Rylai Icegirl

New weekend, new strategy.

Nice! A new way of playing Rylai, I'll try it out some time. the item builds a bit weird though XD.

quite nice strat, but why lothars instead of BKB?

bkb gives her a small ehalth boost in which she needs.

Looks nice :). Maybe add NS as worst enemies?

You should put some emphasis on animation canceling (maybe I´ve missed it, though). Other than that, original way of playing Rylai and a well written guide. Good job :)

first strat, I think not (points to Kael)

"So at level 3 its 70 Damage* 3 seconds = 210 damage" you mean lvl 4

Rylai should never get boots as her first item, she needs hp regen and hp (gauntlets/circlets)

shrink some ss so they don't get distorted by the page size, you don't need all the extra stuff anyway

"(a bit lower resolution because larger isn't required" I can't decipher it so large is required

didn't cover over a name when you got a double kill

NICE ONE

Nice! A new way of playing Rylai, I'll try it out some time. the item builds a bit weird though XD.

"Do not do anything stupid and know when to run" lack of teamwork = Fail, screams pub, svs should swap you back in and save herself

radiance ROFL, NO

fix text so it doesn't go off the page

silence > refresher orb, you can use your spells again oh wait nevermind

spam click but wait???? indecisive???

okay now on to serious comments

you should cover more allies, especially at different parts of the game

briliance aura helps your teammates, can be useful

especially if you have allies with powerful spells but with low mana (I played a game as Luna and the aura helped me to harass with Crescent beams and for Eclipse mana, very helpful)

BKB > Lothars, it gives you HP, and is cheaper, Rylai doesn't need the dmg/agi from Lothars so 4k for WW alone is not worth it

Rylai is support, not as offensive as you describe her

Frost bite is moe support since it holds the hero still so another hero (like a dps hero) can kill them

Rylai should never solo, she does better with a lan partner and doesn't have the hp for it either

BoT for sure, I agree

Linken's Sphere > Lothars stats, regen, spell block (if they are targeting you that much then they are wasting spells since the other heroes aren't disabled), parts are useful early game

ulti is not good enough for Refresher unless you have allies, which you don't talk about very much

Guinsoo is good late game, as is Eul's

make ss a little clearly/DS guide size so we can read them better

put ss on their own line so the additional text doesn't shrink them at all

should definitely cover her attack animation and animation canceling since she attacks so f*cking slow

"Sorry if there are too many screenshots" blasphemy, not possible

I personally rush BKB rather than Aghanim's, becuase even if your ulti is more powerful, if you get disabled then it does nothing, also BKB gives you hp

Great Strategy Since this hero is NOT newb friendly you should include in the discussion a description of "The Right Time" to use her ulti in big team battle, patience is a virtue

nned to cover more allies, and for each part of the game

certain allies are better early game

certain allies work well with her ulti

certain heroes benefit from the mana regen

doesn't cover much that the other guides don't, ss are a bonus, but only a few are helpful (mainly positioning ones), needs some work, needs to explain some things better, correct some grammar

currently 6/10, with improvements it can be better

will hold off on rating till you improve it, otherwise 6

basically what folechno said and this guide could be a 10/10!

Congrats on your guide being published and continue working hard!

BKB is a must if there are any disablers on the other team. and match that up with a dagger and people will be WTFing all over the place.

just though of something else, meepo's nets (and I think Slithice's too) will stop your channeling, and they will go through BKB so they should be specifically mentioned as bad enemies

Does Lothar's and her ult do the same thing as Witch Doctor and his ult?

Hmmmm

Never get boots as first item, especially not on CM

Taking both your frost spells are better then simple frostbite and brilliance aura, nova helps a lot during early game to nuke, so a Sobi Mask (maybe RoB) does better.

No to lothars, agility goes to waste
BkB way better.

Also no to Radiance and Refresher
Orchid is way better or Guinsoo to take their spots.
Guinsoo also now gives survivability.

Also fix your lay-out

Also focus a little more on nova because u almost forgot you have that spell.

