One Hero to Butcher Them All

IMO, butcher don't deserve anything but strenght, hp regen and a BoT

btw, download the last version at www.getdota.com

Why is this a two star....its a very good guide...rate after more comments tho.

AWSOME GUIDE I WAS WICKED SICK AT LV 11 GODLIKE AT 14.

nothing new, same old pudge, nevertheless, a great guide.
your guide is plain and somewhat boring. blocks of text hurt my eyes. you may want to add screenies to spice up your guide. screenies are required if you want 5-stars.

Ok, this Guide is from 2007-05-16 and aktually you want to BUY the aegis and get DIVINE with Pudge? Please update this.

I agree with eyefury somewhat.

Pudge doesn't really take any strategy...

Do this:

Load him up with hp, be good with the hook+rot+dismember combo, kill a lot of units w/ level 4 Flesh Heap.

GG.

what version are you playing dude? your're still using that aegis + divine combo

need to have Defiance so the rot will be weaker on pudge and great regeneration

@Capwn33

He does need strategy as you see you cant teacg somebody how to hook with pudge just by writing the writer of the guide shows promise.


Btw he should have explained Trick hooking

Hooks from trees circle and moves in different directions The often confuses the enemies.

Btw Standard pudge build good


Bot Vanguard Tarasque Radiance nice job in the bottle


Playing pudge is fun but it takes instinct to hook great i for one can evade pudges hook i can see it a mile a way well not really but if you play against pudge you should move alot especially when your running away from him.


The best thing i did with pudge is i hook davion through our fountain =))

@ Capwn33
Lol pudge isnt easy to use so stop telling that Pudge doesn't really take any strategy... How can U hook well if u dont no the technique or simply the strategy.

The item build of the maker of this is the same as my build but i dont get Devine i think u dont nid devine coz ur ASP is slow so ur not rapid in attacking
I get this items
1.Boots of Travel
2.Blade Mail;if wid meelee foes/Satanic
3.Radiance
4.Vanguard
5.Tharasque
6.Hood of Defiance
For me only this is the better item build

There is no damn technique 2 meat hook
u just need godlike aim n judgment

Oh
n
Try a skadi n HoD







hooking n elunes arrowing r kinda d same arent they

This hero needs HoD to weaken his Rot to himself.

Buy BKB for him to not get hurt to himself while his Rot is activated.

I made a pudge strategy.... and it teaches you how to hook but i dont think theyll approve it now =(

Btw nice guide, id rather get arcane ring than bottle because you'll need to go back to base after 3 uses. You cant buy aegis anymore in the newest version. You should update this guide

For PenguPenguin's attn:

In a non -np game, bottle is definitely better than arcane and pays for itself many times. This is the problem when -np mode is so common that ppl forget they can fill up their bottle by storing runes. And you get to fill it like, every 2 minutes? A much better deal than arcane, friend.

has any one tried a buriza on pudge


A good ally to pudge is omniknight
He can repel you so you dont take damage from rot

Pudge, i love this hero,
comment:
Pudge does not really need devine
he is more of a tank nuker hero, he's not an attacker?!? aegis devine combination? attacking will not be used in your combo. Hook>Rot>Dismember. When are you suppose to attack. For clearing out creeps. You have your rot to do this. You can replace your aegis devine with 2 hearts. And radiance. As of my experience of pudge, you wont have time to buy this. You'll find yourself needing more of defense than offense, becuase pudge is skill dependent. And most of your opponents gets stronger. It just looks cooler with rot on. . Wats good of your guide is the empty bottle. i also buy this for pudge, i dont have time to regen the hp loss from rot after killing someone. our skill build is also very similar, but not the same.

Plain...does not describe much.Not attractive enough... and most of all UPDATE YOUR VERSION!! work harder!!

A great guide,btw why dont u try hook+rot+dismember?Its much better than hook+dismember+rot,since while being dismembered the enemy is also damaged by rot.This is old school pudge,but great guide anyway.Btw at one game is was fooling around with my enemies using pudge,my items are 5 Tarrasques and 1 BoT i didnt deactivate my rot

-.-"

ALL U NEED IS A BOTTLE FOR EARLY GAME, BOT AND THE REST HOTs!!

there is no need for rapier.

or aegis.

your just wasting it.

wow! nice job! let's play sometym.. ^^ pudge is my fav.. ^^

Just buy him BKB, 2 HOTs, Radiance, BOT & Blink Dagger of Escape and you'll be unstoppable.

