Kael-The Invoker

wow new invoker guide!!! that was good!! gonna try invoker later!!! ^_^ 10/10

First Comment yeah
quite nice guide first invoker strategy

Totally 10 out of 10 nice screenshots
and a perfect item build for invoker
he really need a guinsoo and an orchid for multiple kills

good first strat for invoker, gna definately try it out !

WoW what a detailed strat, its good, the only thing is that my item build is a little different but this works too. I will give one more detailed reding and see if i hav anyting else 2 add

congrats and nice work for being the 1st invoker guide. gonna try him later and follow your guide 10/10

Nice guide :)
Try Meteor+Deafening Blast combo ^^ Thats especcially effective mid game facing INT heroes... You just push them through your meteor in the direction it goes :)

*jaw drops
whats with you?! i mean... wth. 10/10
no comment, read it, every skill has an explanation. completely, complete. other than other item builds

You beat Amplirage to his. I'm not complaining but...i wanna see Amplirage's strat as well. Your was rushed(Except for the Screenies)

Alot of Typographical errors and such. But I can understand. Overall, great strat 9/10

good guide.
i will try it, coz i never played invoker yet

we use the same build ..... but some still doesnt know how to use him. try to put some 3 or 4 skill combo ig you can

I think this hero is very interesting and fantastic.It's spells are better than others.Chaos meteor & deafening blast will be firstly used and then Emp is used >

9/10 yo. keep up the good work. you deserve all the credit here ;D GOOD JOB!

so long!

but im not complaining
10/10

Let's try this !!!!! first eeq (forge spirit ) has been summoned and Ice wall, Deafening blast & chaos meteor & Tornado

good guide for the invoker. thanks for giving one!!!


you said you'll update this so i'm not gonna rate it yet. there's something more you can say about kael's skills, item builds and style. but this guide is good for starter, beginners will learn a lot.

suggestion:
if you want the icons of each spell of invoke, try opening kael's profile to a new window. click-hold the spell icons from there then drag to your work. i think that'll work.

INVOKER GUIDE! Ok. The one thing you seriously need here is an explanation of the Blast-Meteor combo, which I would argue for getting at lvl10.
My skill build leaves Quas for last instead of Wex (better to utilize said combo by pumping Meteor), but its your guide. Along the same line, not everyone is going to follow this by the letter, so you should probably put in the damage-per-level for Tornado instead of assuming that they will get it exactly when you would.
Continuing...

Skadi and Linken's are both excellent on Invoker, I would give them a higher priority - but Guinsoo and Orchid are also powerful. Radiance works so-so, but I will refer to my ancient philosophy about Radiance on Windwalkers (its asking for trouble). The one item you missed is Shiva's Guard, which is a great synergy with the Blast-Meteor combo if not the others.

Missed enemies... definitely Anub'arak, and throw in Drow and Krobelus for silences.
Continuing...

... and you can't counter Doom by turning on Quas if you are already Doomed, seeing as that silences you.

Now what... ah. The things you DID explain - which is almost all of them - are done excellently. I for one didn't know that the Forged Spirits were so powerful, I am considering trying them out next time. 9/10 at present, 10/10 if you get those updates in. Good work.

INVOKER GUIDE??? WHOA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

INVOKER GUIDE??? WHOA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry bout the double post

Aha so we see Moon_raven's work, finally. I find that it is consise and sweet but might require a bit more explanatin and screenshots on combos.

Very indept guide. GOood!!!!

10/10

but wheres ur kill build lol!

invoker is not a kiling hero it can assist your team in a whole lot of ways people will thank you for your assisting

now i know how to own the game by using kael....

nice job Moon_Raven! XD

-killua98_killer

well....im not impressed

Great strat! i made one too for invoker but for some reason the mods cant see my strat(its not in their database). though i prefer to spam tornado early game as it does alot of dmg and is really quick. Overall better guide than mine, mine has no screenies :(
9/10

Good guide i usually go for linken, then eye of skadi,if farmed well hex and radiance will be my item. Anyways 10/10 to u

Very nice guide. Very descriptive.
Going to hard to top this one.
A few points that may seem vague to noobs..ah you can't help that lols
I will comment in the future for some points I disagree in. Tired...


9/10 :D

Great guide buddy. One thing though... Deafening blast is used all-game as even early the knockback is strong enough to get another second of meteor. I get the same item build :D.

Also, include the forge spirit+ Alacrity+Cold snap combo maybe?

I think you just need to show many combos, even icewall, ghost walk (if u got radiace) is a safe and effective combo :P.

Great guide. MAke another

Thanks for all your comments guys.
@ coco(and many others who mentioned some combos) yes, I wanted to list many many combos but I had already submitd the strat, so I will add them as soon as I can.

