Sven, the Rogue Knight

am i first? nice guide man. we still havent play yet in Garena hehehehe

armlet should be ore

he is a tank yes and armlet is the cheapest tank and dps item for a str hero

need more reasonings on why bf shouldnt be a core, i agree you shouldnt get bf, but people who are advocates fail to understand why bf isnt needed

here's something to help;
sven already has great damage, getting survival items first is better

and also, since you plan getting ac, aura should be skipped since they dont stack

this honestly doesnt look like a great guide, but i agree it's comprehen

1.I HEAVELY disagree with clave beeing an 'situational' skill.Clave is for farming,killing (2 heroes at once) and team battles.It's NEVER an situational thing (unless youre 1v1).And the armor can and is very usefull early in the game,but stats are an nice alternative as well.
2.Vanguard is totaly useless at lvl 16+...vanguard is an early game item that looses it's efectivnes in time (the +250 hp remains usefull).I never use vanguard on sven,2-3 bracers are way better netx comment...

wooo 2nd not bad 8/10

and battlefury is an exelent item for sven as it can provide early game regeneration (perseverance) an nice dmg and most of all an huge clave (combined with youre clave) witch is NOT situational.
3.GJ explaining the animation cancel of Sbolt
4.More screens

when (and if) you update i will vote

more;

i think you should emphasise on getting helpful instead of building him into a late game dps only, because you're not a farm hero

great cleave shouldnt be delayed too much, you need em eventually

i like this guide, kinda better than the other ones, but seriously, need more explanation rather than saying-[optional]

6/10

Not a bad 1 but i prefer battlefury as an core item for him. I usually buy perserverance first as it provides hp and mana regen which allows him to survive and gank non-stop. MoM and satanic are situational. If u really need the attspd then MoM but if u need more tanking capabilities then satanic is the way to go.My item build is BoT,battlefury,lifesteal item(MoM or Satanic),BKB,Burize and HoT. GJ :)

bf is highly un needed, i will give you a link on a replay by SK as well as stating that sven isnt supposed to be a farmer early. BF is only good later on for pushing, thats all. DO NOT ADD BF, just say it's optional you people wants to get it. pers wont help, stats mana boost and bottle does better

This is a good hero strategy that definitely deserves more readers than just the ST and the mods. Whatsoever small shortcomings in this strategy is more than made up for the good explanations. Besides strategies can be updated, so lower your expectations a bit - not every strategy can be made like our Featured Guide, you know.

i said all that because i plan making a guide for this hero, not say that i underestimate him, i just feel that theres too little to be shared

Im not too impressed dude. I think MoM is horrible when you sacrifice that armor. SnY is a permanent fix to your MS. And vlads gives you all you need. Mana regen, armor aura (now you have +10 armor aura) damage aura, and lifesteal. I can tell you put efforts into it but no great cleave???!!! IT works. With a Bfury it rapes creeps. MAking it easier to pwn and get your other items.
I highly suggest you reconsider a lot of these things.

Remember, i'm not trying to bring you down. Constructive->

criticism never hurt anybody. for now 7/10

And by the way, im not saying battlefury is god.

Just consider it in optional items.

75% cleave is never worthless.

And by the way, im not saying battlefury is god.

Just consider it in optional items.

75% cleave is never worthless.

cleave now has the right numbers so you can take the correction out, same with toughness aura

reorder your item build (you say MoM after bashers but it's before bashers)

ms is below average (not almost)

is venomancer a good ally early game? (you have his pic but don't name him)

in mid game you have "Late game strategy:"

"Assault Cirrus" misspelling

vlads on jakiro? he's not melee

do 2 god's strength stack? (refresher)

this strat seems non-linear and I'm not sure what your best item build would be (if you have one) because you mention so many item all over the place

agree with your early game skill build but if Sven is to be the tank in team clashes, the cleave will be really useful and will help your dps heroes get the kills

suggest moving the screenshots to appropriate places in the guide

you don't talk about when to use God's Strength other than don't use it on creeps

