eyefury's guide to crystal maiden

hmmm..quite ok..8/10

Hmm..., good guide.. the usual Rylai.. blink,avatar,bite,ulti, nova...

8/10

Well..It's OK...
8.5/10

why no mekanism?..rylai is just paper in the early game..even she had 2 bracers..what if in this 2v2 situation..you are the target of the 2 enemy heroes..your hp is still low by that time..what are you gonna do??..i think mekanism helps you a lot in hp..in the late game..mekanism is just nothing right?..then you should start selling your mekanism in the late game and buy HoT
My build for rylai:
1.boots of travel
2.aganisms
3.BkB
4.HoT
5.Guinso
6.necro3
I tried this items and i owned!!

nicy try but i prefer meca also and also prefer scadi instead of heart in rylai build

This guide is quite good (and also rather similar to masterjoe's guide). Face it, CM is a team hero, not solo. Her job is to gank, it's obvious her skills was made for ganking. All her items should be gank-oriented. Later, she needs more survivability, hence items like hearts/aghanims. Mekansm is only for heroes who don't use a lot of mana in whatever they do (eg silencer, chen) and lich (dark ritual). She needs so much mana to kill, you don't have 150mp to spare for an AoE heal when others have the mp to use it. Let others have the nice meka.

Sorry double post. I'd like to mention that she can buy wards but she's not the best ward buyer. As u said, she's last hits badly, she needs money to buy her items. If there are others who can afford this ward war, let them do it.

Well, this guides sweet. Very in depth despite 'currently this guide contain only the basics of playing rylai'. Different skill and item builds, but it makes sense. Not that I like Rylai... *cough* I said nothing. 9/10 from me.

!nice , nice , nice!

now that's one tough spellcaster. 8.75/10

Pro guide, the best Rylai guide here as of now.
You mentioned everything but I suggest you should put alot more emphasis on animation canceling since it's one of the most important thing to know when your playing Rylai. It pains me to see noobs who wait for the entire animation to finish wasting precious frostbite time.

Get Refresher. blink in, (activate avitar)freezing field, refresher, freezing field and then get the hell out of there.

Good guide though. Heart is a good idea but I took the refresher cuz my teamates covered me up pretty well.

thanks everyone for the comments.

i've explained in the guide why mek and skadi are bad items for rylai.

@lokiochaos
you're right. rylai is paper early game. that's why you should rush blink since it gives one the best escape mechanisms.
getting a mek will delay your blink.

@plausebunny
one freezing field will create enough chaos in team battles. and i dont think its really feasible since you need an AOE disable that will last long enough to keep your enemies in place for 6 seconds. double OG or double blackhole provides you that but with a long disable like that, your enemies will die even with just one freezing field.

really good strat on combos in rylai, item build is okay. 8/10

hey guys.. pls comment some more.. i need to know the things you didnt liked so i can improve the guide

Showing a successful freezing field would be nice though.

@daguldax
You suck, this is the best Rylai strat here so GTFO!

@fwii~
1. i dont have dota in my pc right now.
2. i dont use rylai often.

but i will certainly put pictures when i get some good sources. also, i' ll force myself to play rylai for the sake of this guide.

It's a great guide...well explained and simple...nice emphasis in the animation canceling a lot of players often miss that...also to sir daguldax...ummm could you tell us why this guide "sucks"? i'd give it a 9/10

You think dagon and/or bloodstone is ok? You can also use Linken if you dont like BKB...

dagon? only when im in KS mode. doesnt help rylai in any way.
bloodstione - havent tried this item yet. theoretically, it is not good for rylai since soulboosters should be upgraded to scpeter. and perseverance is not needed by rylai. anyway, i'll try this item next time i play dota

Actually a blood stone aint going to be too bad on Rylai, Rylai will die often in team battles and you wouldn't really need the Agnahims since it's improvements are barely noticeable. Perseverance, although not too great of an item can give you enough regen to prepare you for the next team fight.

Nice details on item selection, should keep monkeys off your back. Spending money on wards might delay Rylai, unless it was a good early/midgame. But if it's in budget, why not? Good job. Keep it up.

YOUR GUIDE SUCKS with a capital S!

Firstly You get an energy or point booster at the beginning so you can spam nova and bite and level up faster by nova-ing creeps.
Bite does NOT last 10 secs on creeps.
You get Freezing F as soon as possible.
Lothars edge is good for Rylai 'cos if it's countered by a gem of true sight just kill him and he'll drop it.This will result in him wasting money.
Get a Vyse or a HoT.
Scepter of Divinity might be good though.