You said this is your first strat guide but you did invoker about a month ago. Second, terrible strategie. Your invoker was great this is awful. 2/10

The skill build...
You need frost nova to deal in situations on youre own,youre item build dose NOT permit that so frost nova earlyer is an must,i sugest that you leave the aura rank 2 unil you maxed frost nova and frostbite
The item build...
The items you use make you WAY to dependant on youre spells,refresh orb ads something to help but it takes time to make...especialy cose you have aga and travel first...and plus the mana cost of 2 ultis and an refrest exeeds the mana you have
continuing...

Lothar is an no,BKB an yes why?
1.BKB cost less
2.BKB makes you magic imune so you will not be hit by AoE spells
3.BKB gives you some much needed hp

The screens are realy nice and well done...
As for early game...well you need some bracers/nulls as rylai is an easy target and some extra stats are VERY good

Oh and you can give additional info on frost nova,it's AoE,potential max dmg etc
And on the ultimate,it's AoE,the time that one explosion occures etc

Boots first is bad, go with circlets/gaunts/branches. Consider advice on how to farm the items you are including, CM scores an F in farming ability.

You put rhasta as a good ally to CM, which is false. Rhasta and CM fulfill the same role, to disable (good allies are dps heroes like ursa/jugs/clinkz)

Radiance is a definate nono.

You don't include heroes she counters. Early game CM can own alot of heroes with nova+frostbite+field (eg non stunners :P).

Also, mana aura is for str hero allies.

Boots first is fail.Need bracers and RoR.

So i learned how to cast frostbite...
wow?

Include more on other skills.

get 1 level of aura first. Why put your best early game skill off til mid game? what were you smoking.

Add better items.

Refreshers is retarted. Who sticks around for 2 freezing fields. And you wouldnt be able to channel safely unless you had bkb (with lothars youd have to stop WW to refresh.)

And on that note... No lothars. Blink dagger or bkb plz.

cont.

Lothars is dumb. you pay for 20 agi and 21 damage which is NOT NEEDED. You just need good placement/Being able to channel good.

aganhims is good. However core item should be BKB.(maybe blink dagger too?

BoT is smart.

linkens is unnecessary if you insist on using lothars.

BKB is a better alternative as it blocks all spells not just 1. and gives similar STR amount.

Shivas is dumb. the arctic blast is beyond overrated. 200 damage. wooo. Why
not guinsoos?

Lothars is dumb. you pay for 20 agi and 21 damage which is NOT NEEDED. You just need good placement/Being able to channel good.

aganhims is good. However core item should be BKB.(maybe blink dagger too?

BoT is smart.

linkens is unnecessary if you insist on using lothars.

BKB is a better alternative as it blocks all spells not just 1. and gives similar STR amount.

Shivas is dumb. the arctic blast is beyond overrated. 200 damage. wooo. Why
not guinsoos?

and your worst enemy is pugna. Due to high manacosts. nether ward will rape you. der.

Please please please consider my change ideas.

For now...... 4/10. IF it isnt changed within 3 days it will be a 4/10

thats 2 guide for one month moon. you're so fortunate.

this is your style so i'm just gonna respect your skill and item build. i think your items are fine, but there are better.

you need to fix the format of your guide. uniformity is a factor for good impession:

all your screenshots with full view (excluding those cropped) must be same size. a little bigger too coz it's hard to see the small ones. you used 2 different fonts, just use one. you don't need to thank yourself. update?

ok build get some bracers. dude. a gg branch at least. boots never first plus u rather want the stats. u also never added the tem roll. need more screenies to show them. plus their all from THE SAME GAME! pls post a better build. lol thats why its 3 stats. also u never cut out the name. lol thats mean. XD.

this guide fails 7 out of 8 games

skipping nova early is the dumbest thing a CM could do

boots early is a divine fail

lothars is a joke, honestly

refresher is a joke, with that item, she'll surely get focus fired

"do not attack stunners, they will stop your ulti"
you have to be kidding me. are you telling me here that if you dont attack them, they wont cancel your ulti?

wheres the early game HP?
wheres the dagger so you wont have to run with uber MS to use all your skills?
cont

your item set is just too.....
unrealistic

this probably shows you're teaching people to farm with CM, which is bad as she should gank, even if shes destined to feed, as long as she does her job she's already being useful

now to my main item ramble

why dagger? it's nerfed yes

you cant afford to run
you cant afford to fail

dagger has always been the most crucial item on her,

wheres bottle?
with it, you wont need an early aura

im sorry, but in my opinions, this is just a fail

3/10

and i am not flaming

anyone think i am, get me 3 replays so i may judge the workability of this build

like folechno has said, add netting heroes to the worst enemies thing.