I think HotD is better than

MoM since it will negate your armor and like you said, you're not the dps hero, also it can be upgraded to satanic

ganking all early game? don't think that's a good strat since you won't have too much gold or exp (you're sharing it with your ally)

BKB is useful is you are the tank/dps hero who can't be disabled and dishes out the damage (cleave would help a lot)

moce the sven info (lvl1 and 25) into early game, makes no sense in mid game

animation canceling is good

don't think sven should get guinsoo, way too expensive for the 3.5 sec disable, diffusal blade is much cheaper, although a team mate is always better

should mention creep pulling to help farming with neutrals (in mid game), not that you will need help with neutraling with your armor and lifesteal

"Undergrowth" you mean overgrowth

hyperstone is better than bfly, much cheaper

agree with cf[x] armlet is really good, especially with lifesteal (not MoM since you will take a lot more dmg)

cuirass is kinda a waste unless you are the supporting tanker since you have lots of armor so the additional armor won't do anything, only the aspd and -armor is useful (and not worth 6k)

the extra hp you get from activating armlet will negate the hp loss you incur so it's a good item

can't see necro or buckler as good items since you can't hold them for very long so the minions won't do too much and you won't need additional armor

"Dagger of Escape" just dagger now

diffusal is in both special cases and rejected/don't get, choose one

revise the into now that this has been approved

"Definitely not the guide to getting lots of kills and streaks" despite the fact that you start ganking early game???

imo this guide needs a lot of work, you're all over the place, get an item build and then some optional items, check for typos, reread before submitting

would rate at 6/10 right now

boooooo to the no Mkb

MKB gives you increased atkspeed which is good for sven and it stops channeling!

but otherwise nice guide imo

@coco does vlads aura stack with Sven's or does it stack with CM's aura? I think it's only one of them, not sure which

Armlet doesn't really ruin your tanking capabilities because:
1) It gives you a lot of burst health (good for tanking)
2) Your build has bottle, which should help counter degen
Also, your build include MoM, which is haxorz with Armlet. Activate MoM, activate Armlet, God's Strength and your DPS goes sky high. Lifesteal from MoM should counter degen because of your huge DPS. Overall, nice guide

very bad. this can't be a real strategy

sorry to be that dumb but what it is Dps???

To be honest I haven't tried this tactic, I'll tried it tomorrow. I like the idea of putting stats early on for storm bolts but I really consider, if not battlefury, at least the great cleave essential for Sven. I believe you can't be herokilling the whole time because of your low mana pool, and have to farm sometimes. And there becomes cleave really useful.
Anyway, because I don't know yet if this strat can work, I don't rate it till tomorrow .
@ above: dps is damage per second.

okay, I agree with what they said b4. I prefe S&Y + Vlads, and I think battlefury should be gotten after ur core item as a late luxury item for mass hero killing after u get strong, arcane ring isn't a bad item for him, I sometimes get it for him... and for the skill build I really disagree and the great cleave to be last is total killing of his potential, this is very good skill and delyaing it to 22-to-25 isn't wise... SnY, Vlads, Heart, Tread, Battlefuty, Cuirrass is my build. all in all 5/10

I voted for this strategy. I find it is good and compact. And as fwii said, not all guides can be that good. If such high expectations are set then we would surely have VERY FEW strategies coming through..

I would rather get treads because he attacks slow early game, but you have a good point in that he is a slow hero. Yet this can be countered with SnY and Vlads(for move speed stats and lifesteal.)
Constructive Criticism.

I suggest Splash earlier for farming purposes

Same as Amp lol

a few edits and this guide will be fine

Once again, I agree with my fellow staffers, this is a good guide that tells you what you need to know about Sven.

However I do think that Mask of Madness undermines your role of being a massive tank - you only get MoM if you're going full DPS, and your main build has no damage items (yes, Strength is damage, not enough though). For this build and role, I would say Satanic.