Well, I guess I have to say something more about your comments.
@ classix_8bandung uuhhh no, its not 1. comment
@ gimpage yes, that combo can be very useful in many situations and will add it and many others
@DrifterZ I am not trying to race or beat anyone, I checked for typing errors but I can't really detect all of them... I will try to correct more
@quale yeah I will say, and about the icons, I already tried, there are onlq QWE and invoke

@ Shimrra_3 I prefer geting quas instead of wex becuase my aim isnt really to do as much damage with invoker, as I said I play him as a support.Anubarak can be tricky and I will add him to enemies but I dont think he is THAT bad.As for Drow and Krobelus...As I said, it all depends on your allies if you are support.
@ sfsy1 My build is support and I haven't put in any other builds becuase that is a totally different thing from the beggining, I just added a few tips for those who want to make it

YAY...invokerstrat...like your comments and explanations about te invokes...well explained...10/10

umm how do u write a start and how do you set out all those pictures and effects of items and etc becaus eim planing to write a strat/ please help me :(

good guide! invoker FTW

totally awesome. I'm honored to read

I like 2 call GhostWalk as Ghostmode

Tried Cold Snap+Forge Spirit today... Jesus christ thats imba ^^ 900 range w00t???? *G*

lol actually i meant skill*

@ sfsy1 haha.Well did you actually read the strategy? It's in the early game build because when I was making the strategy, Kael's spells were all messed up in the strat build. I heard that that is fixed and I will move it to place when I update the strat.

@ sfsy1 haha.Well did you actually read the strategy? It's in the early game build because when I was making the strategy, Kael's spells were all messed up in the strat build. I heard that that is fixed and I will move it to place when I update the strat.

great guide, congrats

few comments
meteor range is based on wex (you didn't have wex there)

in late game section "This can be achieved buying ____ and Orchids Malevolence"

electro mangetic PULSE

I'm pretty sure if you're doomed you can't activate quas

you just need to read over your guide carefully for typos and such, would also recommend putting the text into word to run a spell check

@guide great, the screen shots really help to understand how to use all the abilities

I think you might want to add something about how far the distances are for both Tornado and Meteor. I know this is a support build but you will be using those skills for late game.

You note how radiance and ghost walk are awesome together. hightlight this some more. Also, radiance works well with Cold Snap since it will hit them each second so that can repeatedly stun them, with ghost walk, the can't go anywhere and they can't attack you either

the tables for the skills really help and the color coding for the hotkeys is a plus

I don't think BS can see you if you are invisible but your location on the minimap will be revealed.

again nice guide. the only downside I can see is that this is a support guide and people will want a hero killing guide, but they can go make their own

10/10

Oh, damn, sorry for the double post, I refreshed the page although there is a warning that says not to refresh it.
I know meteor damage depends on Wex, where don't I have it?If it it a table, I really couldn't find a way to find out what is meteor range. I could try to calculate it from min and max range and number of levels, but I am unsure if it rises at same speed.Hehe,Pulse, ok thanks.I must check if you can activate quas while doomed(same goes to Shimrra).And OMG hov mani spl erores i hev¡

Very nice and detailed guide. There are some things I don't agree with, though Shimmra already pointed most of those out: Radiance on Ghost Walk is easily countered by an Eye in the Forest which isn't removed, sentry wards, necronomicon (due to the fact that they can spot your slow), gem, etc. I wouldn't bother getting that item, it is much better spend on extra HP items or most importantly stats, since Invoker has no extra stats like every other hero. For this purpose, focus on ultimate orb.

... because Ultimate Orb adds +10 to every stat which is nice for Invoker. I also rarely use Forge Spirits and Tornado considering I play aggressively with Wex and Exort all the time. I'll definitely look into using some more Quas the next matches I play. =)
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Good job on your guide though, I was thinking of writing one myself but I see it is no longer needed now (then again, you did treat the guide as support, so I guess a guide for a combat Invoker can still be written.

very well said

Finally invoker guild....

awesome giude for invoker,but i cannot remember all spells of invoker..

WOW great guide. i love the screenshots.

hmm, do you suggest getting dagon 5 and necronomicon? coz i usually see people use those when theyre invoker

You are brave to try and make a guide about Invoker...I can play him, but explaining all the Invokes would be impossible for me.

shouldve added other spell combinations. otherwise 8/10

hard hero to write a strategy for, i respect that, nj

Oooh, very nice guide. I wish you added a little more detail about his invoke spells and their significance becuase most people don't use things like suntstrike or forge spirit well. Also, with specific spells like sunstrike, you should tell how to use it to finish someone who got away. (Predict path and fire where you think he'll be. I've gotten numerous kills that way). Finally, i'd like to add that heroes like strygyr and balanar can SILENCE you with their spells. (Should add that to them).

wow, the majority of the screenshots are so unnecessary

"Also, with specific spells like sunstrike, you should tell how to use it to finish someone who got away. (Predict path and fire where you think he'll be. I've gotten numerous kills that way). "

common sense? no? lmfao

'teach me how to predict where a hero will be after 1.7 seconds plz because im too dumb to figure it out myself'

Very nice. Must've taken ages to make it. I was planning on making it, but I got lazy. I see you were going for caster Invoker. Invoker is VERY WEAK late game, and can't really do anything.

