's warding guide or get some screenshots of good locations you might use

Also Oblivion is pretty bad for you. I learned this while playing Drow - Nether Ward activates on attacks such as Cold Arrow and Viper's poison. So every time you attack while in the range of Nether Ward, you're taking a nuke. Also, it's bad for your mana regen. I don't know if this has the same effect on auto-attacking with poison, but I don't really care anyways.

nice

@folechno

agreeing on most of the stuff u mentioned, i feel that BoT actually has nth to do with Orb Walking. Instead, its good for chasing when combined with orb walking. Because any hero, as long as he can move, can orb walk good if skillful.

Im sorry but much work is needed. Lots of the text is just ranting about items you should have and ursa. And truthfully... you cant play an effective viper without lots of farming. He is NOT a ganker. Rather a killer in need of items.

The early game section focuses on lanes, and ursa...? However i like the orbwalking guide.

How about adding an orb walking video? Include a section justifying the item and skill build.

You put "Scary heroes" So why not put some pics of Easy Prey???
Cont.

Power treads absolutely fail, Make sure you get BoT.

If you insist on playing a ganker viper, then you better add GIF's/Videos/replays.

Add in vanguard and lothars as an option item and people wont get mad at your build as much. Do it and more members will rate it higher.

You say lothars isn't that good.
20 agility and a total of 41 damage and 3 armor isn't worth it alone?

The windwalk is amazing for when you're being hunted and can initiate ganks if needed to.

Cont.

Mid game focuses on the items you get...
And you talk for 2 paragraphs about wwhat order to get mkb recipe. Then you proceed to talk about flasks of sapphire water?!
The ganking strategy should be completely redone. MAke it short and simple with pictures, GIFS, and videos.

LAte game needs more text.You include a little bit about how you suck in team fights and then talk about good and bad allies, good and bad items. Cmon.

I hate your build. But thats your choice. No need to change that.

Just add in linkens, vanguard, and lothars to optional items and i will be satisfied.

I dont think this teaches much about viper. Sorry man. I dont feel the common sense. Or maybe you expect too much of your readers.

for now... 4/10 Edit it within 3 days and i wont rate it a 4

thanks for the "orbwalking" tip

It's like an incomplete guide we want visualaid!! we want screenies! at late game auto attacking with frenzy is acceptable esspecially if u have a nice item eg bkb mkb butterfly bot etc. It will deal more dps than orbwalking in "lategame".

corrosive skin 12-15
items
BoT is MUST HAVE ITEM!!!
u talk so much about orb walking but u put PT..

Build:
HoT
Radiance
Bfly/mkb/linken

Read what Shimrra_3 said, what folechno said, what sfsy1 said, what coco616 said, and what i say:

this guide has potential to be better. it's not a bad guide but until you edit in what the afore mentioned people gave advice about, this guide will just be a mediocre guide.

6.5/10 for now until you edit, which can make my rating go to 10/10 :)

This guy is inactive. This guide will end up like the trax guide

ok,
THIS is my type of guild,
3 items,
pretty Good skill build,
And an in depth talk about why and how he can do things.


AND IM GOING TO WRITE THIS FOR ALL YOU MORONS, VIPER IS NOT A HERO THAT REQUIRES SCREEN SHOTS ON ANYTING, IF YOU DONT GET HIS GUIDE BY READING IT... Then i feel real empathy for you.

but i have my problems with it

i love this guide!

much better than 'the power of poiosn'

gosh.. its simple, easy item build, you gave clear advice ect.

its a simple but nice guide =]

8/10

Not bad . .

Not too good . .

but Not bad at all . .

meh like . .

but more info would make it better . .

like his role in big clashes . .

yours is generally for 1v1 game . .

i don't agree with your guide, if your facing nukers early game you should invest in skin and hood, no reason why it should be skipped for stats, ideal viper build is all about slow, vangaurd/skin/miss(butterfly) should be core items/skills

Going to have to go with a 6/10. It's detailed, yes, but many of the facts are inaccurate. I also disagree with the builds. Poison Attack and stats are up until level 7, getting Viper Strike at level 6. After that Corrosive Skin is a must and then Frenzy is maxed last. Treads are a must and Vanguard is also good.