Meepo always f's me up when i play CM...ARGH!!!!

and several spells STILL go through BKB :( like Black Hole...that has got to be the greatest disable out there...cant be stopped...

Not the best strategy, but it's a good one. 7/10

Putting brilliance b4 nova is stupid. I'd rather have nova to finish or slow someone to save my life rather than to give a teammate a few extra mana. Also Radiance is really stupid on CM. So is refresher. Ulti lasts for a long time. If you didn't kill 1st ulti and their not stunned no more, than they will kill you before you use 2nd. My advice, skip radiance/ shiva/and refresher, Go for orchids. Much better choice. Other than that great guide on control. 6/10

omg i use the exact items and strat. Every body says noob is I mana aura and frostbite at begining, but they dint complain about having a free void stone (bril aura)

like the jack!%#@^ from above post

Ewww Being a CM fan all i can say is gay o.o
Seriously.. wtf?
Refresher?
Yeah im a smart CM i go in Ulti Refresh and ulti when no one is around
Seriously
When you use your ulti If they cant disable you they RUn
so start another ulti
Maybe the Ground might take damage =)
Lothars? Wards/gem -_-
Bink dagger ftw!! Bkb is a must unless they do not have a single Disable and they dont seem to make hex
Wow i have Brilliance aura i can spam 210 damage hax again and again instead of killing them at one go

Just bite no nova
210 210 210 they dead wow took me 30 secs
wait if i had nova i can kill in one go instead of nova and Regen uberfast mana with my aura >.>
Shiva's is a waste of money and i bet you wont farm it along with Aghims lothars refresher BoT
No bottle?
What about bracers
Rylai is made of Thin ice which shatter in a matter of secs
Radiance for Rylai? You can farm soo much
The+60damage is useless since your thin ice and with a Uberattackspeed
The30dps is even useless because of ms
3/10

uhm.. but disagree with the build.. no forstbite?? and y lothar's? shouldn't it be a BKB instead?

wrong type, y no "forstnova"?
hehehe

lothar is useless on her...the agi will be wasted and she doesnt rly nid the dmg boost. try gettin guinsoo instead as u wil b ganking with ur teammates alot. ur a support + disabler. and frost nova is good for harrasing early

alright guide but get something else bseides boots and lothars is a no-no

everything else is fine
7/10

kinda noobish
no bracers?:O
did you play with noobas?
and WHERE`S THE FROST NOVA??:o
how do you expect to get kills without it??
weak, very weak, I like the item build...but that`s just it..

*cringe*
There are so many things I can pick to rant about here, forgive me if I repeat something that's been said. Overall not looking good.
Lack of Frost Nova early.
Boots first instead of Bracer/Null parts.
Lack of Freezing Field tactics (the single hardest thing with CM IMO).

However, I'm going to say to everyone else: lay off the Lothars - it does actually work. Even if its seemingly not as effective, which is better against Troll + PA? BKB doesn't do anything against them...

But improve.

aura is only really for supportin. but in this she doesnt claim to be a support. ya cm is kinda both. sadly in this guild it does say that its a support hero. sooo. bad ratings instantly. mainly bkb is best lothars.... es and other heros will. stop her. although enigma is over looked. i used to play enigma and i found out it owns. so dun underestimate that blue smurf. coz he will spam him self over plus disable u. XD.

@shim

me and fol and doh were discusing that. its discusing. we need to have a talk with this dude. 1 no gg branch EW. 2 no bracers. 3 if u want skip bracers GET a NULL. plus it lets u spam ur spells more than ur aura. pls. more intel = more mana. lol. silly boi. also ur pros and cons... me and fol were discusin that a lot. u need more pros to make ur hero more lovible. also u need more pros and cons. 4 is not enough. at least 5 for each lol. also we said said wheres the attack animation? -

that is 1 of the major cons of her. also a pro is shes a girl ^^ oh ya girl. lol. no nvm. just that its she can have a good role in team battles thats it. really to be honest i can only think of more cons than pros... how sad. needs a buff this hero. XD.

Nice guide!