I personally prefer him a Battle Invoker since many of his skills are good for support and disable than nuking. Good guide though.

when you first talk about meteor you say "The damage is based on exort level and range is base It is very difficult(read "impossible")"

it should read "The damage is based on exort level and range is baseD ON WEX. It is very difficult(read "impossible")"

you don't need to add the range to the table but that would be awesome if you did

EMP means Electro-Magnetic Pulse, BTW. Very good guide.

Great guide! I just don't like getting wex last, i like to max it out after exort, it gives very nice chasing ms.

wex > exort late game as the attackspeed combined with your damage is greater than your crap attack speed with added damage.

seemingly useless fact but hey, some people keep exort on all game under the delusion that +63 damage is greater than movespeed and attackpeed.

disagree with you shim, if you are in a serious game, they will probably have a tracking hero or use wards/gem anyway, the radiance is actually a good idea as they are slowed and taking damage, ghost walk + www = LEG IT

as for sunstrike last hitting you need to look at the speed they travel at, guess where they will be in 1.7 seconds (assume they are taking a direct route home)
look at where creeps are in your lane, compare that position to theirs, if they are likely to be at the same spot, aim higher and adjust your aim accordingly.
click and hope, if it does kill, remember to type "LOL OWNED"

Gr8 guide dude 10/10.yea nice support build.but i like guinsoo and skadi build.a good combo late game with my build is alarcity,cold snap and 2 forge spirits.hp goes down very fast of any hero lol.:)

nc1 we've got the exact same build..sucks though,probably bcoz i'll be seeing my item build in every invker plyer.. if u know what i mean..

I know how to use all of the heroes except him He is so complicated.

Some one teach me.

I usually use Meteor and Deafening Blast. I cast Meteor first and Deafening Blast next. The "!" on their foreheads means that unit is terrified and will always retreat, it is not really a stun. This is really a good combo for Meteor coz you know your enemy will always retreat.

this guy has all sorts of heroes labelled "bad" enemies! Are you sure, hes imba? I dont think so! And to add to this, he has a pathetic 500 HP and his stats dont increase quickly as well.

Thanks to icefrog for producing a hero whose skill balances the stats

nice..i realy like to play as a support hero..thats why i like your guide,.its nice except for some clerical errors,. thanks coz i wanted to play him

hahaha where is counter force or shud i say counter geek ang wheres greater gay?

@ pinkish devil well actually the writing didn't take long, I think I wrote it in 4-5 days actually but I was thinking about how will I write it for 2 weeks...
@ folechno yes I know there are so many errors!Sorry guys,I will correct all of them.And I think I will add screenshots about meteor range or something
@ rthapa eeerrr... well why don't you read my guide?Guides are usually designed to teach.

@ Kakisho yes, it is sad that 99% of people use only Meteor + deafening blast, that's why I don't really like that combo, nobody uses his other spells which are so cool.You are right, I should point out their significanse(I did with ghostwalk I think) and folechno you are right, I really need to point out again about radiance + Ghostwalk combo.I will actually make many combos so that people will start using all his invokes unleashing his full power and potential of total chaos and destruction!!!

I've tried refresher orb on invoker.It actually works just fine if not better. Double meteors and deafening blasts.The only problem is just his mana won't be able to support it.

how about cold snap? its really effective team support and combo with Forge Spirit

Refresher orb if kael has Shiva's, Guinsoo , Oblivion Staff and linkin's. Over mana regen.

Very good and in depth guide. It's hard to make an invoker guide. There are only 2 things which I can make critique about:
That would be:
1)You cant exactly turn on quas if you're doomed seeing as you're silenced

2)And you really need to put in some combos on how to hero kill. I make use of cyclone, meteor and deafening blast for maximum damage. I usually cast meteor, use shiva's(it's part of build) to slow him in the line of the meteor, hex, to make the enemy stay in the line of *cont..

attack, I then use cast deafening blast in case he gets away, and continue attacking. If he does still get away, I invoke cyclone and cast it to ensure a kill.

Oh yes, instead of an orchid, I usually go for shiva's straight after the sheepstick.

anyway, I definite 10/10. Not just because this is a kael guide, but that it's also good

oh yes, talking more about using forge spirit, sun strike and emp would be useful. I've never used sun strike before. I have used EMP before though. I drop the bomb and i use deafening blast to push the enemy towards it. Sun strike is hard to cast due to the long casting time sadly..

Yeah, please don't comment that it needs combos anymore because I will add them. Same goes for spelling errors, except I won't add them, I will remove them

I have tried some of your combos and they worked great! Nice job!!! Hope you update it.