Fine it doesn't suck. It's just that you made some MASSIVE COLLOSAL mistakes

@Chris

Yr comments make u look rather comical. Or perhaps u should restrain yourself from making such a colossal mistake of flaming then retracting it all while making double posts and potentially inviting a warning on yourself for flaming? Frostbite does last longer on creeps. It's 3 seconds on heroes. Try it yrself when frostbiting neutral creeps.

pesonally i thought at first your guides build was crap but it tursn out it works well. I also though at first that a refresher would work well on her but then i thought its channeling during the spell so refreshing would take time and mana and youd have to be fast on you fingers to ff refresh ff. and the enemy could run away by the first one so youd have to immobalize

preety cool guide, i guess..
made me thinking on playing with her next time!

But one thing im not so sure, what if 2 tough dudes jump on her? Like one stun/hitter, and a nuker for finishing... she'll die everytime wont she? And no ally could help, since it would take like 3 secs...
But that is rylai

@Chris
Please refrain yourself from flaming like that....

1. Frostbite lasts longer on creeps, try it out. it lasts only 3 seconds on heroes.
2. Nova for creeping? you have to be kdding right? unless you are very lucky it will only kill one creep because the nova damage sux (175)
3.Whats wrong with Blink Dagger? It costs cheaper 2200

@bigolet
if there are 2 or more tough dudes in the enemy team, buying wards is a must. so you will see them from afar and have enough time to escape.

STRATEGY RANK: MEGA KILL. Same old rylai skill build........but the layout of the strategy is quite ok.......I tried it before........I won.

LOL @ Cris

First things first you don't use skills to kill creeps you use them to harass heroes.

Freezing field at lvl 6 is stupid. When playing CM it's assumed that you should have a lane partner since she should never solo so a disable is much better than having Freezing field. Freezing field also cost 300 mana, which is quite alot, your better off with a Bite + Nova combo with your ally rather than using freezing field.

I like the guide same way i play rylai But can i ask a question

cuz im going to make a guide about the item build part how do put the pictures and recipes all i can see is items and next to it comments what do i need to do is it automatic

It does it automatically.

errrr.....no brilliance? r u fuking crazy?. I always take brilliance and go with a mana needy lane mate. OR you will never be able to spam skills.
5/10

^ lol Void stone > Brilliance since brilliance's regen is fixed, I'm too lazy to factor the math in that. Rylai doesn't spam skills anyway she combos so bigger mana pool > mana regen.

@ Chris = NO FLAMING PLEASE ONLY I AM ALLOWED TO! Hah, right.
Just picking up on some debates I missed: Lothars is only great on attack based heroes, mainly agility, if you ask me - its like the BoT or Treads issue: BoT for casters, Treads for heroes who attack (admittably BoT if you want it). Same here - Lothars is good on say, Drow, because you also get the 21 damage and 10 agility which adds 31 then factor in Trueshot. But Rylai? Crappy attack! Spend half the money and get a more direct skill!
And: Refresher Orb? You would HAVE to have Aghanims at least for that to work, and the guide says not to get that. But the thing is, FF + Refresher + FF is 1575 mana. How many Bites and Novas does THAT give you? This would have to be for a DREAM BUILD with absolutely huge funds and a long long time to farm/kill/push.
I have spoken, I go.

Another reason why no refresher is most people don't stick around for a second freezing field.

@puroy21
linken can block only 1 spell in evry minute..what if they have 2 stunners??tsk3..i'll still go for bkb

i think you need aghanim its a great boost for hp mana and for your ulti its all that you need but i like your guide at least its realistic in some guides they think they can have s&y by 6 lvl

guys thanks for the comments
@aalekh4u
first, you should NEVER EVER SPAM YOUR SKILLS. you only use it
@yuri
please read the ENTIRE guide. ive mentioned aghanims as a late game item if you want damage.

oops. accidentally deleted some part of post.

should have been like this:

guys thanks for the comments
@aalekh4u
first, you should NEVER EVER SPAM YOUR SKILLS. you only use it when you're attempting to get a kill
second, if you take brilliance aura, you will skip either nova or bite early game. with only one spell to use, rylai's ganking potential is almost reduced to ZERO
@yuri
please read the ENTIRE guide. ive mentioned aghanims as a late game item if you want damage.

the bad items section is too obvious

wheres the Freezing Field+Lothar's Edge combo? XD easy way to injure a team and walk away XD

@joseclo08
yes you're right about that. but believe me or not, ive seen noobs turn rylai into a battle mage.

@Tokemus
freezing field - lothar's edge combo? non-existent.
first, you run to your enemies and die before using the "combo"
second, if you managed to cast your FF, you dont and should not run away. after channeling FF, you should bite, cyclone, nova your enemies.

we have a same skill build.. but i dont want your item build., do you need to be tough early game? then buy vanguard or mekansm or defiance early game.. you dont need too much str bonus to have a tough rylai!! lack of mana item early and mid game because of items.. 6/10

awesome guide . Items build and skill build is perfect .