Btw, new effects of freezing field are damn awesome! 10/10

I dont like it when u brought boots and booster only, i think that rylain should buy smething which will ad her hp and gives her hp regen, such as bracers/nulls/wraiths... I think if u buy boots and booster only it will make u an easy target... And, i still not agree for the skill builds, if u're fighting a pro, its quite useless to use ur frost-crypt strategy... So i think its better to get Nova, and go for arcane to replenish rylai's mana.. But its a great job... 7/10

33 By Counter_Force[X] 2008-08-07
this guide fails 7 out of 8 games

skipping nova early is the dumbest thing a CM could do

boots early is a divine fail

lothars is a joke, honestly

refresher is a joke, with that item, she'll surely get focus fired

"do not attack stunners, they will stop your ulti"
you have to be kidding me. are you telling me here that if you dont attack them, they wont cancel your ulti?

"nothing to add. Invoker guide was great. This one isn't"

Dude . .

first of all i can't believe my strat isn't out yet . .

and well . .

not bad . .

but not good either . .

i do not agree with you're build at all . .

sigh*

Lothars man! Lothars!

I disagree with many things here, frankly speaking, u shudnt be getting ff at lvl 6, maybe 9, 11 and 16. U don't have the mana to pull everything off and the lack of frost nova in early game juz wastes the damage that can be dealt. Imagine, at lvl 5, u have a frost nova and the guy has 1/3 of his life gone plus slow. But at lvl 16, his damage done wud be a serious joke. And CM isn't a farmer.

hmm...you say u don't have an anti-stunner thing, how about including bkb? its cheap and effective for rylai..

Very incomplete, IMO. Agree with comments above by vakma, fole, coco, etc. etc. Deff not as good as your Kael Guide.
5/10

I say, this arent a great guide

reasons?

Bad explanation on linkens. It is much more situational than BKB and most of the time cant garantee a successful FF.

You bought Lothars. Almost ALL the stats are wasted. You neither need the damage so much, and the agility is simply a waste.

A much better option will be dagger. With you forst bite, escaping from single target will be very easy. Also, dagger is better for entry. Almost cannot be countered.

Refresher is rally bad, UNLESS, cont..

unless you have really insane disables.

Also, Bottle is almmost crucial. She has an extremely high mana consumption, so almost instant mana regen helps a lot in combat. Also, with little regen and lifesteal, constant HP replenish is good.

k thats about it. i will rate it 7/10 first

Congrats on your guide! Keep up the good work.

Why lothars? I suggest that BKB is better, you may use linken's sphere but that doesn't mean that there will be just one stunner/disabler in the opposing team. If you don't agree with my opinion, can you explain it please? Or you should have Omniknight repel the hero?

his best ally will be omniknight if you will not use bkb right? and why you wouldn't choose FN in the early game? Use bottle?

Why refresher? what if the situation is that

-you cast your FF
-click on REFRESHER ORB
-enemies ran away

for me getting refresher isnt that logical...6/10

i stopped reading after seeing you suggesting to get boots as first item

i can see you put hard effort into this strat.. but i've read every post and no one actually mentions that this hero's best friend is enigma! i played a game with enigma and their two ulties combined is GG! we got ganked by 4 people we just both ultied and managed to kill 3! also treant is just as good as an ally with his ult! overall i give you a 6/10 emphasise more about allies and as shim said.. LOATHARS BEATS BKB!

and another thing you can do if you are vsing AM and silencer..

another thing you can do to counter AM or silencer is to become DPS.. this is where loathars comes in, trust me it really works! you can become a killing machine.. loathars helm and butterfly would be all you really need for CM to become DPS! its just a thought tho i dont mean for you to do it everytime you use her.. its only IF the situation arises!

nice strat but u dont need linken for ulti if u got lothars unless the have untargeted stun because u can ulti and then invis without breakin channel

cool guide i think this guide is good and but.. i have played this way since i 1st started using rylai , except i was frost nove and frostbite instead of frostbite, b.aura. good guide though XD

cool guide i think this guide is good and but.. i have played this way since i 1st started using rylai , except i was frost nove and frostbite instead of frostbite, b.aura. good guide though XD

AND THIS AIN'T YOUR FIRST GUIDE IS IT?

Yes, calm, we know its not his first guide, he forgot to edit that after the Invoker one was posted.