EMP = Electro Magnetic Pulse
(learned that from The Matrix )

gd guide, very long tho! expected 4 invoker...
i found it a bit confuzing but invoker aint easy 2 play hahaha
7/10

Solid guide i have been playing invoker for a few weeks now and i really like him. I usually use the noob combo of blast, meteor. But i think now ill invest some time in my Quas spells. i like getting linken's and EoS personaly because of invokers terrible stat growth and if you get preservance you dont need Quas early game. which is nice for some early kills with meteor(it amazing how many people will run right into it, and its even more amazing how many will do it twice)

about the icon of each invoke spell:

when you open kael's profile, under INVOKE are all his spells with explanations and their icons. click the icon and drag to your work. this will make your guide look cooler and presentable.

good guide. i like it because it explains really well each spell. Not exactly how i play. but i do like to use refresher for late game because when i want to push a lane by myself i like to refresh forge spirits so u have four pushing a lane. And if u have BOT u can be on another lane to push the other lane. It just makes the game fun also. Double of the same combo spells.

Good strat. It is true most people cant use Invoker and those who can usually stick to the Meteor and tornado combo. Ur guide changed it up a bit . My favorite invokes are ghost walk and ice wall. This is just awsome in a gank situation. Pretty much once u do this ur enemy cant really do anything and ur team mates can beat the hell out of them. ITEM SET MOM and Pure Bashers it wokrs!.FUN ONYL3

Excellent guide.. As for the people requesting hero killing invoke well they will have to wait! I understand it was hard enough to put a guide on invoker; I wouldn't dream of making a strat for him because he is so complex!As for the forge spirit combo I have never really been good at microing but I would like to learn so I'm definately gonna give a go! And ghostwalk and radiance definately too! Well I always like to get lifesteal with him and make him more DPS, *cont*

With his Alacrity he can take out a bradwarden faster than a well equipped clinks. Personally depending on my opponents i make him either heavy nuke or DPS. For DPS i recommend Bfly, Buriza and orchids. I suggest orchids first. He will have insane atsp with exort maxed and HotD gives a nice 20damage: can't complain! As for spellcaster, if its -em mode then i would get EoS, hex and if somehow game is stil going orchids or satanic! anyways gr8 strat man! 10/10 for me as this is support invoke!

Nice guide. But at the end you should have emphasised more on how Nerubian Assasin owns, rapes, destroys, annihilates this hero constantly :)

No Bracers!!! Not even a single health item???
Ahem....There are no absolutely no stats for Invoker, and you HAVE to cover up for them by buying stat items. I am not saying you to tank, but dude, what about SURVIVAL. Also, I didn't find the guide comprehensive enough as to explain when to keep which spell ready. With necro lvl3, ur inv and health are just too bad. You can't rely on an escape technique which decreases your movement speed too.
However, the guide does tell us about... cont.

Thanks
10 / 10

However, the guide does tell us about the arsenal of spells invoker has and how to use them. (Not exactly, when to use them).
Still, I appreciate someone to start a guide on this seeming to be complex hero.

nice nice. i want some more.

aaahhhhhh! so confusing!!!

still ok at but how did the invokes get there? I tried clicking his ulti and nothing happened!

You must have any 3 powers active(quas,wex or exort) and then you press the invoke button

Yeah, you guys are right you cannot turn on any powers if you are doomed.Sorry, I will fix that

This is the coolest guide ever,invoker is imba! great work! Nicely done!http://www.dotastrategy.com/images/smileys/cool.gif Only one thing i would change,in the screenshots the arrows should be red not yellow. lol just kidding GJ

Im impressed... your only 15 years old(i know him in real life) and got 5 stars. keep going http://www.dotastrategy.com/images/smileys/hysterical.gif

good one (10/10)

Excuse me raven. If you are still reading the comments, I have a doubt in mind. Why are we not taking any health item for invoker?

I said you can buy a bloodstone if you want, otherwise I rely on skill rather than on more Hp to save me, and you should too.If you play him like a real support(very hard) you should have no problems with low Hp, especially if you use quas correctly.

Oh, yeah, forgot to say, instead of buying +Hp items, you can buy more useful ones like Guinsoo's, EoS or Orchid's
@ komar93 xD, who is this guy?I am glad that you like my strat whoever you are.

EMP stands for Electro Magnetic Pulse

^ Starcraft knowledge.

shouldnt u add basher combo?
cold snap + Alacrity
and full wex.
2 bashers makes it almost permabash

no he shouldn't add that basher combo, way too much money and it doesn't work to well

also, this is a support build

Good startgey

yer a combo with refresher is to summon 4 sprits and they r all melting armor that mes pure damage 4x83 plus your they'll be running 4 there lives + great strat gk :)

ok.. but i don't really think the "big red rolling rock" won't work... its fairly easy to dodge.. i'd go for lvl 3 quas and wex(tornado) then max out exort.. works much better...

ok.. but i don't really think the "big red rolling rock" won't work... its fairly easy to dodge.. i'd go for lvl 3 quas and wex(tornado) then max out exort.. works much better...