MY Sven build offers almost no team support and involves Treads, MoM and as many Furies as I can afford...

satanic and armlet should definetly be 2 core items imo...dps armor and lots of life

really not sure what the goal is for a final build here

MoM after the stats/bolt/bracers (i go with treads for the dps and lil life) is ussually a good method of getting lots of gold from early tower killing which can obviously lead to getting better items earlier

i still think PT is more useful then BoY cuz you can kill attack heroes/creeps quicker

overall 7/10 seems unfinsihed but good

meant to say BoT

the skills are already corrected so you don't need to say "Correction:" on GC and TA.


it's "kyanon", buriza do-kyanon.

why get basher if you don't suggest MKB?

try to organize your strat. such as: you have this "hero statistics" on mid section but shouldn't you put this on early section while introducing this hero. you also has "hero comparison" here but put it on conclusion. and the screenshots can be helpful but put them on the strategy, not to the very end.

update!

@ folechno

you're really unto checking errors. anyway, proofreading is really necessary before submitting guides.
ganking doesn't always means that you're the one to kill. what sfsy1 must be thinking is that gank or "help" gank (using sbolt) early.

this guide deserves 8/10

i missed a part

There are many ways to play 7 u can be a tank, dpser, farmer and support. Battlefury is for me only good if u and magnus and/or enigma and or ishkafel w/ brad/slardar. In terms in pub game it is really gud because u spend the whole time farming but in higher level of game hot/aom/bkb should be rushed. Correct me if i am wrong but ithink once u use bkb then mom the -20% def will be negated because of bkb if so then its gud. Sfsy1 irespect ur build because that is ur build and it works 4 u

@All comments about BF.

I did say its situational and up to u did i?

@All comments regarding MOM

HotD is possilbe.

Also, many people say MOM spoils the tank part. However, you can choose to activate it only when you're offensing. Not necessarily always at the start of the battle.

Also, it gives 15% ms, which can be used to keep up with enemy for another stormbolt.

Nice Guide.
btw, can some1 make a wonderful guide for darkterror? I want to play with him!

argh

why does this keep happening.

well written guide, but the strategy isnt actually that good, and is situational.

perhaps expand for something that covers more possiblities. not the best guide but a farshot better than the other 2. 7/10

This guide is a situational guide. It's not really an overall guide on how to really play sven. Anyway, your stat build is sort of, okay. Item build isnt all too dad either. I dont see why however you want to add cleave last if you're gonna get a BoT. I go for threads and cleave before aura.

@ rillian

yes, thats situational. Some situations, getting cleave is better. But getting cleave immediately after storm bolt is for noobs only.

@ all the rest.

My guide is only for 5v5 non-pub games. Since Storm Bolt is for initiating, and being melee, i doubt u can get many kills/streaks.

SnY + Vlad is a situational item actually. Thats if your team have serious problem chasing hereoes.

If u still think my guide is bad because i dont have BF... Go watch some replays.

@folechno

Regarding jakiro with Vlads, i said Jakiro with ROB. since they dont stack, it wont be that great.

Also, items like AC, Guinsoo etc... are optional and some extreme cases.

Also, i know the strategy part is really really simple. But IMO, its enuf for this easy to use hero.

Skills like map awareness, juking, farming
Cannot and Should not be found on this guide.

And Sven, being such a simple hero, requires experience. Guides like this is do almost nth except provide an item build.

I consider Armlet optional, because if you're going for lots of armor, and a little bit of HP. Armlet will be a big hit to ur HP since its unreducible.

Also, i did mentioned its the Best DPS item and an item to be considered, didnt i?

Last thing,
I know this guide is situational, but thats a very common case in a typical draft.

PS: I will do some editing if i m free, because this is only the first draft copied from MS word :/ Sorry bout the really bad formatting...

"My guide is only for 5v5 non-pub games."

I say minus one or two for that... especially that its true.