SnY is also a perfect item for Viper. The maim does stack with Poison Attack and either way, you get stat boosts and your enemy is slowed for eternity.

Also, have you read Viper's abilities? Nukers are not a threat to Viper. 20% magic reduction. Also, I believe Poison Attack has a range of 600 while normal attacks have 575. By the time casters walk up and nuke you, you'll have landed at least 3-5 Poison Attacks and scare them off. Casters are squishy and easy prey in early game.

Buriza isnt really an optional item, its an item that you'd defindately get. I think you've misunderstood that. If you only get an MKB and Bfly in a proper game then something has gone seriously wrong. Most likely you getting pwned a lot. MKB can be rushed in about 20 mins without getting any hero kills. With hero kills will be even easier. Also I dont see why you're leaving Corrosive Skin to the end. You havent provided a reason, other than "Viper is good so the enemies wont be attacking you"

Also I disagree with getting Heart, or BKB. There is no need. If you're farmed enough to get those after you already have Bfly, MKB, Buriza, Treads and Lothars then I realy dont think the enemies are going to be hurting you. I'm giving it a 5/10 for the moment as it seems a bit lacking in information and reason

Very deatailed.

a quite simple but to the point... 8/10

nice!!

get corrosive skin early to save viper's ass... viper's rly weak early

concise, but rather too simple by itself

getting stats above skin will require reason, people dont understand why. thay say 20% magic reduction is pawnzord, but they dont realise with stats, you get 40 hp, 2 damage, 2% aspd and mana to spam your breath

MKB>Buriza as first DPS item. i am glad to show you the calculations of why in case thay're trying to act smart like a dumbass

SnY dont work with breath, whos the faggot that says so?

i am goinf to say this at least, it's worth reading

lothars is actually un-neccessary if you can farm MKB reasonably fast

and whoever says that with PT+BUtter+MKB+Buriza, viper wont be aimed, he is actually being stupid

i agree with BKB, HoT is perhaps another story, linken does better

7/10

sorry dude but ill give 7/10 i dont realy like your item build . put some more screenies

Man, this guide kinda too brief I mean the people who ever tried to use viper will know everything what you tell us about. It's good though, but nothing special that I expected like in another which makes you want to try the new way how you use the hero.

Sorry dude, Ionly give ypu 5/10

Man, this guide kinda too brief I mean the people who ever tried to use viper will know everything what you tell us about. It's good though, but nothing special that I expected like in another which makes you want to try the new way how you use the hero.

Sorry dude, I only give you 5/10

Great guide! Can hardly tell this is your first.

9/10

not so good

lol at dohyun's comment. what more can i say.

@ Boots-chan

this is your first guide so i'll consider your work as good. orb-walking, ganking ...nice and useful guides.

you need to be active please, hear what the readers said and respond appropiately. like the previous published guides, i'm not gonna rate your work yet.

um correction there's nothing wrong in getting lothars for viper for it is an effective item for surprise attacks and escaping. Viper doesn't have the escape mechanism and lothars is the only thing thats gud for this hero. Plus the the plus agi isn't really that bad. Just an opinion

4/10. so-so

pretty great guide i hav the exact same items as yours whenever i play viper. very informative and specific on viper 9/10

"This guy is inactive. This guide will end up like the trax guide"

Beginning to agree...

In welcoming members, we should really emphasize the "stay active" part. Or mods should PM the guide maker to know if he's active.