9/10 :)

some screenies would make this guide 10/10 ! (positioning freezing field or hidding spots to on bkb and blink in)

I'd say this hero is almost complete crap without items early game no mana to use useless compared to lich (to me)

Rylai is more team oriented and should not solo.

*headdesk*

Protip to those who want to flame: Please state reasons. It's kinda annoying to read the comments section just to see flames without basis.

Anyway, I'll ask for you opinion. Will you skip the bracers and just get an Ogre axe if you can?

jeremiahjunio
do you need to be tough early game? YES
but 2 bracers>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>vanguard or mek or defiance. why? 2 bracers costs a little over 1k. vit booster already costs 1.1k. mek and defiance cost 2k+
you need to rush blink dagger hence items that costs too much (more than 2k is already too much for rylai) are bad for rylai
a lvl 8 rylai with no items has a total of 559 mana. if you get two bracers, it becomes 637. with 637 mana, you can do a bite-nova combo twice if you factor in rylai's natural mana regen. i think that should be more than enough for ganks.
and if you want to gank so much, you can buy clarities early game, then buy a void stone before getting bkb. that should be enough for early to mid game ganks.

@birdy
rylai > lich for me
rylai
one disable, one slow/nuke and a really powerful AOE ulti
lich
one slow, one mana replenishing skill, and an almost useless ulti when facing more than 3 heroes and creeps.

@yuki
of course. actually, if you can farm 2k+ without dying, you should proceed on getting blink. bracers are there to provide a good boost to hp for a low price.

Ur freezing field got 4 lvl ????mistake?

lvl 4 if you have aghanims' scepter.

wow! nice ! tnx ! woohooo!!!

rylai + lina = owning!

the best game´s combo :D

can you post the link for master joe's guide on rylai pls. or mail it to me on darth_sanat@hotmail.com

is buying that empty bottle good for rylai???? which hero should buy that bottle???

is buying that empty bottle good for rylai???? which hero should buy that bottle???

The empty bottle is not suitable for rylai. A suitable hero would be pudge since he benefits from both hp + mp heal after hook/dismember/rot.

Professional strat! Right to the point, lots of explanations.

bottle is not really good for rylai since she wont need the hp heal. as for mana regen, clarities and a void stone will be enough

well.. why not null instead of bracer? null gives you more damage and mana because rylai is INT right? it's even more useful for me if Rylai doesn't have life because enemies will really run for you to kill you when your out of life, it's an early game so I think you wouldn't always be too far from the tower (I'm usually in the middle lane if my hero is rylai) and just when they think they can kill you just run near the tower then if you have mana you can frostbite that enemy then you can attack it while it's immobilized then if it's still alive frostnova it then you can run if in great danger - he's slowed and he cannot get close to you, the tower will continually give him damage then get the last of his breath, if you're in a good timing you can get the kill.. it's effective... I've always done it.. I've always annoyed my enemy in the lane if I'm using Rylai.. but it always depends on the plan and strategy of the user..

ya i like it but is simmilar with my blonde bitch rilay :P

Good guide! I think everyone else has posted enough on the positives so I'll go to the negatives:

•HoT??? Nah... Its too expensive and gives no mana regen... you already have HP from aghanims scepter and BKB... You would get it if you were getting ganked but in that case better items are Bloodstone or twin scepter(Both give more HP).

•Brilliance last? Nah... You yourself said spamming while sustaining mana is near impossible... This will help a lot... Even one charge of this stacked with RoB (Yes, It stacks in the new version) is enough to spam spells...

But apart from these 2 flaws, I'd say this guide is quite good! 7.5/10
(Do I rate 7 or 8? Eeenie meenie miney moe...)

@the lawyer

HoT - seems like you dont know that 1 str = 19hp. so HoT gives 965hp. with aegis gone, heart is now the best item in terms of survivability. about bloodstone: perseverance is a waste of money, soulbooster must be upgraded to scepter. 2nd scepter= BAD. better get a guinsoo and another euls

brilliance aura - yes i said that its impossible to spam your spells while sustaining your mana. however, the solution to this is not to spam your spells. you use your spells only when attemping to kill someone. also, like what i said in my previous post, if you cant manage your mana, get a voidstone before getting a bkb. that should be enough.
and even after the buff on aura, stats are still better because stats = more hp and mana, better survivability and mana pool.

Good guide, but I see many league players add a Ring of Basillus with the 2x bracers and Boots of Speed before getting the Dagger or Black King Bar. Best Crystal Maiden guide!

@loze
maybe because in their lineup, rylai is the best hero to carry the rob.

rlyai is the best

@yusr
possibly. in teambattles yes. in one-on-one no no no.

ussually die so often with rylai. hope better with ur guide

8/10 good job

ill give it an 7/10

hmmm.. 7.53/10

i will prefer lothar's to dager of escap :-

@BoT-DEHO
dagger is so much better than lothars
1. lothar costs too much
2. lothar gives agility and damage, things rylai doesnt need
3. lothar can be countered by gem, wards and necro3.
4. dagger makes chasing easier since you can blink through trees and above cliffs while lothar gives you only +ms something that is already provided by BoT.