I dont get u shim????

u need battlefury coz the split damage it makes...it can separe ur huge damage nicely..also, help to full ur mana pool..anyway..nice guide

Quoted by KennyDIE
"Armlet doesn't really ruin your tanking capabilities because:
1) It gives you a lot of burst health (good for tanking)
2) Your build has bottle, which should help counter degen
Also, your build include MoM, which is haxorz with Armlet. Activate MoM, activate Armlet, God's Strength and your DPS goes sky high. Lifesteal from MoM should counter degen because of your huge DPS. Overall, nice guide "
doesn't work, bottle will cancel because of hp degen
=_=

Oh and btw
nice guide

8/10

i totally agree on the skill build, but for i kinda disagree on getting BoT instead of PT. and bf is optional for me. And i also think that manta style is a great item on RK. imagine 3 RK with so damage to go around. I also get hands of midas for additional attack speed. for damage and tank items HoT is a must and bkb. for life steal i always and will go MoM. in my experience, once i get MoM its time to ftw. great guide 8/10

pretty much everything covered in this strategy has been covered in the ealier sven strategies

does gods stength stack with the double damage power up.

@sfsy1 shim is taking off points since the audience for this guide is "non-pub games" which doesn't really apply to the majority of users here on DS, also you should add that somewhere in the beginning so people will keep that in mind while reading

@quale bad grammer and errors etc. annoy me some, also it shows that I actually read the entire guide so I've considered the other side before giving my opinion (rather than looking at the item build and then flaming)

@^ no, dd & GS don't stack

Thank you Folechno,

many people did not even read the guide before posting comments like: Wheres BF?

Oh Heavens no! Never get a Vanguard on Sven.

And why is BKB O-P-T-I-O-N-A-L ?

Please change BKB into Optional.

AoM and BKB are Sven CORES

Especially BKB.

BKB->MoM->GS = Pwn

BKB->MoM->AoM->GS->Buriz = PWNPWN

i followed this guide and i got a godlike streaks. damn i hate diffusal blade XD

LoL what a skill build :-O i really say its better to put on storm bolt and Toughness aura it is very helpfull with that armor

the one thing i don't agree on is getting cleaver 22-25 rather than 17-20 or so.
but really thats noting and comes to preference.

pub v non-pub
pubs you mass damage and cleave then lol.
non-pub take the tank-pusher role with your items.

Well, that's right that SVEN is a tank, but why getting MoM? When activated it will make the bearer take 20% more damage. It's not small.

And I prefer Satanic instead of Tarras (actually I really like lifesteal, although yes, he's tank) and Armlet (cheap item, regeneration with high lifesteal & critical, of course buy Buriza).

Still a nice guide 7/10

@Drifterz
i said BKB is optional and situational because sometimes, when theres really no disable at all, you really dont need it. This is rare but it does happens.

@^Above

Like i said, MOM's activation is controllable. You activate it only when you are playing really offensive and not really at the start of a clash.

you should have great cleave when your storm bolt gets lvl4 and i like battle fury on him

s&y for str and ms and as....

no need for mana..

dont spam storm bolt...

when ganking..

you should be the tank/dps..

not the initiator..

stormbolt only when chasing..

^ are u trying to teach us sth?

Why not getting Battlefury to get more cleaving attack, so you can farm money much easier.
just an tip maybe not good but i think its good

Good one!!!!

Nice guide ......

Undergrowth hahaha
you mean Overgrowth

uhm, why last great cleave??? why no Battle Fury which will stack with cleave???

good guide after all 9/10:)

not a good strategy

^ i will appreciate if u explain

Well, i love gameplay, but i have a few problems with some of the things you said..

How you undermine Armlet but suggest MoM, You also said Vangaurd... Which would be hopless at a higher level, i think considering Valds is good, Id might rather take that over MoM, I dunno about Great Cleave being so late..