DAM HELLA GOOOOOOOOD! 50/50! i ma try ur style! xD Ö

if you have replay invoker that use all of his skill, then this guide is perfect, but without replay i give 9/10

sux.. just sux..
:)

sheesh.. some people just dont get it. If meteor can be dodged that easily, then I dont see why icefrog would even create it. And it's extremely hard to do damage without utilizing meteor. Like i said, use deafening blast to hold the enemy into place. Or ice wall to slow the unit down

one thing i almost always do when playing invoker is accidentally press alt + Q Q Q
and exit the game.

moon_raven
pls take note that the sun strike can be cast in any area of the map just like zeus' ulti.

Anyway your guide is very concise 10/10

moon_raven
pls take note that the sun strike can be cast in any area of the map just like zeus' ulti.

Anyway your guide is very concise 10/10

10/10 for sure man, great effort!

Keep up the good work

@ #116 Oh, man it is a good damaging combo and I have added it, but this is a support Invoker guide! If you want damage you should cast meteor, and I have even explained it in detail + good screenshots and I really don't get it what you guys are trying to say.

woooooohoooooo man nice strat i'll give u 100/10 if it is supposed gr8 job

woooooohoooooo man nice strat i'll give u 100/10 if it is supposed gr8 job

good job on the guide but my opinion is that dis guide focusing more on spells and i fink he has good combat skills but thats with a diff item build good guide 8 outa ten

Great great guide... can see how much effort and time you invest in it. 10/10. GJ

The item build is BAD, but overall a GREAT guide .9/10.

,wow. very nice..
haha. 10/10.

YAY INVOKER GUIDE
and the hugest guide ive ever seen

i don't really agree with the multi dmg combo..

because what i know is..

casting meteor has a delay.. (a second maybe)

so the enemies (if smart) can get out from meteor's side AOE first before you cast defining blast

but good strats..

need to learn more about invoker..

@ 126 why would you say so?

cast hex on guinsoo before casting meteor. that way, he'll eat all the damage of your meteor. then pummel him with defeaning blast and tornado! hehehehehe

Well yes, that can work too, but you can really put Deafening blast, meteor, Tornado and Hex almost any order you like becuase if you practice, they will eat all damage anyway.IT depends on enemy, if they are stupid and run with the meteor, why to waste deafening blast first oe hex?On the other hand, if they are good at dodging meteors, then a hex or deafening blast goes first

Great guide. it is so detailed unlike other guides in dota strategy. although it is hard to press qqwrv or something.

nice job

Not bad at all!

Detailed on every part...
A good one!
10/10

@ 133 Guitarstrike why is it difficult? It takes about 2,43 seconds to do it.
@ Others Thanks for the comments

I dislike the item build. You got no HP. You're going to have 800 HP the whole game. Any hero with a stun or in particular NA will kill you before you can do anything. Treads and Skadi is all you need to own..its so simple. And invoker OWNS late game. If I'm doing the math right, invoker at max level with exort would have
3orbs x 3dmg per lvl x 25levels = +225 damage.
Your strat makes him seem complicated, when all you need to do is defeaning blast and atk. Good strategy nonetheless.

kewl guide there, but i was jas tinking well many ppl i noe of oso claims tt meteor is rather difficult ta use, but its actly ez..all u nd is gud prediction, lyk for example, once ur creeps have all been killed and the fog kiks in, immediately try and predict where the opponents will go, will they hug tower, or will they push, if they push, jas cast a meteor while the fog is stil in and voila! imba dmg caused by meteor.if oni i cud put a screenie on the comment box...anyway 10/10 from me (:

Damnit my math was wrong. I assumed level instance meant your level, but I played invoker right now. Your guide is correct, should have read that first, but I just looked at the item build.

I never knew u have to click the orbs for bonuses I thought it was passive

MAN DUDE BATTLE INVOKER IS BETTER

1:Treads
2:HyperStone/LS
3:HyperStone
4:Monkey King Bar
5:Monkey King Bar
6:Eye Of Skadi

Skills
early and mid game get skills like your build but invoke the DEAFINING BLAST AND METEOR.

end game get Cold Snap and Alcricity for perma bash

damn, it must have took u some time to create this guide, good job! but i agree with the guy in top, battle invoker is better. getting def blast and meteor early my build is treads(str) vanguard helmOfD sheepStick orchid and eye, yea invoker can farm that much. u got something wrong though, the def Blast doesnt stun, when they have a "!" it means they cant attack, they can still move to run but cant attack :( and i like ur radiance idea, lol can get annoying! very good guide 10/10

nothings perfect soooo 9.9/ 10 jejejeeje keep up the good work.. but i think its more fun to used blast>meteot>tornado

Hey 1 very good riding partner is Lucifer. Doom + Cold Snap + your dmg wit 3 Exorts (y not throw in a dmg spell 2) = Death for Int heros even at full hp cast as u engage in battle tried dat wit my fren against Sniper and Reverant and couldn stop laughin at dem gettin pawned continuously :) and that combo can be done as soon as lvl 6, more effective at higher lvl obviously but jus FUN :D

very nice strategy!!!!!!!!!! wooooooHHHHH

coming soon guys, my strategy on invoker.