Read what dohyun said.

roflmania......i dun really use vipr much

hshsh

hey man..an ursa witha KD is another story...theres no chance for attack and then backward..haha

... frenzy dude
frenzy is core of viper can rape rly need frenzy

lothar's edge is good for viper cause he doesn't have a escape skill

In dota, one mistake of a hero, is a kill for another hero...am i right? well for me viper is not that strong, and beside harassing works only on noobs, viper is easy to beat in mid game and late games, unless if you can obtain (the butterfly or MKB, treads, sange and yasha...after15-20mins only, just like my bro does in almost all winning games we have played...can u belive it!!?

no full item build?

for all who say 'zomg frenzy pwnz u n00b!'-stfu, noob. sny doesnt stack with poison attack. franz, i dont think u have played any winning games with that build... it is also unrealistic to farm all that in 15 mins, get me a replay, oh dota god... if harrassing only works on noobs, it means u r doing somethin rong(being a noob). im fed up with ppl postin stupid comments, thinking they r the best, it rly annoys me. dunno y i m protectin this guide so much, but i lik viper. dont post w/o reasons!

mate, if u are gonna orbwalk, u need ms, so try get 2 or 3 wraith bands and then boots for travalle, NO power treads is u play a orbwalking hero coz when u orb walk attack speed doesnt matter, after boots of travalle u can get mkb (and then butterfly)

nice guild, but i usually get the corrosive skin w/poison attack, it will counter some nukers, because of the magic reduction, and it will irritate your enemy not to attack you, survival in the early game,i disagree on the other comments, why would you need screenies(it is only viper, not some hero with aim-it-yourself skills). if your not good in orbwalking a lothar's edge will be good.but still a good guide, makes me go back to my old fave hero, viper.tnx, 8/10 pls. be more detail in early gme

erm.. didn't like it... but still good for newbies

noob guide
you should get the corrosive skin because it makes you more a ganker than a attacker, then get vanguard. thats all you need to be a good ganker

if i will rate it will be

3/10 for the effort

i kinda agree with getting stats first, but only on early game. corrosive skin's magic reduction is really helpful mid game, when you're soft and their nukes are starting to hurt. agree about getting frenzy last... but... no screenies, simple item build, and few tips on ganking itself. cont.

... you focused too much on orb walking and less ganking & viper strike... if you ALREADY mentioned viper strike, and i didnt see it, its because you're guide's pretty much a wall of text... make it simple like everyone says... giving you a 5... wait.... 4 for effor... wait... 3 because you're inactive.

Just a clarification - poison attack slows by 40%. So the enemy only has 60% movespeed.

Let's say it's balanar at night. 40% of 522 is 208.8. 522-208.8= 313.2. With just boots your movespeed is 350. If you get treads your ms will be 365 which should be enough to orbwalk. If he slows you, that's why you have viper strike.

An extra 25 ms won't help much - BoT is for teleportation not orbwalking.

Besides, most heroes don't have 522 ms so orbwalking shouldn't be a problem with just boots.

You leave Frenzy behing...7/10...no screens...6/10...i don't even whant to read it...

@ Butt Man

I hate people like you REALLY you probably didnt even read the guide! You just check the itembuild and thats that.

Dont even bother to post here if you are to lazy to read the guide and see the real itembuilt!

Now for the guide, Frenzy is way to late, it already has its uses in mid games by ganking. Corrosive skin early is comparable with stats but that is just opinion. Teach us also to gank properly with his ulti wich is in my eyes still the most important spell. Be activ!

Add more to the good allies section.

Add more bad enemies of Viper.

like pudge or something

Let SnY be a potential item to use because it has increased Hp, Attack speed, Movement Speed, and Armor.

If your suggesting use of runes suggest bottle in my opinion.

Let Frenzy be learned earlier because of what bash said.

Other then that its a decent guide.

I'm not saying that you should change your guide or anything I'm just suggesting some potential things you can change.