AND BF is a pretty good item, glad you considered it, BUT i agree, you dont really need it, and doesnt perform the role of tanking. LOVE how you but in B Fly, some idiots dont get why..

you should get it,
Anywho,
i Agree with Shim,
This guide is good, :) You just need to clarify a few things imo..

and Yeah, about the Aura and Ciurass has already been said

I think i will put Armlet as one of the cores. Thx for your useful comment.

Also, regarding vanguard, many people are against it, but the use of it is to tank tower and creeps. tower tanking is obviously needed during a chase or push.

Creep tanking is actually a good way to push. your creeps will not have to lose any HP so they can tank tower shots longer.

Will edit this strategy soon, so watch out for updates!

Battle fury would be good on sven with cleaving attack.

As good as I find this guide for a "tank" sven, I personally never play him that way.

I play him as a cheap to build DPS/Pusher that late game will crush an entire team in seconds, especially if theres a Mag/Rofltree on your team.

Int treads (turned to Str later)
MoM
Vlads
Armlet
BKB

With those items alone, at level 17ish you have well over +350 damage with GS on, grab a buriza after that, and with everyone popped at once, you crit for very large numbers, very fast, and cleaving it to boot.GG

I myself prefer a mix of DPS and tanking items.

STR Treads(change to BoT later)
Satanic
Cuirass
BKB
Buriza
MKB

Good guide but I see some improvement such as typo corrections and better screenshot locations.

because of the great cleave... hehehe..

alright guide
im not a sven user so i dont know much

but still id get cleave before stats

nice guide 8/10

nice guide n all, but you have MUCH to learn about dota

@Black Chaos,

dont think u read my strat carefully.

@By CockapooizAmutt
What do you mean?

buckler + ac + armor aura is a cool idea
that would really add some armor to ur team/creep wave
good guide

1)Νο ΒοT --> Treads are better
2)Cleave is situational?Don't think so- excellent farming,and thus simply excellent,skill.

4/10

hmmm..i think its not bad...9/10

Cleave owns for pushing, should not add it at late game and it helps a lot in dishing out damage in a team fight.

I lol at the screenshot at the end. Why can't you just have bought a bottle?

@Above

I cant foresee the future, but i expected a much harder lane...

Yay the retard spamming "Aghanims on Sven" but in caps and with more detail... times fifteen posts... has been banned.
You didn't see anything.

well done?o_O O_O O_o

VEry NICe

AS much detailed as your guide is, ill give you 3 out of 5 becouse of stupid things you put in there.

MASK OF MADNESS : I used to do that iten , and its good if u wanna be a hero killer, but if you wanna play as a TANK like you said MOM SUCKS. 20% dmg taken is a LOT in team battles. You should go for satanic instead.

Great cleave: NOT SITUACIONAL. In fact you should get it before you get thoughness aura ( still get stats first). Since its good for farming ( last hit gets boring later on

Other than that good job on showing on explaining the animation canceling.

1 thing...

Creepblocking should NEVER be done on sentinel bottom and scourge top.

Vanguard... THAT'S what I forgot to add in his build today XD I owned late game but got destroyed early game =[

Switch the order of when u get great cleave and toughness aura. It's just the way I play. Mid game is when you need to farm, and great cleave will really come in handy.

@Greater bash

Think of it logically. Since many people jsut like you think Creep blocking is necessary on Scourge Btm or Sentinel top for some reason which benefits them, you should block at Sentinel Btm or Scoruge to counter that.
Also, i am trying to kill at lvl 1, so obviously, i need the creeps to meet close to me.

@Julian.

MoM isnt stupid. The 20% is only when you activate it and you can choose when too.

Also, Cleave is situational as any decent hero can farm equally well without it.

I usually get him Buriza as the core item since it works perfecty with your ulti.