@eyefury

Try to say things that aren't your opinions, but are facts. By saying:

"dagger is so much better than lothars
1. lothar costs too much
2. lothar gives agility and damage, things rylai doesnt need
3. lothar can be countered by gem, wards and necro3.
4. dagger makes chasing easier since you can blink through trees and above cliffs while lothar gives you only +ms something that is already provided by BoT."

Some of the things you said are true and are why dagger is better. But, if you blink you can only do it once and still might die.

On the other hand, the reason that Lothar's is stressed to heroes with ultimates that are channeling (Pugna, Witch Doctor, Rylai Crestfall, etc.) is a good reason.

Cast your ult, hit lothar's and then bam your whole ultimate goes without being stunned or killed while you are vulnerable.

Anyways, okay strategy : 6/10.

@Capwn33
Lothars is supposed to Replace BKB when using heroes with Chaneling spells against noobs, it can never replace Blink. Blink is for positioning, BKB is for an uninterruped Freezing Field. Where as buying lothars can either result in you dying because they bought a gem or you dying before you get getting close enough to cast Freezing field + lothars.

@Capwn33
sigh..i dont want to repeat this over and over again:

ulti then lothars is for noobs only since LOTHARS CAN BE COUNTERED BY GEM, WARDS AND NECRO 3.
bkb can only be countered bu ulti spells which have disables that goes through bkb. so lothars can never replace bkb, and like what i said in my previous post, it can never replace dagger.

also, as a reminder to those who have not yet rated my guide:

please read, analyze, examine my guide carefully before rating it. please do not rate my guide 6/10 just because i didnt include lothars(which is a very noob item) in my build or didnt put any points in brilliance aura(another bad suggestion).

thank you.

I prefer lothar edge than the dagger of ascape because you can cast freezing field
(with the BkB activated) and use lothar not to let your enemies hurt you a little while your ulti kills all near enemies.Good guide...and strarting items,but i prefer an arcane ring too...8.5/10

and if you are worried if enemies counter your lothars with a gem let your allies to
give the gem carrier a lesson...good guide again dude...

@Aimilios-21-
windwalking is not necessary when you have bkb. if your worried about the damage you'll receive while channeling your ulti, get a heart instead.

about arcane ring:
there's a big chance that one of your ally will get this item. arcane ring is really good, but i dont get one for rylai since it will delay your much needed items (dagger and bkb)

My build for her are the ff.:

1.)Boots of Travel
2.)Guinsoo's Scythe of Vyse
3.)Aghanim's Scepter
4.)Blink Dagger of Escape
5.)Eye of Skadi
6.)Heart of Tarrasque

please dont post your item/skill builds without proper justification. go write your own guides instead

yes bkb and blink dagger is needed for rylai, but rylai's ulti is used to kill multiple heroes, so use it wisely in a team gank. one note, dont get lothar's you didnt add that in, lothar's is for Shadow Fiend and his ulti.

@Icyferno
if you're talking to me, i believe i mentioned lothar's as a bad item for rylai. i dont need to discuss about lothar's and nevermore, since this is a rylai guide.

Rylai really suits you eyefury .
Good guide. I'll rate it 8/10 like others rate it. XD

-Leandro

its not bad

Rylai can also team up with magnataur so the enemies can swallow freezing field

yes that's also a good combo. but dont expect me to write all possible combos, that's an almost impossible task. i only gave you samples of skills that have synergy with rylai's skills. you should discover for yourelf the other combos.

Pls take note of cm's ulti. It's RANDOM explosion... lothars is like the in between substitution of bkb and dagger. What if u'r fighting a DPS hero and u bkb and ulti? he juz wack until u die lor... thats y blink, bkb den ulti = sucide in team ganking. Anyways, bkb is like unsellable, so it makes lothars more flexible and all.

U say that cm does not need the extra dmg from lothars, well, bkb provides like dmg oso. Though it provides hp, lothars provide armour. Furthermore, as i've said lothars is like the combi (of course not as gd as both) of bkb and lothars... saving cost and a space

@Dashy_gazzz

And then when the scourge team has sand king (which is often picked), all he needs is to burrowstrike where you disappeared and yr freezing field is gone. And for goodness sake, you think somebody is going to let you go into the middle of the battlefield and then freezing field and then disappear? Is that what you mean to do with lothars? If that's the case, then their DPS hero will take care of you even before your ulti channels. Blink is an element of surprise that lothars is nowhere near providing. FYI CM does not start battles, she blinks in shortly after battle in AVATAR. So does that mean the enemy DPS will target her immediately? They will be so surprised that they won't react immediately to kill CM.

i disagree with the preferred items...