Sorry, Dagger of Escape is useless for Pudge 'cause Pudge can't use it. Just change Dagger to Satanic/Blade Mail.

It must be unfair if Pudge can use the blinking effect of Kelen's.

nice strategies. but the item build spoiled it. divine-aegis on pudge? no.
7/10

gd strat^^though i think divine rapier is not a gd item for pudge, as he dies guite easily--becoz his skills make him look 'suciding', thus he always become the 1st aim of his enemies, and he is very likely need to die 3 or 4 times in a game (theres no exception for a pro player--though he can kill himself, but the rapier will still be dropped, one charge of ageis can do little).
Also, it is annoying to face pudge as an enemy, as rage n bkb cant get out of dismember==
can some1 tell me how to prevent from being pwded by a professional pudge? lol

I agree with Envoker, thats my item build too. Just a little costy.

I disagree with your words ''I say nay, he is the BEST hero in the game vs. ANY character 1v1''...

I defeated him with King Leoric quite easily in 1on1 game.. He was a pro and he knows how to play Pudge.. hook, rot, dismember combos were nice. But I just look over my mana pool, some speed boosting items for Leoric's crits and Pudge lay dead...

niot bad

nice guide, but i think o divine rapier for pudge anyway..

Well i guess 1 way of avoiding pudge is to get lothars or kelen(dagger) i guess. Since using pudge, in battle bet. I noticed that there is always a 0.5s lag/delay/slient after a successful hook, meaning that even though opp pudge is already hitting the "D" key he wont ulti immediately. So u can take this small window of life and death opportunity to either:1. stun pudge if u'r a stunner. 2. blink away if u'r blinker 3. ww away if u'r a ww-er. Or if ur teamates (silencer, drow ranger, death prophet, doom bringer) are around that can silent pudge. But this is kinda rare for public game, and pudge combo is rarely countered, hmmm, prob cuz of slow reaction and other ganks reasons.
Well, if i'm facing pudge, i would ensure that i at least can blink, ww or silent or if not tahan his rot and kill him...hahahs, highly unlikey for last option anyways...

your strat lacks PICTURES, please post some screenshots on good places to hook. typing them here is not a very good explanation.

buy circlets as a starting item u don't need the str early game u won't be focused...nice guide

all of it are nice but why buy an emptybottle?? never seen a player buying that even its good...

@geofkools07
Empty bottle because it can restore HP and MANA fast. Think about, Pudge normally kills by expending all of his skills (whic h takes up a lot of mana) in a span of about 10 seconds. He will need fast MANA restoration to keep him goin. Also Rot will damage Pudge so Bottle for HP restoration.

60% of the time...it works everytime
good work fellow anchorman fan

y u so noob?? y don lv2 up Flesh Heap for one skill??? can get more basic str.. when late game got 5k hp.. And u item really noob also..

so hard 2 build that items...

Hey does pudge getting Hood of Defiance and adding the skill flesh heap work the same way like magina adding spell shield b4 getting hood of defiance. pls help... oh yeah, viper oso

I preffer to use flesh heap more than meathook
It maximizes the str u got since the start of the game and it gives 16% magic reduction
while u are farming since the start of the game u gain str
IMO you cant spam meathook in early or Mid game
But then
having meathook in early game is also good
good 4 fishing and ganks
too bad im not a fisher type hehehhe

Yah it always adds up to ur magic imunnity
EG. 16% +30% from defiance
or 40% +30% from defiance(magina)
CMIIW im not sure about maginas spellshield
it always stacks
I havent tried using 2 defiance and i dont know if it works
tell me if 2 hood of defiance stacks together

hmm, you seem to have forgotten something. with the new version, my first items are RoR, tango, clarity. tango/clarity help u stay in your lane, and RoR for HoD. hood of defiance is one of the first items i get because of its very useful 10 hp/sec regen + the 30% magic resistance. combined with flesh heap, you only 54 dps from rot, while your opponents take 100 dps.

other then that, i thought it was a very good guide

i agreed with just about everything except ur missing a key part, HOOKING GUIDE!
if u had that then it would be better
anyways nice guide gj :)

Erm... ok about the hood of defiance.
Magina: if u get hood of defiance b4 learning spell shield. The percentage would stack e.g. 40% + 30% = 70& magic dmg reduction. However, if u learn spell shield b4 getting hood of defiance, the spell shield magic dmg reduction would be overwrited-> 40% magic dmg reduction oni.
So does it work the same way as for pudge? Do i need to get hood of defiance before learning flesh heap to not to forfeit the 16% magic dmg reduction.