Buriza works for him true but it is costly and it dose not gives hp or armor compared to hot or satanic that gives hp and/or armor and damage due to its +str that can further amplify by gs eg. 35 str from hot use gs 87.5 damage is given in a gs lvl 3 with just hot. sure there is critical in buriza but what if you are hexed and stun and then ur dead. hot will give you dps and tank abilities. Bkb on 7 is essential to fully use the Gs in 9 secs w/out disable. It also gives str and dmg which 7 needs

Fail on this one. Great Cleave is required on Sven and so is Toughness Aura, otherwise he won't be able to farm or tank well enough. Treads are also a must for the attack speed since it is a great synergy with God's Strength and Cleave. Battle Fury is also great since the cleave stacks and the damage bonus is nice. The mana regeneration is also a must.

I agree that MoM is a good hero killer item, but not for tanks. Yes the 20% extra damage taken is an optional thing to cast, but if you're not going to use its then whats the point? Just buy HotD and get Satanic. Also I've heard that Armlet is a very good item on Sven so you might wanna think about that as well for the tank build.

not quite good???
it's just a simple guide!

lol! is this a new skill build? No aura and cleave? o c'mon, anyway.. MoM w/ aura is 'a more push'. O yeh, no BFury in your item build, 'coz you dont have cleave, right? Well, anyway, its not my build but its yours. To tell you, i wont try this one. Impress me on putting more videos. ;)

can u give me a build designed to kill centaur cause the builds don't have much effect on him

Owh, its you sfsy1.. Maybe we can arrange a game tomorrow, using your sven, lets juz try. , ;)

nice, i'll use this hero later.haha

100/10

nice job.. but for me, sven is not a late gamer, he's a mid game hero and he can own.. but once troll, void, slardar, phantom assasin acquires butterfly and lifesteal, its all over.. :) i rather prefer SNY, travel, butterfly, buriza, vlads.. just my opinion.. people always underestimates evasion.. wahahaha. ive seen sven (full items) get pawned by mortread who has only butterfly and lifesteal..

considering the guide is for "only for 5v5 non-pub games" I'd recommend BkB in core as in clan wars etc. diffusal is always going to be bought.

Secondly Cleave should be maxed earlier, levels 17-20, because it helps you farm, why get a skill the equivalent of a necklace when you could get a skill that lets you farm twice as effectively.

Also Sand King hardly used in competetive play anymore due to the 500000 nerfs they gave him, leshrac SK is sometimes seen but nowhere near as often.

8/10

@Above

I did say Cleave is situational and up to you.

Also, I consider BKB situational, if the games which U play in always have Diffusal whens there RK, you buy BKB whenever then is.

while i agree with your item build i disagree with your item order. i dont think sven needs BoT. with god's strength he needs to pull out damage...FAST so i recommend treads + MoM frenzy. but immediately after that, he needs a bkb because he WILL be targeted in battles not heart. sure it will make him a bigger tank but there's no point if he's not going to do any damage constantly being stunned/slowed. get the bkb sooner and sven will be able to kill anyone. nice guide though.

i say battlefury is a necessary item as it stacks with the cleave,provides dmg and regen for more stunning and harrassing the opponents

stop posting more spams LMH. you already posted 2.

a lil bit different strat,but i like it.

First of all I'd like to congratulate you on a nice guide but here are some of my comments.

Sven is one of those heroes who doesn't really need any item to own the items you are recommending are nice to have but requires much farming to obtain.

Here are the few items that I disagree on:

1) Travel - yes it does give you all the mobility in the world but but it's very expensive, you won't be able to get this unless you invest some time on farming which you can't afford since you'll need to gank

Instead I recommend PT and TP scrolls. PT gives you the much needed attack-speed which might make the difference in finishing off your target. This set will give you almost as much mobility but it comes in small parts which is important for gankers who don't spend much time farming.

2) Heart - As well as being the ultimate tanking item it's the ultimate luxury item. Get a Vanguard instead, it allows you to tank earlier and it comes in small parts.

Now for your skill build

I don't believe cleave is optional for a hero like Sven. Sven is always wanted for ganks so to make the most of the little farming time that he has, cleave will help you clear creep waves and neutrals much faster so your allies don't have to wait.