rylai is my fave hero
~`mIa`~

rylai is my fave hero
~`mIa`~

since i'm a new player, i really learn a lot from ur strategy..thanks
but i'm wondering dat should CM get a SOBI-MASK in the early game for mana regen if i'm a solo player..?

i will give you 0/10 bcuz of your item build it is sooo stooopid you should hav dagon

I'm a CM lover...Thx for that lovely guide...1 question...She's the intelligence hero...Why no Null Talisman for her early game?I usually use them to boost my mana...Dagon's a good idea in case rylai used up all her skills & needed you know...the last push (to kill duh)...

wow! that's pretty cool huh? i can now use
rylai as my favorite heroin again! haha!
thnks!

altho u might not need brilliance early game, in mid game ur team mates will benefit from it as well as u will. maybe if u put brilliance u can spam more.

ok guys im back... sorry for not posting for a very long time.

to answer some questions:

about lothars:
some of you still insist on getting lothars. here is the list of my arguments.
1. as an escape mechanism:
someone said that lothars is more useful in escaping since blink will get you only 700 units away, while 10 seconds of invisibility and bonus movespeed will let you cover much more ground. my counter argument: the map has lots of ledges and tree patches. blinking through these ledges and patches will increase your distnce from your enemies much more than by following the terrain with the increased ms from lothars.
also, gem, wards and necro3 will easily counter invis, so they can hit you while youre running away. but with blink, you instntly disappear from their vision.

2. as a tool to maximize ulti's efficiency
some of you argues that bkb-blink-ulti is suicidal in team battles, especially when facing dps heroes. so as a solution, some proposed the idea of blink-bkb-lothars. this idea is really useless because your only wasting 3k+ gold in buying lothars. first, in may look effective since bkb will protect you from spells while invis will protect you from dps heroes. however, as what i've been saying over and over again, invis can be countered by gem, wards and necro3. second is that the 3k+ gold can be used to buy other items that will better increase your survivability. it can be used to buy a reaver to be upgraded to heart, the best item to increase survivability now that aegis is gone. or it can be used to buy a vanguard and more bracers if you want cheap parts. these items, i believe, are more reliable than the invis that can be easily countered.

about dagon:
sorry noobs, but proposing to get dagon means only one thing: you are a kser. please do not degrade rylai from a great ganker to a low life ksing hero.

about brilliance: i will never trade survivability for "more" spamming.

to the newbie who asked if you can get sobi mask for rylai: yes you can but +str items like gauntlets and circlets are more prefered since these items will greatly increase your survivability.

about null talisman:
the additional mana you get from buying a null instead of a bracer wont allow you to cast one more spell. but the additinal hp you get from getting a bracer instead of a null will greatly increase your survivability. also, let me tell you that getting nulls for int heroes is almost not worth it. i actually buy nulls only for str casters like tiny or tidehunter. why? because int heroes generally have more mana, but lacks hp, while str casters have the hp, but lacks mana.


that all for now. also, i still dont have a screenie for rylai because im trying other heroes(im writing moreguides) and it gets boring when you play her all the time.

If the hero is int, u should up its int, not str. As u guys no or may not, if u up 30 str to an int hero, it helps nothing.

If the hero is int, u should up its int, not str. As u guys no or may not, if u up 30 str to an int hero, it helps nothing.

either you're a noob retard or you've just played dota a minute ago.

in case you're new to the game, each point of str adds hp and hp regen, and adds damage if your primary stat is str. there are many reasons why you get str items on non-str heroes, but the main reason is survival as with higher hp, you wont die easily.

in case you're a noob, please dont pollute/degrade/destroy the site, the game, the world wide web, and mother earth. by being a noob and acting like a retard(in case you are not a retard) you are only making fun of yourself, while bringing doom to the people around you.

Its an ok strategy well i was gonna chose crystal maiden and then someone else did so i decided to chose lina instead cuz its someone similer, well anyways long story short i used ur strategy for crystal maidern on lina instead and i owned the other team was all pros too except for 1 noob and not only did we win but it was only late mid game so i think personally that it works better for lina rather then crystal maiden....

@homer2by4

Everything for CM works just as well for Lina except BKB and Aghanims.

Since you got Lina + CM as a pair you should abuse the GGness of the 2 girls and claim 1st blood. And slaughter them before they get too strong.

ty a lot for the information ... i was a noob untill i found this guide out for ryalai. ty

not bad... 8/10

how bout rylai's skill combo?? can anyone pls write it out?? one more question:can rylai hero killing by herself?? or she needs team battle to hero killing??