@121:
glad you think so. Works for me

Hahaha NICE STRAT DUDE!
This hero is sick! I used Invoker in a 2 on 3 battle (because my other teamates quits in the midlle of the game --GG)

And we've won! lol
Just me and omniknight!

and yeah, we call it the blondie power!
get it? lol!

sooo complicated that took like 2 hours to read rofl But realy nice review

First of all i will suggest u abt Invoker..
Hes d first hero 2 be so complaicated..
Great Strat Dude..
100000/100000

First of all i will suggest u abt Invoker..
Hes d first hero 2 be so complaicated..
Great Strat Dude..
100000/100000

The Real Invoker(Battle Type)

"Skills"
1.Cold Snap (Quas+Quas+Quas+Invoke)
2.Tornado (Wex+Wex+Quas+Invoke)
3.Ghost Walk(Quas+Quas+Wex+Invoke)

"Items"
1.Treads (INT)
2.Eye Of Scadi
3.Satanic
4.Assault Of Currias
5.Burizza Do Kyanon
6.Manta Style or Devine Raiper Or Monkey King Bar.

good job! well explained, nice images, useful facts and tips. it's long but not boring to read.

try to arrange your item and hero icons for better presentation.

well, this is almost superlative... but what the heck! 10/10

woooo i hope i can use this hero soon ^^,

Hey,i am the 1st comment person in your guide, i very love your guide and u know how to use the hardest hero in Dota i very hope that u can make more guide. After i read your guide, i feel that Invoker isn't hard to use i will try to use this hero lastly,i tell u that the hero that i most like is Lycan. I hope u can make a guide for Lycan cause i love your guide Thank You

Nice man although i play invoker choosing 2 of his powers :)

Its amazing the number of players that have not use invoker yet....Good guide btw kudos to u.But personally, I wud prefer meteor+blast(+tornado if ur fast enuff)but it takes practice....9.5/10

It's a good thing on emphasizing ghost walk for itis one of the most UNUSED skils using invoker...though in my personal opinion it is the strongest.....forit can slow-harass and maybe even kill late game.....10/10

Ahm, please stop posting double comments(lol I posted them too).All people who are listing item and skill builds and strategies for battle invoker please stop that.I said this is NOT a battle invoker and I say that this one is better because:
1) you need more skill to use him
2) you use more skills
3) 8 times funier and more interesting to play
4) I play him(kidding)
@ 157 That is bad because you won't have all invokes available at level 5

@ quale I had:(
I don't know what happened to them but I will re-arrange them I guess.Thanks for the comment
@ 156 No, I won't make a strat for Lycan because I rarely(read "never") play him.
I thought about making a strat for Ezalor because he is my favourite hero in DotA and nobody likes him andeveryone says that he is a bad hero, but I have really mastered him and often get double and triple kills. But I really want to make the guide perfect(more than this one), so it will take some time...

thank you very much....

Excellent invoker guide. This guide PWNS!

too much unnecessary info, one of such is the fact you put too much effort on "how to farm with forge spirit", people have common sense

aside that everything else is neat, i liked it

i believe you should only emphasise on 5 skills-

meteor
blast
tornado
ghost walk
the wall thing

basically, building a DPS invoker is bad though it is plausible, when i play, the only role i put in team battle is a quick tornado, meteor then blast

i prefer building him to survive

8/10

lol, I did the exact same thing on a 1v1 vs The Light, he is a farming god, seriously, with a maxed meteor you can kill about 20 creeps in a matter of seconds, and the fire spirits are insane THE RANGE xD
good strat.

Decent build, but TBH, it's FAR from what I usually go.

I usually go treads and a stygian with GW and Alacrity, play him like a clinkz-esque hero, but with other useful abilities like say... cold snap/tornado.

@ dein_kun 153 = "The Real Invoker(Battle Type)" you're kidding, right? *stare*...

after i read this strategy i own with invoker!!! a really great guide!!

Really nice strategy very detailed strategy and it explains every thing
about the spells how to use it just very nice stategy

Really Nice Guide! I will try it!
btw 10/10 from Venezuela

Oh yeah! one of my fave heroes . . .
try to make some guide on how to use EFFECTIVELY mr. obsidian destroyer . .
i'll be waiting . . .

This is the best strategy for Invoker

Nice Strat.. Excelent. 11/10. it really works even for newbie like me. thank's a lot.

I think cold snap & chaos meteor will be good .If so, enemy will not be return to their base with portal. Deafening blast & tornado is also a great combo . Playing with invoking spells Is very and interesting. I think Radiance and ghost walk combo will be broken down by buying sentry or true sight!!!

great support for perma bashers alacrity+coldsnap.. superfast as and enemy gets stunned...

Really good very well explained 10/10

@ 172 Yes, I agree it is the best, probably because it is the only one :P

@174 Yes, it will, but then it's extra harder for the enemy because they must have either:
A) Ward which is immovable so they'll need about 20 of them if you play smart
B) A gem which costs 750 g and will drop every time they are killed so they have to buy another one.Nice, isn't it?