Finally, I have to say that Armlet does not make you any less of a tank. Upon activation it gives you over 400 hp and it takes around 10 seconds for it to do more harm than good. (Which is the length of most fights) MoM will recover the lost hp.

@fwii~

thx for the feedback...

and regarding the part about cleave, i used to think that way too, until i watched some ADC replays (no Sven learn any cleave before lvl 16 and many not a single 1 throughout the game) and my friends gave me some really good reasons. i m convinced that it is optional.

and those reasons are...

Firstly, RK being melee rarely get to hit a group of enemies in a battle, (unlike DK, who also has AOE slow)

Secondly, pushing isnt wont change that much. the most important thing is to win clashes, thus giving lots of time to push.

About farming, if you really want to farm, a solo lane is better than the jungle obviously, so you would want to stay as long as possible and let creeps meet near ur base. Stats helps in last hitting, while Cleave MAY make u miss 1 or 2 creep kills and dont + dmg..

Didn't really learn anything new from this guide. Nothing I haven't seen b4, other than the moving b4 storm bolt animation ends thing.

I'd never leave cleave to the end. I'd get at least level 1 cleave early for pushing + for attacking groups.

Great guide overall.
I agree that cleave is situational skill.
Cleave only does a percentage of dmg over an area and NO one should ever be auto attacking so its not very great for farming.The stats make up for lack of int to be able to use more stormbolts which may result in a successful gank

good guide

who said the aura of vladimirs doesnt stacks? i tried it once and it stacks.
but this is my prefer items for sven:
power treads(str)
battlefury(more cleavage, more damage dealt)
assault cuirass
HoT
s&y(for maim)
buriza(for with the godstrength and cleave)

SSS = Solid Sven Strat. Don't worry about all the haters, everyone's got their own style. This guide works great, although I must agree with fwii that BF is great on Sven in almost any situation.

Hey sfsy1 have you ever tried playing Sven with MoM, BKB, and Armlet with Ptread Str? I know your trying to make Sven into a tank; however, Sven is one of the best heroes. I think Sven is a much better DPS hero/off tank than aprimary tank because he doesn't naturally have a skill that aids at tanking besides toughness Aura which isnt that great. Just look at his: Ulti 150% damage. Clearly Sven is made for DPS.

Also I think cleave is should be maxed at lvl 20 if you decide to play DPS Sven.

awwww....
vanguard is for noobs..
vanguard sucks..


yes its a great item..with the regen..blocked dammage and additional hp..



but it still suck..hahaha..especially when used for strength type heroes..



and..first blooding at level 1?
cmon!u could kill at lvl 1 if ur against a noob!

it would be an insult in my part to use vanguard on sven..



hahaha..a very cheap sven..thats what u call sven with vanguard..hahahaha

Alright, Vanguard is for noobs, especially on str heroes. and that applies to CW and Axe too right?

Also, pls note that its an optional creep tanking item.

Vladimir's Offering's Devotion Aura STACKS with Svens toughness aura.If you pair it up with satanic u get 41% lifesteal.And thats a lot.

ok good strat and screenies!

keep it up

don't like the skill build 8/10

But bf gives you a decent HP and Mana regen... plus it stacks with his cleave and spreads GS like wildfire, it should get you all the items you need for this build so why not get it?

Should really add Armlet, wich is fucking sick one this guy

Uh.. ok i just wana make one thing clear Mr. Vakama down there below or near below my comment B fury is a situational item . In a average EM/non EM game u are most likely not going to get cleave besides Buriza makes up for it anyway i took on a whole team with MOM and Burizia . Bfury not needed what so ever . But the only issue i have with this guide is the BOt i dont think thats highly nessecessary for the fact u get mom anyway aswell as a good stun. Morover Treads a a good 10 stat bonus so yea

BoT is just my personal choice. PT is okay too.

ooww right!!!
i can play rogue knight now!!!
thx a lot..

nice

i still dont understand can bf b stack wif te cleaving skill?