Rylai is very good support hero.
Linken is useful if there is no aoe stun on the opponent team.
i suggest more supportive teamplay.
Mekansm(armor hp regeneration) ,Arcane ring (nuke in early game and mana for freezing field),Guinsoo if needed, Necronomicon (hp , mana , gem for stealth heroes) Dagger of Escape (definately) , Boots of speed are good enough till very late game , you can get BoT later.
Scepter if needed.
way too supportive hero.

mekansm +armor uber. with arcane you can handle both meka and ulti and spam spells.
rylai-leshrac and rylai tiny are very good combos too (you can figure out why by yourself i guess)
cuirass might be used to support as well by using the armor bit on herself.

Rush dagger then farm for eul's. Then convert your boots to BoT. Next is BKB. Then farm for guinsoo now. Then Heart of tarasque. Last is skadi

nice. very nice. this is the same build i do with maiden now. rylai is awesome at early game but rylai with out ulti at mid and late game is paper, thats why a bkb and dagger are the items for her. and sometimes a lothars would do good as well, cast freezing field den windwalk but bkb for me is better, one gem or a sentry is gg. i rate this 9/10

Good comments on skills.

ok heres what you do'
1.nova
2.brilence
3.nova
4.brilence
5.bite
6.bite
7.nova

heres why i do that:
you need briace for harassin eraly game you cant really kill a hero is hes at full hp and your bite whack whack nova is not going to work so at lvv 3 u harass the hero keep doing it like 3 times. and when the hp of that hero is about half you w8 till ur lv 5 to go in for the kill. u bite wack nova and dead

Well at last some good strategy.
someone finally gets it that u simply can't plaz int hero with Scepter Guny travel boots and whole inv full of nuls talismans .

But i have to disagre with u in few points. In article where u are writing about bad items for Rylai.

MKB,and Lothar.
MKB u said Crzstal isnt dps hero, thats not quite the fast in late game ull have quite big problem if ull trz to play her still like caster. Due to mz item build is Desolator, and if u are rich enought MKD is no problem. Soo i think u can also plaz Crzstal in this way. And about Lothar ,you are right that dagger is cheaper(i hope ) but i think Lothar is better a)+damage as i said alrdy b) u dont have use Lothar only as ulti casting device . Also scouting runing ganking etc etc.....
But generaly very good strategy, and MOST important is that somebody plays int hero without caster build.

srz mz kezboard is kinda broken

1. i dont remember saying anything about killing a hero with bite-whack-nova-whack.
i think what i said is chaining your spells with an ally to score a kill.

getting brilliance only reduces your mid game ganking potential. by level 8, level 4 nova and level4 bite together with ally spells can kill almost any hero, but by getting brilliance, you cant do that.

also i will update the guide and add bottle into the build. bottle takes care of any possible mana problems.

2. rylai is not fit to be dps. its your fault if you did not finish the game early, because you will surely die in the hands of pumped dps heroes. also, i cant think of how will you be able to farm for such items. i had a game with a score of around 17-12 and i only have bracers, bkb, blink, bottle and travel.

What about dagon? isnt it good?

good strat lina is my favo hero

good strat rylai is my favo hero

yeah man!!!!thats the guide i like..perfect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yeah man!!!!thats the guide i like..perfect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yeah man!!!!thats the guide i like..perfect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

noooooooooooooooob guide

not bad.thanx 4 d info.

What is it about people that make them not get brillance aura level 1 or 2... harrassing is the best way to win...

this is guide for 6 to 10 yrs. dota players haahahahahhahaha!!!!!

thanks it is so cool now i noe to use it more effeciently

the first very good guide that i've seen here. 10

not good, not bad... 6/10.. too common build everyone uses. be more creative, this is a build most people already know, and MKB is good item to have, ulti is not something u can always depend on playing pros

You have covered exactly the way this hero should be played. No to lorthars u newbs, blink into fog, juxe ur enemy. Aura < Stats. Survivability is such an important factor in League games. If you think harassing is the way to win, you haven't played against any good players. 10/10. U should mention this guide can be backed up by players such as Col.ezy, who plays similar to this guide.

Ur too minded on killing... y don't u try to setup 2 null, then boots and sapphire water??? it's just a waste to have to bracer in early game... how about the mana??? rylai has a good long range attack and just needed careness to farm safely and greatly. what a guide that only tells how to farm in early game. and equiping the "FREEZING FIELD in LVL 10?? are u serious. know what the best partner of rylai is ENIGMA. i'll asure u lvl 6 then equip the ultimate and for enigma lvl 6 equip the black hole. once the black hole is channelled and trap as many hero as possible. Rylai can kill as many as she can with "FREEZING FIELD". and the "BRILLIANCE AURA". equip it a lvl 10 , lvl 12 and so on. bcoz it makes rylai have a massive mana regen. ur strategy is just a basic and not a fundamental.

eh, not bad not good. 5/10 (I go for soul booster first as it provides mana, health, and slight regen)

its alright i guess... 7/10.
most of your items are expensive.... like too much, can't get them intime without having to kill heaps of heros.

nice thanks

cool

Great strat!! 10/10 lol but i usually get atleast lvl 1 brilliance aura as it helps my teammates early game. by the time u get lvl 4 brilliance aura, u can just spam frost bite and piss off ur enemies

rylai is HAWT
ok srry

very useful!thanks

very very useful guide. thank you

No mana giving items in the early game!!!
Is this a spellcaster?

very powerful rylai

Good guide!