6/10

Same skill build, but not the item build. , 8.3 of 10. , ;)

viper is my best hero that i master n adore...to me the corrosive skin is an important move 4 viper... lets say ur lanin with a nuke or ur always gettin ganked...instead of lothars or stats corrosive skin helps u minimize the dmg taken + helps u escapin!! Id prefer 20% reduction speed n magic resistance than +8 to all attributes mid game.. n as 4 frenzy tht allows u 2 attk double efficient than normal helps u if allied heros r mass disablers or if u wanna finish off towers easily..think bout it

n as 4 da items..i prefer treads,vanguard,mkb by mid game...linkens dependin on enemies...lothars too

Hmm, SnY and Mjolnir are great items on Viper, His SLOW EFFECT and The Chainlightning chance RAPES and it is pure damage. It can also be casted on yourself so if people like ursa come along and slap you it shocks him back and gives you a chance for the kill.

thanks for teaching my how to play viper, thats what the guides really are for, not for showing you the exact itembuild or why you should get this or that, imo guides are for those that want to know how to play the hero and not how to go to the shop and buy items.

This guide is... alright I guess? It's a little bit short. But it'll do. Thing is, how exactly do you gank? And I prefer skin over stats. You wont really be needing stats. I like survivability over harrassment. Skin makes you almost as untouchable as enchantress..

The Ursa part is kinda....
it works if ur playin wit a noob ursa user.. but if they realized u harrassin him and all.. they would think bout dagger or lothars.. eva thought bout dat? other than that great guide 8/10

this guide dsnt necessary shw u hw 2 play viper...ure supposed 2 train on ur own...viper is easy 2 play if u knw orb walkin n hv common sense or shall i say experience

awesome 10/10 and a very good conclusion of item-build
i also like that you pointed out that viper is ganger not farmer
gj

Pub: Farm

Non-Pub: Farm + gank

People here don't seem to watch competitively and tend to overrate stuff. I don't wish to elaborate.

Need more screenies, and i think its quite a gud guide! i'll giv u 8/10, but if u add some screenies i'll definitely give u 10/10...

Yo! Great guide, though no sceenshots.
I like viper a hell of alot so IF you need any help getting screenshots, whisp me :)) (i said IF your gonna add them ))

like i said. sny does NOT stack with poison attack. DO NOT say stuff like zomg frenzy pwns or else u r just dumb. stats r much more important.
@whoever said it-orb effects do not stack! n mjollnir, sny, whateva!
@whoeva said this-how does corrosive skin and vanguard help u gank?! will u come up to them and make them attack u so they take the damage from corrosive skin!? wtf?!

viper aint that good as u say:S rhasta pwn him easy 1on1

i dont agree with most of the things in your guide, but it is well done and i like that.

8/10

i go
Treads
Lothars
always!

the rest is up to my enemies :)

dont go stats at start.

corrosive skin is much better, for survival, ias.

//Nick

Har har. @zatra
omg. bkb > rhasta -.-
or any combo-hero.

Awsome Guide

4/10

COOL GUIDE DUDE I USED IT AND I WAS IMBAAA 10/10

Hmm. I detailed guide but frezy and corrosive skin last? I disagree. 5/10

it was really good and i learnt how to orb walk thnk you so much

hehe.. nice strategy!! hehe,, it helps me a lot!!

not so good.... i prefer taking corrosive... but all in all a good guide... thx ^^ 7/10

good but worng :D

This site is for noob and PUB-players
This build is awesome noobs

dulan la noob build -.-

no vanguard? eh early game vip life low ._.

anway this build is for starters.

6/10..not that detailed.

warlock is also a good lane ally. he can heal you if u get hit a lot. and has a high base damage and good range which can really hurt your opponents. damage plus slow. its really good, you should try it.

i recommend getting BoT quickly. viper is not a carry hero like some poeple think. he's a ganker. he needs to be able to tp all around the map to help in ganks not with treads to farm all game. viper should never be farming a lot and shouldnt get past a couple wraith bands, BoT and possibly a lothars or even bkb. dont listen to the idiots that think viper is supposed to carry.

@teacuptim
frenzy and corrosive skin SHOULD be last. viper needs STATS to make up for the low hp. you must play a pretty bad viper that feeds. im sure frenzy is gonna help you with that auto attack! and oh yeah you need corrosive skin because you want everyone to attack you right? while instead with stats you can have more hp = survivability and more mana to orb walk. learn to play viper.