I like to add battle fury for cleaving since w/ rot, killing creeps is faster and I get to have additional str

@Dashy_gazzz
This is correct. H.o.D B4 Flesh Heap.

And the spell percent diminishes. Its not a perfect 70%

dude,that really sucks,why do you take too much ROT;to commit suicide?
And, why there is no Battle Fury?With battle fury and full upgrade of flesh heap + natural creeps(meepos are the best);you can get 2700HP within minutes due to strength-increasing.And money from farming can buy a HEART!

it has been great to know a melee can take first blood in his 3-4lvl

Hmm.. should go defiance first then BoT and mass HoT and u will own during late with at least 5000hp-7000hp
Radiance is nice 140 damage with rot ^^
Rapier?

Ok dude, You get the point of pudge. Yes every item you get is very good with pudge. However, once you get the super tanks you have to deal with lategame, you will not get any kills by yourself. I recommend 2 maybe 3 hearts to boost dmg, and you can keep rot on.

Well everything you said works but you should definitely try the HoD out it makes you very resistant to your rot and so it makes you even more powerful to your opponents

The items where Good.. but in my Build in Pudge we Dont Forget the Arcane Ring.. More Reg. More GangBang it self.. It realyyyy PWND any Hero by HoOking it UP.. thx for the Other info like the Bottle...

ok,firstly get ur lastest dota....

secondly...i've a question...probably sum1 like steve-o cananswer it...

does hood of deviance stack with flesh heap??
how if i get more than 1 hood of deviance?are there stack with each other??

pretty good strategy........one of the most difficult heros to play with...certainly not for noobs...this article should be rated more.....keep up the good work

GOOD GUIDE!

good guide, disagree with item build. and i know there are alot of item builds, but honestly, first thing to get would be HoD. HoD is effective against rot and thus you dont have to worry too much about rot hurting yourself. Stack along a HoT and a radiance and you're money

this is the shittest guide even though im a por i got own with your item build, your strategy and your explanation of everything. the conclusion was hopless, put some more effort in next time

in higher level play mid is almost always soloed by ints, namely tinker/lich/leshrac. well pudge doesnt really get used in higher level play so i guess my argument is invalid.

just a noob guide just i can say ^^

l0lx....pretty gud
but the item build is not gud enuf
but gud work..hope u can make a better guide in the future

Pudge has a low mana pool... y not get an ARCANE ring? its very good for hooks... rots is a bit too painfu for u in early game... y not up it only to LV2!! n max ur flesh heap!! seriously rot is just bloody painful...

nice but please give some wicknesses of pudge... i hate this char...

Arcane ring is a must

most of the people make wind walk because the speed grows up !

r u a dog ? tis stradety is dam sucks pls la ... use yr brain? can ? thanks q update pls

y do u need devine? pugde dont need damge item all he need is HP cuz he would use rot alot in late game but i can excpet radiance becasue it add more damage while u rot so is add up to 160 per sec. the reason u dont need damage item because when u hook dismember and rot the enemy probaly tries to run away form ur rot so u would click in front of them while they are running away which u dont hit them if u tried to hit them there is possiblity they could escape cuz u have to stop then hit they could escape ur rot if they have stun skill, but if u keep hitting them u would get more delay time so everytime u hit it have to stop plus stun skill give them enough time to run away form ur rot or enough time for their whole team to gang bang u so i recommend u should buy more hearts 4-5 hearts BOT or radiance he cant really kill much at late game he should tank for the team at late game.

love it!!!