NIce fcuking comments dude!i totally nailed my friend!!!!

I tried an S and Y with Rylai in a game and it worked AMAZINGLY well. It gave me plenty of str and it increased her speed to around 386 with BoT. I agree with getting Blink Dagger or BKB but not both, too expensive. I usually get Freezing Field at lvl 6 because at lvl 7 I have lvl 4 Frostbite and those 3 seconds in the ice is long enough to get 1 or even 2 kills if they don't have a disable. But then again that's my own build since I'm usually a player who takes huge risks. 8/10

i think we can skip the blink dagger if we have tiny as our teammate

it would probably be better to get lothars instead of bkb and possibly even dagger

just lothars while channeling and you're safe

good....good
its make importanfor me

There is more to DotA than killing with mass mana regen, you need to survive long as possible in battle, therefore bracers and stats are got to increase survivability.

Mana regeneration isn't your priority, this hero is a support hero, so she needs to last long as possible.


Obviously the Aura gives your position away + the stats benefit you more. Dagger provides better coordination and more ways to escape and initiate.

mmmh yea its ok but i don't agree with all the str items

great guide, love it exactly the way i play rylai.. and to all you fucking noobs that say 'loathers > bkb + blink' or 'brilliance aura > stats' or even 'rylai doesnt need str items, shes an intel' i say learn how to fucking play dota you noobs. GOOD WORK! KEEP IT UP!

awesome same as my build.

GJ, Nice guide! 9/10

I like to buy her a Shiva Armor after the Sceptre. It helps with surviving just a bit longer in heat of battle and also it's great to unleash that Freezing blast as a way to get into the battle or to end it.

FUCK U,,,, FUCKING NOOB!!!

FUCK U,,,, FUCKING NOOB!!!

wow you're really sharp thinking, but why don't you replace the bracer with null tallisman it increase rylai int very much for starter items, (no offense)

except of kelen dagger of escape, why not use lothar's edge....(wind walk and extra speed for chasing or backstabbing an enemy)

I agrre with everything in your guide!!

nice strat..same build and item as i use rylai...

I like getting crystalis, its worth it fot the cheap price it is.

Okay.. let's say good guide for pubs, however, if you ih or scrimm, you will have to take bite/brillance aura at first.. you'll be more like a support hero at beginning with ur disable.. Rest seems to be ok

you dont know frost bitch,crystal maiden.

items:
1.power threads
2.shiva's guard
3.eye of skadi
4.aghanim's scepter
5.orchid malevolence
6.kelens dagger of escape
and now she is not mage she is killer

how did you say that Eye of skadi is a bad item for rylai?/..

Stupid!!..

some enemies can blink or hide so rylai's spell are not enough to immobilize or slow them..
plus...

you dont use frost nova in the early game...

just brillance aura and frost bite and rylai's ulti noob....


rylai has low hp so you really nid mekanism..


stupid

Hi! I havent played DotA that much but your guide has teached me a lot about playing Rylai. But whats your oppinion of Shivas Guard with Rylai? It gives a very good armor and i think that could be important when facing end game? what u guys think?

you are relying only on rylai's skills
her base damaga will be extremely low with this item build
if you come in front of a hero with silence then your will be seriously weak
and if the doom bringer comes in front of you,then please don't pick rylai
because doom means a 14 second silence
and you have not given her even one damage amplifying or even a attack speed increasing item
try this inventory out....this is the perfect for rylai againt silencers
1 - satanic(gives you soo much lifesteal after this inventory that doom is almost useless)
2 - Monkey king bar
3 - Monkey king bar
4 - black king bar(use this and then her ulti so that no one would be able to stun you while u are using your ulti)
5 - boots of travel
6 - Assault cuirass(armor plus attack speed combined with satanic would mean that you will be invincible)

also you have made a full spellcasting invent and strategy and made bracers at the start................no offence dude but her mana pool would be seriously low speaking that you are not also taking brilliance aura

go basilus and frost nova and aura. you will be able to spam nova easily.

Not bad man not bad, the only thing i'd add in is that if your farming well after two bracers go straight for a dagon, then using the money you get from hero kills get dagger, its unbelieveably important. started saving my life as soon as i bought it haha, nice work though dude, keep it up.

and BTW Death king, BKB is anti doom retard, try looking at the guide, maybe it has more than one use moron. You tried to diss him and you can't even see how useless your argument is. L2P noob.

add some points to BA might b helpful for casting more combo... great guide on great hero... add some screenshot for positioning ulti and so on make dis guide PERFECT 9/10

I´ve tried this guide a several times and my conclusion is that it only works real good on very injured Str Heroes. She will not be good against strong heroes at all if you use this guide. And if you can´t use Dagger - Don´t bother buying it.