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I don't think he knows this is out, someone go hit him with a stick or something...

i agree with boots early sucks. in warcraft, ms ALONE doesnt help.

i also agree with lothars being stupid... bkb serves you hellot better.

rylai isnt supposed to solo lane... your skill build sure shows that.

although im not against the skill build because, thats mine too, its designed for support rylai. aura helps your friend, frostbite helps you kill with friend.

frostbite CAN be more damaging than frost nova. 210+your atacks and the creeps on a single target. nova helps you push... 5/10

oh yea the items. shivas IS overrated. looking cool doesnt help you win games

refresher. . . you drunk?

BoT, exactly.

radiance? why? you gonna be the team's dps?

ah yes, the pros and cons.
high int gain, thats good only its because shes an int hero. its 3 pros and 4 cons.....! it wont help you get people to use her..? well, she does need a buff but STILL its your strategy, compromise!

i didnt like it

CM needs kills earlier, i say frostbite and nova to lvl 8 then get freezing feild, all u have to do is frost, run close, attack a lil and nova, ur items sucked....refreshers????, radiance? radiance would b nice but u need mana not dps instead of getting brilliance aura just get 2 mantles and a circlet early, then make em into nulls

this build is lame....

sorry man...

@ shim
i'll try to hit him with thundergod's wrath!


oops, he's at wind walk.

You'll just run if there is a silencer or repicked her when d opponent pick silencer....shame of u....what is the strategy for... ...anyweys 5/10

Dagger is the best item on Maiden

This guide was submitted before his Kael guide, making it his first guide.

-_-

if you already bought lothars, be sure to buy bkb to counter those nasty aoe stunners

wait so you said frost nova is a good early game skill but your build only has it mid/late game where u said its useless then...

Oh . .this was his first . .

so that explains . .

A LOT actually . .

Ouch. That really hurt to read.

Frost Nova is one of the best nukes in the game. Low mana cost, good damage, and a slow. You are crazy to not get it first. Your reason is that it doesnt match your build but its useful to slow and damage enemies. Does that mean its useful for some other magical reason that noone has figured out?

Brilliance Aura maxed out second? No, just no.

I realy cant believe that this guide is saying to leave Frost Nova til last. You comment on her good combo's......

and then you leave it out completely for the first 15 minutes of the game. In that time you can have killed 3-4 people with Frost Nova and Frostbite. Attack, Freeze, Attack, Nova, dead.

But with this guide you're attempting to do what? Attack, Freeze, Attack then hope they're dead?

Now on to the items, and its not looking much better. I agree with Sceptre but thats about it. Lothars does work, but Guinsoo's is overall better as you can sheep them and then ulti leaving them no chance of....

running for the duration of the ulti. Rather than sneaking in and ult, or ult then hide.
Linkin's, yes maybe, but not before Guinsoo.
Refresher orb fails on CM. As you constantly mention, she has a low mana pool, and her ult costs a lot of mana.
Ult + Refresher + Ult = ~1500 mana
Radiance as an optional? pfft. Maybe if you're versing a bunch of morons. I dont think you realise how expensive your item build actually is, then to add radiance. It honestly seems like you're just trying to.....

take up space.

Now to the guide.

Compared to the builds I was expecting a lot worse, but its not too bad. I've noticed a lack of descriptions on how and where to use Freezing Field which is one of the hardest ultimates in the game to position and perfect.

atm I'm giving this a 3/10 for bad item and skill build and a lot of little annoying things I've noticed. Mainly the constant reference to her good combos and skill synergy but you neglect Frost Nova which is the main ingredient

Frostbite is not that strong when it comes to killing, this skill build is for higher-level games, with more cooperative allies(which you should emphasize BTW) and even so I still disagree. Bite+Nova gives more killing potential early on, even if you solo. And did you happen to mention animation cancelling? Rylai's retarded animation wastes around 2 seconds of Bite-time which could be used for attack.

Not much emphasis on Freezing Field usage, and allies such as Enigma who work wonders with it.

As for item build, totally disagree with Boots at start, rather get Bracer/Null components with tangoes and clarities, or even Bottle.

IMO Guinsoo>Aghanims since I'd want an extra disable along with mana regeneration.

Dagger>Lothars for better positioning, works better with AoE disabler allies.