Hmm...Viper is not that strong in late game you say? I find him very strong in late game due to great DPS and slow effects

Items are kinda individual for prefered playstyle. Since I love to have great MS, I usually go S&Y. The only thing I don't get benefit from, is the maim...unless I'm OOM. Also, Lothar's Edge might be good, but then again...it's about personal preference.

Frenzy not that useful? That's Viper's main DPS skill in late game! Like Razor! 6/10

This guild focuses more on orbwalking, so frenzy isnt that important IMO. Viper hardly uses frenzy due to constant orbwalking and teamplay (slowing the opponent). I agree stats over corrosive early if the first core item is hood. A battle usually lasts a few seconds so frenzy is practically useless, unless its a public game. Item build could be more precise, you forgot to add meka in the optionals. Meka is a great item, but isnt effective in public games.

lolwut, treads after mkb and no lothars?
Your gonna get raped hard w/ disables and have like no map mobility. Also... frenzy is gotten too late. You will need it around late game to boost your dps by alot. Also corrosive is gotten too late. Corrosive=20% dmg reduc against nukes which REALLY hurt against vipers low hp.

What was it I said? 5/10? Inattentiveness to guide = extra -2. Enjoy your 3/10. If you ever come back.

Hey, thx for the guide. Really useful in early. Got a double kill on NA and Ursa=p And i'm still a noob. lolz

Hey, thx for the guide. Really useful in early. Got a double kill on NA and Ursa=p And i'm still a noob. lolz

7/10

Nice one! But it'll be greater if you add some screenshots.

7/10

nice

@ FranZ123

WTF do you mean harrassing only works on noobs. Harrassing has nothing to do with who you're doing it to.

And I agree with Shim. This guy needs to show his face around here.

Complex guide for a simple hero.

I like it.

Glad SOMEBODY in the Mod Squad knows whats good and whats not.

^^^^^
Sarcasm

BTW maybe you could swap frenzy with stats. because ya know..frenzy is win?

10/10
very nice guide

dude, u must get the radiance on the first, and also u must do the poison attack, corrosive skin alternatively ea lvl, coz radiance stack on corrosive skin w/slow + viper strike will give u ownage, whats the point of having mkb on the first if u dont have a radiance? thats his ultimate item,

and his full items must be.

1. mkb
2. butterfly
3. radiance
4. boots of travel
5. decide
6. decide
coz if u have a radiance + mkb + boots of travel, no one can stop u anymore got it? ill give ya 8/10

^ so Radiance is his core item but you list it 3rd in the build?

and no radiance is not necessary because it will only make the chasing shorter, something that is useful but Viper looses to TP

that is why MKB is better, the ministun stops TP so noone can get away (well blinkers can)

who would win viper or death bringer?

^yeah off topic!!!!

ok..lah.....lol

orb walking is far harder then it sounds =/

i'm not sure if it's good...

I'm new with DOTA and i will do what you said. Thanks!

Hm...im not suck a big pro but i would say this guide lacks some details. However the tactics themsleves are outstanding. I tried this build and went beyond Godlike 2/3 time i played with viper after reading this strategy.

8/10 GJ man

too bad viper's 2nd is an orb effect now :/ i can't use SnY anymore. xD

weeeeee... this is my fav haro... but my build for this is....
early game..
tango, 1 wraith band.. nxt
vanguard butterfly then radiance...
mid game aegis then devine... hehe :D

anti for skillfull heroes... BKB... ü

lol at shimrta's -2

i luv this heroe // first heroes i got BEYOND with: my build
1. Lothars
2. MKB
3. Butterfly
4. Buriza
5. Treads or BoT
6. W/e u want Linkens maybe?

good guide. you also told about the orbwalking part which so many ppl doesn't know how to even do. excellent work. your items are great. that's exactly what you can farm up especially in ap.

U said viper not to farm,so i think the skill build should be poison atk,frenzy,poison attk,frenzy,poison attk,viper strike,poison attk,frenzy..to easily kill alone hero..but good guide..