If you meet Str heroes you should go for the sword before the axe and then the dagon to take damage.

very very good monster sumug

i prefer lothers than blink dagger.windwalk then freezing field nasty killing spree

i prefer lothers than blink dagger.windwalk then freezing field nasty killing spree

I would say everyone who said Lothars IS NOT PAYING ANY ATTENTION. But...
You've clearly updated this for 6.50b (recent Cyclone nerf you mention, etc etc) but there is nothing about the drastic and horrible change to Kelen's Dagger. The one that makes me refuse to call it 'of Escape'. Would you still get it? I realise you mainly use it to initiate the FF assault, but escaping is better than dying.

how about shiva's? gives armor, mana, and slows....

wow that made it so much better
i thought i was a noob when i kept dying after i blinked in.

i dont agree about that rylai should only spam skills....
if its 1 on 1, EoS is pretty useful because rylai's skills might not be enough to kill your enemy and is useful when the enemy plans on running away.....
the slow of nova will not be enough since it is not as long as the cooldown.....
also........
theres nothing wrong with being careful.....
i give it 7/10

That's a pretty good strat

hmmm...good

I'd disagree with putting brilliance aura in the end. Rhylai is great supporting hero. If u r in a lane with spammer or nuker u should get it much sooner.
Maiden and Techies r a great combo.

WOW NICE GUIDE for crystal MAiden,think i'm gonna have a good fight with my friends.THNXS

I prefer Shiva then HoT. Instead of slow, Shiva can give more armor to Rylai. Ohh, i then disagree about not to take Briliance Aura in early game. Without mana, Rylai like a piece of junk

bad strategy

i prefer to be a battle type for rylai cause i think she is a good tanker because of her ulti

this item build sucks. i agree with the items that improve your ultimate but with these items its never gonna work plus no brilliance aura? omg

10/10 nice job. I hate CM for once, I might give her a 2nd chance XD

scepter
shivas guard
Orchid Malevolence
Guinsoo Sycthe of vyse
power thread
assault or heart or refresher

is the shivas guard a good item for her?

can i use lothars while casting freezing field ?

TIP (FUN-TAC) Lothars Edge and Ultimate = Very Funny :D

i just used this combo in a match...OWNAGE!!!

you don't get it when i use my ultimate i will use lothars just like vol'jin deaTH WWARD then lothars

U know eyefury my item build 4 rylai is this:
-bot
-lotar's
-shivas guard
that's all.....hotalso hahaha

don't copy me!!!!! hahahaha you don't have any rights to copy my item

did your guide say anytihng bout weakness of her ulti? sleepy now.. missed some parts. when rylai using freze field if she get stun or something then wasted already~ dont like rylai cause of that. her casting speed for skills also rather slow..?

i think this guide is a little too expensive.

not possible to get all of it.

If i am you, i will say sceptor, blink dagger, boots, i my main item.

Then, i might buy HEX, That's all

A detailed yet comprehensive guide... thanks for making the effort to do this!

A detailed yet comprehensive guide... thanks for making the effort to do this!

great guide on rylai but i hav to disagree with the idea of no mekansm... 8/10

er book ownz on her or is tha book just imba?

brilliance aura is great, because with it you WILL be spamming your spells and also very useful for team members so they can spam their stuns (espesh str heroes)

what's animation canceling?

hmm, my friends think that the guide suck, BUT i beg to differ..i tried your guide to make sure but as i play through, your guide really helped...haha, like they said "judge it till u try it" haha, keep on making guides like it's in your blood! rock on!!!!! wahahaha!

have you tried stygian with rylai? :P i think its great in late game when most characters have builded themselves up to resist your magic caused by frostnova and frostbite, so you freeze 'em or slow them and then nuke them

Both informative and useful. Thanks.

What about the "ice queen" build
its Aghanims, Eye of Skadi and Shivas guard, it looks cool and is effective because your health/Mana/int get boosted and you get a very useful ministun which stops other channelling nukes (deathward, epicenter) which usually would get you down...other items can be then build in dependig on situation

Very cool hero...All ice

8/10 not bad

Well io havnt yet used this guide.i m going to play with Rylai for da first time but i m sure this giude will help me out.n yeah ur guide is well organised and explained...nice job dude

I can't bear this hero, I think she's weak.
But when I play her, this is like support so I take brilliance at the beginning.

thnx for that.. it helped me a lot

for me necronomicon will be great to start with, because if you have 3 seconds frost bite and 2 necro on your side it can deal a great damage. that's only my opinion.

I think a good ally for this would be lich or rooftrellen don't you think?