And I find your build highly unlikely since Rylai is a ganking hero, not farming.

Read what folechno, coco and CFX said as well. And again, animation cancelling.

WHY OROCHI! WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY!
Screenies Do not = Guide

You guide leaves you as NUKE BAIT. You leave her fragile and vulnerable.

BM QoP Lina And Treeant Protector will rip her apart.

In this guide we see moonraven thrasing heroes with no escape skills and no stuns.

People, I am disappointed in you.

Calm the f down people...

this guide is not exactly the most viable way to play Cm but it can work. It just needs a few repairs.

new Freexing Field slows units BTW.

Lothar's Edge works well despite the fact that you waste your money on everything besides the wind walk and armor boosts from the agility.

yes, refresher is a waste of money, we get that people. so stop going nuts.

i suggest a Guinsoo's and a Eul's instead of the afore-mentioned items. and get a blink dagger too.

No edits.

soooo.
4/10 srry

i tink u should get kelens as well...tats my opinion anyway....

you know.... you didn`t even made screenies with a lothar:))
I suppose that boots and soul booster was your whole game build
*sigh*

One of her worst ennemy is mirana cause she can leaps even if you have cast frostbite.

i really discourage of the use of lothars to rylai...she has low ms when an enemy gets a gem or wards she is dead..aura is not very advisable because of her low hp so stats can give her hp bonus

i really discourage of the use of lothars to rylai...she has low ms when an enemy gets a gem or wards she is dead..aura is not very advisable because of her low hp so stats can give her hp bonus

quite nice strat.

ooh i understand ur idea of using lothar's edge, and jas out of curiousity, did u get the idea of using it from Steve-O's Vol'jin the witch doctor guide? hahas im jas kinda curious, no offence or wadeva. But i wud suggest euls for dis hero, cyclone, get near and bite, den field. (:

True BKB is more useful than lothars,, but nice strat

Wow not bad i would say..however stats>briliance aura..since more stats will give more hp since thats what she desperately needs..and 2 bracers are better early on too..boots are a waste since you have a slow which should be learned early on as it loses it capability mid game onwards..keep up the good work!!6/10

Dude I see your logic but seriously wheres bkb? Its a must item . lothars is good its bkb-lothars - frostbite-freezing field-shivas guard-frost nova?

"first strat, I think not (points to Kael) "
Actually, he couldve made this guide first. But kael's guide must've been better which explains why it came out first.

@this guide. Okay brilliance aura gives mana regen. Problem is, you can't get a kill till level 6 unless youre enemy is moronic enough to die by rylai's dps. And yes, your items are a little bit too pricey. You cant really use nova to farm anyway. So I prefer a dagger to lothars. Dagger works for rylai. Freeze+blink

@ comments repetitive much, seriously do you read what everyone else says or do youjust wanna get your 2 cents worth in, the third person said "why lothars instead of BKB" so that shoulda been it but no theres about 30 other posts saying the same thing omg waste of time much??.
ne ways if you actually "READ" the guide you would see the skill build of frostibe and brilliance aura works for how he described early game, to stay alive, duh. also getting both spells early game is a huge waste

... of mana if you dont kill the person which in a decent game would be 9/10 times, also what is the obsession with so many people getting bottles, once you have done both spells using all three charges of the bottle wont give you even half the mana you just used and going back to fountain to refill or finding a rune wastes exp and gold from staying in the lane which is where brilliance aura comes in. personally i think if you cant harass or get kills with just frostbite and normal attacks then

... you fail with this hero and go rage and hide in your holes. also the damage from nova because it is calculated in two stages, as it says in the tooltip, does less damage than it says as magic resistance is factored out for both. now bkb over lothars is situaional, if they have a tema of nukers then either would work fine in terms of ultiing, in terms of just attacking bkb would be better, generally i dont get either anymore because i prefer to go for an int dps build and leave the ulti as

... a means to push a defend, but thats just me cause im crazy O_o, cause if your team is raxing and the enemy are comin and you ulti suprise suprise no one comes to save the rax : O gg...
as a whole teh strat is good for the way he says he plays cm which he mentions in the very begginning that this is what he does and it works for him. teh stat build i usually use except i dont get the ulti at all till like level 14 cause of the way i play i never get to use it till late mid or late game.