pudge... one of the most enjoyable hero in dota... i see your playing with powerups that's why you went for the empty bottle, but sadly we dont play with power ups here, its always with np, -arnp or -apnp.
i usually get rot first before meat hook, cuz pudge is one of those heroes that could get firstblood at level one. think about this pudge and yurnero at the same lane is firstblood level one, just go bottom for senti or top for scourge. some good options with pudge
to get a kill at level one are drow, viper, basically all slowers and stunners. but do this with caution, one mistake then it will be you thats gonna be first blooded. and remember dont attack just rot and follow him so that the creeps wont attack you back. just attack for last hit.
for my items i usually go 2 ring of regen as the starting items then go for hood of defiance but remember to finish your hood first before getting the flesh heap so that they will stack, the same thing you do with anti mage if you want to add hood on your slot. then after hood go BoT or HoT directly. then more HoT. radiance is an option but i wont recommend it, you dont need more immolation, rot itself is enough. just go for boost hp pool. nway good strat. 8/10

hu know about hOly_hexOr?....

Beware which hero you're gonna hook! Hooking yurnero is a suicide!!

nice guide man !! ... please add the screen shots soon

great guide dude.9/10

Pudge is probably and arguably the best hero the DOTA world has ever seen!

ALL HAIL THE BUTCHER!!

no bad, but too risky

pakshet!

lols ang tindi ng gamit ehhh
divine

fuck you all

nice strategy... but its a risk having divine.. wat if u die??

NO HOOD?!?! OMG update pls

pudge can't have devine rapier easily coz' you can't buy aegis in 6.49 just drop from roshan so devine is useless

panget ng strategy mo pare!! walang hood omg! masyado lng delikado

i get godlike at 10 level with other item building

Pudge the "FAT-FAT FAT-FAT FATTY-FATTY FAT-FAT" THE BUTCHER WHO MAKES THE "MMMMM... FRESSH MEAT!" FROM OTHER HEROES

basta pag may blink ang kalaban, wala ng kweta si pudge noh!"

baaah
start out with 2 Circlet of Nobility and 4 tongos
the get bottle, boots
--->BoT
--->HoT
--->Assault
this build always works for me

you've missed one vital item my friend... It is called hood of defiance which is perfect in the begining in order not to get your ass kicked. And Worry not... I have defeated pudge with Traxes so he is not by far the best hero in the game... I can give you at least another 3 examples of heroes to defeat pudge... The Lycantrope, The Faceless Void , and of course Jah'Rakal The troll Warlord

you've missed one vital item my friend... It is called hood of defiance which is perfect in the begining in order not to get your ass kicked. And Worry not... I have defeated pudge with Traxes so he is not by far the best hero in the game... I can give you at least another 3 examples of heroes to defeat pudge... The Lycantrope, The Faceless Void , and of course Jah'Rakal The troll Warlord

you've missed one vital item my friend... It is called hood of defiance which is perfect in the begining in order not to get your ass kicked. And Worry not... I have defeated pudge with Traxes so he is not by far the best hero in the game... I can give you at least another 3 examples of heroes to defeat pudge... The Lycantrope, The Faceless Void , and of course Jah'Rakal The troll Warlord

pudge can be better if the player is good

Pudge Is better with melee enemies......

Hey...I pudge is better with a Hood of Defiance...before you will be meat hooked

is hood of defiance no good?

faceless void or spec can defeat that pudge 1on1...u think its invincible???zzzzz...hell no..

pudge aint invincible.. Goblin Techies will own pudge any day...

did u know that mini pudge is better than normal pudge ?

Pudge is fat...





















































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great???????????like dah???

Hook at level one is a very BAD thing. If you go got as Sentinel with another hero with rot, you can get a very VERY easy first blood at level one.

This is in desperate need of sceenies
not enough depth on hooking, the biggest part of pudge

Thanx gee this halpd a bunch i was tryin to figure out how to use pudge when i stumbled across ur guide (not textbook)

first things first i have yet to see a guide for pudge that doesn't give him rot as his first skill. If you are facing bad pubs u can easliy first blood people with rot and meat hook level 1 range is so low its useless. just an idea. other than that seems ok.

battle fury.!!! its a must! its gives damage aand gr8 splash damage.!

LOL i thought it must have sounded dogey. But i guess i liked it.

9 outa 10

you 4got the BKB..

its difficult to make |Divine Riper

I prefer to use Dagon for Pudge......



So,if the enemy is escaping,you can simply Dagon it