Would anybody here like if I created a very detailed Ezalor strategy?

I would love to see a good KotL guide. Even better if it was one that enabled you to make use of him in late-game...

Nice strategy man, well I perfer to go on arcane ring in beginning, Never bad with mana.

awesome guide. 10/10

I LOVE IT!!!

u should mention that hes the most weak int range hero. 100% useless for ganks until lvl 5 and not even then he can invoke more than 2 spells with low dmg.
and his manapool doesnt allow him to nuke much.zero lanecontrol.
hes a semi carry who shine in late game, but mostly ganked and harassed with ease.
sentrys giving him hard time and the fact that he dont have stats rendering him allways as freekill even tho he get continuously more power and dmg with each lvl.
no replays? sad u must be bad :]

178 By Shimrra_3 2008-07-26

I would love to see a good KotL guide. Even better if it was one that enabled you to make use of him in late-game...

kotl:
mekansm
guinsoo
bot
skadi

in that order. earlier game shakra support/ nuke spam
for ganks/push use figus..also use figus to teleport infront of fleeing hero and block him. u prolly dont know what i mean because of your lack of knowledge and micromanaging LOL

You don't have one of the best combos! Chaos Meteor + Deafening Blast (cast at the right moment) is fatal, as the blast will keep them in the meteor even if they try to move to the side. Another good one is Tornado, Meteor, Deafening Blast. SOOO many possibilities. Nice guide though.

Woah! The hero is great same as the tactics being listed. Sorry but i found nerubian assasin quite annoying with him. mana bruns up to 260 is a big mess plus the stun and wind walk will bring you to death.

best guide i've seen ty

nice guide i still hate invoker but if it wernt for this guide i still wouldnt really understand the quas wex and extort so thnx and i wil defnitly try perfect this guy..

Really nice guide here. Also, I don't know if you've ever gotten a comment about this, but a strat I like to use for invoker is level Tornado as primary, becuase Meteor can be easily countered. Then get a dagon so you can tornado, then run up to them while they are in the air and dagon them when they get down. But this is really indepth and good, nice guide!

god strategy

i thought you can only learn invoke on levels 6, 11, 16 and 21?

Good... Fucking.. JOB!!

10/10

does that mean invoker doesnt have any skill atributes to add to since 7X3(wex, exort,quas) +4 from ulti

wow i'm very amazed of what i've red!
this was such a great guide for using invoker!which we already know a difficult hero to use!tnx 4 the guide!

pati ka da mali na!!!kamango sa imo mali2 gina 2dlu mo!!!

I just played a game against a lot of melee heroes, earthshaker, magnus etc. and we didn't have ANY tanks :S
My point is invoker can make a pretty decent tank. Just buy boots, void stone, ring of regen., shield, vitality booster, ring of regen., point booster, 2xultimate orb, and skadi. You should be able to to finish the Vanguard before lvl 10. just use meteor to farm and annoy the hell out of your enemies XP
Great guide btw. 10/10 I especially like the invokation statistics and tables... =)

a invoker guide..!! too bad this hero sux..!


but this hero is a lot complicated than i ever imagined..

@192 that's correct, Invoker does not have stats like all the other heroes, just like they don't have 10 spells like he does

Dang this hero is Complex lol.

Erm. The skill icons could be added and the cooldown with mana cost also during the strat, easier to think of combos ha ha.
And deafening blast pushes creep back in 1.75s, but not sure the distance? And this would cut trees!!!! whooo hooo. Ha ha

this is a damn good guide, thank you, you obviously put in a lot of time. I found that writing down all the codes and just just doing AI with mana infinite cheat helped me spam them all and figure out proper aiming and timing and stuff.

very nice work man, I consider myself to be good with most characters but this is one dude that I always -repick with. I finally understand his wqe a bit better now, i used to think they needed to be activated to amp your spells, this new info changes my world. thanks for the insight homie

Awesome guide man. This hero is stupid complicated but I'm starting to understand him more after this.

Dunno if this has been mentioned already as there are a lot of comments, but it wasnt mentioned in the guide. The main reason for using sunstrike is that it has infinite range.

First time I found this out I spent a whole game just freaking people out by blasting them whenever they were standing still from across the other side of the map.

what about invoker's playing in 6.54..?
anyway very interesting guide, i learnt a lot about a hero i guess i'll have problems to play...

good work !

needs to be updated since his skills changed in 6.54 (and 6.54b)

unfortunately this user has been afk for a long time (even more unfortunate since his/her(?) Rylai guide was just published)

Never fear, Amp is writing an awesome Kael guide which will be better than this

great guide. Shimera3 just a note if u r ghostwalking ur oponent knows ur there because there slowed anyway.so a radiance just let's the complete noobs know ur there and u should b able 2 kill them anyway This works great, BUT ONLY MID GAME.don't get a radiance past lvl 10 or 12 at the latest. Other wise its a waste unless u want it for farming. IALWAYS GET THIS IF I CAN. Gives kills and farming. Just wstch out for towers 1nce again great guide, but get updates for new andDONT GET INOJE LVL2itbad

Nice very descriptive.