... now onto item builds, his items work for his guide so stop bitching because you do it differently, if thats the case write your own damn guide and see if it gets put up, then you can bask in your own glorious item and skill builds all you want.
as i said before i come up with orignial builds each time i play so my items are guinsoo'z (for int health mana and most importantly hex), treads or travel (depends on game), mkb (damage, atk spd), deso (armour reduction, damage), to be cont...

... ac(attck spd, armour aura), last item is situational depending on who im fighting but usually is linkens or more dps such as buriza. pretty much with your frostbite and hex you have heaps of disable so your dps is massive and you will take little damage becasue they aren't moving or attacking much. also helps nmore with pushing and defending which your spells other than your ulti dont help so much with.
so now i've said my piece this guide is good, it could use some improvement though. 7/10

the combo with rylai and juggy is wonderful... it always works during early game... my frnd and i did dat combo over and over again... n the noobs quit.... great guide for rylai...a little bit of disagreement on the skill build. 8/10

tsk...tsk..

not good post...
noob screenshots!! LMAO

@wardy443 nice, finally someone else who comments as much as I do, high five

I would have to disagree with some points
heaps of disables != dps, yes she can disable them but she herself can't do that much damage or that fast, that' why it's good to pair up with a dps hero who can deal lots of damage while the eney is disabled

stats help more for survival than her aura does

getting nova and frostbite allows for easier kills early game, itmakes her combo more powerful

that 9/10 is only if you don't have a lane partner, which is stupid since Rylai can't solo

your item build imo is a waste, she doesn't have the aspd to use that and she doesn't have the ability to farm that unless she uses nova and the enemies just let her farm

she does much better as a supporter disabler than as a dps, and if your team has any kind of teamwork then it will benefit more from that

i think you should get bkb instead of lothars. gives her much needed hp.

hey add me im boganjosh on west lordaron!! Nice strat man i thought u were nuts not learnin the frost nova but now i see y!! add me on msn too man im maca_gunna55@hotmail.com everyone add me so we can talk dota!!

nice strategy

Note that Lothar's edge will not save you against stunners who doesn't have ti target you like Tidehunter,Lion,Nerub and those guys.
lots more...sk,centaur,stealth, demonwitch, lina, slardar, magnataur, ES..pit lord...quite a few more...

I prefer BkB/ dagger rather than WW cuz really every 1 knows you are in the center of the circular freezing field anyway.

frostbite really early game maybe...but I'd never max it b4 nova, I'd never max the aura over nova thats for sure

whoa.

very nice strategy!!!

i never knew that wind walk will stack with freezing field. nice

@ folechno = I deny that CM can't solo, as I have done it and mowed everything as a result. But yes, she is much better off chaining her nukes with an ally. And my solo CM was with the typical max-both-nukes-at-lvl-8 skillbuild.

gj although why dnt you try the old clasic black king bar on her
instead of linkens
extra life and blocks all spells. also gives you more strength than linkens and is much cheaper

I'm still don't agree with lothars note that it can easily be countered by gem or aoe stuns so IMO BKB>Lothars bkb even boost your health which u need.

@folechno:
"which is stupid since Rylai can't solo "
WOAH! Don't kid me. You believe in that sort of thing? I'll tell you for sure, that ANY HERO can solo. I will tell you for a fact however, that ezalor cannot solo against tiny, vengeful, and yunero in a try lane situation.'example'

Anyway, this guide deserves more than 3 stars. It's just a different way of playing. But it's not the skill build you want to play if you're soloing.

agree this strat should have at least 4stars GJ :p

nice one but i recommend bkb and Guinsoo’s Scyte of Vyse instead bcoz aoe stunners can easily break down ur ultimate even if u use lothars edge coz movement after casting ulti will be stupid and wastage of mana and moreover aoe stuns can actually be hit on the ground anticipating where u were before using lothar's disabling ur ulti. Hex is a powerful diabler and i use it with my ulti on heroes.

I really like this guide. You explain everything perfectly and show some very nice screenshots. 10/10!!!

agreed...nice but kinda funny esp the build anw its still kinda excellent

great work man!

@ 111 By wardy443

True so true..!

thanks your strategy was really helpful

You should get BKB
Get Blink Dagger instead of LE.
You shouldn't get Aghanims at first

Nice strat. 8/10.