Hello,I am on holyday and haven't seen that there is new version of the map, and they posted my Rylai srat although I said that it is not finished...I will update everything in 5-6 days when I come back home!

ok I've thought a little bit and with some tests, necrominion is a great item. Now u can get 2 fire elements erarkyer and 2 becros is just omg. Those 4 plus coldsnsp =kill. For those of u having trouble farming, a great way us 2 go into a forest and forge a spirit or 2 and have them soak up nuetral attacks. It works well. About my other comment, just because u can get invoke lvl2 don't. Get exist we'd then invoke and harras him. Then quad then exist. When y get Negro use them spirits and snap= gg

The best ever>>>i thought i could never learn how to use Invoke...
it was hella funny also
consider me taught by a "GODLIKE" pro

I like spamming EMP for early game since it burn their MP so bad that they cant use skill on you which can keep you safe. because early game even int hero have trouble keeping up with their mp. yunero and purge are useless without their skill. In the new version they change the cd for meteor to 70sec so we cant spam them anymore. so tornado is better in my opinion. you can spam 3 tornados in about 75-80sec... which is about 1125damage if maxed quas and it can go extremely far with maxed wex

lol how to counter balanar was funny

yeah nice invoker guide ...

SO Bad.it is not true

awesome man but i didnt even understand a damn

Stupid IceFrog!
First update will be just to kick him from special thanks list!But he really balanced it... AND METEOR COOLDOWN IS 70 sec!So you can't spam your Deafening Blast/ Meteor combo! I WIN! Working on this now...
@ folechno I can only hope that none of Amplirages 479 different strategies and tactics and none of his 1249 item builds will be similar to mine:P *cough*
I am between two guides of the months!!! Awesome!

Ooops, I forgot to actually dowload new map before changing Invoker :P

need to train my finger...a lot

really good strategy guide, thx

hahaha awesome!!!!

wata gay build duheuhehe... im way bettaah
btw they should make invokerz head bigger man. srite.
the game xo

nice guide!!

this is ver very good hero ver interesting
but this is very hard to control

I also found that alacraty works well early game. Very little cooldown (20) and cost 50 mana. Wit a rob u can spam this early mid and late game. Early game if ur getting pushed cast on self. Works really well

i used to play as invoker 4 a bit but i never used cold snap.. but now i rly want 2 try usin it. it looks like it can b rly affective especially with alacrity and spirits sounds fun!!

omg the strategy is bigger than the coments lol. 10/10
i never actually knew that cold snap gave mini stuns when u attack a target effected by it.
after seeing the stats for rank 7 quas i think he could also be a very good tank with vangaurd u could get like 20 hp per second just need some hearts.
very imformative btw tyvm.

thankz a lot, ur guide is best ever invoker guide i have read, thaks a lot

excellent

nice strat nice nice perfect all nice

i created a combo named==>wriggly meteor emp=send a tornado on the enemy,then as quickly as you can use both meteor and emp;until he lands after the tornado he'll get maximum damage and mana burn

plx send a comment for this combo P.S:moon raven i hope you will find this one such imba

hey, you can add INVOKE at level 2?

nice guide i like it..thanks alot!!!

Yes, you can get invoke at level 2 since map...hm, not sure, I think it was 6.54.

Wtf, how can I make those smiley spammers dissapear?

By asking of course...

*Force wave* you never saw any smiley comments.

well?u haven't send anything about the tornado-meteor-ElectroMagneticPulse combo moon_raven. plx response me wenn u see this comment

u and shimrra_3 are the best strategy creators!! these two are my main heroes now!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cool

I got a nice item build for invoker aswell. BoT. Shivas guard. Skadi. S&Y. Bracer. Bracer
Bot + skadi + S&Y mass slow and if you turn wex on you will have 500 ms!! that is almost max ms all the time :D
Shiva + deafing + meteor :D IMBANESS first they get pushed with the meteor and then they get slowed down, so they can't walk, for a short time, wich give you time to cast tornado, so if we do some simple math. about 600 damge frmo meteor + 280 from deafing blast + 200 from shivas + tornados 380:D

And S&Y is more slow, and it also works as a survival item :D, + skadi doing pretty much the same thing, slow + survival :D and shivas, also slow, and more armor (he really needs that because he got pretty low basic armor^^) bracers just because i don't think you would be able to farm any more :D

im trying invoker right now! I only read around half of it :( my attention span is only so long on a sunday morning but im going to do a 2v2 ai right now!

Am Gonna Try It Out ...

Invoker Is A Really Nice Hero ..

When You Reach Lvl 25 ..

Your Fire Elementals Will Have 900 Range .. Which Is Higher Than The Fountain !

So You Can Hit It Without It Hitting You