Explaining is very good. Really good.
However, Rylai gets items as soon as she kills. RoB is a level 2 brilliance aura with armor aura.
Getting a BKB/Dagger/Lothars/Linkens will depend on your enemies. U dont use them all the time. It really depends on the situation.
I also agree with not putting BoSpeed earlygame.
U don't need Mana regen, U need mana pool, so getting 2 null talismans is good for her

@all you guys:
First of all, sorry for not posting any comments, I was on a holiday:)
Secondly, I wrote this strat in...let's say I think it was in March or something,and I abandoned it because I realized it is bad:(I don't mean the playstyle, it's just when I gave it to my friend to test it, he said it wasn't really good to uderstand and I realized it doesn't really guide you towards Rylai I play...Unfortunately I pressed the Submit button and here the strat is, although I think I sent a PM to

drew about it.
@quale yes I know, honestly, look at my preety Invoker screenes!But the problem is that I DIDN'T know.Sorry for that.
@ folechno crapy text, I hate when that happens. OMG, the stupid fonts are messed up too.
I don't think I will update this strat any yime soon, sorry guys, I have to re-work Invoker first, do Ezalor and finish Tinker..Omg I hope drew doesn't post that one too until I finish it, I always pressed the submit button because I have problems with losing it if I don't.

I hope PM I sent to Shimrra_3(who said something very smart in comment # 72 ) explains that Tinker is not ready for posting...
And lastly, I am afraid that IceFrog will be kicked from my friends list becuase:
A) I can't open DotA in World Editor, and I would like very much to do so, I am very interested in how he made some things
B)He rewrites or changes every hero I write a strat for! Bad IceFrog!
Well that is all, now to Invoker strat...

yeah Moon_Raven is back, unfortunately no updates :(

@ 114, naah, you are steal #1 in that.
@ coco buy Lothar's if enemy has got stuns(and they probably do) and if don't have AoE stuns( which they probably don't).It'll pay off, trust me.
@ Counter Force[X]

@ Greater Bash uh, no I suggest you DO get boots first with heroes as this one is.I buy them first with almost all melee heroes as that helps early killing/denying/last hitting much much easier. I sometimes try to buy something else like Nuls,bracers and stuff but I am still most effective with Boots + tango

Hey!!!! how come u have such build?? aura at first only frost bite for disable? Isn't nova frostbite first then aura?? if u have aura instead of nova at early games...how can u able to acquire gold by that...especialy u can't do "last hits" on hero..

Hm, I didn't see there is a build someone must follow.If Everbody had the same builds everytime, the game would be boring. No, you cannot do last hits on hero, but when the tower is attacking him, there is a big chance Sentinel/Scourge will get the kill, so that is a part when you CAN last hit a hero, right?Why do I reply to ppl anymore, I said this is possible, and it is possible - this is a hard way to play Rylai, but much more fun and annoying to enemies, and can be much more effective then

frostbite+nova without aura. Practice it and you will se for yourself...These comments are becoming too short for me...

I put level 1 frost nova just for slow it was OWNAGE

BTW, Yurnero+Furion is the best
furion sprout enemies yurnero eat tree so he get in then blade fury hahahahaha
hahaha just hope your enemy dont have tangoes

Why skill build brilliance aura first? The thing almost useless you ll be even better off with some stats

great strategie

This is very interesting build. I thought that Maiden 'll suck without nova early game but I did try this build and... I got surprised. It did very, very well. Teammates had mana to spam all the time, Frostbite + 2 auto att is quite effective, always had mana to use ulti and kill. I like it ^^. 8/10

Bleh no lotahr too expansive since the new items needed to build lothar over all good job

hmm.. no thats no good... rylai doesnt need brilliance aura... (if u have mana thristy allies.. then u might consider it) rylai is a combo caster and that from the very beginning u can harrass your enemies early on. thats ur big advantage.. and for her ulti (and therefor aghanim) to make any sense she NEEDs a BKB.. also im not sure of lothars. good u get an escape.. but with ur disable and the slow u should be fine gettn away most times
and no boots first circlets, mantle and gauntlets + tangos

um id go bkb over lothars for hp and frostbite before nova ONLY IF u hav a teammate in yr lane....... but this is a good guide